10:37 <Philippines> : hi those, can i have a mod from you? :O
10:37 <Philippines> : It's not uber, inb4 you disagree. D:
10:37 <those> : Depends.
10:38 *Philippines is listening to (jun - KIMONO PRINCESS)[http://osu.ppy.sh/s/49106]
10:38 <Philippines> : Trying to get at least one map ranked for my birthday. :O
10:42 <Philippines> : Do you think it can be bubbled now? :O
10:42 <Philippines> : ofc, after you mod it. :O
10:45 <those> : Close.
10:45 <those> : But just by playing Hard and Insane I can already find out enough points not to get this bubbled.
10:45 <those> : Let's do a quick mod here.
10:45 <Philippines> : okay okay. :O
10:45 <those> : For both Hard and Insane: remap from 01:32:268 (1) - .
10:46 <those> : You probably know why.
10:46 <Philippines> : okay. :O
10:46 <Philippines> : any other? :O
10:46 <those> : Mainly because 00:10:794 - and the absolute ending are not the same at all.
10:46 <those> : Um, of course.
10:47 <those> : What's the deal with 00:03:215 (7,8) - and
10:47 <those> : 00:05:742 (8,9) - not having the same rhythm pattern?
10:47 <those> : >Hard, by the way.
10:47 <Philippines> : i guess that's fine. :O
10:48 <those> : Then you've got 00:08:268 (8,9) -
10:48 <those> : If you really want to repeat the rhythm pattern at 00:08:268 (8,9) - then I suggest you switch the rhythm patterns around for the first two.
10:48 <those> : You'll hear that 00:03:215 (7,8) - is ascending
10:48 <those> : and 00:05:742 (8,9) - is descending
10:48 <those> : So it only makes sense that 00:08:268 (8,9) - matches the ascending pattern
10:49 <Philippines> : so should I remove those notes and replace with 1/1 beat instead?
10:49 <those> : Whatever you like to make it consistent with the music.
10:49 <Philippines> : what about adding a note on the first one?
10:50 <Philippines> : or reducing the hit sound volume on some parts?
10:50 <those> : I'm saying 00:03:215 (7,8) - and 00:08:268 (8,9) - should have the same rhythm pattern
10:50 <those> : I haven't even looked into the hitsounds yet, cuz musical patterning bothers me most.
10:51 <those> : You understand what I'm trying to say, right?
10:51 <Philippines> : yup. :O
10:51 <those> : Alright, next:
10:52 <those> : 00:15:531 (6,7,8,9,1) - these sliders should start on the downbeats.
10:52 <those> : white instead of red.
10:52 <those> : Right now you're emphasizing the wrong beat of the music.
10:53 <Philippines> : do you think moving 6 to the final combo would be better? :O
10:53 <those> : We're going to have to see how you rearrange your sliders first before I check on the positioning of the other objects.
10:54 <those> : For 00:28:952 (6,1) -
10:54 <those> : scroll to 00:28:873 - and you'll see your blanket is off.
10:54 <those> : Same with 00:44:268 (1,2) -
10:55 <those> : you'll see at 00:44:663 - .
10:55 <Philippines> : okay, i like that nazi things XD
10:55 <Philippines> : done with that
10:55 <those> : For 00:51:057 (3,4,6,7) - you're not following the four whistles, why is that?
10:56 <Philippines> : what do you mean? :O
10:56 <Philippines> : should i add whistles on those?
10:57 <those> : By whistle I'm talking about N:C1
10:57 <those> : You used four whistles on the past three phrases, so I'm just wondering why you didn't use them here.
10:58 <Philippines> : because there is no whistles needed here. :O
10:58 <those> : Like, you used them at 00:47:268 (5,6,7) - and 00:48:531 (4,5) - and 00:49:952 (3,4,5) -
10:58 <those> : And the music isn't particularly different at 00:51:057 (3,4,6,7) - .
10:58 <those> : In fact, it's building up to the climax so I would assume you'd want to press on with the hitsounds.
10:59 <Philippines> : okayokay
10:59 <Philippines> : added
11:00 <those> :
http://puu.sh/wTeI11:00 <those> : I'd move the entire lyrics a good 10-15 px down
11:00 <those> : so that it's all in the black during the break.
