this post is a mistake.
no!! only that one! all other posts on this world are god-given gifts of perfection and majesty!Arphimigon wrote:
What if... all posts are mistakes!?
Cinerex24 wrote:
always ~Arphi's Marathon~
- Having both a 1/2 and 1/1 circle-slider intersect like at 01:07:363 (2,3) - and 01:10:069 (3,4) - makes the rhythm a little unclear, especially when playing with mods. Personally, I'm a fan of having the 1/2 note stick out a little at normal spacing. (also see: 01:50:811 (3,4) - 02:01:952 (1,2) - 02:16:594 (4,5) - 02:17:867 (2,3) - 02:21:687 (4,5) - 02:22:960 (2,3) - etc.) Coming from the perspective of a mapper who plays with reading-based mods (EZ and FL mostly) I have no problem with these kinda stacks
- 04:00:997 (4,5,6,7) - consider bada bada sliders instead wot is a bada bada slider
- 05:04:657 (5,6) - Could make into a slider. (05:14:843 (5,6) - ) Dont like the long random hold
- 07:12:089 (1) - Could add a spinner after this note... me NO LIKE SPINNER esp RANDOM SPINNER >:C
Thanks tons! ^^Cinerex24 wrote:
Since I'm more experienced as a player than as a mapper, I'm going to approach this from the gameplay perspective first and then as a mapper. Hopefully, it gives you a little different insight. Also, I'm not as good at modding LOWER difficulties XD so, please forgive me if Arphi's marathon seems (just slightly) neglected. I just couldn't think of as much to say. Ok! that's all good by me \o/always ~Intense Marathon~General Comments
- 00:04:180 (7,8) - would be cool if these were symetrical I'm not sure if this timestamp is taking me to the right place as these objects aren't even close to visible at the same time to where symmetry would be beneficial ><
- 00:40:785 (1,2,3,4) - These "streams" surprised me the first time I saw them. Spacing made me think they were faster than they actually were, but I like how your mapping reflected the change in sound too. *shrugs* Could make it jumpy (increase spacing instead) or just leave it, I got used to them. As long as the player can get used to them, then I think it's fine ^^. I considered jumpy, but I felt the closer spacing reflected how close the drums sound in time fairly well.
- 00:43:331 (4) - If you were looking for a spot for a spinner, could replace the break here with one. Nah, I usually try to avoid spinners on calm fadeouts, since I feel they are better fit for BIG INTENSE MOMENTS.
- 00:58:291 (3) - Follows the vocal line's sustained notes until this note, so maybe you could do a reverse slider here or something to continue the pattern... I think the finish is pretty big and important, and it'd be awkward to make it not clickable as I'd switch to following the drum at 00:59:246 - anyways.
- 01:05:453 (6,7) - Since the drum line doesn't do this, it's kinda weird to add the vocal line's note at 6 into the pattern unless you turn 6 & 7 into a slider... or also see more below o.o I instead changed 5,6 to a slider. That way 7, which is a strong drum, remains clicked while addressing what you brought up.
- 01:21:209 (7,8,1) - Haha, from your mod of my map, I know that you wouldn't like my way of handling the syncopation of the vocal line XD It really depends on the song, the map, and what you're trying to follow. The main reason for my critiques was that it sometimes felt like skipping over the more apparent parts of the song in favour of subtler ones. (getting rid of 8, starting 1 on the red tick and bending sharply on the white tick to capture the sound of the bass drum in the shape of the slider) since you told me to break up my sliders whenever I did that! xP But I still think it feels awkward having the vocal line's onset notated the same way that you notate the snare fills and hi-hats. Maybe if you presented it differently... like on top the next note or something... (but I suppose it's playable as is too...) Here too: 02:01:952 (6,7,1) - I changed these to sliders instead.
- 01:27:575 (3,4,5) - ...hmmm... well, it's not the way you notated the snare fills during the intro, it's the way you mapped that guitar ditty. But maybe it fits because the section is more chill? (here too: 02:08:318 (4,5,6) - More like, I think it'd be ultra misleading to have the rare 1/2 circles so close together follow different spacing patterns.
- 01:30:599 (5,6,7) - not sure why you didn't make these sliders cause well, the section is really calm. Having 1/2 sliders back to back doesn't really fit with that, imo.
- 01:32:509 (4,5) - this double threw me off when playing... don't know if that stems from my hated of doubles though... Quite possible..
01:33:782 (9) - mixed feelings about this note. maybe cool how it reflects the dramatic pause in the accompaniment, kinda wish it didn't leave the vocal line hanging. >.< But it sets up the whammy so nicely! Very mixed feelings. >-< same here when mapping it. #do it for the whammy- 01:34:260 (1) - Nice guitar whammy slider (and here too: 01:39:352 (1) - 01:44:445 (1) - 02:09:910 (1) - 02:15:003 (1) - etc.) I'm very glad someone appreciates these ! :>
- 01:35:692 (5,6,7) - could make sliders to reflect the held notes, but it is a cool pattern. not changing for the reason mentioned above, but thanks >v<!
