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Angel Vivaldi - Acid Reign [Taiko]

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frukoyurdakul
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Joined December 2015
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frukoyurdakul
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 19 Ağustos 2017 Cumartesi at 17:43:39

Artist: Angel Vivaldi
Title: Acid Reign
Tags: the speed of dark guitar solo marathon stream instrumental
BPM: 208
Filesize: 8240kb
Play Time: 05:16
Difficulties Available:
  1. Corroded (6,02 stars, 2630 notes)
Download: Angel Vivaldi - Acid Reign
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Angel Vivaldi official website: https://www.angelvivaldiofficial.com/
Angel Vivaldi merch: https://www.angelvivaldiofficial.com/merch

Taiko needs more styles like this.

Corroded: 100% completed. Open to mods!

Thanks to Grimbow about diffname and background suggestion!

Thanks to the modders!

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Last edited by frukoyurdakul , edited 27 times in total.
Vulkin
1,618 posts
Joined September 2014
Vulkin
thank for ++ <3

-General-
6 seconds of absolute nothingness at the beginning seems a bit odd w
and no kiai? D:

-Corroded-
00:56:738 - Why not kkkdkdd instead? follows the drums and the guitar a bit better
01:02:506 (450) - imo this would sound a bit better as a d, plus would have consistency with 01:05:824 (469) -
01:29:478 (660) - make this d?
03:02:794 (1425) - why not k on this one? too many d on that part imo
03:50:967 (1822) - This sounds strong enough for a finisher doesnt it?
03:56:160 (1863) - make this k?, follows the guitar better
04:07:409 (1993) - finisher?
04:26:376 (2180) - make this d, so the pitch raise on the guitar is more noticeable

I cant find that many things to fix, the map itself is pretty good
i like the song too owo
good luck!!!
frukoyurdakul
641 posts
Joined December 2015
Topic Starter
frukoyurdakul

Vulkin wrote:

thank for ++ <3

-General-
6 seconds of absolute nothingness at the beginning seems a bit odd w ikr
and no kiai? D: I find no places to put! The music is so changing

-Corroded-
00:56:738 - Why not kkkdkdd instead? follows the drums and the guitar a bit better Okay, applied
01:02:506 (450) - imo this would sound a bit better as a d, plus would have consistency with 01:05:824 (469) - Acceptable, but this section is too repetitive so I used kkddk, kdddk and ddddk at various places even if the drum sounds are going like ddddk.
01:29:478 (660) - make this d? Okay, the guitar sound is lower.
03:02:794 (1425) - why not k on this one? too many d on that part imo Yours applied. The change is on 03:02:650 (1424,1425) - these notes.
03:50:967 (1822) - This sounds strong enough for a finisher doesnt it? Previous note is removed and that note is filled with finisher now.
03:56:160 (1863) - make this k?, follows the guitar better Followed drums there.
04:07:409 (1993) - finisher? No need, there are a lot of crash cymbal sounds that I put notes without a finisher.
04:26:376 (2180) - make this d, so the pitch raise on the guitar is more noticeable That guitar note is higher than 04:26:304 (2178) - this one and i don't want dkkk like that, so i'm gonna keep 04:26:304 (2178,2179,2180,2181) - those as kkkk.

