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Topic Starter
so let's take backstep's into group #5Chewin wrote:
Sorry, I can't try this round <.< I will try next time..
and round #1 is started, don't post more requests atm
Oh... I have some question >.<'
Mod all map in my group or choose 1 map to mod it ?
Mod all map in my group or choose 1 map to mod it ?
Topic Starter
need to mod all other maps in your group before deadline, good luckbackstep wrote:
Oh... I have some question >.<'
Mod all map in my group or choose 1 map to mod it ?
what if i'm already mod one of my group's map long time ago? should i mod it again? \:D/
Good Question.Envi wrote:
what if i'm already mod one of my group's map long time ago? should i mod it again? \:D/
Topic Starter
you can do a re-mod if you want \:D/Envi wrote:
what if i'm already mod one of my group's map long time ago? should i mod it again? \:D/
It'll be rather interesting if some talented mappers participate in (espcially when they are n same group)
wcx19911123 wrote:
round #1
deadline is 3rd june or later, now open 32 slots!
anyone who has any questions, feel free to post here
3rd june on which area? (Like GMT+9 or whatsoever)
like, I've posted THIS POST on may 28th, 1:12 PM, but i'm preety sure it's gonna be early morning or even yesterday on western countries..
Topic Starter
here is GMT+8, but I think this is fine, cuz I didn't say 20:00 or 12:00 on that day, 3rd the whole day is the deadlinehaha5957 wrote:
3rd june on which area? (Like GMT+9 or whatsoever)
like, I've posted THIS POST on may 28th, 1:12 PM, but i'm preety sure it's gonna be early morning or even yesterday on western countries..
also I fixed a map link for Katty Pie, pay attention to this, members in group #8
Now I understand. I'll surely be participating in the next round.wcx19911123 wrote:
need to mod all other maps in your group before deadline, good luckbackstep wrote:
Oh... I have some question >.<'
Mod all map in my group or choose 1 map to mod it ?
lol i think i want to quit >A</
Topic Starter
it's my fault that I didn't think about how to do when somebody want to quit..-Sekai- wrote:
lol i think i want to quit >A</
I hope you can do a m4m for the members who modded your map before you quit
and now there is still 1 slot
It's not your fault, wcx. People who participated in should do from start to end. If you permit to quit easily, other participants will be given trouble.
Can I replace -Sekai-? D:
0.0 dunno if it was allowed or not, but since there isn't any mod that i received from her, i guess it was ok.
Topic Starter
I'm just kinda worry about that it may makes the other members annoying if someone quit after his map is modded by the other ones. but seems Envi is ok with this, and the other 2 didn't mod your map, so I think you, Philippines, can join to this round instead of -Sekai-
uh.. then which map you want to post here o.o?
uh.. then which map you want to post here o.o?
and here's some question.
Imma already mod -Sekai-'s map, and she's quitted this after i'm mod her map.
then, if philippines replace her, should i mod his map too? then i must mod 4 mod overall then O:
except if -Sekai-'s also give a vote to my mod/map and then quit from this round, then i think it still can be considered
Imma already mod -Sekai-'s map, and she's quitted this after i'm mod her map.
then, if philippines replace her, should i mod his map too? then i must mod 4 mod overall then O:
except if -Sekai-'s also give a vote to my mod/map and then quit from this round, then i think it still can be considered
Topic Starter
this seems also fine, I'll connect with -Sekai- about the idea
Katty Pie's map from my group has been bubbled, what should I do? Mod it anyways? o.O Please tell me?
Mercurial
Snepif wrote:
Katty Pie's map from my group has been bubbled, what should I do? Mod it anyways? o.O Please tell me?
^wcx19911123 wrote:
[*]every group member need to mod other members' maps(the maps in the same group of you) before the deadline(so if you post a bubbled map, it may be popped after others' mods)
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Things turned out different than planned. I had to delete my mod. See? It wasn't so obvious after all.iMercurial wrote:
Snepif wrote:
Katty Pie's map from my group has been bubbled, what should I do? Mod it anyways? o.O Please tell me?^wcx19911123 wrote:
[*]every group member need to mod other members' maps(the maps in the same group of you) before the deadline(so if you post a bubbled map, it may be popped after others' mods)
I modded her map, she told me that she was leaving the competition, and that I had to delete my mod because she was tired and wanted her map to get ranked. So, no, I dont have to, at least not hers.
