This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Wednesday, 30 October 2013 at 12:28:32 PM

Artist: yuikonnu
Title: Childhood Blues
Source: NicoNico Douga
Tags: vocaloid covers
BPM: 148
Filesize: 5913kb
Play Time: 04:40
Difficulties Available:

1. Hard (4.91 stars, 613 notes)
2. Insane (5 stars, 730 notes)
3. Normal (2.77 stars, 277 notes)

Download: yuikonnu - Childhood Blues
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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My first beatmap
Please mod
初めてのマップｗｗ
Difficulties:
Normal Done, Need Modding
Hard Done, Need Modding
Insane Done, Need Modding

hi from m4m

[Hard]
00:24:741 (4) - change this http://puu.sh/4NVph.jpg
01:11:970 (1) - NC
01:12:782 (1) - Remove NC
01:21:903 (5) - add finish on head
01:25:146 (1) - Remove whistie
01:25:146 (1) - add finish
01:31:633 (4) - ^ and ^^
01:38:119 (2) - add finish
02:25:146 (1) - ^
02:25:780 - the time set come back to 02:25:754
02:26:565 (6) - add finish on fail
02:39:741 (3) - add finish on head
02:42:984 (3) - ^
03:12:173 (3) - ^
03:13:795 (1) - ^
03:15:416 (1) - ^
04:18:660 (1) - ^
04:12:173 (1) - add finish
02:52:131 - ^ come back to 02:52:207
03:10:551 (8,11) - bad overlap.................03:11:160 (11) - can put this none on x:236 y:60
03:56:970 - add note
03:57:173 - ^
04:12:173 (1) - NC
04:18:660 (1) - ^
04:32:443 (3) - move to x:292 y:220 this is good look for this
04:35:484 (8,9) - ctrl+g

the end
good lucky

wmtokok wrote:

hi from m4m

[Hard]
00:24:741 (4) - change this http://puu.sh/4NVph.jpg OK
01:11:970 (1) - NC OK
01:12:782 (1) - Remove NC OK
01:21:903 (5) - add finish on head OK
01:25:146 (1) - Remove whistie OK
01:25:146 (1) - add finish OK
01:31:633 (4) - ^ and ^^ OK
01:38:119 (2) - add finish OK
02:25:146 (1) - ^ OK
02:25:780 - the time set come back to 02:25:754 OK
02:26:565 (6) - add finish on fail OK
02:39:741 (3) - add finish on head OK
02:42:984 (3) - ^ OK
03:12:173 (3) - ^ OK
03:13:795 (1) - ^ OK
03:15:416 (1) - ^ OK
04:18:660 (1) - ^ OK
04:12:173 (1) - add finish OK
02:52:131 - ^ come back to 02:52:207 OK
03:10:551 (8,11) - bad overlap.................03:11:160 (11) - can put this none on x:236 y:60 OK
03:56:970 - add note OK
03:57:173 - ^ OK
04:12:173 (1) - NC OK
04:18:660 (1) - ^ OK
04:32:443 (3) - move to x:292 y:220 this is good look for this OK
04:35:484 (8,9) - ctrl+g OK

the end
good lucky

Thank you very much for modding

Hi

1. Offset: 4,102ms BPM: 148.00

check there

Tngot wrote:

Hi

1. Offset: 4,102ms BPM: 148.00

check there

Wait are you sure?
I tried changing the offset and it sounds a little off to me but I'm not entirely sure because it's my first time mapping.