I cant find that many things to fix, the map itself is pretty good Thank you~
i like the song too owo Yea, me too!
good luck!!! Thank you for the mod!
Skylish
1,069 posts
Joined June 2013
Skylish
Timing discussion with fruko
2017-05-16 21:00 frukoyurdakul: Hello, can i ask something about a map's timing?
2017-05-16 21:00 Skylish: sure
2017-05-16 21:00 frukoyurdakul: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1288323 Angel Vivaldi - Acid Reign]
2017-05-16 21:00 frukoyurdakul: The map is this, and I'm concerned about some spots on the map
2017-05-16 21:01 frukoyurdakul: okay so
2017-05-16 21:02 frukoyurdakul: 00:48:077 -
2017-05-16 21:02 Skylish: what those spots?
2017-05-16 21:02 Skylish: (yay please continue)
2017-05-16 21:02 frukoyurdakul: on that spot, idk the BPM is correct
2017-05-16 21:02 frukoyurdakul: but it's definitely changing
2017-05-16 21:03 Skylish: 00:48:077 - this offset is wrong already
2017-05-16 21:03 frukoyurdakul: umm, how? i hit the notes perfectly
2017-05-16 21:04 Skylish: There's about ~15ms earlier for hitting the base drum
2017-05-16 21:05 frukoyurdakul: you're right the note is coming early
2017-05-16 21:06 Skylish: 00:48:091 - +4ms
2017-05-16 21:06 Skylish: around 48091~48095
2017-05-16 21:06 Skylish: but lemme check the BPM first
2017-05-16 21:06 frukoyurdakul: okay, im waiting
2017-05-16 21:06 Skylish: **I am using 48095 as the new start of red timing, give me some time
2017-05-16 21:13 Skylish: lol it is so hard to find the exact BPM
2017-05-16 21:14 frukoyurdakul: unfortunately :(
2017-05-16 21:14 frukoyurdakul: that spot is a bit inconsistent on the song
2017-05-16 21:14 Skylish: yeah
2017-05-16 21:14 frukoyurdakul: 202 is the best option that i've found so far
2017-05-16 21:14 Skylish: 00:50:453 - about this timing
2017-05-16 21:14 Skylish: 00:50:742 -
2017-05-16 21:14 Skylish: and these two
2017-05-16 21:14 Skylish: those off-beat 3/2 music are slower and slower
2017-05-16 21:15 Skylish: There are BPM shifting
2017-05-16 21:15 Skylish: I was struggling there
2017-05-16 21:15 Skylish: *the music is inconsistent as well :(
2017-05-16 21:16 frukoyurdakul: 00:50:418 -
2017-05-16 21:16 frukoyurdakul: on this one, i believe the BPM is not correct, it should be 207 or something
2017-05-16 21:17 frukoyurdakul: well, as in shifted to 50:453
2017-05-16 21:17 frukoyurdakul: but, if i do that
2017-05-16 21:17 frukoyurdakul: 00:50:850 (338,339,340,341) -
2017-05-16 21:17 frukoyurdakul: these will not come in time
2017-05-16 21:17 Skylish: yes I understand, let
2017-05-16 21:17 Skylish: let's try: 00:49:877 - put a BPM=208 here
2017-05-16 21:18 Skylish: 00:52:689 - another BPM=208 here
2017-05-16 21:18 Skylish: the music is currently 'well' snapped for me
2017-05-16 21:18 Skylish: at least there's not really huge error
2017-05-16 21:19 frukoyurdakul: i tested this map with OD 9
2017-05-16 21:19 frukoyurdakul: plus HD if the notes are coming right
2017-05-16 21:19 frukoyurdakul: and got 99.2 acc in total
2017-05-16 21:19 frukoyurdakul: and i played fine on these spots
2017-05-16 21:19 Skylish: ummm, personally I do not recommend using testplay to test the accuracy of offset and BPM, but it may be good for you
2017-05-16 21:20 Skylish: for now I can only offer these help for you
2017-05-16 21:20 frukoyurdakul: im mostly accurate
2017-05-16 21:20 frukoyurdakul: hmm, i was worried about one more thing
2017-05-16 21:20 frukoyurdakul: 03:13:468 -
2017-05-16 21:20 frukoyurdakul: i can't detect the measure resets
2017-05-16 21:21 Skylish: checking
2017-05-16 21:22 Skylish: after 03:41:737 - is fine
2017-05-16 21:22 frukoyurdakul: yeah,
2017-05-16 21:23 frukoyurdakul: it's actually between the two spots
2017-05-16 21:23 frukoyurdakul: forgot to mention that, sorry
2017-05-16 21:29 Skylish: https://puu.sh/vRKY5/77da7a89e8.png
2017-05-16 21:29 Skylish: finally
2017-05-16 21:30 Skylish: 03:13:468 - 5/4
2017-05-16 21:30 frukoyurdakul: the other ones are not neccessary then?
2017-05-16 21:30 Skylish: 03:25:871 - 3/4
2017-05-16 21:30 Skylish: 03:27:601 - 4/4
2017-05-16 21:30 Skylish: which one are you talking about?
2017-05-16 21:30 frukoyurdakul: 03:18:660 -
2017-05-16 21:30 Skylish: oh sorry
2017-05-16 21:30 frukoyurdakul: this one for example
2017-05-16 21:32 Skylish: 03:18:660 -
2017-05-16 21:32 frukoyurdakul: 03:25:583 - except this one I believe, i used it for omitting the bar line
2017-05-16 21:32 Skylish: Let me re-send the timing
2017-05-16 21:32 Skylish: to be clearer
2017-05-16 21:34 frukoyurdakul: okay
2017-05-16 21:34 Skylish: 03:13:468 - 5/4
2017-05-16 21:34 Skylish: 03:18:660 - 7/4
2017-05-16 21:34 frukoyurdakul: yup, fixed
2017-05-16 21:34 Skylish: 03:20:679 - 5/4 again
2017-05-16 21:35 Skylish: 03:25:871 - 3/4
2017-05-16 21:35 frukoyurdakul: yeah, i was thinking about it
2017-05-16 21:35 frukoyurdakul: wanna keep 6/4 there
2017-05-16 21:35 frukoyurdakul: i didn't use 3/4 on the map
2017-05-16 21:35 Skylish: 03:27:601 - then until here I think that'd be the second repetition of 03:13:468 -
2017-05-16 21:35 frukoyurdakul: yeah, makes sense
2017-05-16 21:36 Skylish: 03:25:871 - / 03:26:736 - extra clear and strong drum kicks here and there
2017-05-16 21:36 Skylish: so that'd be 3/4 for 03:25:871 -
2017-05-16 21:37 Skylish: after 03:27:601 - , you should check it by yourself, I am too lazy to check lol
2017-05-16 21:37 frukoyurdakul: yeah there is one spot more like that, and i'll fix it too
2017-05-16 21:37 Skylish: the mode of measure should be similar, yay :D
2017-05-16 21:37 frukoyurdakul: but, you deserved a kudos i can say that
2017-05-16 21:37 Skylish: thanks, you can always find me if the map has any other problems about timing
2017-05-16 21:37 Skylish: I am more than glad to help you
2017-05-16 21:38 frukoyurdakul: thanks :^) please post it to the thread
2017-05-16 21:38 Skylish: np

