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[resolved] [confirmed] Incorrect mode/rank display with jumping ranks

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higurush
313 posts
Joined December 2010
Topic Starter
higurush
When I press F9, I see my friendlist. However, people just jumping and reordering in a wrong order and they always get and lose like + - 1 - 40 000 ranks... and they're just jumping everywhere... It's like that for 3 days now.. My internet and Bancho connection is perfect.. Also when I play in multiplayer a +8(last rank increase) always pops up and sometimes it shows my previous rank in the multi or in solo..

Cannot do anything about it..

Update:

higurush wrote:

Well, we could sum up the case into 4 issues:
  1. Jumping ranks on friendlist (mod change or not).
    http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/111726&p=2011516
  2. Filters can go crazy, they mess up the ordering (Location and so).
    http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/111726&p=2031548
  3. After a score submit which increased the rank, the rank keeps jumping everytime we play a new map. For example, you raised 10 ranks by a map, but you keep raising that 10 rank again and again after playing a new map without changing mods.
    http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/111726&p=2011742
  4. There are some cases where the osu! client switches ranks in certain mods, for example, it shows the osu!standard mod stats (acc, score, lvl), but shows the taiko rank.
    http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/111726&p=2019337
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TheVileOne
osu! Alumni
8,431 posts
Joined March 2010
TheVileOne
I'm not sure if this is related, but when I was in the editor, the +xxxx ranks was appearing at the top of the screen. It was always like +9000 and it did it several times.

Weird...
MillhioreF
Pro Tester
5,004 posts
Joined July 2011
MillhioreF
I'm pretty sure this happens because of the new bancho update. To save on data sending, stats are only updated when requested (looked at) and so if players switch game modes while not being looked at, it's seen as a sudden jump in stats. That's my theory, anyway.
JhowM
2,654 posts
Joined December 2010
JhowM
My rank keep swithing between osu! and Taiko ranks. I get osu! rank with Taiko stats/icon after playing Taiko.

Something like this:
Zare
1,512 posts
Joined March 2012
Zare

MillhioreF wrote:

I'm pretty sure this happens because of the new bancho update. To save on data sending, stats are only updated when requested (looked at) and so if players switch game modes while not being looked at, it's seen as a sudden jump in stats. That's my theory, anyway.
I rose 13k ranks today like 10 times, without changing the gamemode at all. Same happens to other people on my friendlist..
[Dellirium]
1,551 posts
Joined October 2010
[Dellirium]

JhowM wrote:

My rank keep swithing between osu! and Taiko ranks. I get osu! rank with Taiko stats/icon after playing Taiko.

Something like this:
^ this.
higurush
313 posts
Joined December 2010
Topic Starter
higurush

MillhioreF wrote:

I'm pretty sure this happens because of the new bancho update. To save on data sending, stats are only updated when requested (looked at) and so if players switch game modes while not being looked at, it's seen as a sudden jump in stats. That's my theory, anyway.
Well, even if it's power saving, it's a bit annoying when I wish to chat with somebody and then whops somebody else pops up~
Saten
Global Moderator
3,863 posts
Joined August 2010
Saten
I sort by location and it still jumps forth and back
The countries never change and most of the time it shows the incorrect order.
lolcubes
osu! Alumni
4,437 posts
Joined November 2010
lolcubes
Can confirm. Several people (Andrea for example) keeps getting things like "-1" whenever I open the friends panel and various people who don't switch game modes get like -40000 and then go back.
peppy
19,301 posts
Here since the beginning
peppy
Does this just happen once? or is it a constant jumping?
lolcubes
osu! Alumni
4,437 posts
Joined November 2010
lolcubes
Every once in a while. Currently at this moment in game it looks fine to me, but earlier today this problem was present pretty much all the time.

edit: it just happened again, almost everyone on my friends list gained/lost insane amounts of ranks, however I was too late to screenshot. Here's one to see what a big mess it is though, but unfortunately the rank numbers faded out except for one.
Note, my friends list was already opened, so it wasn't the activation of Online Users panel, probably something happened on the other side rather than on mine.

SPOILER
peppy
19,301 posts
Here since the beginning
peppy
This is just people switching play modes, though. I will look at making it update more frequently when friends are involved.
Raging Bull
2,785 posts
Joined June 2010
Raging Bull

peppy wrote:

This is just people switching play modes, though. I will look at making it update more frequently when friends are involved.
No. I didn't play any modes besides standard for these past few days and my rank jumps around too. I think it also deals with pp. You can get some pp and your rank will go up but later you can see your rank revert back to what you had and then jump back to your current rank after opening your friends list.
lolcubes
osu! Alumni
4,437 posts
Joined November 2010
lolcubes
When I was spectating a person, for every map that I didn't have and I had to download it said -446 on my profile, so I guess it has something to do with people spectating and getting their rank set to 0 (which we don't see). I am only assuming things currently though.
TheVileOne
osu! Alumni
8,431 posts
Joined March 2010
TheVileOne

peppy wrote:

This is just people switching play modes, though. I will look at making it update more frequently when friends are involved.

IMO the + xxxx ranks effect shouldn't appear when the user changes gamemodes. You're not gaining/losing ranks, just switching to a different rank. It's misleading and seeing 5 figure plus numbers is distracting. Also when people switch gamemodes frequently, it shows your own stats constantly changing. This shows up even in the editor. Go from a different gamemode, and then into the editor and you'll see your stats change even without access to the userpanel.


Edit: It's not even that. People who are AFK are losing and gaining ranks too. I'm gaining ranks just by hanging out in the editor. Something else is going wrong here.
higurush
313 posts
Joined December 2010
Topic Starter
higurush


Now wtf. I am in osu! standard mode, played an osu! standard mode map just now, and I have the osu! standard mode performance point and acc, score and lvl and it shows my taiko rank even though I haven't switched mode the whole day!!
Saten
Global Moderator
3,863 posts
Joined August 2010
Saten
Sometimes my rank goes blank (probably switching to o!m)

Also
The location sorting isn't even showing the correct order.
The name sorting seems to be correct though.

TBTE
466 posts
Joined September 2010
TBTE

Saten wrote:

Sometimes my rank goes blank (probably switching to o!m)

Also
The location sorting isn't even showing the correct order.
The name sorting seems to be correct though.

From what i think that is because it probably doesn't ping as often, as it only needs to ping once to get the screen name and then just be done with it.... unless someone plays a map...
peppy
19,301 posts
Here since the beginning
peppy
There is already a condition for when people change playmodes, which should stop this from happening. A video showing the cases that are most important would be handy, as this thread is a mess of issues I am not sure are related or reproducible.
higurush
313 posts
Joined December 2010
Topic Starter
higurush

peppy wrote:

There is already a condition for when people change playmodes, which should stop this from happening. A video showing the cases that are most important would be handy, as this thread is a mess of issues I am not sure are related or reproducible.
Well, we could sum up the case into 4 issues:
  1. Jumping ranks on friendlist (mod change or not).
    http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/111726&p=2011516
  2. Filters can go crazy, they mess up the ordering (Location and so).
    http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/111726&p=2031548
  3. After a score submit which increased the rank, the rank keeps jumping everytime we play a new map. For example, you raised 10 ranks by a map, but you keep raising that 10 rank again and again after playing a new map without changing mods.
    http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/111726&p=2011742
  4. There are some cases where the osu! client switches ranks in certain mods, for example, it shows the osu!standard mod stats (acc, score, lvl), but shows the taiko rank.
    http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/111726&p=2019337
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