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Shiena Nishizawa - FUBUKI [Taiko]

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snowball112
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Montag, 23. März 2015 at 01:50:23

Artist: Shiena Nishizawa
Title: FUBUKI
Source: Fleet Girls Collection KanColle Animation Sequence
Tags: ending TV Size kantai 艦隊これくしょん 艦これ
BPM: 180
Filesize: 2918kb
Play Time: 01:28
Difficulties Available:
  1. Futsuu (2.23 stars, 216 notes)
  2. Kantan (1.49 stars, 163 notes)
  3. Muzukashii (2.86 stars, 363 notes)
  4. Oni (3.76 stars, 479 notes)
Download: Shiena Nishizawa - FUBUKI
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#blametaikoratu2015
<3
Special Thanks <3
- Okoratu for showing me this song and testplaying
- Onicorn for testplaying, modding and checking offset
- gadrin for testplaying
- Ikkun for testplaying
- Sala- for a mod and a star
- JudgeTheDude for a mod
- Onicorn for a mod
- mliencheng for a mod
- EdamaMe411 for a mod
- Genocide for a mod
- -TheHateD- for a mod
- Konpaku Sariel for a mod
- Ringating for helping with the background
Zetera
Hi, you won a mod through my queue and you will also get a Kudosu star!

[Kantan]

|00:26:401 (40) - k for pattern consistency (00:15:734 (17) - , 00:21:068 (28) - ).
|00:59:401 (102,103,104,105) - I don't think the emphathised rhythm is the best to be used. I deleted the circle at 00:59:734 - and found it less confusing afterwards.
|01:27:734 - Delete this circle to have a bit less density. I think that works better, because you build up kind of a tension to the end's K. Same applies for Futsuu.

[Futsuu]

|00:17:401 (25,26,27,28,29) - I'd like to see that repeated, because otherwise this rather seems random. it would fit at 00:22:734 - .
|00:55:401 (125) - Could also be a d, I don't find any musical reason to make this a k.
|00:59:068 (136,137) - It makes little sense to put another double here. A new rhythm starts at this point. Let me give you a Suggestion.

[Muzukashii]

|00:05:401 (8) - Not sure why that should be a D. a K would fit better to previous AND following patterns (00:07:957 (6,7,11,12) - They are not exactly the same, but they apply colorwise and structurewise). Also applies for Oni.
|00:17:734 (43,44,45,46,47) - Again, you could repeatedly use this pattern (00:23:068 - ).
|Not sure if it would be better to keep 00:59:901 (71) - a d instead of a D. Musically, the finishers only make sense after that circle, but I guess it's better to play with that circle being big.. You need to decide between one of the two solutions, I guess. Also applies for Oni.
|01:27:901 (205) - ^, same in Oni.

[Oni]

|00:18:984 (61) - a d would sound better and it's better to play that pattern. Also occurs at 00:21:651 (78) - , 00:40:984 (184) - , etc. The problem is that this triple formation does not emphathise something different to what a ddk-pattern would do. So there is no reason other than variability to make that a k. And I don't think that is a good solution.
|01:07:068 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17) - I see one problem with this pattern. Well, it's not the pattern itself, but its rhythm. You can clearly hear a 1/3-vocal rhythm, but it is never followed. I can see how this works in lower diff, but I recommend using it in Oni. You don't need to follow that completely, you can also use fractions of it (Example).


I guess the rest is fine, that was not a bad set. Good Luck!
Topic Starter
snowball112

Sala- wrote:

Hi, you won a mod through my queue and you will also get a Kudosu star! Yay ^^ Thank you ^^

[Kantan]

|00:26:401 (40) - k for pattern consistency (00:15:734 (17) - , 00:21:068 (28) - ). This is paired to go with 00:25:401 (37,38,39,40,41), so I won't change it to k. I changed 00:15:734 to d instead which sounds better \o/
|00:59:401 (102,103,104,105) - I don't think the emphathised rhythm is the best to be used. I deleted the circle at 00:59:734 - and found it less confusing afterwards. True, this is a bit weird. I moved the d to 01:00:734 and added a finish to "sum up" the drumroll which feels even better to play though.
|01:27:734 - Delete this circle to have a bit less density. I think that works better, because you build up kind of a tension to the end's K. Same applies for Futsuu. You're right, this is weird. However, instead of deleting, I switched things around and made the last finisher a D so that I have a ddkkD pattern which plays out even better because I don't really want to take anything away from the buildup here. This is also the reason I had bigger spacing before so that I could end the song with a nice finishing pattern ^^

[Futsuu]

|00:17:401 (25,26,27,28,29) - I'd like to see that repeated, because otherwise this rather seems random. it would fit at 00:22:734 - . I think it wouldn't fit well because the pattern that you suggested to change is paired to go with 00:25:401 (43,44,45,46). I've tried things around a bit, but keeping this the way it is just feels better for me because of the instrument sounds.
|00:55:401 (125) - Could also be a d, I don't find any musical reason to make this a k. There is a small difference to the previous note and I think it works pretty well in terms of buildup towards the following 1/2 kd patterns.
|00:59:068 (136,137) - It makes little sense to put another double here. A new rhythm starts at this point. Let me give you a Suggestion Oops, how did that happen. Very nice idea. Fixed..