The above text's timing may not be the most accurate one, and it just went through the surface very quickly without deep checking.

Find me if you've still got any problems about timing :D
frukoyurdakul
641 posts
Joined December 2015
Topic Starter
frukoyurdakul

Skylish wrote:

Timing discussion with fruko
2017-05-16 21:00 frukoyurdakul: Hello, can i ask something about a map's timing?
2017-05-16 21:00 Skylish: sure
2017-05-16 21:00 frukoyurdakul: ACTION is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1288323 Angel Vivaldi - Acid Reign]
2017-05-16 21:00 frukoyurdakul: The map is this, and I'm concerned about some spots on the map
2017-05-16 21:01 frukoyurdakul: okay so
2017-05-16 21:02 frukoyurdakul: 00:48:077 -
2017-05-16 21:02 Skylish: what those spots?
2017-05-16 21:02 Skylish: (yay please continue)
2017-05-16 21:02 frukoyurdakul: on that spot, idk the BPM is correct
2017-05-16 21:02 frukoyurdakul: but it's definitely changing
2017-05-16 21:03 Skylish: 00:48:077 - this offset is wrong already
2017-05-16 21:03 frukoyurdakul: umm, how? i hit the notes perfectly
2017-05-16 21:04 Skylish: There's about ~15ms earlier for hitting the base drum
2017-05-16 21:05 frukoyurdakul: you're right the note is coming early
2017-05-16 21:06 Skylish: 00:48:091 - +4ms
2017-05-16 21:06 Skylish: around 48091~48095
2017-05-16 21:06 Skylish: but lemme check the BPM first
2017-05-16 21:06 frukoyurdakul: okay, im waiting
2017-05-16 21:06 Skylish: **I am using 48095 as the new start of red timing, give me some time
2017-05-16 21:13 Skylish: lol it is so hard to find the exact BPM
2017-05-16 21:14 frukoyurdakul: unfortunately :(
2017-05-16 21:14 frukoyurdakul: that spot is a bit inconsistent on the song
2017-05-16 21:14 Skylish: yeah
2017-05-16 21:14 frukoyurdakul: 202 is the best option that i've found so far
2017-05-16 21:14 Skylish: 00:50:453 - about this timing
2017-05-16 21:14 Skylish: 00:50:742 -
2017-05-16 21:14 Skylish: and these two
2017-05-16 21:14 Skylish: those off-beat 3/2 music are slower and slower
2017-05-16 21:15 Skylish: There are BPM shifting
2017-05-16 21:15 Skylish: I was struggling there
2017-05-16 21:15 Skylish: *the music is inconsistent as well :(
2017-05-16 21:16 frukoyurdakul: 00:50:418 -
2017-05-16 21:16 frukoyurdakul: on this one, i believe the BPM is not correct, it should be 207 or something
2017-05-16 21:17 frukoyurdakul: well, as in shifted to 50:453
2017-05-16 21:17 frukoyurdakul: but, if i do that
2017-05-16 21:17 frukoyurdakul: 00:50:850 (338,339,340,341) -
2017-05-16 21:17 frukoyurdakul: these will not come in time
2017-05-16 21:17 Skylish: yes I understand, let
2017-05-16 21:17 Skylish: let's try: 00:49:877 - put a BPM=208 here
2017-05-16 21:18 Skylish: 00:52:689 - another BPM=208 here
2017-05-16 21:18 Skylish: the music is currently 'well' snapped for me
2017-05-16 21:18 Skylish: at least there's not really huge error
2017-05-16 21:19 frukoyurdakul: i tested this map with OD 9
2017-05-16 21:19 frukoyurdakul: plus HD if the notes are coming right
2017-05-16 21:19 frukoyurdakul: and got 99.2 acc in total
2017-05-16 21:19 frukoyurdakul: and i played fine on these spots
