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Ani - Ververg (feat. B) (Ver. B)

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Niva
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Monday, March 04, 2013 at 5:05:33 PM

Artist: Ani
Title: Ververg (feat. B) (Ver. B)
Source: Cytus
Tags: nivalis spboxer3 rayark onoken
BPM: 190
Filesize: 3067kb
Play Time: 01:41
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (2.75 stars, 114 notes)
  2. Hyper (4.94 stars, 204 notes)
  3. Insane (4.9 stars, 272 notes)
  4. Normal (4.49 stars, 194 notes)
Download: Ani - Ververg (feat. B) (Ver. B)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Secret version of http://osu.ppy.sh/s/55328 ~

Cytus is such a wonderful game, B is a wonderful vocalist as well :D
Please redownload after 17 Jan 2013 | Hyper (Hard) by spboxer3, thank you (:

Ani = onoken | b | hitcircleoverlay.png is taken from here | Cytus Official Website
Frostmourne
\:D/
GohanHeros12468
Artist: Ani
Title: Ververg (feat. B) (Ver. B)
Source: Cytus
Tags: nivalis spboxer3 rayark onoken
BPM: 190
Filesize: 2887kb
Play Time: 01:41
Difficulties Available:
Easy (2.72 stars, 115 notes)
Hyper (4.94 stars, 203 notes)
Insane (4.9 stars, 269 notes)
Normal (4.48 stars, 192 notes)
Aurele
Niva, Ververg. That's okay but "Ver. B"?
WVS
All hail Nivalis
10nya
Requested via PM :D
Almost all of this are suggestions Orz Orz

[General]
  1. Since Hard diff using "Hyper", why don't you change the diff names into "Basic" , "Advanced" and "Extreme" ?
[Easy]
  1. 00:46:359 (1)- : add whistle at the slider tail?
  2. 00:49:201 (5)- : add whistle at the slider head? suggestion D:
  3. 01:29:938 (3)- : add whistle to the slider tail?
[Normal]
  1. 01:05:938 (1)- : add clap on slider reverse?
[Hyper]
  1. 00:15:096 (2)- : add normal sample set on slider reverse?
  2. 00:16:991 (3)- : add normal sample set on slider head?
  3. 00:18:886 (3)- : ^
  4. 00:27:412 (2)- : suggestion how about make this slider cuved? like add 2nd slider point at x120 y344?
  5. 00:32:149 (3)- : add normal sample set on slider reverse?
  6. 00:39:728 (3)- : add finish on slider head?
  7. 00:51:096 (3)- : add drum sample set and add finish at the slider head? :D
  8. 00:52:043 (1)- : ^
  9. 00:52:991 (3)- : ^
  10. 00:54:886 (3)- : ^
  11. 00:55:833 (5)- : ^
  12. 00:56:780 (7)- : ^
  13. 00:57:254 (8)- : add sample set normal at this slider head?
  14. 00:57:728 (1)- : add drum sample set and add finish at the slider head? :D
  15. 00:58:675 (3)- : ^
  16. 00:59:622 (5)- : ^
  17. 01:00:570 (1)- : ^
  18. 01:19:991 (4)- : reduce the volume?
  19. 01:29:780 (4)- : add normal sample set?
[Insane]
  1. 00:25:359 (5)- : add clap?
  2. 00:36:570 (3)- : add whistle?
  3. 00:38:464 (2)- : add whistle on slider head?
  4. 01:31:675 - : add note here?
  5. 01:40:201 (5)- : hm.. I prefer change this sample set into auto then add clap here ><
Orz
~/`A`)/~*
Topic Starter
Niva
Gabe : Yep it's (Ver.B), confirmed by this tweet from Cytus' official twitter :3

- t e n n y a - : Lagi nggak online di rumah orz, nanti kalau udah sampai rumah gw cek modnya yah~ (thanks btw xD)

Requested via PM :D
Almost all of this are suggestions Orz Orz

[General]
  1. Since Hard diff using "Hyper", why don't you change the diff names into "Basic" , "Advanced" and "Extreme" ? spboxer3 use Hyper when he gave me the diff :3
[Easy]
  1. 00:46:359 (1)- : add whistle at the slider tail?
  2. 00:49:201 (5)- : add whistle at the slider head? suggestion D:
  3. 01:29:938 (3)- : add whistle to the slider tail?
Done all~