- 01:40:785 (5) - don't think there's anything to map here! shh.. i'll make it a slider end
- 01:46:992 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - cool buildup o no this made me realize one of the stacks was off so fixed it. also thanks! c:
- 02:19:140 (6) - I like this emphasis of the high sustained vocal part--do keep! (though I'm curious why you chose not to map the chord change in the middle) Thanks! and well, it's like that cause it'd be odd to end it 1/1 earlier, or start it 1/1 later, since the vocal is continuously there.
- 02:29:644 - why no map this sound? I had it to be a dramatic pause for where the guitar dropped off. Added a superslow slider to make this more interactive!
- 02:30:281 (1) - REALLY like the momentum of this section thanks! C:
- 02:32:509 (5) - I think a have a bias against covered notes. I usually do too, but I really feel like stacks work in these parts, since the 02:32:509 (5) - and similar aren't very strong.
- 02:55:426 (5) - meh ^
- 02:57:655 (4,5) - I like it here, though. excellent
- 03:02:907 (5,6) - Nice symmetrical effect. it all comes 00:23:437 (2,3) - full circuru
- 03:11:024 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Neat use of spacing to reflect the fade. I agre- er, ahem, I mean, thanks I'm glad it works ^^
- 03:51:130 (4,5,6,7) - I kinda like it here due to the contrast with the fast vocal rhythms. DUDUDUDU
- 04:05:772 (1,2,3) - This line is different because the guitar drops out. Maybe could change it up a little? that's already why it's pretty straight in direction, rather than mixing around. If there's another way I could change it up that you have in mind, let me know >o<
- 04:18:504 (1,2,3,4,5) - Cool rhythmic shifting going on here! thanks, I had a hard time figuring out how to map it.. switching from 1/2 to 1/3 circles like I originally tried did not go well, so this is the result.
- 04:47:468 (5) - Okay just hear me out... what if it like jumped back to the previous note or something? ^_^* I suppose the double does build toward the impact of the next note though :/ Yep, you've figured me out. No changeo
- 05:12:615 (5,6) - This one is kinda hard to read for me, due to the localized syncopation pattern here. maybe make 3-4 or 4-5 a slider? I tried out a lot of things for this, but couldn't figure out a way I found better than the current one. I'll continue looking at it though and change it if I ever have a good idea
- 05:21:846 (1) - pretty slider I actually drew it with the head and tail in the top middle.. Arphimigon had to fix it for me as the same shape but starting/ending at the bottom instead. So it's a collaborative effort C:!
- 05:56:131 (2,3,4) - Whoa, song defies my expectations of rhythm.right?? it even continues with the base 1/1 instrumental behind the vocals too. extra mixed.
- 05:57:833 (3,1) - Hehe. Agree to disagree? I dunno what we're disagreeing on here though o.o!
- 06:00:174 (3) - I like how this slider is recurrent to represent this sound. (:!
- 06:09:536 (1,2,3,4) - Think maybe having 2 spaced evenly between end of 1 and 3 might be more readable. Maybe could do something with the bass drum too in the middle of 3, if you wanted. I think that the rhythm emphasis is good though. I think this is currently a good setup, as it emphasizes that 06:09:855 (2,3) - is a bit of a double in the drum, whereas there's nothing similar at 06:09:748 - this time , so having them all spaced the same would take away from it.
- 06:14:004 (3) - Sorta interesting sound in the middle of the slider that isn't mapped... but if you did then it would interfere with the symetrical slider thingy you were doing which was pretty cool too. yea, also cause this pattern is following the vocals ><
- 06:32:302 (3) - MEGGSGHSSGJSSHD i guess. sound mostly stop = movement stop
- 06:36:982 (2,3,4) - Oh, this is cool! s y m m e t r y! woo! thanks~
--I like how the combo colors change between songs. thanks >w<~
--Not a fan of small CS, but that's just a personal issue. ok so the story goes like so: I used to use a laptop, made most things in cs 4. then, I got a desktop PC. A really nice big monitor. Now, visually, cs 4.5 is the same size as cs 4 used to be to me, so then I ended up with a preference for an average of 4.5.. yeaahhh.
kwk wrote:
from q~
[noffy]
-Don't you feel like the clap hitsounds are way too loud, i feel like all i hear are your claps while the song itself is like the background noise lol I already lowered them before too aaa D: ...