2017-05-16 21:19 Skylish: ummm, personally I do not recommend using testplay to test the accuracy of offset and BPM, but it may be good for you
2017-05-16 21:20 Skylish: for now I can only offer these help for you
2017-05-16 21:20 frukoyurdakul: im mostly accurate
2017-05-16 21:20 frukoyurdakul: hmm, i was worried about one more thing
2017-05-16 21:20 frukoyurdakul: 03:13:468 -
2017-05-16 21:20 frukoyurdakul: i can't detect the measure resets
2017-05-16 21:21 Skylish: checking
2017-05-16 21:22 Skylish: after 03:41:737 - is fine
2017-05-16 21:22 frukoyurdakul: yeah,
2017-05-16 21:23 frukoyurdakul: it's actually between the two spots
2017-05-16 21:23 frukoyurdakul: forgot to mention that, sorry
2017-05-16 21:29 Skylish: https://puu.sh/vRKY5/77da7a89e8.png
2017-05-16 21:29 Skylish: finally
2017-05-16 21:30 Skylish: 03:13:468 - 5/4
2017-05-16 21:30 frukoyurdakul: the other ones are not neccessary then?
2017-05-16 21:30 Skylish: 03:25:871 - 3/4
2017-05-16 21:30 Skylish: 03:27:601 - 4/4
2017-05-16 21:30 Skylish: which one are you talking about?
2017-05-16 21:30 frukoyurdakul: 03:18:660 -
2017-05-16 21:30 Skylish: oh sorry
2017-05-16 21:30 frukoyurdakul: this one for example
2017-05-16 21:32 Skylish: 03:18:660 -
2017-05-16 21:32 frukoyurdakul: 03:25:583 - except this one I believe, i used it for omitting the bar line
2017-05-16 21:32 Skylish: Let me re-send the timing
2017-05-16 21:32 Skylish: to be clearer
2017-05-16 21:34 frukoyurdakul: okay
2017-05-16 21:34 Skylish: 03:13:468 - 5/4
2017-05-16 21:34 Skylish: 03:18:660 - 7/4
2017-05-16 21:34 frukoyurdakul: yup, fixed
2017-05-16 21:34 Skylish: 03:20:679 - 5/4 again
2017-05-16 21:35 Skylish: 03:25:871 - 3/4
2017-05-16 21:35 frukoyurdakul: yeah, i was thinking about it
2017-05-16 21:35 frukoyurdakul: wanna keep 6/4 there
2017-05-16 21:35 frukoyurdakul: i didn't use 3/4 on the map
2017-05-16 21:35 Skylish: 03:27:601 - then until here I think that'd be the second repetition of 03:13:468 -
2017-05-16 21:35 frukoyurdakul: yeah, makes sense
2017-05-16 21:36 Skylish: 03:25:871 - / 03:26:736 - extra clear and strong drum kicks here and there
2017-05-16 21:36 Skylish: so that'd be 3/4 for 03:25:871 -
2017-05-16 21:37 Skylish: after 03:27:601 - , you should check it by yourself, I am too lazy to check lol
2017-05-16 21:37 frukoyurdakul: yeah there is one spot more like that, and i'll fix it too
2017-05-16 21:37 Skylish: the mode of measure should be similar, yay :D
2017-05-16 21:37 frukoyurdakul: but, you deserved a kudos i can say that
2017-05-16 21:37 Skylish: thanks, you can always find me if the map has any other problems about timing
2017-05-16 21:37 Skylish: I am more than glad to help you
2017-05-16 21:38 frukoyurdakul: thanks :^) please post it to the thread
2017-05-16 21:38 Skylish: np

The above text's timing may not be the most accurate one, and it just went through the surface very quickly without deep checking.

Find me if you've still got any problems about timing :D I will find you, don't worry :3 thanks for the help!
Fixed timing as we discussed with Skylish. Also, changed something small.