[Normal]
  1. 01:05:938 (1)- : add clap on slider reverse? Umm, there's no clap from the song here >_<
[Insane]
  1. 00:25:359 (5)- : add clap? No clap from the song here o.o
  2. 00:36:570 (3)- : add whistle?
  3. 00:38:464 (2)- : add whistle on slider head? Err, on these two I followed my previous 00:09:728 (1,2,3,4)'s hitsounding xD
  4. 01:31:675 - : add note here? Oh nice suggestion, added~
  5. 01:40:201 (5)- : hm.. I prefer change this sample set into auto then add clap here >< Oh, I can hear a bass drop there :3
Orz
~/`A`)/~*
Thank you - t e n n y a - (:

-----------------------------------------

To Gabe (below) : Err, I just like this song very much :3 (both the standard and secret version~)
Aurele
That's not what I wanted to say.. It was just weird since you've already mapped Ververg.
Kyouren
Ayuk Niva (Nivalis):apa bedanya verr.b samo yang biasa yang lagu jadi rangking
wendao
Hi kak Niva~ o/
cuma suggestion aja yah... :?

[General]
Tumben ga ada bikin diff Taiko lagi x3
Hmm.. Apakah si "B" itu singkatan? o.o
Btw, ga ada Kiai Time yah kayak Ver. A ? :o

[Easy]
01:15:728 (4) Kena scorebar :o

[Normal]
Hmm, kalau pakai Hard Rock kebanyakan hampir nempel ke scorebar :o
00:08:464 (1,2) ouch, sakit ._.

[Hard]
:o so many traps
00:07:517 Add a note for consistent?

[Insane]
00:29:149 (2) Gimana kalau dipindahkan ke 208,256 (?)
01:01:201 Kosong? :o
01:40:675 (7) Kena :o

sekian :) good luck kak Niv~
Topic Starter
Niva
(goku: di sini ada referensi dua versi Ververg, dua-duanya official)

Harez wrote:

Hi kak Niva~ o/
cuma suggestion aja yah... :?

[General]
Tumben ga ada bikin diff Taiko lagi x3
Hmm.. Apakah si "B" itu singkatan? o.o Uhm, idk, di live concert vokalisnya memang ngomong 'I'm b' kok o.o
Btw, ga ada Kiai Time yah kayak Ver. A ? :o Sip, added kiai~

[Easy]
01:15:728 (4) Kena scorebar :o

[Normal]
Hmm, kalau pakai Hard Rock kebanyakan hampir nempel ke scorebar :o
00:08:464 (1,2) ouch, sakit ._. Eh, ini kegeser yah >_< - Fixed (:

[Insane]
00:29:149 (2) Gimana kalau dipindahkan ke 208,256 (?) Eh, itu accelerated spacing :3 (btw, yep, ~x:208 memang jadi bagus tapi ~y:256 malah kurang kelihatan accelerated-nya)
01:01:201 Kosong? :o Yap, itu ngikutin drumnya kok~
01:40:675 (7) Kena :o

sekian :) good luck kak Niv~
Kena HP Bar itu nggak unrankable kok Harez xD (asal nggak keluar dari area permainan~)
Thank you Harez :3
69653863
If you're still waiting/searching for a better quality MP3 make this WIP please.

I'll be back after the MP3's changed.
Topic Starter
Niva
The map is ready to mod though, that's why I put it in pending :3

The song is newly released on Nov 26, so still no high quality mp3 yet...

Need mods atm >_<
stryver12
The 'feat B' should be put in the artist name I think. For now it feels strange at the song name, unless in the album cover says so...
Backstep
I don't like this song, but mapping is awesome <3

\:D/
69653863
okay then

Random mod ( ´ ・ω ・`)
Guide
Red is unrankable and must be fixed.
Pink is you should apply this to any similar notes/parts/patterns/whatever it was stated on it.
Mods with question marks (?) are only suggestion/opinion. You're free to choose whether you're going to apply it or not.