11:00 <Philippines> : SB editor should have a grid snap .___.
11:01 <Philippines> : but okay, i'll change that later ~
11:01 <those> : What's the source of your lyrics, by the way
11:01 <Philippines> : idk, i just got it somewhere. :O
11:02 <Philippines> : is it wrong? :O
11:03 <those> : f.png should read "I can tell my knees are feelin' weak"
11:03 <Philippines> : oh okay. :O
11:03 <those> : Actually, I'll go through the lyrics later
11:04 <those> : I'll post what I think it all should actually be.
11:04 <Philippines> : oh okay XD
11:04 <those> : 01:26:584 (3,4) - Again with the four whistles
11:05 <Philippines> : added
11:05 <those> : 01:28:478 (1) - more like this, maybe
http://puu.sh/wThF11:06 <Philippines> : what about the next sliders blanketting it?
11:07 <Philippines> : okay fixed.
11:08 <those> : I'm sure you'll know how to fix those.
11:08 <Philippines> : yeah i'm done with it XD
11:09 <those> : tag X2 and Hottest Party 3
11:10 <Philippines> : is X2 and 3 necessary?
11:10 <those> : DDRX2 is one game
11:10 <Philippines> : two letters and below
11:10 <those> : and DDR Hottest Party 3 is another game
11:10 <those> : Up to you, then, if you don't feel it's necessary.
11:10 <Philippines> : okay. :O
11:10 <those> : Onto Insane?
11:11 <Philippines> : Sure. :O
11:11 <Philippines> : btw, I only added Hottest Party
11:11 <Philippines> : since 3 and X2 is useless in search engine
11:11 <those> : 00:08:742 - throw in a circle here
11:11 <those> : since you have 00:03:215 (7,8) -
11:12 <Philippines> : added on the position of slider 7
11:12 <those> : 00:10:794 (3) - Remove the Finish here; there isn't a need for a fourth one
11:13 <Philippines> : sdone
11:13 <those> : 00:12:531 (6,7,8) - regulate spacing here.
11:13 <those> : I don't see why it's different from 00:08:899 (1,2,3) -
11:14 <those> : Then you've got 00:13:794 (11,12,13) - which is another spacing.
11:14 <Philippines> : i guess those are just fine though
11:14 <those> : It's not that is unreadable, but if you've got so many different spacings it looks untidy.
11:14 <Philippines> : i'll try use .3 DS on some
11:15 <those> : 00:14:742 (3,4,5) - these are cut to .2, at which point you might as well stack, or increase to .3
11:15 <Philippines> : just fixed them
11:17 <those> : 00:30:689 - Maybe it's because I've played the ranked version so much, but I expected a circle here.
11:17 <Philippines> : no change, i guess it's fine.
11:19 <those> : 00:36:531 (11) - Expected this to be somewhere around x:392 y:200 as a circle. In addition, the rhythm pattern here might be better like
11:19 <those> :
http://puu.sh/wToG11:19 <those> : Starting (1) on red doesn't seem too promising.
11:22 <those> : 00:44:742 (2) - should use a different slider shape instead of just copying and rotating 00:44:268 (1) - since vocals are quite a bit different.
11:22 <Philippines> : Followed the slider pattern on (1,2) but i made (3) two circles
11:22 <Philippines> : looks fine with me :O about 00:44:742 (2) -
11:23 <those> : 00:45:215 (3,4,5,6,7) - not sure if these would play better if they were 180 degree rotations instead.
11:24 <those> : Pointing it out cuz it felt awkward to play the first time
11:24 <those> : 00:50:110 (8,9,10) - make these linear?
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11:24 <those> : :O
11:24 <Philippines> : what about the overlap in (3,4,5,6,7)?
11:25 <Philippines> : define linear? lol ;_;
11:25 <those> : >straight line
11:25 <those> : 00:49:478 (2,3,4) - and 00:49:794 (5,6,7) - are straight lines
11:25 <those> : 00:50:110 (8,9,10) - is evidently not
11:26 <Philippines> : oh, move (8) one grid left.