Topic Starter
since there are some people want to quit this round, I temporarily added some rules about this
challenge will be go on when only 1 member quit from a group, it will stop when 2 or more members quit
also the deadline is coming soon, pay attention to this
challenge will be go on when only 1 member quit from a group, it will stop when 2 or more members quit
also the deadline is coming soon, pay attention to this
Thanks for the information.
I'm very sorry If I can't join now. I'm about to go on Hiatus in a few days.
Cool rules, I may have a try next round if I have a finished map.
Some points I want to ask...
Some points I want to ask...
*What if someone gives others low score? (Just because he is strict)
*If a group has only three members, they'll only have to mod 2 maps, and they may have more chance(1/3) to get mod than other groups' members (1/4). Is that OK?
*Also I'm not sure about bubbled map...
Topic Starter
nice questions o.o
* for avoiding this happen, I'll take a look at all scores and when I found someone vote very low scores to others, I'll put him into a blacklist
* we can't stop anyone when he want to quit, right? besides this, I think the difference between 1/4 and 1/3 is not too big (but 1/2 is much different from 1/4, so it'll stop when 2 or more people quit form 1 group)
* we also have many BATs in this queue :3
* for avoiding this happen, I'll take a look at all scores and when I found someone vote very low scores to others, I'll put him into a blacklist
* we can't stop anyone when he want to quit, right? besides this, I think the difference between 1/4 and 1/3 is not too big (but 1/2 is much different from 1/4, so it'll stop when 2 or more people quit form 1 group)
* we also have many BATs in this queue :3
Well, the rules are simple and understandable. If someone participated, I don't know why he/she leave soon after the round is started. o.o I also wanted to participate, but I decided to wait until the 2nd round.
Hey guys, i think it is a normal circumstances if a player quit in a game (even a significant game). The opponent will get through easily, but that will not lead to any unfairness.
I disagree. Rules are very clear from now on, and there shouldn't be big problems. It happened to be confusing before because of the leavers and all that but now we all know what to do~~iMercurial wrote:
This queue is out of control, and is very confusing.
Also, this queue isn't just a MAT/BAT queue, remember you also get 3 m4m's, which are supposed to be very useful because everyone will give his/her best in order to win.
Yes, this queue means, try to do 3 m4m（s）, and if your map is good enough, you will get a mod from MAT/BAT. lol
Also, will it open again when dead line comes or later? :3
Edit: I hope you can keep this rule next round :3
Also, will it open again when dead line comes or later? :3
Edit: I hope you can keep this rule next round :3
Good modding also counts. Not just Good Mapping, but I know what you mean.
...and yes, techically this is a triple m4m queue (plus a mod from a MAT or a BAT if you win the round).
...and yes, techically this is a triple m4m queue (plus a mod from a MAT or a BAT if you win the round).
how about if the participant doesn't give any mod at the end but he's not saying that he is quitting from the challenge?
Envi wrote:
how about if the participant doesn't give any mod at the end but he's not saying that he is quitting from the challenge?
if anyone can't finish modding before deadline, he'll lost the corresponding modding scorejust lose modding point I think
wcx19911123 wrote:
谁乱打分就bl
Giving a bad scores is a right to partcipant. But be sure give any valid reason why you give him/her a bad scores. Be reasonable >.<wcx19911123 wrote:
* for avoiding this happen, I'll take a look at all scores and when I found someone vote very low scores to others, I'll put him into a blacklist
Topic Starter
things are going on well now, pay attention that round #1 will be finished in 24 hours, I'll give the result at that time. just saying here
a little prediction here: group #1, #5 is finished
a little prediction here: group #1, #5 is finished
Wcx, if other people send score to you , I think it must have reason why do you give this score to other people?