General
  1. I'm confused... The singer is Ani feat. B or only B? Was Ani still singing here or only B singing? If only B singing I think you could remove (feat. B) and leave out only Ververg (Ver. B)
  2. Ah... about the title text~ What if you moved (Ver. B) below the title? Just like this: http://puu.sh/1B3Aj (map url)
  3. And make the artist color (RGB) 45,2,91 title color 18,1,113 and the Ver. B color 35,1,122 it'll be better owob
Easy
  1. 00:08:464 (1) - It'll be better if you could use clap on the slider end instead, seriously. Also this could follow the consistency with Normal and Insane.
  2. 00:31:201 (1) - how about http://puu.sh/1B3Rg
  3. 00:35:938 (2) - x:212 y:12 ?
  4. 00:36:254 (3) - x:296 y:12 ? These are intended for better flow
  5. 01:03:570 (1) - Spinners like this is potentially dangerous on osu!mania mode. Make sure you moved spinners like this onto white ticks, at least 1 beat after last note (not 1/2 beat after last note like this)
  6. 01:31:833 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - hmmm.... rather hard on Easy, actually. Why don't you use more sliders instead?
Normal
  1. AR -1 plz.
  2. Somehow this diff just like Normal+ or even Hard. Idk why but it might be mainly caused by CS4, SV 1.2 on BPM 190, and too much 1/2 pattern utilization, especially like 00:13:043 (2,3) - and 00:14:938 (2,3) - ~btw notes like this especially on BPM >160 are rather impossible to single-click (K1 or M1) for beginners. Even I need to use K1-K2 to hit these notes, so I suggest you to avoid using notes like this too much here otherwise this map could feels Hard. ( ._.)v
  3. 00:24:412 (2) - Whistle?
  4. 00:25:359 (5) - ^
  5. 00:34:991 (1,2) - Unstack plz. (newbies might hit these just like they hit 00:33:412 (2,3) - )
  6. 01:03:570 (1) - See my mod on Easy diff.
  7. 01:12:728 (3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - Okay... These feels really like Hard. Hmm... if you could change 01:13:359 (2,3,5,6,2,3,5,6) - into slider, it'll be much easier to play imo
  8. 01:34:991 (4) - Okay... any newbies will suffer here when they are on osu!mania mode. Try 1/1 slider with one reverse here instead
Insane
  1. AR -1 plz. I don't have any idea why Insane was easier than Hyper. But for the players' sake please fix it @@
  2. 00:16:043 (1,2) - This will make it better: http://puu.sh/1B4o8
  3. 00:23:149 (4,5) - Sudden change on spacing here (from jump to normal) so I suggest stack these to avoid bad movement flow
  4. 00:28:359 (3,4,5,6) - If you could combine these into one long slider, it'll follow the vocal better
  5. 00:43:201 (3,1) - Stack please, movement flow will breaks here if you don't
  6. 00:45:728 (1,2,3,4,1) - Doesn't look symmetric here, I guess?
  7. 01:24:886 (2,1) - Stack please
  8. 01:40:359 (6) - NC?
Hyper
  1. Why not Hard? Hyper is something else, or if you want to use Hyper why don't you also use Another, Basic, and Standard. But changing diff name into Hard will be better
  2. Why no Kiai time?
  3. 00:10:043 (5,1) - Unstack please, seriously.
  4. 00:08:780 (2) - Move to x:428 y:324 for better flow and unconfusing space
  5. 00:55:359 (4,5) - Why not blangket here? It'll be better if you blanket it imo
  6. 01:18:570 (1,2) - Not spaced enough. Or why don't you just stack these?
  7. 01:28:043 (1,2,3) - Oh why.
    80,296,88043,6,0,P|21:241|28:142,1,160,0|2,0:0|0:3,0:0:0
    91,131,88517,2,0,P|149:185|142:284,1,160,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0
    88,216,88991,2,0,P|256:128,2,160,0|2|0,0:0|0:3|1:0,0:0:0
owell, that's all. Nice map, nice song, and nice work Niva ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)b

~
Topic Starter
Niva

inverness wrote:

okay then

Random mod ( ´ ・ω ・`)
Guide
Red is unrankable and must be fixed.
Pink is you should apply this to any similar notes/parts/patterns/whatever it was stated on it.
Mods with question marks (?) are only suggestion/opinion. You're free to choose whether you're going to apply it or not.

