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mijkolsmith
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Thursday, February 19, 2015 at 4:24:47 PM

Artist: DecisionS
Title: INFINITY OVERDRIVE
Source: SOUND VOLTEX II -infinite infection-
Tags: kanone nora2r sdvx booth
BPM: 185
Filesize: 3133kb
Play Time: 01:54
Difficulties Available:
  1. ADVANCED - 4Key (3.02 stars, 981 notes)
  2. BASIC - 4Key (1.46 stars, 426 notes)
  3. EXHAUST - 4Key (3.51 stars, 1300 notes)
  4. INFINITE INFINITY - 4Key (4.06 stars, 1520 notes)
  5. NOVICE - 4Key (2.23 stars, 653 notes)
Download: DecisionS - INFINITY OVERDRIVE
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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"Infinity overdrive 4K difficulty. The map was only available in 7k and I can't play that... So I made a 4k instead ^u^"
SV still needs checking, advanced to infinite infinity has them.

Need to fix exhaust and infinite, you can mod the other diffs

Mods:
Basic: 2
Novice: 2
Advanced: 2
Exhaust: 1 [wip for now]
Infinite infinity: 3 [wip for now]

Thanks to the modders:
Hamitsuka
wen294
GraveChaos
Harbyter
Ethereality
Hi !

2 months later and no mod.. :/

Well, let's do this !

EZ 4k

00:59:999 (59999|2) : There are two notes on the same time, this is not really...playable.
Same thing at 01:30:161 (90161|2) -

NM 4k


Two notes on the same time :
Here : 00:18:810 (18810|0) - , here 00:30:485 (30485|3) - , here 00:59:026 (59026|0) - and here 01:47:026 (107026|0) - (at the end of the left slider)

HD 4k

TOO
MANY
NOTES
ON THE SAME
TIME

So : 00:16:864 (16864|0) - , 00:17:188 (17188|3) - , 01:10:377 (70377|3) - , 01:13:296 (73296|2) - (at the end of the slider) , 01:16:539 (76539|0) - (at the beginning of the slider) , 01:20:756 (80756|0) - , 01:35:999 (95999|2) - (at the beginning of the slider) annnnd 01:54:810 (114810|3) -

It would be awesome to see this beatmap ranked you know :D
Ethereality
Hi.

Just some little settings..

For the EZ, set the HP Drain Rate and the Overall Difficulty at 7.
00:05:188 (5188|2) - What the heck is this note doing here

For the NM, set the HP Drain Rate at 7.
Topic Starter
mijkolsmith

Hamitsuka wrote:

Hi.

Just some little settings..

For the EZ, set the HP Drain Rate and the Overall Difficulty at 7.
00:05:188 (5188|2) - What the heck is this note doing here

For the NM, set the HP Drain Rate at 7.
"00:05:188 (5188|2) - What the heck is this note doing here"
He was just chillin'
Thanks for the mod :D
wen294
01:27:566 (87566|3,87566|2,87647|2,87647|3,87729|1,87729|0,87810|1,87810|0,87891|1,87891|2,87972|2,87972|1,88053|3,88053|0,88134|0,88134|3,88215|1,88215|3,88296|3,88296|1,88377|2,88377|0,88458|2,88458|0,88539|3,88539|2,88539|1) -

some jacks like these are a bit too much, maybe change the placing a bit. same problem at some other spots, i agree it does fit the music but we don't want to break our keyboard trying to hit jacks like these.

also in my opinion a bit much tripples without hearing any reason for tripple notes in the song?

note that this is all about the infinite infinity diff.
Topic Starter
mijkolsmith

wen294 wrote:

01:27:566 (87566|3,87566|2,87647|2,87647|3,87729|1,87729|0,87810|1,87810|0,87891)

some jacks like these are a bit too much, maybe change the placing a bit. same problem at some other spots, i agree it does fit the music but we don't want to break our keyboard trying to hit jacks like these.

also in my opinion a bit much tripples without hearing any reason for tripple notes in the song?

note that this is all about the infinite infinity diff.
Thanks for the mod, I removed lots of jacks :p
I hear triples for the rythm personally so that's why they're there mostly :)
Out Of Pancakes
Hello,


I don't know how to mod or stuff like that, I just wanted to offer some feedback from a mediocre player point of view :

Some of the SV feel very frustrating because you don't see what notes are going to come faster at you. It's like you start a LN, you know that a SV is gonna come, but there are actually two notes at the end of the LN that you can not see and that are going to come to you really fast because of the SV. The only way to hit them is to know the map by heart or have super fast reaction time that I don't have.
I hope you can see what I mean and which parts of the map I'm talking about (sorry, I don't know how to do like modders do :/).