Because it's prevent someone give very low score and put into your blacklist ;w;
Because it's prevent someone give very low score and put into your blacklist ;w;
Topic Starter
I'll show the result with the scores information later, we all can inspect this
Topic Starter
so, it's closed nowwcx19911123 wrote:
things are going on well now, pay attention that round #1 will be finished in 24 hours, I'll give the result at that time. just saying here
a little prediction here: group #1, #5 is finished
the result will come out soon
I think for the next round it is better to have 2 types of groups.
New modders and Experienced modders. Because A group consisting of 1 Experienced modder and 3 other New modders isn't really balanced at all.
New modders and Experienced modders. Because A group consisting of 1 Experienced modder and 3 other New modders isn't really balanced at all.
Topic Starter
Result
group #1
Snowy Dream 70+85+85=240 will mod by Nymph
Real 65+80+70=215
Strawberry 70+45+80=195
raririn 65+50+75=190
Real 65+80+70=215
Strawberry 70+45+80=195
raririn 65+50+75=190
group #2
bossandy 72+70+45=187
DarkDunskin 58+70+40=168
popner 70+70+55=195 will mod by Garven
Gloria Guard 55+35+40=130
DarkDunskin 58+70+40=168
popner 70+70+55=195 will mod by Garven
Gloria Guard 55+35+40=130
group #3
-Sekai-
Envi
Midasmens
haha5957
this group is dead since 1 member quit and another member's map got ranked before deadline
Envi
Midasmens
haha5957
this group is dead since 1 member quit and another member's map got ranked before deadline
group #4
Dark Fang 60+51+40=151
shikyu 66+48+55=169
-Chata- 77+75+60=212
merchat7 65+85+70=220 will mod by osuplayer111
shikyu 66+48+55=169
-Chata- 77+75+60=212
merchat7 65+85+70=220 will mod by osuplayer111
group #5
backstep 85+86+84=255 will mod by Miya
a3272509123 70+82+74=226
mjw5150 67+70+84=221
IchiGUN 70+80+74=224
a3272509123 70+82+74=226
mjw5150 67+70+84=221
IchiGUN 70+80+74=224
group #7
Yasora 90+75+65=230 will mod by NoHitter
BeatofIke 40+65+60=165
Frostmourne 60+80+75=215
Guy 40+60+60=160
BeatofIke 40+65+60=165
Frostmourne 60+80+75=215
Guy 40+60+60=160
group #8
remy11
Katty Pie
Snepif
Kogure
plz send me your votes assp if you didn't send it to me. also if someone hadn't mod your map, then you need to vote 0 for his mod
Katty Pie
Snepif
Kogure
plz send me your votes assp if you didn't send it to me. also if someone hadn't mod your map, then you need to vote 0 for his mod
people's name with his map link is winner, in gray is quit, the scores after name is the votes from others, the score after equal sign is overall score
the detailed scores information is here
congrats to the winners! and we need to start modding now o.o/
to the members in group #6, #8: plz send me your votes assp if you didn't send it to me. also if someone hadn't mod your map before deadline, then you need to vote 0 for his mod
anyone has any questions, feel free to post here
In this challenge there are 6 MAT's and 4 BAT's . . . you write "each group has 1 winner to earn the mod, so there'll be 8 winners", but in group #3 - there is no winner o.o I'm right? So...in this round, the winners will be 7 people? Maybe need to use all MAT's and BAT's...and find another 3 winners? :3
"Special slots" I think
"Special slots" I think
I don't think it makes sense how group #3 is dead
Envi's map basically received only one mod from me, while he modded other 3 maps.
It's not his fault how sekai quit in all of sudden and how my map got ranked.
I don't think I can be happy if Envi couldn't get his mod just because my map got ranked.
I'm preety sure he would be extremely unhappy too about how he couldn't get his mod just because his groupmates somehow "sucked" as a groupmate for the queue.
Since other member didn't do his mod, it's like 99% that Envi would have won the challenge.
this challenge queue has like 9 MAT/BATs here. why not just give him some kind of mod?
Envi's map basically received only one mod from me, while he modded other 3 maps.
It's not his fault how sekai quit in all of sudden and how my map got ranked.
I don't think I can be happy if Envi couldn't get his mod just because my map got ranked.
I'm preety sure he would be extremely unhappy too about how he couldn't get his mod just because his groupmates somehow "sucked" as a groupmate for the queue.