General
  1. I'm confused... The singer is Ani feat. B or only B? Was Ani still singing here or only B singing? If only B singing I think you could remove (feat. B) and leave out only Ververg (Ver. B) Ani is the composer, B is the name of the vocalist, both are needed~ (yes Ani isn't a singer)
  2. Ah... about the title text~ What if you moved (Ver. B) below the title? Just like this: http://puu.sh/1B3Aj (map url)
  3. And make the artist color (RGB) 45,2,91 title color 18,1,113 and the Ver. B color 35,1,122 it'll be better owob I'll do it later, yep, following the first Ververg
Easy
  1. 00:08:464 (1) - It'll be better if you could use clap on the slider end instead, seriously. Also this could follow the consistency with Normal and Insane. Umm, actually the clap (if there should be any) it'll be on 00:08:398...
  2. 00:31:201 (1) - how about http://puu.sh/1B3Rg Nope, I prefer like that :3
  3. 00:35:938 (2) - x:212 y:12 ?
  4. 00:36:254 (3) - x:296 y:12 ? These are intended for better flow I prefer symmetry... Moved (2,3) higher anyway
  5. 01:03:570 (1) - Spinners like this is potentially dangerous on osu!mania mode. Make sure you moved spinners like this onto white ticks, at least 1 beat after last note (not 1/2 beat after last note like this) ...I don't want to sacrifice song's melody here (:
  6. 01:31:833 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - hmmm.... rather hard on Easy, actually. Why don't you use more sliders instead? For patterns orz ._.
Normal
  1. AR -1 plz. This diff. setting is carried over from previous Ververg :3
  2. Somehow this diff just like Normal+ or even Hard. Idk why but it might be mainly caused by CS4, SV 1.2 on BPM 190, and too much 1/2 pattern utilization, especially like 00:13:043 (2,3) - and 00:14:938 (2,3) - ~btw notes like this especially on BPM >160 are rather impossible to single-click (K1 or M1) for beginners. Even I need to use K1-K2 to hit these notes, so I suggest you to avoid using notes like this too much here otherwise this map could feels Hard. ( ._.)v
  3. 00:24:412 (2) - Whistle?
  4. 00:25:359 (5) - ^ Umm, nope, two continuous whistles doesn't sound good here (considering the following note already have whistle in it)
  5. 00:34:991 (1,2) - Unstack plz. (newbies might hit these just like they hit 00:33:412 (2,3) - ) How... Don't wanna sacrifice pattern here ._.
  6. 01:03:570 (1) - See my mod on Easy diff.
  7. 01:12:728 (3,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - Okay... These feels really like Hard. Hmm... if you could change 01:13:359 (2,3,5,6,2,3,5,6) - into slider, it'll be much easier to play imo Umm idk the variation to use here... Fixed 01:18:096 (4)'s slider shape instead
  8. 01:34:991 (4) - Okay... any newbies will suffer here when they are on osu!mania mode. Try 1/1 slider with one reverse here instead Removed repeats, added circle
Insane
  1. AR -1 plz. I don't have any idea why Insane was easier than Hyper. But for the players' sake please fix it @@ No, reducing AR doesn't make the star rating shows correctly, plus it'll make this map cluster (due to it's a jumpy map)
  2. 00:16:043 (1,2) - This will make it better: http://puu.sh/1B4o8 Eh... It's intentional, fixed (2)'s angle though
  3. 00:23:149 (4,5) - Sudden change on spacing here (from jump to normal) so I suggest stack these to avoid bad movement flow It's CTRL+H'ed, it plays fun, really~
  4. 00:28:359 (3,4,5,6) - If you could combine these into one long slider, it'll follow the vocal better Umm, I don't want to sacrifice star pattern + accelerated spacing here, I added whistle on (4) instead to follow vocal...
  5. 00:43:201 (3,1) - Stack please, movement flow will breaks here if you don't It's intentional, I've used it on my first star jump anyway (:
  6. 00:45:728 (1,2,3,4,1) - Doesn't look symmetric here, I guess? Oh yes that (2), should be better now
  7. 01:24:886 (2,1) - Stack please Why? I love the pattern variation here though ._.
  8. 01:40:359 (6) - NC? Sure
owell, that's all. Nice map, nice song, and nice work Niva ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)b

~
Thanks :3
Niko-nyan
Random Mod maap telat upload soalnya kesorean + kemarin nda on

Easy~ moe
00:08:464 - jangan NC dunk :( kok 1 ketemu 1 lagi ?
00:16:201 - Spinnernya mulai di garis putih yang 00:16:359 - karena kasihan newbie ;_;
01:03:570 - ^ tapi di 01:03:728 -
01:35:780 - ^ tapi di 01:35:938 -