On another note, OD10 for INIFINITE INFINITY is huge since it's HP9 ;_; I think that OD9 is difficult enough.


Those are just my players opinions but I hope that they will help you!


Cheers and good luck with your map!
Topic Starter
mijkolsmith

Out Of Pancakes wrote:

Hello,


I don't know how to mod or stuff like that, I just wanted to offer some feedback from a mediocre player point of view :

Some of the SV feel very frustrating because you don't see what notes are going to come faster at you. It's like you start a LN, you know that a SV is gonna come, but there are actually two notes at the end of the LN that you can not see and that are going to come to you really fast because of the SV. The only way to hit them is to know the map by heart or have super fast reaction time that I don't have.
I hope you can see what I mean and which parts of the map I'm talking about (sorry, I don't know how to do like modders do :/).

On another note, OD10 for INIFINITE INFINITY is huge since it's HP9 ;_; I think that OD9 is difficult enough.


Those are just my players opinions but I hope that they will help you!


Cheers and good luck with your map!
Hello and thanks!

Modding is done by going to a beatmap, rightclicking it, and then "edit".
You can then copy notes and paste them here for example.

The speed changes are found in the menu: 'timing setup' under timing.
If you play the beatmap in edit mode and you find the part you mean, then go to timing setup and tell me which one you mean.
Then just post the timing in bottom left here of every SV that you mean and I will decide what I do with it.

I will change the OD to 9 because I agree it's pretty damn hard XD

Greetings mijkolsmith :D

ps best way to learn maps SV's is by checking SV's this way in the timing setup :p
Out Of Pancakes
Alright, thanks for teaching me, will do when I'll have some time!
Out Of Pancakes
Hello again,


I did not know it would actually take so much time...

Please keep in mind that those are entirely my very own opinions and that I'm just looking for what seems fun or not to me. Feel free to disagree with anything I will say.


SPOILER
I have to say that I dislike the vast majority of the x2.00 SVs you did (sorry). Why? As I said in my previous post, most of them have "hidden" notes which I found very tough to hit. I saw that you go back to x1.00 just before those "hidden" notes but the "just before" is actually less than 0.1 second, which requires pretty fast reaction time: you give us less than 0.1 second to read a pattern/notes that is/are going to be x2.00.
Most of them are during long notes, which make them pretty tough to know exactly when to stop.
The SVs listed that will have no comments are entering this category.

The "Please don't" means : y u do dis to me => pretty rough, I don't know how to hit that.


ADVANCED :

00:10:702
00:24:972
00:36:323
00:44:431
01:03:729 and back to normal at 01:03:972 is good.
01:12:647 to 01:13:296
01:19:783 and 01:20:431 are pretty annoying.
01:23:350
01:25:945 : Please don't.
01:28:539 : if you do SVs when there are no notes, please give us more time to read what is going to come up.
01:29:188 and 01:30:485 : Please don't.
01:33:891 : I don't see what it brings.
01:36:323
01:38:918
01:41:512
01:43:783 and 01:44:026 : why?
01:46:377 and 01:46:702 : tough.
01:51:566



EXHAUST

00:10:702
00:24:972
00:36:323
00:44:431
00:46:702
00:47:026
00:49:620
00:57:080
01:03:729
01:06:161
01:12:647 and 01:12:972
01:15:161
01:19:783 and 01:20:431
01:23:350
01:25:945
01:28:539 to 01:28:783 : I don't how you can hit that note in the middle.
01:29:188 : Please don't.
01:30:485 : Please don't.
01:33:891
01:36:323
01:38:593 then 01:38:918 : Please don't. 0.75 to 2.00 is pretty rough.
01:43:783
01:44:026
01:44:269 : this one is 0.041 seconds long and I don't see what it brings.
01:46:377
01:46:702
01:51:566



That said, I think I understand why you put which SV where when listening to the song. The solution I would propose is to put more than 0.1 second between back to x1.00 and hitting the next note, if you see what I mean: this would make it easier to read.
Now, please mind that I don't know anything about mapping nor modding so I don't really know if the solution I propose would work out or not.