Since other member didn't do his mod, it's like 99% that Envi would have won the challenge.
this challenge queue has like 9 MAT/BATs here. why not just give him some kind of mod?
我只是想抗議一下
如果有下次有一樣的Challenge 加入的圖可不可以只加沒有bubbled的圖呢
( 如果加入後bubbled的 必須強制退出 這樣比較合理 不然就只繪變成一個Rank queue 因為mod不出東西所以mod被評低分 )
bubbled的圖表示已經ready for rank 我們其他member如果要mod
也只能大部分都Nazi 但是Nazi的通常都會說沒差多少 然後就沒改
這樣子等於其他member只能靠map取分 有點不公平
就差8分 如果還沒bubbled可能還mod出些東西 QAQ
如果有下次有一樣的Challenge 加入的圖可不可以只加沒有bubbled的圖呢
( 如果加入後bubbled的 必須強制退出 這樣比較合理 不然就只繪變成一個Rank queue 因為mod不出東西所以mod被評低分 )
bubbled的圖表示已經ready for rank 我們其他member如果要mod
也只能大部分都Nazi 但是Nazi的通常都會說沒差多少 然後就沒改
這樣子等於其他member只能靠map取分 有點不公平
因为已经bubble了，所以我给mod打分时根本没有看改了多少，前边那个一堆finish的mod我也给了很高分我只是想说明那个45不是我打的bossandy wrote:
我只是想抗議一下
如果有下次有一樣的Challenge 加入的圖可不可以只加沒有bubbled的圖呢
( 如果加入後bubbled的 必須強制退出 這樣比較合理 不然就只繪變成一個Rank queue 因為mod不出東西所以mod被評低分 )
bubbled的圖表示已經ready for rank 我們其他member如果要mod
也只能大部分都Nazi 但是Nazi的通常都會說沒差多少 然後就沒改
這樣子等於其他member只能靠map取分 有點不公平就差8分 如果還沒bubbled可能還mod出些東西 QAQ
就结果来看我给你们打的分都是你们得分中比较高的，所以没有因为mod泡图给低分的情况..
因为这个queue中也有BAT，所以泡图当然也有参赛权利。。
那就代表有人亂打分了?popner wrote:
因为已经bubble了，所以我给mod打分时根本没有看改了多少，前边那个一堆finish的mod我也给了很高分我只是想说明那个45不是我打的
就结果来看我给你们打的分都是你们得分中比较高的，所以没有因为mod泡图给低分的情况..
這queue是Challenge queue 不代表每個BAT/MAT都需要在每個Challenge mod圖
Topic Starter
I'm sorry that I didn't think any rules for the bubbled maps or someone want to quit ;__;
I'll complete the rules next round
I'll complete the rules next round
dunno what will you do after this round, but for the next round, i hope you're already anticipated for some cases that happens on our group (3), kinda suck if our group don't get anything in the end when at the same time, some member of our group/we're already do almost half of the challenge process (well, i think not even half of it).
gimme a compensation since i'm already did 80% of the requirement!! \o/ "cry at the corner"
gimme a compensation since i'm already did 80% of the requirement!! \o/ "cry at the corner"
wcx19911123 wrote:
I'm sorry that I didn't think any rules for the bubbled maps or someone want to quit ;__;
I'll complete the rules next round
I would like to strongly suggest that the queue should give some kind of penalty to someone who quitted for not good enough reason.
Imagine someone gets into the queue and does nothing. he/she gets free 3 hard-worked mods while he/she does nothing.
Also my map wasn't bubbled at the moment I applied to this queue.. just saying here 'o'/
That 's fairwcx19911123 wrote:
Result
Strawberry 70+45+80=195
raririn 65+50+75=190
(另外我很支持andy老大的观点
比起分数来是不是换成“排序”会公平，直接说123。
另外有人quit的话，竞争变小现在看来也许也是可取的？
@popner, Ijust thought of something new, may talk to wcx later……
另外有人quit的话，竞争变小现在看来也许也是可取的？
@popner, Ijust thought of something new, may talk to wcx later……
I have recommended the '1 0 0' vote and '1 2 3' vote a week ago. They will work better, but have their own defect. Maybe there is a better rule. In fact, vote to elect 1 from 4 is an unsolved question. So the completely fair rule is nonexistent.