Normal
00:08:464 - sama seperti Easy
00:16:201 - sama seperti Easy
01:03:570 - sama seperti Easy
01:18:728 - spinernya di garis putih
01:35:780 - ^

hanya itu ;_;
wups maap kalau ada yg sama :D
Topic Starter
Niva

Frans Niko wrote:

Random Mod maap telat upload soalnya kesorean + kemarin nda on

Easy~ moe
00:08:464 - jangan NC dunk :( kok 1 ketemu 1 lagi ? Sengaja frans, ngikutin Insane :3 - btw did something to this part's hitsound...
00:16:201 - Spinnernya mulai di garis putih yang 00:16:359 - karena kasihan newbie ;_;
01:03:570 - ^ tapi di 01:03:728 -
01:35:780 - ^ tapi di 01:35:938 -

Normal
00:08:464 - sama seperti Easy
00:16:201 - sama seperti Easy
01:03:570 - sama seperti Easy
01:18:728 - spinernya di garis putih
01:35:780 - ^

hanya itu ;_;
wups maap kalau ada yg sama :D

Kalau spinner itu seperti ini sih sebenarnya Frans: sebagai contoh nada utamanya itu di sini 01:03:412, kalau spinnernya ditaruh 1/1 feel-nya kurang dapat imo xD - 1/2 untuk Easy/Normal + 1/4 untuk Hard/Insane gpp kok imo, udah sering gw pakai malah Frans~
Thank you xD
Saten
Hi Niva o.o/

inverness wrote:

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)b
god! not this face again asasdadsd

[General]
  1. I find this clap more fitting than the regular one you're using imo. You should try it and see what you think.
  2. What is the soft-sliderslide used for? It sounds like a soft-slidertick. o.o
[Insane]
Why not rename it to Another instead, because there is a Hyper already
00:07:517 (1,2,3) - it should start on 20% instead. This part is kinda low to begin with anyway
00:16:043 (1) - Finish start
00:18:886 (4) - the follow circle is partly outside the screen. But I guess it doesn't even matter because it's only for a brief moment.
00:17:464 (4) - offbeat 1/2 sliders with 1/1 space plays kinda odd imo. There are a few more like this on your map, but those are easy to locate for you.
00:54:412 (2) - Reversing this (Ctrl+G) makes the pattern kinda fun imo. Unless you want to strictly follow 1,0x
01:01:201 - this empty space feels kinda weird because of the previous patterns that were similar. Yeah, I know that there isn't really a beat here, only vocal
01:01:517 (1) - the end is unsnapped
01:01:991 (2) - ^ same because it's a pasta
01:35:307 (2,3) - why are you so evil ;w; I would change this to a 1/1, but it's only my preference.
01:40:675 (2) - This is really high up. Yes I know you still can see the whole hitcircle, but not the whole approach-circle. I test played it ant that note felt awkward ;w; You can solve this by moving down 01:40:359 (1,2) - a bit

[Hyper]
You dislike Kiai? o3o
The SV and AR doesn't really match so well imo. I suggest you increase the AR by 1. It also becomes easier to detect your anti-jumps.
00:07:517 - Why don't you start here on a downbeat? add whistles on these first circles before the finish
00:07:833 (1,2) - these are too loud imo ;w; Try to follow the suggestion I made on Insane
00:17:307 (4,1) - evil stacking with a pause
00:19:833 (1) - finish on start
00:34:991 (1) - a soft finish fits better here imo
01:05:307 (1) - as above
01:07:201 (5) - NC? because a new part and a different type of sliders
01:10:991 (5) - ^
01:23:307 (1) - soft finish~
01:31:833 (1) - add finish here

[Normal]
For some reason, 5 feels slow. I personally would use 6. It rarely occurs that 6 is used on a Normals, but there are exceptions
00:07:517 (1) - lower this like I mentioned on the previous difficulties
00:34:991 (1,2) - could you unstack these? Players will mainly think that it's a 1/2 beat
01:05:780 - add a note here? It would flow more if you added something here imo
01:09:570 - same as above
01:18:728 (1) - Remove whistle? it kinda doesn't fit here imo
01:40:201 (3,1,2,3) - this ending is somewhat weird. Can't you make it a bit more simple? I kinda derped here lol

[Easy]
Use AR 4? It flows better imo
I think you are kinda overusing 1/1 chains on the first kiai, but no harm really =w=
00:07:517 (1) - same as the others, I guess you know by now :3


Nice beatmap!
Just some nitpicking here and there~

Good luck :3
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