from PM
[General]
Current metronome is lagged, offset should be 2443.
I don't recommend to use soft-normal hit sound. you can put hit-sounds by your own.
KIAI TIME should be at 01:21:902~01:47:848 / 02:26:767~02:52:307 / 04:12:172 ~ 04:38:118
Overall, I have to pint out so many, but it is so hard for me, and tired. so now, I only say general issuus under Hard diff.
[Easy]
・Always use Distant Snap, you must follow this and keep constant spacing.
・Use constant rhythm, it is a easiest diff so for newbie, we must make this diff more carefully.
[Normal]
・Always use Distant Snap, you must follow this and keep constant spacing.
・Make plain slider, I found some slider looks weird like this. You can make slider with straightness.
・It's not recommended to use many stacks, set apart better.
[Hard]
・　CS4 AR7 better.
・Use Distant snap positively and keep constant spacing, it looks so radomly.
・There are many blanks like Insane, you can put notes batter, it is to keep consistence for beatmap.
・If you aim to put jumping, it means to ignore Distant Snap, consider movement flow more carefully.
・Do not abuse triplet notes and 1/4 kick slider in this diff, you can replace these notes to 1/2 slider or just circle.
[Insane]
Placement
00:09:335(7,8) CTLR+G would be more nice flow for playing.
01:37:915(6) NC here for the slow down. Player doesn't expect without noting.
02:50:281(9)^
02:16:024(4,5) Flow suggestion, you can put notes more playable like rotationally.
02:32:849(5) same.
03:16:430(5)^
Rhythm
00:04:065(4) I suppose you can start a slider from here to follow the vocal, it will be more much
00:15:315(1) Beginning should be at 00:15:214.
00:27:781 add 1/2 slider, I don't follow this blank for Insane.
01:09:132~ I don't agree these blank for Insane, you can put more notes better. To follow the vocal is one of the mapping styles, but in common we should follow the music more positively not vocal.
01:15:821^
02:03:053^
02:12:375~02:15:010 ^
02:20:686~
01:46:632(1) Spinner should be started at 01:46:328
02:51:396(1) Spinner should be started at 02:51:193
03:20:379(1) Delete this one and extend previous spinner better.
03:51:932(3,4,5) To follow the vocal propely, maybe it will be better.
03:57:579(3,4,5) ^
04:21:903(4) It doesn't follow music properly, delete it and replace better.
Hit Sonud
I suppose you missed many basic finish sounds.
00:46:226(3) Add finish
00:52:713(2) Add finish at head.
and more. you can listen music carefully, then add finished properly.

I know it's your 1st mapping, so placement looks fine. But Rhythm and Hit sound are more improved. Now, I don't mod easier diff because if I point out many things, you may be confused. The way to improve your map is you can see many Ranked maps, which help your map more better.
Good Luck.

Hi, M4M

[General]
Follow kajiyatta's offset for 2443. Seems acceptable. To confirm, you should consider going to #modreqs and ask for a timing request.
In Song Setup, go to Design tab, uncheck widescreen support and letterbox during breaks.

[Easy]
Just like what kajiyatta said, always use distance snap for Easy and Normal difficulties. This is because new players cannot read/play inconsistent spacing.
Try to reduce the hitsound volume a little bit more. They seem to be too loud for me, and soft-claps don't fit well with the music.
For Easy difficulties, map on only white ticks. The reason most of the notes are on red ticks is mostly due to incorrect offset. Use 1/1 measure to enforce the white tick rule for yourself.
01:21:092 (1) - add finish
01:35:281 (8,9) - does not fit the rhythm
02:02:444 (1) - remove NC
02:24:335 (4,5) - snap it and make a triangle pattern
02:25:957 (6) - stack with 02:23:525 (3)
02:26:768 (1) - add finish
02:33:254 (1,2,3) - make a triangle patter w/ distance snap
04:10:551 (1) - add finish to slider head
04:35:687 (3) - new players will not be able to read that many repeats. maybe try reducing the repeat to 1, or just make it a 1/1 slider with no repeats to match the longer vocals.

Try to add more sliders in the lower difficulties. They are much easier for new players. General rule is that Sliders > Circles in Easy and Normal.

[Normal]
Refer to Easy for things to fix in Normal as well. Distance snap, following rhythm, etc.
For Normal, it is acceptable to map on red ticks, but don't map on blue ticks unless the music requires you to do so.
Avoid stacking a lot of notes. New players will have trouble reading it.
00:15:011 (7) - not to rhythm
00:48:660 (2) - maybe make this to a one repeat, and one note at 00:48:660 (2) -
01:15:619 (8) - add circle
01:32:443 (9) - one repeat, note at end of slider.
01:26:362 (1) - Remove finish
01:34:876 (2) - remove finish from slider head, add it on 01:34:673 (1)
01:39:335 (2) - remove finish
01:40:957 (4) - add finish
01:42:984 (8) - remove finish
02:01:227 (2) - remove finish
03:46:227 (2) - move back two ticks left
03:47:139 (3) - move back three ticks left
03:47:849 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6) - move the entire section two ticks left to match rhythm better
03:54:133 (5) - remove finish
03:58:187 (3,4,5,6) - move two ticks back as well
04:07:916 (4) - sv change not really needed

[Hard]
Circle Size 4, AR 7, HP 6.
00:18:153 (4) - the triplet imo isn't really needed so I would remove this.
you should lay low on some of the triplets...a lot of them make it feel like overmapping and don't fit the song well.
02:26:565 (6) - remove finish from overall slider, just leave the one at slider end
04:22:511 - missing note here
02:17:849 (8,9,10) - make same spacing
04:04:065 (1) - manipulating slider speed with red node/anchors are unrankable. Please change the slider to make it readable. Refer to t/158947.