For the next round, i suggest all of the partcipant must give a reason in giving a score to someone. So, people can be understand why they got score like that. It can clear any of missunderstanding too.
I hope the next turn will start soon. :3
Similar me ;w;Miya wrote:
For the next round, i suggest all of the partcipant must give a reason in giving a score to someone. So, people can be understand why they got score like that. It can clear any of missunderstanding too.
Miya-chan.
My scores are mostly based on effort on mapping and modding.
50% scores based in effort in modding/mapping.
20% Modding score.
20% Mapping score.
10% Subjective. (Whether I like the map or not.)
50% scores based in effort in modding/mapping.
20% Modding score.
20% Mapping score.
10% Subjective. (Whether I like the map or not.)
Result
Frostmourne's Mod Score: 35
Frostmourne's Map Score: 45
Frostmourne's Total Score: 80
Yasora's Mod score: 40
Yasora's Map score: 50
Yasora's Total score: 90
Guy's Mod score: 25
Guy's Map score: 35
Guy's Total score: 60
Frostmourne's Map Score: 45
Frostmourne's Total Score: 80
Yasora's Mod score: 40
Yasora's Map score: 50
Yasora's Total score: 90
Guy's Mod score: 25
Guy's Map score: 35
Guy's Total score: 60
Beat, you need to send your scores on a forum PM to wcx.
From now on, I suggest adding a blacklist for people who quit/don't mod/etc?
From now on, I suggest adding a blacklist for people who quit/don't mod/etc?
I did. Unless it wouldn't have been on Group #7's results.Snepif wrote:
Beat, you need to send your scores on a forum PM to wcx.
From now on, I suggest adding a blacklist for people who quit/don't mod/etc?
Topic Starter
here is the detailed scores information
and thanks for your support, I'll make the rules better in the next round
also, welcome to pm me or post here with your good ideas about the queue
and thanks for your support, I'll make the rules better in the next round
also, welcome to pm me or post here with your good ideas about the queue
看到了...但是我們這group的分數 感覺有人故意打低分...wcx19911123 wrote:
here is the detailed scores information
and thanks for your support, I'll make the rules better in the next round
also, welcome to pm me or post here with your good ideas about the queue
你應該檢查下member's mod跟map來看他有無亂打分數...
UNFAIR
我們的D's voting比其他的都來的低
亂打的BL
i think the participant should be divided randomly for equality
Topic Starter
I put them in a group depends on the post sequence in this round. I think this is fine because they'll know which group he'll join when they post
or shall we grouping randomly?
or shall we grouping randomly?
group them by kd and maps rankedwcx19911123 wrote:
I put them in a group depends on the post sequence in this round. I think this is fine because they'll know which group he'll join when they post
or shall we grouping randomly?
if some participants in a body join this queue, they can easily control the score in the group
Sieg's idea sounds great to me
Sieg's idea sounds great to me
Not a good idea imo. How about you guys check first what kind of maps they have and group them by the quality of their map?wcx19911123 wrote:
shall we grouping randomly?
自從我看到這種比賽方法我就發現這問題bossandy wrote:
看到了...但是我們這group的分數 感覺有人故意打低分...我不覺得我的map能只到25或20分 這種亂打分數的該死 他沒打分的話 我就嬴了
你應該檢查下member's mod跟map來看他有無亂打分數...
UNFAIR
我們的D's voting比其他的都來的低
亂打的BL
打從一開始就是不公平的
評分是個很主觀的認定
像是我發現有人評5分，0分什麼的，道理何在？
讓參賽者本身擁有評分自主權，原本就是個錯誤
還有
而且中途出現的問題(像是有誰突然退出隊伍)
就該事先預想好這種情況的發生並訂定處理對策
而不是貿然舉辦比賽之後之後才處理
我認為這次辦事欠妥，也缺乏公正性
EDIT : 雖然這麼說，但我覺得辦這樣比賽，想法很好
推動大家m4m，互助和競爭的精神
儘管結果和過程有點不如意
希望下次能辦得更好 (像是評分交給裁判什麼的)
有機會我也來參與一下
D.N.A
DarknessAngel wrote:
自從我看到這種比賽方法我就發現這問題bossandy wrote:
看到了...但是我們這group的分數 感覺有人故意打低分...我不覺得我的map能只到25或20分 這種亂打分數的該死 他沒打分的話 我就嬴了
你應該檢查下member's mod跟map來看他有無亂打分數...