[Muzukashii]

|00:05:401 (8) - Not sure why that should be a D. a K would fit better to previous AND following patterns (00:07:957 (6,7,11,12) - They are not exactly the same, but they apply colorwise and structurewise). Also applies for Oni. I can hear a cymbal on the first finish on the song, but not here, so I think a D is better.
|00:17:734 (43,44,45,46,47) - Again, you could repeatedly use this pattern (00:23:068 - ). I like the way things are now because I mapped the k's of the kdkdk to the very high sounds in the music here as they feel a bit more dominant here.
|Not sure if it would be better to keep 00:59:901 (71) - a d instead of a D. Musically, the finishers only make sense after that circle, but I guess it's better to play with that circle being big.. You need to decide between one of the two solutions, I guess. Also applies for Oni.
|01:27:901 (205) - ^, same in Oni. I don't know. I think there is enough in the music to support these and I think it's really fun to play this way instead of having small notes, so I'll keep what I have currently.

[Oni]

|00:18:984 (61) - a d would sound better and it's better to play that pattern. Also occurs at 00:21:651 (78) - , 00:40:984 (184) - , etc. The problem is that this triple formation does not emphathise something different to what a ddk-pattern would do. So there is no reason other than variability to make that a k. And I don't think that is a good solution. I'd agree with you on this point, but only on the first occasion you have mentioned. The others feel different to me, and that is why I have mapped them that way. However, for the first one I'm not really a fan of stacking ddk triplets after each other, so no change.
|01:07:068 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17) - I see one problem with this pattern. Well, it's not the pattern itself, but its rhythm. You can clearly hear a 1/3-vocal rhythm, but it is never followed. I can see how this works in lower diff, but I recommend using it in Oni. You don't need to follow that completely, you can also use fractions of it (Example)Î see what you mean, but to me the instruments feel stronger (or at least just as strong as the vocal) to me. This is very much personal preference to not follow the vocals as I think this part works better as a buildup with 1/4 towards the following triplets. I tried around some stuff with 1/3 here, but I'm never happy with the way it turns out because I think it spoils a bit of the flow..


I guess the rest is fine, that was not a bad set. Good Luck!
Thanks for the mod ^^
JudgeTheDude
Hi, M4M

[General]
  1. Isn't "TV Size" supposed to be in the title ? Just like in this recent map https://osu.ppy.sh/s/204428 .
  2. You can delete your first Red Timing Point on all your diffs. Only the second is needed, here.
  3. Regroup your 2 Kiais in only one. This gap isn't needed and I think it's even unrankable. Also, rules say that you don't use Kiai to make those fireworks pop.

[Kantan]
  1. You can delete your first Red Timing Point. Only the second is needed, here.
  2. Regroup your 2 Kiais in only one. This gap isn't needed and I think it's even unrankable. Also, rules say that you don't use Kiai to make those fireworks pop.
  3. 00:04:068 (4,5,6) - kdk

[Futsuu]
  1. You can delete your first Red Timing Point. Only the second is needed, here.
  2. Regroup your 2 Kiais in only one. This gap isn't needed and I think it's even unrankable. Also, rules say that you don't use Kiai to make those fireworks pop.
  3. 00:04:068 (4,5,6) - kdk

[Muzukashii]
  1. You can delete your first Red Timing Point. Only the second is needed, here.
  2. Regroup your 2 Kiais in only one. This gap isn't needed and I think it's even unrankable. Also, rules say that you don't use Kiai to make those fireworks pop.
  3. 00:04:068 (5) - Why not duplicate 00:02:567 (2,3) here ?
  4. 00:06:568 - d
  5. 00:07:957 (7,12,17,24,26) - Put them on the blue ticks following them

[Oni]
  1. You can delete your first Red Timing Point. Only the second is needed, here.
  2. Regroup your 2 Kiais in only one. This gap isn't needed and I think it's even unrankable. Also, rules say that you don't use Kiai to make those fireworks pop.
  3. 00:18:984 (61) - d, this pattern feels awkward
  4. 00:21:651 (78) - ^
  5. 01:17:901 (77,87) - k (to make 2 kdddddkdk

That's all, it's a pretty good map ^^
Topic Starter
snowball112

JudgeTheDude wrote:

Hi, M4M

[General]
  1. Isn't "TV Size" supposed to be in the title ? Just like in this recent map https://osu.ppy.sh/s/204428 . I got the title from This ranked map, so it should be correct.
  2. You can delete your first Red Timing Point on all your diffs. Only the second is needed, here. Whoops. Fixed.
  3. Regroup your 2 Kiais in only one. This gap isn't needed and I think it's even unrankable. Also, rules say that you don't use Kiai to make those fireworks pop. Fixed.

[Kantan]
  1. You can delete your first Red Timing Point. Only the second is needed, here.
  2. Regroup your 2 Kiais in only one. This gap isn't needed and I think it's even unrankable. Also, rules say that you don't use Kiai to make those fireworks pop.
  3. 00:04:068 (4,5,6) - kdkNo change because I feel that the middle note has a slightly higher sound and because I want the D for emphasis on the strong instrument sound.