04:44:188 (2340,2341,2342) - Changed to ddk due to the guitar sound.
Alchyr
503 posts
Joined October 2014
Alchyr
this is for a m4m

probaby mostly subjective opinions but whatever


modder wrote:

Corroded
00:23:702 (85,86,87,88,89,90,91,92,93,94,95,96,97,98,99,100,101) - sounds more like ddkkkkddkkkkddkkdd to me

00:29:615 (136,137,138,139,140,141,142,143,144,145) - possibly change 00:30:192 (140) - and 00:30:913 (144) - to k to emphasize higher pitch of guitar here relative to 00:25:000 (102,103,104,105,106,107,108,109,110,111) -

00:32:933 (158,159,160) - maybe dkk because guitar sounds like it's increasing in pitch here

00:42:308 (256,257,258,259,260,261,262,263,264,265,266,267,268,269,270) - this stream doesn't quite feel like it matches the guitar/drum sound behind it
possibly change pattern in a way that makes 00:43:173 (268,269,270) - into kkd to emphasize descending guitar slider sound along with drums

01:34:814 (690) - k for guitar?

02:02:651 (920,921,922) - Do something to emphasize the three guitar sounds here? they're really prominent and hard to ignore

03:04:814 (1443,1444,1445,1446) - maybe move kkkk here since this is where high sound starts, then 03:05:102 (1447,1448) - dd and then 03:05:246 (1449) - k for start of descending guitar

03:55:006 (1858,1859,1860,1861,1862,1863,1864,1865) - why map this like this when 03:52:698 (1836,1837,1838,1839,1840,1841,1842,1843,1844) - this is mapped like this, as is the one after it?

04:18:659 (2111,2112) - maybe kdk (resulting in ddkdk)

04:58:034 (2492,2493,2494,2495,2496,2497,2498,2499) - 04:59:477 (2512,2513,2514,2515,2516,2517,2518,2519) - what are these kks mapped to? It's playable, but it felt a bit weird.

Fun map
frukoyurdakul
641 posts
Joined December 2015
Topic Starter
frukoyurdakul

Alchyr wrote:

this is for a m4m

probaby mostly subjective opinions but whatever


modder wrote:

Corroded
00:23:702 (85,86,87,88,89,90,91,92,93,94,95,96,97,98,99,100,101) - sounds more like ddkkkkddkkkkddkkdd to me :arrow: 00:23:846 (87,88,89,90) - These 4 are snares, 00:24:135 (91,92,93,94) - these 4 are kicks and 00:24:423 (95,96,97,98) - these 4 are snares again. So i'll keep this one.

00:29:615 (136,137,138,139,140,141,142,143,144,145) - possibly change 00:30:192 (140) - and 00:30:913 (144) - to k to emphasize higher pitch of guitar here relative to 00:25:000 (102,103,104,105,106,107,108,109,110,111) - :arrow: The guitar pitchs are already lower than the previous ones, and there are kick sounds on them so I'll keep these ones too.

00:32:933 (158,159,160) - maybe dkk because guitar sounds like it's increasing in pitch here :arrow: Followed drums on this spot.

00:42:308 (256,257,258,259,260,261,262,263,264,265,266,267,268,269,270) - this stream doesn't quite feel like it matches the guitar/drum sound behind it
possibly change pattern in a way that makes 00:43:173 (268,269,270) - into kkd to emphasize descending guitar slider sound along with drums :arrow: 6 kat notes in a row makes it even worse, plus 00:42:668 (261,269) - these 2 kat notes have been put for variation.

01:34:814 (690) - k for guitar? :arrow: The kick sound on drums is more prominent, so I'll keep it as a don.

02:02:651 (920,921,922) - Do something to emphasize the three guitar sounds here? they're really prominent and hard to ignore :arrow: 02:02:939 - Added a kat here.

03:04:814 (1443,1444,1445,1446) - maybe move kkkk here since this is where high sound starts, then 03:05:102 (1447,1448) - dd and then 03:05:246 (1449) - k for start of descending guitar :arrow: Applied, also 03:05:463 (1452,1453) - these are swapped.

03:55:006 (1858,1859,1860,1861,1862,1863,1864,1865) - why map this like this when 03:52:698 (1836,1837,1838,1839,1840,1841,1842,1843,1844) - this is mapped like this, as is the one after it? Because second one is following guitar while the first one is following drums.

04:18:659 (2111,2112) - maybe kdk (resulting in ddkdk) :arrow: ddkkd is better imo. Added k only.

04:58:034 (2492,2493,2494,2495,2496,2497,2498,2499) - 04:59:477 (2512,2513,2514,2515,2516,2517,2518,2519) - what are these kks mapped to? It's playable, but it felt a bit weird. :arrow: It's for variation. The patterns in this song are so simple, so I added some complex parts.