I hope this will help you!


Cheers
Topic Starter
mijkolsmith

Out Of Pancakes wrote:

Hello again,


I did not know it would actually take so much time...

Please keep in mind that those are entirely my very own opinions and that I'm just looking for what seems fun or not to me. Feel free to disagree with anything I will say.


SPOILER
I have to say that I dislike the vast majority of the x2.00 SVs you did (sorry). Why? As I said in my previous post, most of them have "hidden" notes which I found very tough to hit. I saw that you go back to x1.00 just before those "hidden" notes but the "just before" is actually less than 0.1 second, which requires pretty fast reaction time: you give us less than 0.1 second to read a pattern/notes that is/are going to be x2.00.
Most of them are during long notes, which make them pretty tough to know exactly when to stop.
The SVs listed that will have no comments are entering this category.

The "Please don't" means : y u do dis to me => pretty rough, I don't know how to hit that.


ADVANCED :

00:10:702
00:24:972
00:36:323
00:44:431
01:03:729 and back to normal at 01:03:972 is good.
01:12:647 to 01:13:296 I don't get what you mean
01:19:783 and 01:20:431 are pretty annoying. That is correct
01:23:350
01:25:945 : Please don't. sorry but I'm really keeping this one
01:28:539 : if you do SVs when there are no notes, please give us more time to read what is going to come up. don't know why this was there(deleted)
01:29:188 and 01:30:485 : Please don't. But I did ;)
01:33:891 : I don't see what it brings.me neither(deleted)
01:36:323
01:38:918
01:41:512
01:43:783 and 01:44:026 : why? see 01:02:269
01:46:377 and 01:46:702 : tough.
01:51:566



EXHAUST

00:10:702
00:24:972
00:36:323
00:44:431
00:46:702
00:47:026
00:49:620
00:57:080
01:03:729
01:06:161
01:12:647 and 01:12:972
01:15:161 Can't fix this one
01:19:783 and 01:20:431 This should stay as it is
01:23:350
01:25:945 sorry but I'm really keeping this one
01:28:539 to 01:28:783 : I don't how you can hit that note in the middle. What do you mean?
01:29:188 : Please don't. 01:30:485 : Please don't. keeping these ^^
01:33:891
01:36:323
01:38:593 then 01:38:918 : Please don't. 0.75 to 2.00 is pretty rough. The pattern is simple, but i changed it to 1,5
*
01:43:783
01:44:026
01:44:269 : this one is 0.041 seconds long and I don't see what it brings. >>> see 01:02:269
*
01:46:377
01:46:702
01:51:566



That said, I think I understand why you put which SV where when listening to the song. The solution I would propose is to put more than 0.1 second between back to x1.00 and hitting the next note, if you see what I mean: this would make it easier to read.
Now, please mind that I don't know anything about mapping nor modding so I don't really know if the solution I propose would work out or not.

I hope this will help you!


Cheers
Firstly, thanks for the mod!
It was really helpful!

I'm new to SV's myself so not very good at it.

Sometimes I didnt got what you mean, I've left comments in the quote there.
Can we maybe talk that via the in game chat or just leave another post here XD
I am online a lot during 16:00-22:00 (GMT +1).

I changed all these with infinite infinity too.

Also just a side-question, what scrolling speed do you play on?

Greetings, mijkolsmith :D
Out Of Pancakes
I play on 22 fixed scrolling speed.