UNFAIR
我們的D's voting比其他的都來的低
亂打的BL
打從一開始就是不公平的
評分是個很主觀的認定
像是我發現有人評5分，0分什麼的，道理何在？
讓參賽者本身擁有評分自主權，原本就是個錯誤
還有
而且中途出現的問題(像是有誰突然退出隊伍)
就該事先預想好這種情況的發生並訂定處理對策
而不是貿然舉辦比賽之後之後才處理
我認為這次辦事欠妥，也沒公正性
这次本身就是试运行 估计肯定要改的
然后关于谁打巨低的分 这个都是人来看的 一看就能看出是否恶意打分 恶意的直接出去了
rickyboi wrote:
Not a good idea imo. How about you guys check first what kind of maps they have and group them by the quality of their map?
Both is sounds good.Sieg wrote:
group them by kd and maps ranked
但是關於有些很低的分數也是有原因的 你要自己看看被打低分的mod或mapDarknessAngel wrote:
自從我看到這種比賽方法我就發現這問題
打從一開始就是不公平的
評分是個很主觀的認定
像是我發現有人評5分，0分什麼的，道理何在？
讓參賽者本身擁有評分自主權，原本就是個錯誤
還有
而且中途出現的問題(像是有誰突然退出隊伍)
就該事先預想好這種情況的發生並訂定處理對策
而不是貿然舉辦比賽之後之後才處理
我認為這次辦事欠妥，也缺乏公正性
EDIT : 雖然這麼說，但我覺得辦這樣比賽，想法很好
推動大家m4m，互助和競爭的精神
儘管結果和過程有點不如意
希望下次能辦得更好 (像是評分交給裁判什麼的)
有機會我也來參與一下
才能明顯知道是否亂打分 我覺得打那個5分跟0分是情有可原的 ( 因為根本沒幫助到什麼 )
我那只是做個舉例bossandy wrote:
但是關於有些很低的分數也是有原因的 你要自己看看被打低分的mod或map
才能明顯知道是否亂打分 我覺得打那個5分跟0分是情有可原的 ( 因為根本沒幫助到什麼 )但是他喵的那個人打mod分跟map分明顯惡意評分 快把他BL Damn...
評分標準沒有訂定
僅僅要求參賽者"評分"
每個人都有自己的主觀認定，評分什麼的肯定有差距
主要是這點有疑問呢
So we still don't know who won on my group cuz remy didn't vote .-.? sigh.. omfg destiny definitely doesn't want my map to get ranked LOL it's been almost 2 years...