Fun map Thanks! :)
Thanks for the mod. Will mod yours in a day.
Shadowa Pinkman
952 posts
Joined March 2013
Shadowa Pinkman
irc mod is cool
04:22 *frukoyurdakul is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1320723 Arch Enemy - Nemesis]
04:22 zigizigiefe: bateriye uyuyor
04:22 *frukoyurdakul is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1288323 Angel Vivaldi - Acid Reign]
04:22 frukoyurdakul: şu ikisine mod bulmam lazım
04:22 frukoyurdakul: raiden hazır m4m yaparken
04:23 frukoyurdakul: birinden birini test ettirmeliyim
04:23 zigizigiefe: acid reign 
04:23 zigizigiefe: en mantıklısı
04:23 frukoyurdakul: ikinci map için çok az mod almışsın dedi
04:23 frukoyurdakul: hak da verdim ama
04:23 zigizigiefe: e gel irc mod yapayım abi
04:23 frukoyurdakul: map de iyi amk
04:23 frukoyurdakul: olur
04:23 frukoyurdakul: vaktim var
04:24 frukoyurdakul: bazı yerlerde eklediğim soundlar var, patternlar düzgün gözüksün diye ekledim
04:24 frukoyurdakul: haberin olsun, oraları atla
04:24 *zigizigiefe is editing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1288323 Angel Vivaldi - Acid Reign [Corroded]]
04:24 zigizigiefe: custom hitsound yok valla şskfjgsşkfdj
04:24 zigizigiefe: bir şey soracağım mape girsene
04:24 frukoyurdakul: yok, sounddan kastım nota
04:24 frukoyurdakul: mapteyim
04:25 zigizigiefe: 00:11:154 (10,11) - şu iki bateri sesi aynı,burayı niye kdddk yaptın diyeceğim de şöyle bir tahmin yaptım:
04:25 zigizigiefe: 00:12:308 (15,16,17,18,19) - bunun o patternden daha yoğun olduğunu göstermek için birini kdddk diğerini kkddk yaptın,değil mi
04:25 frukoyurdakul: ilkinde crash cymbal var
04:25 frukoyurdakul: evet
04:25 frukoyurdakul: ikisinin arasındaki farkın temel sebebi o
04:26 zigizigiefe: 00:15:481 (25) - burada crash cymbal yok mu
04:26 frukoyurdakul: var aslında
04:26 frukoyurdakul: dur bi deneyeyim finisher
04:26 zigizigiefe: finisher ile hoş olur
04:27 frukoyurdakul: tamam fena gitmedi
04:27 frukoyurdakul: koydum
04:27 frukoyurdakul: ses güçlü değil gibi ama
04:28 zigizigiefe: güzel güzel
04:28 frukoyurdakul: dursun öyle şimdilik
04:30 zigizigiefe: ben çay koyup geleyim
04:30 frukoyurdakul: tamam sen moda devam et :D
04:36 zigizigiefe: kusura bakma
04:36 zigizigiefe: tuvalete gitmiştim dfşkhjgfsdj
04:37 frukoyurdakul: elimde bir sorun var
04:37 zigizigiefe: ne sorunu
04:37 frukoyurdakul: baş parmağımla bilek arasında bi kıvrım var ya
04:37 frukoyurdakul: orası kasılıyor arada sırada
04:38 zigizigiefe: hadi be
04:38 frukoyurdakul: deceit oynadıktan sonra oldu
04:38 zigizigiefe: oynarken bileğini değil kollarını hareket ettir
04:38 zigizigiefe: o zaman birazcık dinlen
04:38 frukoyurdakul: dinleniyorum zaten
04:38 zigizigiefe: en son 400bpm stream denememden sonra iki kolum da ağrıyordu
04:38 frukoyurdakul: he sen devam et
04:38 frukoyurdakul: kol ağrısı başka, elimin o kısmı istemsiz kasılıyor ama şu an
04:39 zigizigiefe: kramp falan mı
04:39 frukoyurdakul: ağrı yok
04:39 frukoyurdakul: sen sonra modla mapi
04:39 frukoyurdakul: ya da post mod yap
04:39 zigizigiefe: bir önerim var ama kabul etmek zorunda değilsin
04:39 frukoyurdakul: ben kendimi iyi hissetmiyorum yatıcam
04:39 frukoyurdakul: hadi görüşürüz
04:40 zigizigiefe: post mod ile çok fazla öneri veremem
04:40 zigizigiefe: unutmadan şuna bak bari
04:43 zigizigiefe: noldu :D