I got exams on the 18th of December so I'm rarely online those days. Talking in game would surely be faster than by posts, so I'll try to show up one day or another.
Gravey-
Hi MOD here as requested in my Queue~ (~*w*)~
[4K MOD]

Uncheck:
Song setup > Design > Widescreen support (This only applies to storyboard)
BG image size: 1366 x 768
|1|2|3|4|
BASIC
00:11:026 Add note to |2| (Drumbeat - Cymbal | Loud impact | Same pattern as before at the first notes)
00:11:350 (11350|1) - Move to |3| (For consistency of pattern)
00:13:620 Add note to |2| (Drumbeat - Cymbal | Loud impact | Pattern)
00:17:512 ^
00:29:512 (29512|3,29837|2) - Move the long note in |3| while the short note in |2| (Pattern & Hand balance)
00:59:675 (59675|3) - Move to |2| for pattern consistency then...
00:59:999 (59999|2,60161|1,60323|0,60485|1) - Make this ladder start from |4| to |1| (Pattern)
NOVICE
Nein!
ADVANCED
00:03:729 Add note to |4| (Pattern)
00:37:783 (37783|0) - Move to |2| (Pattern & Hand balance)
01:03:080 Add note to |2| (Drumbeat - Cymbal | Impact | Same pattern & beats)
EXHAUST
OD = 8
00:09:566 (9566|0) - Move to |2| (Pattern)
01:07:458 (67458|3,67499|2,67539|1,67580|0,67702|1,67783|2,67864|3,67945|2,67985|1,68026|0) - Make this single noted ladder in the lines couz' it's not necessary to be like this if you listen closely these notes 01:07:499 (67499|2,67580|0,67985|1) - Are kinda out of place & don't have specific instrument/s so i suggest to move it to the blue & red line/s (Pattern | Note placement)
01:19:823 (79823|2,79904|0,80472|1,80553|3) - Remove not necessary (No particular instrument)
01:29:229 (89229|2,89310|0,89391|2,89472|0) - I don't think so with these too
01:30:526 (90526|1,90607|3,90688|1,90769|3) - ^
01:36:972 Add note to |3| (Drumbeat - Hit hat/cymbal | Pattern | Impact)
INFINITE INFINITY
00:37:620 (37620|1,37620|3,37783|0,37783|2) - Ctrl + H (Pattern & Hand balance)
Be consistent with yer patterns here because i notice some parts here that (Drumbeat - Clap - Cymbal/Hit hat with impact) are inconsistent. Some has 3 noted while the others have 2 or even 1...

Nice map!~
Good luck!~ =w=)b
Topic Starter
mijkolsmith

[GraveChaos] wrote:

Hi MOD here as requested in my Queue~ (~*w*)~
[4K MOD]

Uncheck:
Song setup > Design > Widescreen support (This only applies to storyboard)
BG image size: 1366 x 768
|1|2|3|4|
BASIC
00:11:026 Add note to |2| (Drumbeat - Cymbal | Loud impact | Same pattern as before at the first notes)
00:11:350 (11350|1) - Move to |3| (For consistency of pattern)
00:13:620 Add note to |2| (Drumbeat - Cymbal | Loud impact | Pattern)
00:17:512 ^
00:29:512 (29512|3,29837|2) - Move the long note in |3| while the short note in |2| (Pattern & Hand balance)
00:59:675 (59675|3) - Move to |2| for pattern consistency then...
00:59:999 (59999|2,60161|1,60323|0,60485|1) - Make this ladder start from |4| to |1| (Pattern)
NOVICE
Nee!
ADVANCED
00:03:729 Add note to |4| (Pattern)
00:37:783 (37783|0) - Move to |2| (Pattern & Hand balance)
01:03:080 Add note to |2| (Drumbeat - Cymbal | Impact | Same pattern & beats)
EXHAUST
OD = 8
00:09:566 (9566|0) - Move to |2| (Pattern)
01:07:458 (67458|3,67499|2,67539|1,67580|0,67702|1,67783|2,67864|3,67945|2,67985|1,68026|0) - Make this single noted ladder in the lines couz' it's not necessary to be like this if you listen closely these notes 01:07:499 (67499|2,67580|0,67985|1) - Are kinda out of place & don't have specific instrument/s so i suggest to move it to the blue & red line/s (Pattern | Note placement)
01:19:823 (79823|2,79904|0,80472|1,80553|3) - Remove not necessary (No particular instrument)
01:29:229 (89229|2,89310|0,89391|2,89472|0) - I don't think so with these too
01:30:526 (90526|1,90607|3,90688|1,90769|3) - ^
01:36:972 Add note to |3| (Drumbeat - Hit hat/cymbal | Pattern | Impact)
INFINITE INFINITY
00:37:620 (37620|1,37620|3,37783|0,37783|2) - Ctrl + H (Pattern & Hand balance)
Be consistent with yer patterns here because i notice some parts here that (Drumbeat - Clap - Cymbal/Hit hat with impact) are inconsistent. Some has 3 noted while the others have 2 or even 1...