[Futsuu]
  1. You can delete your first Red Timing Point. Only the second is needed, here.
  2. Regroup your 2 Kiais in only one. This gap isn't needed and I think it's even unrankable. Also, rules say that you don't use Kiai to make those fireworks pop.
  3. 00:04:068 (4,5,6) - kdkSee Kantan.

[Muzukashii]
  1. You can delete your first Red Timing Point. Only the second is needed, here.
  2. Regroup your 2 Kiais in only one. This gap isn't needed and I think it's even unrankable. Also, rules say that you don't use Kiai to make those fireworks pop.
  3. 00:04:068 (5) - Why not duplicate 00:02:567 (2,3) here ? This is very much personal prefernce. I did not want to map to the vocal and I think 2/1 is fine for the intro at this point.
  4. 00:06:568 - d Similar to previous point. There is a long sound before that I like to "sum up" with the previous don and the new sound starts where I mapped the k and I don't want to follow the vocals here.
  5. 00:07:957 (7,12,17,24,26) - Put them on the blue ticks following them No change here. I listened to this at 25% and I'm very confident that these are 1/3.

[Oni]
  1. You can delete your first Red Timing Point. Only the second is needed, here.
  2. Regroup your 2 Kiais in only one. This gap isn't needed and I think it's even unrankable. Also, rules say that you don't use Kiai to make those fireworks pop.
  3. 00:18:984 (61) - d, this pattern feels awkward Fixed. Sala- pointed this out as well and you two are right. Not enough justification in the music or feel to leave this as dkk.
  4. 00:21:651 (78) - ^ ^
  5. 01:17:901 (77,87) - k (to make 2 kdddddkdkI don't think a k is necessary here because the drumroll feels the same except for the end points to me.

That's all, it's a pretty good map ^^ Yay ^^
Thanks for the mod ^^
Onicorn
Modded via Chat (Oni only)