04:43 frukoyurdakul: tamam iyiyim şimdi
04:44 frukoyurdakul: aniden midem falan bulandı
04:44 frukoyurdakul: ama temiz hava alınca düzeldim
04:44 zigizigiefe: bir öneri vereceğim,test edince güzel durdu ama kabul etmek zorunda değilsin
04:44 zigizigiefe: geçmiş olsun 
04:44 frukoyurdakul: eyvallah
04:44 frukoyurdakul: he söyle
04:44 zigizigiefe: 00:25:000 (102) - şuraya kat finisher eklemeye ne dersin,high pitch gitar ile güzel duyuluyor
04:45 zigizigiefe: hem ddd ile biten bir streamden sonraki kat ile de flow iyileşir
04:45 frukoyurdakul: 00:33:942 (166) -
04:45 frukoyurdakul: şurası için desen anlarım
04:45 frukoyurdakul: ama orada çok da ince bi gitar sesi yok
04:45 frukoyurdakul: dediğim yeri de kat mapledim zaten
04:47 zigizigiefe: 00:39:087 (232) - şurada bateri sesi duyduğuma emin değilim
04:47 frukoyurdakul: orası 1/6
04:47 frukoyurdakul: dikkatli dinle
04:47 zigizigiefe: 00:38:990 (230,231) - şurada 1/6 duydum ama 00:39:087 (232) - burada var mı emin değilim
04:47 frukoyurdakul: %75 hız en iyisidir sound duyma konusunda
04:48 frukoyurdakul: var, o yüzden o şekilde mapledim
04:48 zigizigiefe: 00:43:101 (267,268) - şurayı ctrl+g yapmanı öneririm
04:48 zigizigiefe: 00:43:173 (268,269,270) - buradaki gitar sesini belirtmiş olursun
04:49 frukoyurdakul: mantıklı
04:49 frukoyurdakul: tamamdır
04:49 zigizigiefe: 00:50:418 (334) - buradaki gitar da don koyulacak kadar kalın geldi
04:50 zigizigiefe: moddan sonra hatırlat da kiai koyulabilecek yerleri gösteririm
04:50 frukoyurdakul: 00:50:418 (334,336) -
04:50 frukoyurdakul: bu ikisinin sesi aynı
04:50 frukoyurdakul: dkdd yapmam, kkkd en iyisi
04:50 zigizigiefe: dkkd demek istemiştim
04:50 frukoyurdakul: tamam işte
04:50 frukoyurdakul: o ikisini aynı maplerim
04:50 zigizigiefe: 00:58:685 (420) - bunu 00:58:973 - buraya taşımaya ne dersin
04:51 zigizigiefe: d d k ddk d kkd daha güzel bir flow yaratıyor sanki
04:51 frukoyurdakul: 00:50:418 (334,336,338) -
04:51 frukoyurdakul: şu üçündeki gitar sesleri aynı yani
04:51 zigizigiefe: %75'te dinleyince de gitarın o hissi verdiğini düşünüyorum
04:51 frukoyurdakul: neden olmasın
04:51 frukoyurdakul: değiştirdim ikincisini
04:51 frukoyurdakul: ama ilki kkkd kalacak
04:52 zigizigiefe: tamam tamam np
04:52 frukoyurdakul: gitar sesleri dediğim gibi aynı
04:52 zigizigiefe: en azından modumuzu geliştirmişiz :D
04:52 frukoyurdakul: eh :D
04:52 frukoyurdakul: ben mantıklı olanları kabul ederim zaten
04:52 zigizigiefe: 01:02:579 - burada bateri sesi duydum da 01:02:506 (450) - burada yok sanki
04:53 zigizigiefe: 01:02:506 (450,451) - şu ikisini silmeni öneririm,en azından baterinin sakinliğini göstermiş olur
04:53 frukoyurdakul: yok, kick sesi var
04:53 frukoyurdakul: ddddk maplediğim yerler devar
04:53 zigizigiefe: dur bekle test edeyim
04:53 frukoyurdakul: hmm dur
04:53 zigizigiefe: şahsen bana ikisi de uydu 
04:53 frukoyurdakul: hani başta dedim ya ek nota eklemiş olabilirim diye
04:54 zigizigiefe: evet
04:54 frukoyurdakul: 01:02:506 (450,451) -
04:54 frukoyurdakul: ikincisinde kick sound var
04:54 frukoyurdakul: ama ilkinde yok
04:54 zigizigiefe: fark ettim
04:54 frukoyurdakul: dddk çok garip duruyor 1/4 olunca
04:54 frukoyurdakul: o yüzden kdddk mapledim
04:54 zigizigiefe: ddk olsun diye düşünüyorum
04:54 zigizigiefe: bateri diğerlerine göre daha sakin
04:54 frukoyurdakul: sound atlamayı sevmem pek