[Insane]
try to not break the flow. there are a lot of instances where you have unmapped areas that could be mapped very nicely and wouldn't break the flow of the map. you should also space out your streams a little to match your sv. i suggest using 0.8x distance spacing for the streams
00:20:889 (7) - its too far away, move this to form a square with 00:20:281 (4,5,6) and then move 00:21:092 (8) - to form a triangle pattern with 00:20:687 (6,7)
01:22:308 (8) - this slider sounds off.
01:21:700 (6) - add finish to slider end
01:28:389 (1) - add finish
01:41:362 (4) - add finish
03:17:849 (1,1) - make it to one spinner.

Yeah, there are a lot more things to point out. Feel free to message me in-game if you have any questions. If you want, I can do a recheck for you after you feel the map has improved. Your modding isn't bad though, but I strongly suggest you look at some of your favorite maps and study the different types of mapping styles. Additionally, modding more will give you different ideas for your map can help you build the foundation for your mapping style. Good luck and don't give up!

kajiyatta wrote:

from PM
[General]
Current metronome is lagged, offset should be 2443. FIXED
I don't recommend to use soft-normal hit sound. you can put hit-sounds by your own. I should put just normal hitsound?
KIAI TIME should be at 01:21:902~01:47:848 / 02:26:767~02:52:307 / 04:12:172 ~ 04:38:118 FIXED
Overall, I have to pint out so many, but it is so hard for me, and tired. so now, I only say general issuus under Hard diff. Sorry ><
[Easy]
・Always use Distant Snap, you must follow this and keep constant spacing.
・Use constant rhythm, it is a easiest diff so for newbie, we must make this diff more carefully.
[Normal]
・Always use Distant Snap, you must follow this and keep constant spacing.
・Make plain slider, I found some slider looks weird like this. You can make slider with straightness.
・It's not recommended to use many stacks, set apart better.
[Hard]
・　CS4 AR7 better. FIXED
・Use Distant snap positively and keep constant spacing, it looks so radomly. FIXED MOSTLY
・There are many blanks like Insane, you can put notes batter, it is to keep consistence for beatmap. FIXED MOSTLY
・If you aim to put jumping, it means to ignore Distant Snap, consider movement flow more carefully. OK
・Do not abuse triplet notes and 1/4 kick slider in this diff, you can replace these notes to 1/2 slider or just circle. Fixed alot of overused triples
[Insane]
Placement
00:09:335(7,8) CTLR+G would be more nice flow for playing. FIXED

SPOILER

01:37:915(6) NC here for the slow down. Player doesn't expect without noting. FIXED
02:50:281(9)^ FIXED
02:16:024(4,5) Flow suggestion, you can put notes more playable like rotationally. FIXED

SPOILER

02:32:849(5) same. FIXED

SPOILER

03:16:430(5)^ FIXED

SPOILER

Rhythm
00:04:065(4) I suppose you can start a slider from here to follow the vocal, it will be more much FIXED

SPOILER

00:15:315(1) Beginning should be at 00:15:214. FIXED
00:27:781 add 1/2 slider, I don't follow this blank for Insane. FIXED
01:09:132~ I don't agree these blank for Insane, you can put more notes better. To follow the vocal is one of the mapping styles, but in common we should follow the music more positively not vocal. FIXED
01:15:821^ FIXED
02:03:053^ FIXED
02:12:375~02:15:010 ^ FIXED
02:20:686~ FIXED
01:46:632(1) Spinner should be started at 01:46:328 FIXED
02:51:396(1) Spinner should be started at 02:51:193 FIXED
03:20:379(1) Delete this one and extend previous spinner better. FIXED
03:51:932(3,4,5) To follow the vocal propely, maybe it will be better. FIXED

SPOILER

03:57:579(3,4,5) ^ FIXED
04:21:903(4) It doesn't follow music properly, delete it and replace better. FIXED
Hit Sonud
I suppose you missed many basic finish sounds. Yes I still have to put many hitsounds
00:46:226(3) Add finish FIXED
00:52:713(2) Add finish at head. FIXED
and more. you can listen music carefully, then add finished properly.