SPOILER
21:57 Onicorn: ok chatmod
21:57 Onicorn: lets go

22:00 Onicorn: 00:15:401 (39) -
22:00 Onicorn: d
22:02 snowball112: D:
22:02 snowball112: ich find das flowt nicht so gut mit dem triple danach
22:02 snowball112: den müsste ich dann auch ändern
22:03 snowball112: ?
22:04 Onicorn: 00:39:901 (176) - d
22:04 Onicorn: also 00:39:734 (175) - k und 00:39:901 (176) - d
22:04 Onicorn: weil da 00:39:734 (175) - ne snare ist
22:04 snowball112: kannst du mir das in nen post schreiben bitte? :3
22:05 Onicorn: ok
22:05 Onicorn: aber er wird hässlich
22:05 snowball112: uh
22:05 snowball112: das passt gut
22:05 snowball112: gute idee
22:07 snowball112: oder soll ich lieber 00:14:734 (31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38) ctrl g?
22:07 snowball112: anstatt den letzten zu d zu machen
22:08 Onicorn: ja geht auch
22:08 Onicorn: oder kkkkddkdk
22:09 snowball112: dann müsste ich eigentlich 01:22:068 (101,102,103,104,105,106,107,108,109)
22:09 snowball112: auch ändern
22:10 Onicorn: wenn man es 1zu1 mappt sind beide kkkkkkkkk streams
22:10 snowball112: ich glaub ich mach vll ddddkkddk
22:11 Onicorn: odeddddkdddk
22:12 snowball112: das probier ich
22:12 snowball112: hab eben kdddkdddk
22:12 snowball112: war aber nicht so
22:12 Onicorn: oder du bist mean und machst kkkdkdddk
22:12 snowball112: oder einfach ddddddddk
22:13 snowball112: nee
22:13 snowball112: das wär nicht gut
22:13 Onicorn: der passt sogar xd
22:14 Onicorn: http://puu.sh/gtzdq/4abb29dfc0.jpg versuch das mal bei
22:14 Onicorn: 00:20:568 (74) -
22:16 snowball112: problem ist
22:16 snowball112: auf dem zweiten ist kein 1/4 in der musik
22:16 snowball112: obwohl
22:16 snowball112: wenn's nur ein don ist
22:16 snowball112: se
22:17 snowball112: nvm, hab falsch geguckt
22:17 *Onicorn is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/654999 Shiena Nishizawa - FUBUKI [Oni]]
22:17 Onicorn: finisher
22:17 Onicorn: 00:25:401 (102) -
22:17 Onicorn: 00:25:734 (103) -
22:18 Onicorn: 00:26:068 (104) - don finisher
22:18 snowball112: hm
22:18 snowball112: ich würd lieber nur k lassen für das instrument
22:19 snowball112: 01:22:068 (101,102,103,104,105,106,107,108,109) - außerdem baut das zu dem hier so schön auf
22:19 snowball112: wut
22:19 snowball112: fail
22:19 snowball112: sec
22:19 snowball112: 00:26:734 (109) -dem hier
22:20 Onicorn: wenn du drums only mappst passts
22:20 Onicorn: aber wenn du so allgemein mappst würd ich finishen
22:20 Onicorn: weil laut
22:20 snowball112: ich find es klingt besser wenn da keine sind
22:21 Onicorn: kk
22:21 snowball112: ich weiß nichtmal wie ich das gemappt habe
22:21 snowball112: irgendwie so wie's gepasst hat
22:21 snowball112: und wie's mir spaß gemacht hat
22:21 snowball112: no logic
22:21 snowball112: i dont even know why i love this song so much
22:21 snowball112: i just do
22:22 snowball112: ich glaub ich mach den ersten stream 6d+k
22:23 snowball112: 8d+k*
22:23 snowball112: un den anderen 4d5k auch
22:23 Onicorn: vllt auch so als gegensatz: http://puu.sh/gtA2S/1fbcb6ba4e.jpg
22:23 Onicorn: bei01:19:401 (89) -
22:24 snowball112: würd ich lieber nicht nur wegen des gegensatzes machen
22:24 snowball112: ich find der drumroll in der mitte ist besser in d
22:24 snowball112: als in k
22:24 snowball112: ich hab einfach das genommen was für mich am angenehmsten war
22:25 Onicorn: hm
22:25 snowball112: der letzte mod hat da auf den letzten noten kdk vorgeschlagen
22:25 snowball112: aber das gefiel mir nicht
22:25 snowball112: die map soll ja auch nicht so super schwer werden
22:25 Onicorn: ich find es sind bisschen viele don monostreams
22:25 Onicorn: also mit nur 1nem kat oder so
22:26 Onicorn: 01:00:734 -
22:26 Onicorn: 01:11:401 -
22:26 Onicorn: 01:17:401 -
22:26 Onicorn: 01:18:734 (81) -
22:27 Onicorn: 01:18:734 (81) -
22:27 snowball112: die letzten beiden haben 2 :V
22:27 Onicorn: xD
22:27 snowball112: vll mach ich nen kdkd stream
22:27 snowball112: oder vll die letzten 5 als kdkdk
22:28 Onicorn: am besten passt natürlich kdddkddkk aber das ist zu hard
22:28 snowball112: da müsste ich was innermäßiges haben
22:28 Onicorn: oder
22:28 snowball112: aber dass will ich eigentlich auch nicht
22:28 Onicorn: trioloisch
22:28 snowball112: kkkdddkkk?
22:29 Onicorn: kddkddk
22:29 Onicorn: 1/3
22:29 snowball112: nee
22:29 snowball112: auf keinen
22:29 snowball112: :D
22:29 snowball112: das ist Tabu
22:29 Onicorn: ich hasse sie auch...
22:29 snowball112: :3
22:29 Onicorn: aber das ist da nunmal so
22:29 snowball112: aber die instrumente nicht
22:29 Onicorn: ich würde auch bei 1/4 bleiben
22:29 Onicorn: dochdoch
22:29 snowball112: und die sind genauso start
22:29 snowball112: stark
22:29 Onicorn: zähl
22:29 snowball112: nein
22:30 Onicorn: ja stimmt
22:30 Onicorn: +snare spielt 1/4
22:30 Onicorn: der rest komisch
22:30 snowball112: die vocals machen da 1/3
22:30 Onicorn: der rest kommt nicht hinterher xD
22:30 snowball112: die instrumente nicht
22:31 snowball112: und ich will keine 1/3 später im song
22:31 snowball112: nur in der intro weil der abschnitt dann in sich schlüssig wirkt
22:31 Onicorn: wegen ragequit? xD
22:31 snowball112: und danach nur 1/4 for consistenten flow
22:31 snowball112: nö XD
22:31 snowball112: ich hab auch mit 1/3 rumprobiert
22:31 snowball112: vorher
22:31 snowball112: aber auch nach sala-'s mod
22:31 snowball112: aber das gefiel mir nicht
22:32 snowball112: ich hab alles auf instruments gemappt, da kann ich nicht plötzlich vocal reinhauen
22:32 snowball112: uh
22:32 snowball112: corn?
22:32 Onicorn: hm
22:32 snowball112: was machst du da Ö_ö
22:32 Onicorn: hab vorgestern mal so aus scheiss ne oni gemacht
22:32 snowball112: oha
22:33 snowball112: bestimmt n bisschen schwerer als meine :3
22:33 Onicorn: 1/3 streams ._.
22:33 snowball112: RIP
22:34 snowball112: ich glaub selbst wenn ein bisschen was verloren geht dadurch dass ich nicht 1/3 nach der intro benutze
22:34 snowball112: hab ich mehr durch den flow gewonnen
22:38 Onicorn: ich find nur ddddkkkkd ist easier than ddddddddk
22:38 snowball112: vll mach ich das einfach mit dem letzten als d
22:38 snowball112: und bau die noten drumherum ein bisschen um
22:40 snowball112: ich probier einfach ein bisschen rum vor dem nächsten mod
22:40 Onicorn: kk
Topic Starter
snowball112
Thanks to Corn for the in-game mod. Quick summary of some of the stuff we went through:

- 00:39:734 (175,176) - switched d and k here to make a k with a following dkd triplet.

- I will not use 1/3 after the intro because I feel it ruins the flow.

- Thinking about changing around the streams of 00:14:734 (31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39) and 01:22:068 (101,102,103,104,105,106,107,108,109). Suggestions on these would be greatly appreciated if you feel that something else plays out better.

- I seriously need a better background......