嗯 了解DarknessAngel wrote:
我那只是做個舉例
評分標準沒有訂定
僅僅要求參賽者"評分"
每個人都有自己的主觀認定，評分什麼的肯定有差距
主要是這點有疑問呢
我覺得這Challenge已經很好了 應該不用再多Challenge 只要把一些特殊狀況的應付對策列出來就好
以下是我的idea
Boss' idea
- 這裡有6個MAT跟4個BAT 所以開10個Groups
- 每個Group由一位MAT/BAT擔任評審
- Member看要幾個人 最好別太多也別太少 3~5即可 ( 但是還是建議少一點像3人 因為有時間限制 有的人還是Student 要抽出時間Mod顯的蠻困難的 )
- 成員互相mod ( 也就是M4M )
- Mod完成讓Group的MAT/BAT知道你mod完了 然後給你的Mod+Map評分 ( 評分完直接post在這個queue 讓他們知道自己的分數如何 )
- 評分方法由當那個Group's的評審以他的方式評分
- 得分最高者得到MAT/BAT的Ticket一張! 可以用在其他map上
- 中途離開的成員 請找其他方法補償其他Members' Mod ( 像是給個Star 或私下跟其他Member道歉 只要Member能接受就ok了 如果事後如果沒有任何處理 加進Blacklist )
- 無法完成mod的成員 MAT也會給你的Map評分 但是會少了mod的分數 也就是說要拿高分的機會相對減低 就算你還是當最高分的人 也必須在Challenge結束後補完mod 因為是M4M
- MAT的Group僅接受No bubbled的Map 中途Bubbled必須強制退出 Because of this 其他Member就不必須mod了
- BAT的Group僅接受Bubbled map , No map for App
當然中途Ranked必須離開<<<廢話 會說不接受App 是因為App通常難度都很少 且擺的Random 比較難讓人mod - 最重要的 : MAT/BAT 要把圖 Bubbled/Ranked 是依照他們想做的去做 如果不Bubbled/Ranked 我們也不能強求 ( 說實在的 這queue就是單純的M4M queue 能拿到MAT/BAT算是額外的收穫 xDD )
Edit : - MAT/BAT不能挑戰 因為大部分的MAT/BAT都實力堅強 平常的modder贏不過
- 限制時間內務必包含星期六跟日 因為蠻多人都只有假日有空
大概就這樣了 如果有地方覺得有問題或不完全 可以直接post在這 >_<
Who can help to Translated this post into English ? D:
Google.
too many mistakes. o.oKurisuchianu wrote:
Google.
All I see is
Aadsf7836472647333fdafasfarandomrandomrandom BAT TICKET adfuvhuahsudhfudsf MODDER dadffjjjjgh33476
no offense, I just find it so hard to understeand D: but i like it!
Aadsf7836472647333fdafasfarandomrandomrandom BAT TICKET adfuvhuahsudhfudsf MODDER dadffjjjjgh33476
no offense, I just find it so hard to understeand D: but i like it!
Hi, I try to translate bossandy' statements, so everyone can know what he's trying to say
Blue is my translations and the Chinese version I just quote from his post
Purple is my personal thoughts
I hope I got all his meaning right, please let me know if there's a better way to translate (and typos)
Brown is the one that has been fixed
I tried my best.
I hope you guys understand ;w;
To bossandy: 如果有些意思錯的話請告知我，謝謝
EDIT:
I just found that I forgot to translate one of the statements, TRANSLATED !
Blue is my translations and the Chinese version I just quote from his post
Purple is my personal thoughts
I hope I got all his meaning right, please let me know if there's a better way to translate (and typos)
Brown is the one that has been fixed
That was long Orzbossandy wrote:
Boss' idea
- 這裡有6個MAT跟4個BAT 所以開10個Groups
Since there are 6 MATs and 4 BATs, so open 10 groups- 每個Group由一位MAT/BAT擔任評審
Each group has one MAT/BAT as a judge- Member看要幾個人 最好別太多也別太少 3~5即可 ( 但是還是建議少一點像3人 因為有時間限制 有的人還是Student 要抽出時間Mod顯的蠻困難的 )
Each group has 3 ~ 5 members (Preferably 3 people because there is a time limit and some of them are still students, so it is difficult for them to have time to mod)- 成員互相mod ( 也就是M4M )
Each member do Mod for Mod for other members in the same group- Mod完成讓Group的MAT/BAT知道你mod完了 然後給你的Mod+Map評分 ( 評分完直接post在這個queue 讓他們知道自己的分數如何 )
Please let the judge knows after you have done your mods. Then the BAT/MAT will give your map and mod a score (for each one of them). MAT/BAT must post the socre directly in this queue in order to let the members know their own score.- 評分方法由當那個Group's的評審以他的方式評分
Scoring depends on the group's judge, which means the judge will have his/her own way to score- 得分最高者得到MAT/BAT的Ticket一張! 可以用在其他map上
Person with the highest score will get a ticket from MAT/BAT, which can be used on the other map- 中途離開的成員 請找其他方法補償其他Members' Mod ( 像是給個Star 或私下跟其他Member道歉 只要Member能接受就ok了 如果事後如果沒有任何處理 加進Blacklist )
Member leaves during the challenge, he/she needs to find a way to compensate other members' mod (For example, shoot a star or apologize privately, as long as the member can accept it. If he/she does not handle it after he/she left, then add his/her name to Blacklist)- 無法完成mod的成員 MAT也會給你的Map評分 但是會少了mod的分數 也就是說要拿高分的機會相對減低 就算你還是當最高分的人 也必須在Challenge結束後補完mod 因為是M4M