11:26 <those> : As for 00:45:215 (3,4,5,6,7) - overlapping... I won't know what you're talking about until you try to make some changes to it
11:26 <those> : So I'll leave that til later
11:26 <those> : 00:51:847 (1) - anchor to x:360 y:336 to remove the bump that you can see
11:26 <Philippines> : decided not to change the (3,4,5,6,7) thing
11:27 <those> : er, x:320
11:27 <Philippines> : it's already in that position :O
11:27 <those> : It was x:364 y:312.
11:28 <those> : oops
11:28 <those> : I meant move to x:360 y:312
11:28 <Philippines> : oh :O
11:28 <those> : Not sure where I got that from
11:28 <Philippines> : weird overlap but looks good :O
11:28 <those> : Hold on hold on lol
11:29 <those> : Lemme backtrack, I'm getting coordinates mixed up.
11:29 <those> : 00:51:847 (1) - the slider starts at x:320 y:336.
11:29 <Philippines> : ye
11:29 <those> : Move the anchor to x:360 y:312.
11:29 <Philippines> : i can't move it.
11:30 <Philippines> : off grid. D:
11:30 <Philippines> : the slider end is off grid.
11:30 <those> : The slider end is x:488 y:304
11:30 <those> :
http://puu.sh/wTuE11:32 <Philippines> : why change the slider structure? D:
11:32 <those> : Because there's an obvious bump that makes the blanket look bad.
11:32 <Philippines> : oh okay. lemme fix this one
11:33 <Philippines> :
http://puu.sh/wTwq11:33 <those> : Sure.
11:34 <those> : 00:55:636 (1,1,1,1) - Remove NC spam. Also, nobody will be able to read that these are 3/4 sliders. They will more likely predict an sv increase.
11:34 <those> : In addition, these shouldn't be 3/4 sliders anyway; 1/2 sliders work fine here.
11:34 <Philippines> : I've already talked to Derek and some other BATs and they it was fine. :O
11:35 <Philippines> : about the new combo spam.
11:35 <Philippines> : I think (1,2,1,2) would be okay right? :O
11:35 <those> : YEah
11:35 <those> : That's better than 1,1,1,1
11:35 <Philippines> : okay, lemme change the other one
11:36 <those> : about the positioning however: 00:56:583 (1) -
http://puu.sh/wTxS11:36 <Philippines> : done
11:36 <those> : 16.71x jump
11:36 <those> : okay
11:36 <Philippines> : oh lol XD
11:36 <those> : This is why 3/4 sliders won't work here.
11:36 <Philippines> : lemme rotate the pattern
11:37 <Philippines> : bah, sure 1/2 sliders
11:37 <Philippines> : but can i increas SV?
11:37 <those> : Yes.
11:37 <Philippines> : 1/5?
11:37 <Philippines> : 1.5?
11:37 <Philippines> : x1.5?
11:37 <those> : Yeah, x1.5 should work.
11:38 <Philippines> : looks the same. great
11:38 <those> : 01:03:847 (11) - Follow the antijump pattern; music doesn't suggest any change.
11:39 <those> : 01:27:215 (10) - New combo here.
11:39 <those> : And fix 01:31:005 (1,1,1,1) - as well.
11:40 <those> : Then I trust you'll remap 01:32:268 - .
11:40 <Philippines> : keeping this 01:03:847 (11) - I guess it's fine. :O
11:41 <Philippines> : so it's done? :O
11:41 <Philippines> : what about the lyrics?
11:41 <those> : 01:03:847 (11) - why are you changing the pattern when the music doesn't suggest it?
11:41 <those> : What's your reasoning behind it?
11:42 <Philippines> : fine, anti-jump XD
11:42 <Philippines> : i just really want this ranked D: lol
11:42 <those> : Just like earlier, in Hard, 00:58:794 (9,10) - and 01:01:321 (1,1) - are ascending/descending
11:42 <those> : and 01:03:847 (11) - is ascending so you should follow it.
11:42 <those> : I mean, sure, other people might not find this to be a problem, but this makes more musical sense.
11:42 <those> : That's all for now; lyrics to follow up.