Thanks again Corn ^^
mliencheng
Short mod, request from forum queue


[ Kantan]

  1. At the beginning part only some stress sounds have big notes, 00:10:734 and 00:12:734(12,13) could also change to big notes
  2. 00:20:068(24,25,26) k and 00:21:401 d which is low pitch
  3. 00:31:734 d
  4. 00:42:401 d
  5. 01:11:068 delete
[ Futsuu]

  1. Seems too much consecutive 1/1s compared to kantan, you can remove some of it for appropriate breaks
[ Muzukashii]

  1. 00:12:957 remove this seems better
  2. 00:53:234 k
[ Oni]

  1. 01:17:401 this stream and 01:18:734 should change to 1/3 to follow the vocal correctly
There's so many FUBUKI these days :)
Topic Starter
snowball112
Thanks mliencheng for the mod ^^

mliencheng wrote:

Short mod, request from forum queue


[ Kantan]

  1. At the beginning part only some stress sounds have big notes, 00:10:734 and 00:12:734(12,13) could also change to big notes I'd prefer not to use finishes here, they don't feel as strong to me as the notes before.
  2. 00:20:068(24,25,26) k and 00:21:401 d which is low pitch I'm not sure about this change. I think I will maybe make this ddkdk or ddkkk instead. to go with the previous patterns.
  3. 00:31:734 d Fixed.
  4. 00:42:401 d ^
  5. 01:11:068 delete I'd like to keep this note for the buildup two the 2nd half of the kiai.


[ Futsuu]

  1. Seems too much consecutive 1/1s compared to kantan, you can remove some of it for appropriate breaks You're right. Reduced note density a bit.
[ Muzukashii]

  1. 00:12:957 remove this seems better You're right. Fixed.
  2. 00:53:234 kFixed.
[ Oni]

  1. 01:17:401 this stream and 01:18:734 should change to 1/3 to follow the vocal correctly It was my intention to follow the instruments instead of the vocals here. No change.
There's so many FUBUKI these days :)
Thanks for the mod ^^
EdamaMe411
Hi~! m4m Thank you!

General
No problem :D

Kantan
No problem :)

Futsuu
00:34:734 (69) - change ''d'',,,,,sounds better :roll:
00:37:401 (77) - ^
01:06:734 (153) - ^ ....vocal sing low voice :?

Muzukashii
00:48:068 (26) - change ''d'or''D''',,,,,sounds better :roll:
01:17:401 (154,155,156,157,158,159) - don't match 1/4 notes! I suggest change 1/3 note 8-)
01:18:734 (162,163,164,165,166,167) - ^

Oni
00:03:901 - add''k'',,,,,in order to 00:02:567 (2) - same note
00:15:401 (39) - change ''d'' ,,,,sounds better ;)
00:15:484 - add''d''......^
00:22:401 (84) - change ''k''......Order to give a sense of unity to your map 8-)
00:48:068 (35) - change’’d’’......vocal sing low voice :?
01:03:984 (119) - change''d''
01:05:901 (5) - change ''k''
01:07:068 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - cange 1/3 note!!
01:09:401 (17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28) - ^
01:17:401 (70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78) - ^
01:18:734 (80,81,82,83,84,85,86,87,88) - ^
01:22:733 (108) - change''d''
This song 3 have beat many used ;)
So 1/4 notes doesn't fit too :?

Good luck :D
Topic Starter
snowball112

EdamaMe411 wrote:

Hi~! m4m Thank you!

General
No problem :D

Kantan
No problem :)

Futsuu
00:34:734 (69) - change ''d'',,,,,sounds better :roll:
00:37:401 (77) - ^
01:06:734 (153) - ^ ....vocal sing low voice :? No change. I feel like kats are better for the instruments here.

Muzukashii
00:48:068 (26) - change ''d'or''D''',,,,,sounds better :roll: Changed to D.
01:17:401 (154,155,156,157,158,159) - don't match 1/4 notes! I suggest change 1/3 note 8-)
01:18:734 (162,163,164,165,166,167) - ^ It is my intention to map instruments, not vocals, here.

Oni
00:03:901 - add''k'',,,,,in order to 00:02:567 (2) - same note No instrument sound here, so I chose not to use a note.
00:15:401 (39) - change ''d'' ,,,,sounds better ;) Fixed.
00:15:484 - add''d''......^ No, I want to keep the triplet.
00:22:401 (84) - change ''k''......Order to give a sense of unity to your map 8-) Fixed.
00:48:068 (35) - change’’d’’......vocal sing low voice :? Yes, but I want some sort of sound for the finish here. Since I can't use a large note, I used a k instead.
01:03:984 (119) - change''d'' No, the sounds of the triplets are different here in my opinion.
01:05:901 (5) - change ''k'' No, same reason as before.
01:07:068 (4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - cange 1/3 note!! No change.
01:09:401 (17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28) - ^ ^
01:17:401 (70,71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78) - ^ ^
01:18:734 (80,81,82,83,84,85,86,87,88) - ^ ^
01:22:733 (108) - change''d' Fixed. And fixed the rest of the stream as well \o/'
This song 3 have beat many used ;)
So 1/4 notes doesn't fit too :? The vocals follow 1/3. The instruments follow 1/4. I want to map the instruments.