Nice map!~
Good luck!~ =w=)b
Thanks for modding! :D
Also, dutch is not deutsch(german) so "nein" should be "nee" :p
-mijkolsmith
Ethereality
Hi

ADVANCE

01:29:188 and 01:30:485 : These SVs are unreadable
Harbyter
hi~ here the mod req from ▣▣▣No.1 Team Modding Queue [Mania]▣▣▣



INFINITE INFINITY
00:18:810 - from here to here 00:20:107 - the snap divisor isn't more 1/4 but a 1/3 so i think you should resnap all the notes

00:25:945 - here to here 00:26:593 - like the first one ,1/3 divisor

00:27:566 - here to here 00:27:891 - 1/3

00:30:161 (30161|0,30161|2,30242|1,30323|0,30404|1,30485|3,30485|0,30485|1) - how about to change this in his 1/8 stream??like this

00:33:729 - here to here 00:34:377 - another 1/3 snap divisor

00:39:242 - here to here 00:39:566 - 1/3

00:40:783 - here i suggest to complete the pattern,add note 3 here and then dele this 00:40:864 (40864|2) - ,sound isn't really high for those 3 notes

00:50:512 (50512|3) - nothing,delete?

00:54:810 - here to here 00:55:134 - another 1/3

01:07:458 (67458|3,67499|2,67539|1,67580|0,67702|1,67783|2,67864|3,67945|2,67985|1,68026|0) - uhmm.. i think this is overmap,rearrange with a simple 1/4 stream?

01:10:783 - add 2?

01:17:431 - add 4?

01:17:837 - here to here 01:18:485 - another 1/3

01:19:823 (79823|2,79904|0,80472|1,80553|3) - well i think those notes doesn't really suit...delete?..and why here 01:19:783 - 2 notes and here 01:20:431 - only 1,they are the same sound so add note 4 on the second?

01:28:215 - here to here 01:28:539 - 1/3 divisor

01:29:188 (89188|3,89229|2,89269|1,89310|0,89350|3,89391|2,89431|1,89472|0) -
01:30:485 (90485|0,90526|1,90566|2,90607|3,90647|0,90688|1,90729|2,90769|3) -
01:38:999 (98999|0,99080|0,99161|0) -
01:54:364 (114364|1,114404|2,114445|3) - overmap ,delete they??



then for the SV...well.. the best suggestion that i can give you for they is to check other maps with good sv and then try to copy some of theire formula, in this song,depend on the sound ,there are a lot of different SV that you can use .

fox example the first one here 00:10:702 - for this sound a good SV for this is ---->

00:10:702 - turn this sv in 5.00x
00:10:756 - add sv 0.60x
00:10:864 - move this 1.00x here 00:11:026 -
but you should delete this LN 00:10:702 (10702|2) - ,you also have to create pattern that are suitable for the SV, SV are enjoyable with good pattern remember this.