-00:18:026 strange for this to be skipped since i do think you are following the guitar here? not really? just the same part as the intro+drummos
-00:24:392 (4,5) - i think a slider here would be nice so you can emphasise the guitar drop or whatever your suppose to be called, same with the rest till here 00:33:146 Will keep it as in idea but I think the current way already emphasizes it well
-00:40:785 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - surprised to see this isnt spaced more, when comparing to the spacing in the intro contrast for the sudden constant 1/2s that sound like the drums really close in time so objects are close too and whee
-01:25:984 (6,7) - be nice if this was spaced more since you are predominantly following the vocals in this section m-muh ds
-01:48:583 (6) - make could consider shorting it to 3/4 and adding a note on the white tick? i think it would be a cool way to end it off hmm, if you have a recommended placement i'll do it, cause I can't figure out a cool way to do so without ruining the current vortex movement of 01:48:265 (5,6) - ><
-02:23:119 (3) - i think this would have been fine if your claps weren't so loud, but it definitely sounds strange when you skip over it here oh dang that's true , it's also inconsistent with 02:18:026 (3) - .. changed to a 1/2 slider and adjusted following pattern some
-02:45:082 (7) - 03:05:453 (7) - suprised this isnt a 4 point slider considering the similar sounds here 02:42:535 (5,6) - Yeah, I think those types of sliders look best in a group, it'd be weird as just the one.
-04:43:330 (2,1,3) - these arent equally spaced if your intending them to be,(3) is off by a bit oh snap! fixed, thanks greatly!
-05:05:612 (1) -05:15:798 (1) - split this into 2 sliders or a note+1/2 slider since that seems to be similar to what you did here 05:19:618 (5,6) - ? I can't really say they're the similar enough for that, since the example was preceded by the 1/2, and there is no clap at 05:20:254 - like there was at 05:16:435 - , hence the different times for sliders.
-06:19:748 (5,6) - shame that you decided to stick with the same rhythm as this 06:18:472 (1,2) - since the music is quite different at this point, though i guess you choose to ignore it in this section which im not sure i like i'd like to save the circles for 06:24:855 (4) - so it has more impact. additionally, i think the current placements help to emphasize how it's different by making it a bit more uncomfy to play than 06:18:472 (1,2) - was.
06:50:174 (6,8,9) - looks better if you move 06:51:025 (8,9) - so that 6 is in the center This is different from 06:39:961 (6,7,8) - because the sliders before and after are straight, not angled. I think by having it a bit open this second time around, the circular feeling is widened and fits in better with the pattern overall.
~ thankee !
will wait on arphi's reply for this onemakisokk wrote:
Oh dam, as long as I wrote a mod here wrote Naotoshi, as I understand my mod is not so important
Hello form my que helloo
maybe it's mod bad
[Genreal]Good luck with map tyty
- 06:36:344 - In my 3 kiai start only here I think the current kiai set up is best fit, starting when the song lifts up with the strings.
07:13:365 - Checks SB,2 the inscriptions touch each other and can not be read well they're set to pass/fail layers, and only one would be seen during gameplay based offof player performance.
slightly lowered the volume of hitsounds soft-hitclap and drum-hitfinish5Kurai wrote:
8-) ☀️☀️☀️
[General][always ~Intense Marathon~]
- No spinners found in a 7-minute long map? :'( there wasn't really anywhere I felt one would fit besides 05:21:846 (1) - which is a cute slider shape instead )':
- 00:41:899 (4,1) - Maybe you could increase the spacing between those two objects to accentuate the increase in intensity in the music? added small increase spacing here, especially since it nicely divides the two halves of the pattern c:
- 00:43:172 (3,4) - Same I tried it, but I think it looks out of place to have it as just the one object off from the others that are evenly spaced.
- 00:55:745 (5) - Since the beat at 00:56:063 - is much stronger than the vocals ending at 00:56:222 - , in my opinion it would be better not to focus completely on the vocals, but include this strong beat in the pattern as well (especially considering that you extensively follow the drums in your map). You would have a pattern like 00:53:199 (5,6,7) - where the first slider ends at 00:56:063 - and have a circle at 00:56:222 - . see v
00:57:018 (1,2) - ^ For these, I'd prefer to keep them as their current extended sliders as in addition to following the vocals, I feel it helps create an additional calm, slowing down feeling prior to the 00:58:610 (1) - cymbal crash here.- 01:17:389 (1) - In this case it is fine to leave it as it is because it well emphasizes the vocals). c: !!
- 01:18:981 (2) - I think you shouldn't stack this one with (1) as here you haves cymbals playing which suggests an accentuation (e.g. a higher spacing). Stacking them just make it anticlimactic. adjusted this to have some spacing, but not too much as it's the only 1/4 here and having at the regular 1.4 spacing would risk a player confusing it for the closer 1/2s
- 02:06:726 - Did you use a drum-sampleset clap here by accident or was it on purpose? no.. it was an accident while trying to use the rotate tool ;w;.. fixed
- 05:21:846 (1) - cute <3
- 05:59:323 - Hard got a hold 1/8 kick slider here. It could be a good idea to implement it here as well, don't you think? mmm, I dont really think so, as in my difficulty there's not really a focus on the sound effects except for the gunshots, unlike arphimigon's which accentuates the majority of them, as visualized by his use of red combocolours.