Good luck :D
Thanks for the mod ^^

I finally have a good alternative for the two streams I was worried about........YAY ^^
Now I'm worried about the last one though.......Suggestions on improving 01:27:068 (133,134,135,136,137,138,139,140,141) in the Oni are much appreciated.
PatZar
m4m.
i will do mini mod, since your mods is less to :P

[Oni]
00:22:401 (83) - don, consistent with 00:19:734 (67) - .
00:32:401 (137) - kat, the similar with 00:34:068 (145) - .
00:36:901 (159) - don, if you want follow the instrument, you can hear about background sound and started from this.
00:39:901 (176) - kat, consistent with 00:29:234 (120) -
00:54:068 (56,57,58,59,60) - k d d d k , more follow about instrument. since the sound 00:54:234 (57,58,59) - are similar as don.
01:00:068 (93,94,95) - KDD , 01:00:234 (94,95) - the sound as K is bad, please change it as D more clean sound more good while playing imo.

[Muzu]
00:07:068 (3) - delete, please consistent with 00:06:401 - .
00:07:068 (3,4) - both are note isn't necessary better delete both for better break space too.
00:11:068 (16) - ^
00:15:234 (28) - delete, the drum stream start from 00:15:068 - .
00:17:734 (39,40,41,42,43) - k k k d k, 00:17:734 (39,40,41) - the sound are similar and 00:18:234 (42) - the sound is deep here, it would be nice if you change this.
00:27:068 (80,81) - ctrl + g, this and delete 00:27:234 - , the sound is a bit awkward.
00:30:068 - as like this http://puu.sh/gxkLb/a7680ea0ce.png for better emphasis.
00:33:901 (107) - delete this, you forced the sound.
00:36:901 (120) - don, for better flow.
00:54:568 (47) - delete, you forcing the sound.
00:57:234 (57,63) - delete break space plox.
00:59:568 (66,68) - delete, to bring attention about 01:00:068 (67,68,69) - .
01:00:901 (71,72) - delete -_-.
damn i stop mod for this. you just need more break space for this muzu. and i have no both of futsuu and kantan. well just call me back if you diff is ready enough.

also untick widescreen on futsuu and kantan good luck. don't use 1 colour if you want to reply a mods xD its a bit hard what are you change or not lol.
Topic Starter
snowball112

Genocide wrote:

m4m.
i will do mini mod, since your mods is less to :P I know, but I didn't know what to do with your FUBUKI map. We mapped it differently and I don't want to force a different kind of style on your map. I guess I'll mod some more of your maps soon. Poke me in game and /np me one please.

[Oni]
00:22:401 (83) - don, consistent with 00:19:734 (67) - .Fixed.
00:32:401 (137) - kat, the similar with 00:34:068 (145) - .I think these are different and it is better to keep d here in my opinion.
00:36:901 (159) - don, if you want follow the instrument, you can hear about background sound and started from this. I think k is better here for the high sound in the music.
00:39:901 (176) - kat, consistent with 00:29:234 (120) - I'm not sure about this. I had a k here previously, but together with d at 00:39:734.
00:54:068 (56,57,58,59,60) - k d d d k , more follow about instrument. since the sound 00:54:234 (57,58,59) - are similar as don. Yes, but I wanted to follow the instrument sounds that occur at 00:54:406 (58,59) with k. Will think about this.
01:00:068 (93,94,95) - KDD , 01:00:234 (94,95) - the sound as K is bad, please change it as D more clean sound more good while playing imo. You're right. Fixed.Edit: What I had before feels a bit better to play in my opinion, I might change it back.

[Muzu]
00:07:068 (3) - delete, please consistent with 00:06:401 - . I want to keep this note because other instruments start here at this point and I think this works better for buildup and the 1/1 patterns are not too hard for muzu.
00:07:068 (3,4) - both are note isn't necessary better delete both for better break space too. ^
00:11:068 (16) - ^ ^
00:15:234 (28) - delete, the drum stream start from 00:15:068 - . I won't delete, but I will change 00:15:068 (29,30) to d. The instrument starts at 00:14:734, so that's why I mapped from that point onwards.
00:17:734 (39,40,41,42,43) - k k k d k, 00:17:734 (39,40,41) - the sound are similar and 00:18:234 (42) - the sound is deep here, it would be nice if you change this. I think it is better to not change this. 00:17:739 (42,44,45) have strong sound in my opinion, and the d at the end works well to contrast between 00:18:406 (46) and 00:18:739 (47).
00:27:068 (80,81) - ctrl + g, this and delete 00:27:234 - , the sound is a bit awkward.
00:30:068 - as like this http://puu.sh/gxkLb/a7680ea0ce.png for better emphasis. No. This does not flow as well in my opinion.
00:33:901 (107) - delete this, you forced the sound. No, this pattern is supposed to be a 5 to go together with 00:36:406 (123,124,125,126,127)
00:36:901 (120) - don, for better flow.No. These are supposed to contrast with 00:34:073 (113,114,115).
00:54:568 (47) - delete, you forcing the sound. Because there is an instrument sound that I want to emphasize here and I think this works well.
00:57:234 (57,63) - delete break space plox. No. This is part of the buildup.
00:59:568 (66,68) - delete, to bring attention about 01:00:068 (67,68,69) - .I think it is better to keep the note here since the music builds up strongly at this point.
01:00:901 (71,72) - delete -_-. No. This fits the drumroll in the background.
damn i stop mod for this. you just need more break space for this muzu. and i have no both of futsuu and kantan. well just call me back if you diff is ready enough.
I'll see what I can do about this, but I do not think that this diff is too hard for a muzu. I just didn't want to make too many short parts because I think it would not flow well. And I think muzu is supposed to be a little bit hard. Also, I think that if I make muzu much easier the difficulty spread between muzu and oni would be too big, which is a bigger problem than the muzu being a bit difficult. It is supposed to be a hard diff after all.