Memebers that cannot finish the mod on time, MAT/BAT will still give a score for your map, but not for your mod, which means your chance to get a higher score will decrease. Even though you get the highest score in your group and you do not complete all the mods for the people in your group, you still need to finish them, because this is M4M.- MAT的Group僅接受No bubbled的Map 中途Bubbled必須強制退出 Because of this 其他Member就不必須mod了
MAT's group only accept No bubbled Maps, if the map is bubbled during the challenge, it will automatically quit and other people in the group don't have to mod it anymore- BAT的Group僅接受Bubbled map , No map for App
當然中途Ranked必須離開<<<廢話 會說不接受App 是因為App通常難度都很少 且擺的Random 比較難讓人mod
BAT's group only accept Bubbled map , No map for Appmap that is ranked within the time needs to quit too<<< No App because App usually has few diffs only and they all have random placements, which makes people hard to mod
I think he also means the pattern because App maps are usually harder than the normal ranked maps- 最重要的 : MAT/BAT 要把圖 Bubbled/Ranked 是依照他們想做的去做 如果不Bubbled/Ranked 我們也不能強求 ( 說實在的 這queue就是單純的M4M queue 能拿到MAT/BAT算是額外的收穫 xDD )
whether or not to Bubbled/Ranked maps is depending on the MAT/BAT. So, if they do not Bubble/Ranked maps, we cannot force them.
I think the sentence inside the parentheses is more likely a personal thought, so I don't feel like translating it, sorry for my laziness.
Edit :- MAT/BAT不能挑戰 因為大部分的MAT/BAT都實力堅強 平常的modder贏不過
MAT/BAT cannot join because they have more experiences than normal modders (most likely, normal modder will not win)- 限制時間內務必包含星期六跟日 因為蠻多人都只有假日有空
Challenging time period must included Saturday and Sunday because most people only idle on weekends
I tried my best.
I hope you guys understand ;w;
To bossandy: 如果有些意思錯的話請告知我，謝謝
EDIT:
I just found that I forgot to translate one of the statements, TRANSLATED !
Boss's idea sounds good. Only one small thing……wcx open this because he wants to find out good maps without checking one by one by MAT/BAT themselves, but now this queue is a competetion.
Well it doesn't matter. LOL
Well it doesn't matter. LOL
反正只要有主观性的东西就会不公平，无论评委是谁
Boss' idea ftw
I agree with Boss's idea. Its really sounds good. :3 But what if someone have a very high quality map? That means, unexperinced modder will not able to handle it, so the score will be low. o.o
Snepif wrote:
Boss' idea ftw
That's quite the problem. In my previous posts, I said that they should group the people depending on either by their modding experience or map quality.Kurokami wrote:
I agree with Boss's idea. Its really sounds good. :3 But what if someone have a very high quality map? That means, unexperinced modder will not able to handle it, so the score will be low. o.o
Okay, then I use myself for an example. I'm an unexperienced modder, but my map quality is good, thanks to a 10 pages of mod. And I think so many ppl have the similar problem.rickyboi wrote:
That's quite the problem. In my previous posts, I said that they should group the people depending on either by their modding experience or map quality.Kurokami wrote:
I agree with Boss's idea. Its really sounds good. :3 But what if someone have a very high quality map? That means, unexperinced modder will not able to handle it, so the score will be low. o.o
.-. still no votes from remy on my group. oh boy....
I think you should go to the unexperienced modders group since this queue's main purpose was M4M.Kurokami wrote:
Okay, then I use myself for an example. I'm an unexperienced modder, but my map quality is good, thanks to a 10 pages of mod. And I think so many ppl have the similar problem.
So, who won on my group then? Me or Kogure? I'm tired of this community anyway, don't feel like doing anything.. let him win I guess.. he had the highest score anyway
Ehm, I think this is closed, so don't bump it please.ThoomyyxD wrote:
https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/119457
Thanks you !