I know it's your 1st mapping, so placement looks fine. But Rhythm and Hit sound are more improved. Now, I don't mod easier diff because if I point out many things, you may be confused. The way to improve your map is you can see many Ranked maps, which help your map more better.
Good Luck.

Thanks so much for mod, very helpful
I've fixed most of the issues in normal/hard/insane hopefully :L
I'm thinking of just removing the easy difficulty.

@Giralda thanks for mod I'll look at it again another day!

How to give 2 kudosus to you guys :S

Giralda wrote:

Hi, M4M

[General]
Follow kajiyatta's offset for 2443. Seems acceptable. To confirm, you should consider going to #modreqs and ask for a timing request.
In Song Setup, go to Design tab, uncheck widescreen support and letterbox during breaks. FIXED

[Easy]
Just like what kajiyatta said, always use distance snap for Easy and Normal difficulties. This is because new players cannot read/play inconsistent spacing.
Try to reduce the hitsound volume a little bit more. They seem to be too loud for me, and soft-claps don't fit well with the music. FIXED
For Easy difficulties, map on only white ticks. The reason most of the notes are on red ticks is mostly due to incorrect offset. Use 1/1 measure to enforce the white tick rule for yourself.
01:21:092 (1) - add finish
01:35:281 (8,9) - does not fit the rhythm
02:02:444 (1) - remove NC
02:24:335 (4,5) - snap it and make a triangle pattern
02:25:957 (6) - stack with 02:23:525 (3)
02:26:768 (1) - add finish
02:33:254 (1,2,3) - make a triangle patter w/ distance snap
04:10:551 (1) - add finish to slider head
04:35:687 (3) - new players will not be able to read that many repeats. maybe try reducing the repeat to 1, or just make it a 1/1 slider with no repeats to match the longer vocals.

Try to add more sliders in the lower difficulties. They are much easier for new players. General rule is that Sliders > Circles in Easy and Normal.
Got rid of easy diff. Its okay to have just normal hard insane right?

[Normal]
Refer to Easy for things to fix in Normal as well. Distance snap, following rhythm, etc. FIXED
For Normal, it is acceptable to map on red ticks, but don't map on blue ticks unless the music requires you to do so.
Avoid stacking a lot of notes. New players will have trouble reading it. FIXED MOST
00:15:011 (7) - not to rhythm FIXED
00:48:660 (2) - maybe make this to a one repeat, and one note at 00:48:660 (2) - FIXED
01:15:619 (8) - add circle FIXED
01:32:443 (9) - one repeat, note at end of slider. FIXED
01:26:362 (1) - Remove finish FIXED
01:34:876 (2) - remove finish from slider head, add it on 01:34:673 (1) FIXED
01:39:335 (2) - remove finish FIXED
01:40:957 (4) - add finish FIXED
01:42:984 (8) - remove finish FIXED
02:01:227 (2) - remove finish FIXED
03:46:227 (2) - move back two ticks left FIXED
03:47:139 (3) - move back three ticks left FIXED
03:47:849 (4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6) - move the entire section two ticks left to match rhythm better I think I fixed most of this section up
03:54:133 (5) - remove finish FIXED
03:58:187 (3,4,5,6) - move two ticks back as well FIXED
04:07:916 (4) - sv change not really needed FIXED

[Hard]
Circle Size 4, AR 7, HP 6. FIXED
00:18:153 (4) - the triplet imo isn't really needed so I would remove this. FIXED
you should lay low on some of the triplets...a lot of them make it feel like overmapping and don't fit the song well. FIXED MOST
02:26:565 (6) - remove finish from overall slider, just leave the one at slider end FIXED
04:22:511 - missing note here FIXED
02:17:849 (8,9,10) - make same spacing FIXED
04:04:065 (1) - manipulating slider speed with red node/anchors are unrankable. Please change the slider to make it readable. Refer to t/158947. FIXED