also untick widescreen on futsuu and kantan good luck. don't use 1 colour if you want to reply a mods xD its a bit hard what are you change or not lol. Changed
Thanks for the mod ^^

Edit: Finally came up with good streams to end the map ^^
Yaminoma
Hello
m4m
I'm a beginner modder, so, it's ok if you accept some of my suggestions but , please tell me what i'm doing wrong so i can improve!

Oni
00:14:739 (31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39) - change to kkkkdkddk
"00:15:906 (43) - change this to k and 00:16:073 (44) - to D "< up to u decide
00:18:406 (58) - wont an k sound better?
00:27:573 (112) - delete this
00:28:906 (117) - k
00:33:323 - add don here
00:36:906 (159) - d?
00:38:573 - u need a don here
00:43:989 - same, add don
00:44:906 (14) - d
"01:05:989 (6) - delete this and add one d here > 01:06:573 - "
01:11:406 (32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40) - you must to change this to ddddkkddk its way better and fits the song nicely
01:17:406 (72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79,80) - dkkkdkkkd :D
01:18:739 (82,83,84,85,86,87,88,89,90) - same ^ ;)
01:22:073 (102,103,104,105,106,107,108,109,110) - this needs to be replaced with either one dkkddkkdd or dkkkdkkdd or even dkkddkkkd
01:05:989 (6,1) - i think you should delete these notes
01:06:573 - add don

01:11:406 (38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46) - ddkdddkdd ?
01:17:406 (78,79,80,81,82,83,84,85,86) - and 01:18:739 (88,89,90,91,92,93,94,95,96) - dkkkdkkkd
01:22:073 (108,109,110,111,112,113,114,115,116) - ddkkddkdd

"01:25:406 (126,127,128,129) - D k k k
01:26:073 (130,131,132,133,134,135,136,137,138) - dkkddkkdd
01:27:073 (140,141,142,143,144,145,146,147,148) - ddkkdkkdd this is my suggestion , imo it will look better but , u decide it :D"

muzukashii
00:14:989 - i think its ok to add one d here
00:18:406 (47) - k ?
00:25:156 - add d?
00:44:906 (12) - actually u dont need this , remove
01:27:573 (202) - d
futsuu
01:03:073 (144) - remove this
01:03:906 - add d here
01:13:739 (171) - remove this too
01:14:573 - add d here
01:15:073 (174) - move this d to 01:15:239 - (the red tick)
kantan
00:37:406 (61) - d
00:47:739 (81) - k
00:48:073 (82) - D
Topic Starter
snowball112

-TheHateD- wrote:

Hello
m4m
I'm a beginner modder, so, it's ok if you accept some of my suggestions but , please tell me what i'm doing wrong so i can improve!

Oni
00:14:739 (31,32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39) - change to kkkkdkddk Problem is that I want to end this stream on d. I like the way this currently is, because strictly following instruments this would have to be a k-monostream. Will think about changing this.
"00:15:906 (43) - change this to k and 00:16:073 (44) - to D "< up to u decide I think it sounds good the way it is.
00:18:406 (58) - wont an k sound better? If it were that individual note yes, but I wanted to use d here for contrast with the following note 00:18:739 (59)
00:27:573 (112) - delete this I want to keep this note.
00:28:906 (117) - k I like d better for before the kkd at the end of this pattern.
00:33:323 - add don here I think it would be better at 00:33:989. I might add a d there instead.
00:36:906 (159) - d? I want to keep k for the instrument sound.
00:38:573 - u need a don here I kind of want to keep the space here. I like the 5-note patterns.
00:43:989 - same, add don ^
00:44:906 (14) - d I want to keep this as k for the instrument sound.
"01:05:989 (6) - delete this and add one d here > 01:06:573 - "
01:11:406 (32,33,34,35,36,37,38,39,40) - you must to change this to ddddkkddk its way better and fits the song nicely
01:17:406 (72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79,80) - dkkkdkkkd :D I want to end this stream on a k. I'll see how I fix this.
01:18:739 (82,83,84,85,86,87,88,89,90) - same ^ ;) ^
01:22:073 (102,103,104,105,106,107,108,109,110) - this needs to be replaced with either one dkkddkkdd or dkkkdkkdd or even dkkddkkkd
01:05:989 (6,1) - i think you should delete these notes I like this pattern here and there are also instruments that support these triplets, so I would rather keep them.
01:06:573 - add don I want to have a short break after the 1/4 patterns and I think leaving out a note here puts more emphasis on 01:06:739 (3).

