Timing discussion with fruko
2017-05-16 21:00 frukoyurdakul: Hello, can i ask something about a map's timing?
2017-05-16 21:00 Skylish: sure
2017-05-16 21:00 frukoyurdakul: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1288323 Angel Vivaldi - Acid Reign]
2017-05-16 21:00 frukoyurdakul: The map is this, and I'm concerned about some spots on the map
2017-05-16 21:01 frukoyurdakul: okay so
2017-05-16 21:02 frukoyurdakul: 00:48:077 -
2017-05-16 21:02 Skylish: what those spots?
2017-05-16 21:02 Skylish: (yay please continue)
2017-05-16 21:02 frukoyurdakul: on that spot, idk the BPM is correct
2017-05-16 21:02 frukoyurdakul: but it's definitely changing
2017-05-16 21:03 Skylish: 00:48:077 - this offset is wrong already
2017-05-16 21:03 frukoyurdakul: umm, how? i hit the notes perfectly
2017-05-16 21:04 Skylish: There's about ~15ms earlier for hitting the base drum
2017-05-16 21:05 frukoyurdakul: you're right the note is coming early
2017-05-16 21:06 Skylish: 00:48:091 - +4ms
2017-05-16 21:06 Skylish: around 48091~48095
2017-05-16 21:06 Skylish: but lemme check the BPM first
2017-05-16 21:06 frukoyurdakul: okay, im waiting
2017-05-16 21:06 Skylish: **I am using 48095 as the new start of red timing, give me some time
2017-05-16 21:13 Skylish: lol it is so hard to find the exact BPM
2017-05-16 21:14 frukoyurdakul: unfortunately
2017-05-16 21:14 frukoyurdakul: that spot is a bit inconsistent on the song
2017-05-16 21:14 Skylish: yeah
2017-05-16 21:14 frukoyurdakul: 202 is the best option that i've found so far
2017-05-16 21:14 Skylish: 00:50:453 - about this timing
2017-05-16 21:14 Skylish: 00:50:742 -
2017-05-16 21:14 Skylish: and these two
2017-05-16 21:14 Skylish: those off-beat 3/2 music are slower and slower
2017-05-16 21:15 Skylish: There are BPM shifting
2017-05-16 21:15 Skylish: I was struggling there
2017-05-16 21:15 Skylish: *the music is inconsistent as well
2017-05-16 21:16 frukoyurdakul: 00:50:418 -
2017-05-16 21:16 frukoyurdakul: on this one, i believe the BPM is not correct, it should be 207 or something
2017-05-16 21:17 frukoyurdakul: well, as in shifted to 50:453
2017-05-16 21:17 frukoyurdakul: but, if i do that
2017-05-16 21:17 frukoyurdakul: 00:50:850 (338,339,340,341) -
2017-05-16 21:17 frukoyurdakul: these will not come in time
2017-05-16 21:17 Skylish: yes I understand, let
2017-05-16 21:17 Skylish: let's try: 00:49:877 - put a BPM=208 here
2017-05-16 21:18 Skylish: 00:52:689 - another BPM=208 here
2017-05-16 21:18 Skylish: the music is currently 'well' snapped for me
2017-05-16 21:18 Skylish: at least there's not really huge error
2017-05-16 21:19 frukoyurdakul: i tested this map with OD 9
2017-05-16 21:19 frukoyurdakul: plus HD if the notes are coming right
2017-05-16 21:19 frukoyurdakul: and got 99.2 acc in total
2017-05-16 21:19 frukoyurdakul: and i played fine on these spots
2017-05-16 21:19 Skylish: ummm, personally I do not recommend using testplay to test the accuracy of offset and BPM, but it may be good for you
2017-05-16 21:20 Skylish: for now I can only offer these help for you
2017-05-16 21:20 frukoyurdakul: im mostly accurate
2017-05-16 21:20 frukoyurdakul: hmm, i was worried about one more thing
2017-05-16 21:20 frukoyurdakul: 03:13:468 -
2017-05-16 21:20 frukoyurdakul: i can't detect the measure resets
2017-05-16 21:21 Skylish: checking
2017-05-16 21:22 Skylish: after 03:41:737 - is fine
2017-05-16 21:22 frukoyurdakul: yeah,
2017-05-16 21:23 frukoyurdakul: it's actually between the two spots
2017-05-16 21:23 frukoyurdakul: forgot to mention that, sorry
2017-05-16 21:29 Skylish: https://puu.sh/vRKY5/77da7a89e8.png
2017-05-16 21:29 Skylish: finally
2017-05-16 21:30 Skylish: 03:13:468 - 5/4
2017-05-16 21:30 frukoyurdakul: the other ones are not neccessary then?