[Insane]
try to not break the flow. there are a lot of instances where you have unmapped areas that could be mapped very nicely and wouldn't break the flow of the map. you should also space out your streams a little to match your sv. i suggest using 0.8x distance spacing for the streams
00:20:889 (7) - its too far away, move this to form a square with 00:20:281 (4,5,6) and then move 00:21:092 (8) - to form a triangle pattern with 00:20:687 (6,7) FIXED
01:22:308 (8) - this slider sounds off. FIXED
01:21:700 (6) - add finish to slider end FIXED
01:28:389 (1) - add finish FIXED
01:41:362 (4) - add finish FIXED
03:17:849 (1,1) - make it to one spinner. FIXED

Yeah, there are a lot more things to point out. Feel free to message me in-game if you have any questions. If you want, I can do a recheck for you after you feel the map has improved. Your modding isn't bad though, but I strongly suggest you look at some of your favorite maps and study the different types of mapping styles. Additionally, modding more will give you different ideas for your map can help you build the foundation for your mapping style. Good luck and don't give up!

THANKS FOR MOD
Updated map. Changed quite a bit from before I think

Trick or Treat~
Thanks for M4M

[General]

1. Tags suggetion
   "Gumi"
2. I suggest to add "soft-sliderslide.wav" of silence
3. Why did you delete easy-diff? I prefer to add it

[Normal]

1. For Normal-diff, you should uniform DS(DistanceSpacing) as much as possible. for example, 00:04:672 (4,5) - is not good
2. 00:03:051~00:25:551- I feel difficult. how about reducing 1/2 beat (notes on red line) more?
3. 00:28:794 (1) - not suit to melody. for example, how about the following?
   
4. 00:43:186 (1) - move to 00:42:983
5. 00:46:226 (6) - NC(New Combo). You should add NC per bar. please check other part,too
6. 01:33:051 (10) - For -Normal-diff, 10combo is too long. you should add NC some where
7. 03:17:848 (1) - end at 03:21:902
8. 03:49:064 (8) - reverse is too many. it is better to divide

[Hard]

1. 00:19:470 (7,2) - avoid overlap
2. 00:19:672 (1,3) - stack correctly
3. 00:25:956 (8) - I prefer to divide into 2 sliders
4. 00:47:848 (6,8) - avoid overlap
5. 01:14:605 (9,10) - DS should be 1.2x
6. 01:22:510 (1,2,3,4,5) - your symmetric shape is good! As any other idea, how about star-pattern?
   
   SPOILER

   
   

   178,109,82510,5,2,0:0:0:0:
   333,109,82713,1,2,0:0:0:0:
   208,200,82915,1,2,0:0:0:0:
   256,53,83118,1,2,0:0:0:0:
   304,200,83321,1,2,0:0:0:0:

7. 01:32:037 (1) - start at 01:32:442 and add a note at 01:32:037
8. 01:44:807 (1) - 01:44:605 ~ 01:47:442
9. 02:18:253 (6,7,8) - DS is too short
10. 02:23:726 (3,5) - avoid overlap
11. 02:50:584 (1) - start at 02:50:888 and add a note at 02:50:686
12. 03:53:524 (10,1) - avoid overlap
13. 04:38:017 (1) - 04:38:118 ~ 04:39:740

[Insane]

1. 00:06:091 (6,7,8,9,10) - not good. stack correctly or displace in one direction
2. 00:49:470- add a note and finish
3. 01:46:328 (1) - end at 01:47:848
4. 02:08:118 (4) - curve more and blanket correctly
   
   SPOILER

   
5. 02:17:645 (1,2,3) - it is better to uniform DS and make regular triangle (try to use Ctrl+Shift+D)
   
   SPOILER

   
   

   205,267,137645,5,2,0:0:0:0:
   370,128,138051,1,2,0:0:0:0:
   407,340,138456,1,2,0:0:0:0:
   311,340,138659,2,0,P|359:256|447:252,2,180

6. 02:22:510 (5,6,7) - same above
7. 02:51:091 (1) - end at 02:52:307
8. 03:01:428 (7) - Object isn't snapped!
9. 03:50:078 (8) - same as 02:08:118 (4) -
10. 04:00:010 (1,2,3,4,5) - it looks awkward.

check again kajiyatta's mod. many important point for you
~Good Luck~

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