00:33:729 - this SV is wrong better remove it lol

and ecc ecc

-------


well that's all, hope i'll be helpfull :)
Topic Starter
mijkolsmith

Hamitsuka wrote:

Hi

ADVANCE

01:29:188 and 01:30:485 : These SVs are unreadable
I know ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Topic Starter
mijkolsmith

Harbyter wrote:

hi~ here the mod req from ▣▣▣No.1 Team Modding Queue [Mania]▣▣▣



INFINITE INFINITY
00:18:810 - from here to here 00:20:107 - the snap divisor isn't more 1/4 but a 1/3 so i think you should resnap all the notes

00:25:945 - here to here 00:26:593 - like the first one ,1/3 divisor

00:27:566 - here to here 00:27:891 - 1/3

00:30:161 (30161|0,30161|2,30242|1,30323|0,30404|1,30485|3,30485|0,30485|1) - how about to change this in his 1/8 stream??like this

00:33:729 - here to here 00:34:377 - another 1/3 snap divisor

00:39:242 - here to here 00:39:566 - 1/3

00:40:783 - here i suggest to complete the pattern,add note 3 here and then dele this 00:40:864 (40864|2) - ,sound isn't really high for those 3 notes

00:50:512 (50512|3) - nothing,delete?

00:54:810 - here to here 00:55:134 - another 1/3

01:07:458 (67458|3,67499|2,67539|1,67580|0,67702|1,67783|2,67864|3,67945|2,67985|1,68026|0) - uhmm.. i think this is overmap,rearrange with a simple 1/4 stream?

01:10:783 - add 2?

01:17:431 - add 4?

01:17:837 - here to here 01:18:485 - another 1/3

01:19:823 (79823|2,79904|0,80472|1,80553|3) - well i think those notes doesn't really suit...delete?..and why here 01:19:783 - 2 notes and here 01:20:431 - only 1,they are the same sound so add note 4 on the second?

01:28:215 - here to here 01:28:539 - 1/3 divisor

01:29:188 (89188|3,89229|2,89269|1,89310|0,89350|3,89391|2,89431|1,89472|0) -
01:30:485 (90485|0,90526|1,90566|2,90607|3,90647|0,90688|1,90729|2,90769|3) -
01:38:999 (98999|0,99080|0,99161|0) -
01:54:364 (114364|1,114404|2,114445|3) - overmap ,delete they??



then for the SV...well.. the best suggestion that i can give you for they is to check other maps with good sv and then try to copy some of theire formula, in this song,depend on the sound ,there are a lot of different SV that you can use .

fox example the first one here 00:10:702 - for this sound a good SV for this is ---->

00:10:702 - turn this sv in 5.00x
00:10:756 - add sv 0.60x
00:10:864 - move this 1.00x here 00:11:026 -
but you should delete this LN 00:10:702 (10702|2) - ,you also have to create pattern that are suitable for the SV, SV are enjoyable with good pattern remember this.


00:33:729 - this SV is wrong better remove it lol

and ecc ecc

-------


well that's all, hope i'll be helpfull :)
Thanks for modding all that shit...
After looking at this map after quite a while I see how bad some thing are mapped lol
still need to fix exhaust and infinity overdrive a little i think

-mijkolsmith :D
Harbyter
rechecking old map is like modding a new song,you can find lot of error later xD
Topic Starter
mijkolsmith

Harbyter wrote:

rechecking old map is like modding a new song,you can find lot of error later xD
dat reply speed doe
Remillion Cross
ww
Raging Bull
idk about the speed changes. I play SDVX quite a bit and sometimes i didn't expect speed changes.
Topic Starter
mijkolsmith

Remillion Cross wrote:

ww
remillion cross-senpai /.\
(Thanks for the offset and bpm lol)

Raging Bull wrote:

idk about the speed changes. I play SDVX quite a bit and sometimes i didn't expect speed changes.
Yeah I gotta fix the hardest 2 difficulties the speed changes are a shit (like your waifu (shots fired)) (loljk)
Remillion Cross

mijkolsmith wrote:

Remillion Cross wrote:

ww
remillion cross-senpai /.\
(Thanks for the offset and bpm lol)
but i don't give you anything :|
Topic Starter
mijkolsmith

Remillion Cross wrote:

mijkolsmith wrote:

remillion cross-senpai /.\
(Thanks for the offset and bpm lol)
but i don't give you anything :|
I'm just... borrowing it. lol
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