2017-05-16 21:30 Skylish: 03:25:871 - 3/4
2017-05-16 21:30 Skylish: 03:27:601 - 4/4
2017-05-16 21:30 Skylish: which one are you talking about?
2017-05-16 21:30 frukoyurdakul: 03:18:660 -
2017-05-16 21:30 Skylish: oh sorry
2017-05-16 21:30 frukoyurdakul: this one for example
2017-05-16 21:32 Skylish: 03:18:660 -
2017-05-16 21:32 frukoyurdakul: 03:25:583 - except this one I believe, i used it for omitting the bar line
2017-05-16 21:32 Skylish: Let me re-send the timing
2017-05-16 21:32 Skylish: to be clearer
2017-05-16 21:34 frukoyurdakul: okay
2017-05-16 21:34 Skylish: 03:13:468 - 5/4
2017-05-16 21:34 Skylish: 03:18:660 - 7/4
2017-05-16 21:34 frukoyurdakul: yup, fixed
2017-05-16 21:34 Skylish: 03:20:679 - 5/4 again
2017-05-16 21:35 Skylish: 03:25:871 - 3/4
2017-05-16 21:35 frukoyurdakul: yeah, i was thinking about it
2017-05-16 21:35 frukoyurdakul: wanna keep 6/4 there
2017-05-16 21:35 frukoyurdakul: i didn't use 3/4 on the map
2017-05-16 21:35 Skylish: 03:27:601 - then until here I think that'd be the second repetition of 03:13:468 -
2017-05-16 21:35 frukoyurdakul: yeah, makes sense
2017-05-16 21:36 Skylish: 03:25:871 - / 03:26:736 - extra clear and strong drum kicks here and there
2017-05-16 21:36 Skylish: so that'd be 3/4 for 03:25:871 -
2017-05-16 21:37 Skylish: after 03:27:601 - , you should check it by yourself, I am too lazy to check lol
2017-05-16 21:37 frukoyurdakul: yeah there is one spot more like that, and i'll fix it too
2017-05-16 21:37 Skylish: the mode of measure should be similar, yay
2017-05-16 21:37 frukoyurdakul: but, you deserved a kudos i can say that
2017-05-16 21:37 Skylish: thanks, you can always find me if the map has any other problems about timing
2017-05-16 21:37 Skylish: I am more than glad to help you
2017-05-16 21:38 frukoyurdakul: thanks :^) please post it to the thread
2017-05-16 21:38 Skylish: np
2017-05-16 21:00 Skylish: sure
2017-05-16 21:00 frukoyurdakul: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1288323 Angel Vivaldi - Acid Reign]
2017-05-16 21:00 frukoyurdakul: The map is this, and I'm concerned about some spots on the map
2017-05-16 21:01 frukoyurdakul: okay so
2017-05-16 21:02 frukoyurdakul: 00:48:077 -
2017-05-16 21:02 Skylish: what those spots?
2017-05-16 21:02 Skylish: (yay please continue)
2017-05-16 21:02 frukoyurdakul: on that spot, idk the BPM is correct
2017-05-16 21:02 frukoyurdakul: but it's definitely changing
2017-05-16 21:03 Skylish: 00:48:077 - this offset is wrong already
2017-05-16 21:03 frukoyurdakul: umm, how? i hit the notes perfectly
2017-05-16 21:04 Skylish: There's about ~15ms earlier for hitting the base drum
2017-05-16 21:05 frukoyurdakul: you're right the note is coming early
2017-05-16 21:06 Skylish: 00:48:091 - +4ms
2017-05-16 21:06 Skylish: around 48091~48095
2017-05-16 21:06 Skylish: but lemme check the BPM first
2017-05-16 21:06 frukoyurdakul: okay, im waiting
2017-05-16 21:06 Skylish: **I am using 48095 as the new start of red timing, give me some time
2017-05-16 21:13 Skylish: lol it is so hard to find the exact BPM
2017-05-16 21:14 frukoyurdakul: unfortunately
2017-05-16 21:14 frukoyurdakul: that spot is a bit inconsistent on the song
2017-05-16 21:14 Skylish: yeah
2017-05-16 21:14 frukoyurdakul: 202 is the best option that i've found so far
2017-05-16 21:14 Skylish: 00:50:453 - about this timing
2017-05-16 21:14 Skylish: 00:50:742 -
2017-05-16 21:14 Skylish: and these two
2017-05-16 21:14 Skylish: those off-beat 3/2 music are slower and slower
2017-05-16 21:15 Skylish: There are BPM shifting
2017-05-16 21:15 Skylish: I was struggling there
2017-05-16 21:15 Skylish: *the music is inconsistent as well
2017-05-16 21:16 frukoyurdakul: 00:50:418 -
2017-05-16 21:16 frukoyurdakul: on this one, i believe the BPM is not correct, it should be 207 or something