- 06:08:685 - ^ ^
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Noffy wrote:
y a b r o k e t h e c o l o r h a x a g a i n ARPHIMIGON...
i'll fix it dw
Kurai wrote:
8-)
Naotoshi wrote:
oh wtf it got bubbled while i was modding lmaooo oops ;;
anyway not gonna pop or bubble, lemme get that out of the way ok
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i find the entire intro drastically overspaced to be honest.
like its suuuuper calm stuff but theres really forced movement and high 1/1 spacing ;w;
like compare to the spacing used at 00:20:414 (1,2,3) - where theres drums and stuff. 00:05:135 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - stuff like this is actually much harder and more uncomfortable to play eehh? really? ;v; I feel the intro is already fairly calm to play and where the drums come in already more intense, in part thanks to the denser rhythms. so.. uhh, eh. I feel that this intro is one of the most energetic parts of the song besides the kiai, so I don't think it'd be fitting to map it as a calmer part.
basically pls nerf
00:42:058 (1) - not sure why you put a kickslider here but inserting them into streams like this makes the stream kinda uncomfortable if you dont put a jump to the next note. i thinkk just using circles for this entire thing makes more sense.. 00:42:217 - lacks the strong kick present at other red ticks, hence the slider. I added a smol jumpo. Now slider is seperate and special.
same thing for the next section. like your base spacing is just used for the entire thing, so its kinda lame imo. you could differentiate vocals a bit, like 01:04:658 (3,4,5) - 01:05:294 (5,6) - also ctrl g this no plans to change the spacing, ctrl+g'd that.
01:15:479 (3,4) - slider? slider'd
01:32:828 (6,7,8) - making these relate better would be nice. like a triangle pattern or making 6 7 parallel, or putting 9 in between 6 and 7 so the axis of reflection is clear. fixed position of 9 for reflectos, made small adjustments to pattern overall.
01:37:443 (3,5) - the randomly tiny visual spacing like this looks weird.. after great thought, adjusted this pattern to be similar to the likes of 02:23:596 (4,5,6,7,8) - .
01:46:992 (1) - 3 circles fits better imo Prefer the slider, it helps make it obvious everything is speeding up rather than there just being jumps or somesort.
01:48:265 (5,6) - making 5 blanket 6 better would be nice too. you can just rotate 6 a bit to achieve this well, like, I think making this blanket would mess with the current nice spiral movement the pattern currently has http://puu.sh/xyTAv/9a7198d564.jpg
01:53:676 (4,5,6) - visual spacing plz I think this set up is currently best for the pattern it is a part of, and increasing the spacing anymore would be detrimental to its appearance overall.
02:57:973 (5) - wouldnt 2 circles fit better with your hitsounds? ...fixed hitsound here and one other spot.
03:45:082 (1) - having this start the pattern even though the vocal enters at03:45:400 (2) - doesn't make much sense ;w; 03:45:082 - is o, following both itsumadem OOO and entering into OOOrewa.. adjusted + nc change
05:55:493 (1) - so this entire section is just going in a counterclockwise >.> can you try and vary it a bit I don't see the problem here, there's a lot of smaller twists around within this general ccw movement. Additionally, helps 06:15:919 - everything starting here to feel significantly different, as this has bigger and fairly frequent directional changes.
well, the rhythm is generally fine. but the use of constant high ds 1/1 seems kinda lame to me cuz u end up putting clicks on stuff and then not differentiating the parts where the vocals come in at all.
additionally, since the DS is so high, and the AR is as well, a lot of the slower parts look rather messy and not-patterned ._. if there's parts in particular of the slower sections with such a problem, i'll try to fix them if needed D:
maybe its cuz i just dont like ds mapping style much tho /shrug quite possibly, cause I feel the map is pretty .. uhh, what's the word.. oh yes, is very fully realized of what it's intended to be.
good luck thank u naotoshi
Red is NOArphimigon wrote:
Noffy pls I have no idea what the colours in your mod responses mean
Kurai wrote:
:D
jonathanlfj wrote:
wait why is the bubble popped xD
07:18:046 - for the sb there is overlapping text here, is that a mistake or is there some intention for it?
Otherwise fix the sb get the rebubble and i can probably qualify this (no kd btw)
Kurai wrote:
rebubburu
Aa thank you so very muchjonathanlfj wrote:
that makes sense, never seen people use that feature tho so good for u for leveraging it
Naotoshi wrote:
something something unrankable diffnames btw ..