01:11:406 (38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46) - ddkdddkdd ?
01:17:406 (78,79,80,81,82,83,84,85,86) - and 01:18:739 (88,89,90,91,92,93,94,95,96) - dkkkdkkkd
01:22:073 (108,109,110,111,112,113,114,115,116) - ddkkddkdd

"01:25:406 (126,127,128,129) - D k k k I think this would be too much k at once if I change this and I like how this plays out right now.
01:26:073 (130,131,132,133,134,135,136,137,138) - dkkddkkdd
01:27:073 (140,141,142,143,144,145,146,147,148) - ddkkdkkdd this is my suggestion , imo it will look better but , u decide it :D" I really like the last two streams, and I won't change them.
For other streams that I have not commented: I will try diffirent patterns out, probably going to change some of the streams in the kiai that consist mainly of d.

muzukashii
00:14:989 - i think its ok to add one d here I want to emphasize the part at 00:15:573 (32,33,34) with a triplet more, so no triplet here.
00:18:406 (47) - k ? Keep as d for contrast with the following note at 00:18:406 (46)
00:25:156 - add d? I would like to avoid using a triplet here.
00:44:906 (12) - actually u dont need this , remove I think there is an instrument sound here to which the k sounds good.
01:27:573 (202) - d Fixed.
futsuu
01:03:073 (144) - remove this I would like to keep this here for the instrument.
01:03:906 - add d here Fixed.
01:13:739 (171) - remove this too Same as the first point.
01:14:573 - add d here Added.
01:15:073 (174) - move this d to 01:15:239 - (the red tick)I think it is better for the flow of the map to only have a 1/2 pattern at the beginning and the rest 1/1 here.
kantan
00:37:406 (61) - d I want to keep k for the finish sound in the music here.
00:47:739 (81) - k Fixed.
00:48:073 (82) - D
Fixed.
Thanks for the mod ^^
Konpaku Sariel
oni
00:15:489 (40) - add d
00:15:823 (44) - add k
00:15:989 (46) - add d

00:18:239 (60,61) - dk

00:18:989 (64) - move to 00:20:323 (72) -

00:19:739 (70) - k

00:20:406 (73) - k

00:22:406 (86) - k

00:29:739 (126,127) - kd

00:31:073 (132) - k

00:31:406 (134,135) - dd

00:31:739 (136) - k

00:35:989 (159) - add d

00:40:406 (184) - k

00:54:573 (59) - d
00:54:656 (60) - add d

00:55:073 (62,65) - ctrl + G

00:55:740 (67) - k

00:56:739 (74) - add d

00:58:073 (83) - add d

01:26:823 (132) - add d
01:26:989 (134) - add k

01:27:823 (144) - add d
01:27:906 (145) - d
01:27:989 (146) - add d
Topic Starter
snowball112

Konpaku Sariel wrote:

oni
00:15:489 (40) - add d
00:15:823 (44) - add k
00:15:989 (46) - add d For the above 3 points: I kind of want to keep the second triplet seperate to emphasize the sound, but I will think about changing that two something like a k triplet if I make the stream longer like you suggested.

00:18:239 (60,61) - dk I had this as dk when I first mapped, but changed because several mods mentioned that ddk would be better than dkk.

00:18:989 (64) - move to 00:20:323 (72) - I think it sounds better to not have a triplet at 00:20:323 and on the first note there is 1/4 in the music to support a triple in my opinion.

00:19:739 (70) - k I feel d fits better here.

00:20:406 (73) - k ^

00:22:406 (86) - k ^

00:29:739 (126,127) - kd

00:31:073 (132) - k

00:31:406 (134,135) - dd

00:31:739 (136) - k

00:35:989 (159) - add d

00:40:406 (184) - k
For the above 6 points: I will think about making these kdddk patterns, but I think what I have currently is more fun because this would creat a lot of ddk 1/2 patterns in a row.

00:54:573 (59) - d I want to keep k for the instrument sound.
00:54:656 (60) - add d I think this part sounds better without a triplet. I don't hear something that would justify this here.

00:55:073 (62,65) - ctrl + G I would like to keep the ddk, so I changed 00:55:073 to k to fit better with the previous pattern. Edit: changed back. The sound is different to the first note of the previous pattern and I want those to go together.
00:55:740 (67) - k I want to leave d here to seperate this from the following buildup.

00:56:739 (74) - add d I think it is better to leave this out for better emphasis.

00:58:073 (83) - add d ^

01:26:823 (132) - add d
01:26:989 (134) - add k

01:27:823 (144) - add d
01:27:906 (145) - d
01:27:989 (146) - add d For the above 5 points: Kind of similar to the first stream, I think it is better to keep these seperate. I'll try to improve on these though.
Thanks for the mod ^^

I think something weird happened to your timestamps though.....
Ringating
from my queue:

cropped a bit off the top and bottom then resized it to 1366x768. also made an alternate version that has some color and luminosity adjustments.no kds
Topic Starter
snowball112

Ringating wrote:

from my queue:

cropped a bit off the top and bottom then resized it to 1366x768. also made an alternate version that has some color and luminosity adjustments.
Wow, that was fast. Thanks a bunch Ringating ^^
Okoratu

schneeballhundertzwoelf wrote:

Also, if you could edit it to remove the text that would be amazing.
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