2017-05-16 21:17 frukoyurdakul: well, as in shifted to 50:453
2017-05-16 21:17 frukoyurdakul: but, if i do that
2017-05-16 21:17 frukoyurdakul: 00:50:850 (338,339,340,341) -
2017-05-16 21:17 frukoyurdakul: these will not come in time
2017-05-16 21:17 Skylish: yes I understand, let
2017-05-16 21:17 Skylish: let's try: 00:49:877 - put a BPM=208 here
2017-05-16 21:18 Skylish: 00:52:689 - another BPM=208 here
2017-05-16 21:18 Skylish: the music is currently 'well' snapped for me
2017-05-16 21:18 Skylish: at least there's not really huge error
2017-05-16 21:19 frukoyurdakul: i tested this map with OD 9
2017-05-16 21:19 frukoyurdakul: plus HD if the notes are coming right
2017-05-16 21:19 frukoyurdakul: and got 99.2 acc in total
2017-05-16 21:19 frukoyurdakul: and i played fine on these spots
2017-05-16 21:19 Skylish: ummm, personally I do not recommend using testplay to test the accuracy of offset and BPM, but it may be good for you
2017-05-16 21:20 Skylish: for now I can only offer these help for you
2017-05-16 21:20 frukoyurdakul: im mostly accurate
2017-05-16 21:20 frukoyurdakul: hmm, i was worried about one more thing
2017-05-16 21:20 frukoyurdakul: 03:13:468 -
2017-05-16 21:20 frukoyurdakul: i can't detect the measure resets
2017-05-16 21:21 Skylish: checking
2017-05-16 21:22 Skylish: after 03:41:737 - is fine
2017-05-16 21:22 frukoyurdakul: yeah,
2017-05-16 21:23 frukoyurdakul: it's actually between the two spots
2017-05-16 21:23 frukoyurdakul: forgot to mention that, sorry
2017-05-16 21:29 Skylish: https://puu.sh/vRKY5/77da7a89e8.png
2017-05-16 21:29 Skylish: finally
2017-05-16 21:30 Skylish: 03:13:468 - 5/4
2017-05-16 21:30 frukoyurdakul: the other ones are not neccessary then?
2017-05-16 21:30 Skylish: 03:25:871 - 3/4
2017-05-16 21:30 Skylish: 03:27:601 - 4/4
2017-05-16 21:30 Skylish: which one are you talking about?
2017-05-16 21:30 frukoyurdakul: 03:18:660 -
2017-05-16 21:30 Skylish: oh sorry
2017-05-16 21:30 frukoyurdakul: this one for example
2017-05-16 21:32 Skylish: 03:18:660 -
2017-05-16 21:32 frukoyurdakul: 03:25:583 - except this one I believe, i used it for omitting the bar line
2017-05-16 21:32 Skylish: Let me re-send the timing
2017-05-16 21:32 Skylish: to be clearer
2017-05-16 21:34 frukoyurdakul: okay
2017-05-16 21:34 Skylish: 03:13:468 - 5/4
2017-05-16 21:34 Skylish: 03:18:660 - 7/4
2017-05-16 21:34 frukoyurdakul: yup, fixed
2017-05-16 21:34 Skylish: 03:20:679 - 5/4 again
2017-05-16 21:35 Skylish: 03:25:871 - 3/4
2017-05-16 21:35 frukoyurdakul: yeah, i was thinking about it
2017-05-16 21:35 frukoyurdakul: wanna keep 6/4 there
2017-05-16 21:35 frukoyurdakul: i didn't use 3/4 on the map
2017-05-16 21:35 Skylish: 03:27:601 - then until here I think that'd be the second repetition of 03:13:468 -
2017-05-16 21:35 frukoyurdakul: yeah, makes sense
2017-05-16 21:36 Skylish: 03:25:871 - / 03:26:736 - extra clear and strong drum kicks here and there
2017-05-16 21:36 Skylish: so that'd be 3/4 for 03:25:871 -
2017-05-16 21:37 Skylish: after 03:27:601 - , you should check it by yourself, I am too lazy to check lol
2017-05-16 21:37 frukoyurdakul: yeah there is one spot more like that, and i'll fix it too
2017-05-16 21:37 Skylish: the mode of measure should be similar, yay
2017-05-16 21:37 frukoyurdakul: but, you deserved a kudos i can say that
2017-05-16 21:37 Skylish: thanks, you can always find me if the map has any other problems about timing
2017-05-16 21:37 Skylish: I am more than glad to help you
2017-05-16 21:38 frukoyurdakul: thanks :^) please post it to the thread
2017-05-16 21:38 Skylish: np
The above text's timing may not be the most accurate one, and it just went through the surface very quickly without deep checking.
Find me if you've still got any problems about timing