04:54 frukoyurdakul: overmap yaptığım yerler var
04:54 frukoyurdakul: o yüzden orjinal soundları mapliyorum hep
04:55 zigizigiefe: 01:07:122 (475) - finisher bateriye göre daha hoş durabilir
04:55 frukoyurdakul: crash cymbal bütün patternda var
04:55 frukoyurdakul: oranın ayrı ek bir sesi yok
04:56 zigizigiefe: 01:08:853 - twin pedal ve 1/4 gitar olmasına rağmen niye full stream yapmadın merak ediyorum
04:56 frukoyurdakul: twin pedal yok çünkü
04:56 frukoyurdakul: bateriyi dinle adam gibi :D
04:56 frukoyurdakul: 1/2 sesler var
04:57 frukoyurdakul: stream olan kısımlar var, baterinin farkını orada anlarsın
04:57 zigizigiefe: haa
04:57 zigizigiefe: %25'te dinlediğimi sanıyorum
04:57 zigizigiefe: %50 imiş
04:58 zigizigiefe: 01:24:502 - bateriyi niye atladın
04:59 frukoyurdakul: bilmiyorum duymamışım
04:59 zigizigiefe: 01:29:622 (659) - hi hat mı crash cymbal mı
04:59 zigizigiefe: kat finisher pls
04:59 frukoyurdakul: 01:24:357 (631) -
04:59 frukoyurdakul: şunu taşıdım oraya
04:59 zigizigiefe: daha iyi
04:59 frukoyurdakul: crash ama don finisher yeterli
05:00 zigizigiefe: 01:32:795 (677) - burada crash'i kat finisher ile belirtmişsin
05:00 zigizigiefe: orada da hoş durabilir
05:00 frukoyurdakul: ikisinin tonu farklı bka
05:00 frukoyurdakul: bak*
05:00 frukoyurdakul: birisi daha ince, birisi daha kalın
05:00 frukoyurdakul: burada kalın olan var
05:00 frukoyurdakul: don koymamın sebebi o
05:00 zigizigiefe: 01:45:199 - bateriyi gözden geçir
05:01 zigizigiefe: mantıklı
05:01 frukoyurdakul: orada bateriden ziyade gitarı takip ettim
05:01 frukoyurdakul: kkkkddkkkkdd yapmak istemedim
05:02 zigizigiefe: 02:03:300 - 1/4 gitar?
05:02 frukoyurdakul: slide, 1/4 sayılmaz
05:02 zigizigiefe: triplet güzel durdu oraya bence
05:02 frukoyurdakul: 1/2 kalması daha iyi
05:02 zigizigiefe: test etmeni öneririm
05:03 frukoyurdakul: böyle daha iyi bence
05:03 frukoyurdakul: denedim triplet, fazla gibi geliyor
05:04 zigizigiefe: 02:37:987 (1219,1220,1221,1222) - fazla overmapped gibi 
05:04 zigizigiefe: ne 1/6 bateri var ne de gitar
05:04 zigizigiefe: neyi belirttin anlamadım
05:04 frukoyurdakul: önceden 1/8 doublet vardı
05:04 zigizigiefe: hatırlıyorum
05:04 frukoyurdakul: tremolo sesi var a
05:04 frukoyurdakul: ya*
05:04 frukoyurdakul: onu belirtmek istedim
05:05 frukoyurdakul: aslında %75 te dinlerken gitar 1/6 gibi duyuluyor
05:05 zigizigiefe: biliyorum
05:05 zigizigiefe: %100'de de öyle duydum
05:05 zigizigiefe: sanki 1/6 quintuplet 02:38:131 - burada olmalı gibi
05:05 zigizigiefe: dur deneyeyim
05:05 frukoyurdakul: beat üzerinde olması daha iyi olur
05:06 frukoyurdakul: off beat 1/6 çok garip kaçabilir
05:06 frukoyurdakul: hem ses de oradan başlıyor
05:06 frukoyurdakul: bence şu anki yeri daha mantıklı
05:06 zigizigiefe: fark etmez bana :D
05:07 zigizigiefe: bu arada bir ara soldiers of the wasteland'in üzerinde dur
05:07 zigizigiefe: o da ranked olur kşsfjgsdkşaj
05:07 frukoyurdakul: yok be
05:07 frukoyurdakul: dragonforce bitti benim için
05:07 frukoyurdakul: bir tane ranked var yeter
05:07 zigizigiefe: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/8414743
05:08 frukoyurdakul: lül
05:08 zigizigiefe: benimki qualified olunca kimse siklememişti
05:08 frukoyurdakul: olsun be
05:08 frukoyurdakul: sen moda devam et
05:08 frukoyurdakul: bunu sonra konuşuruz
05:09 zigizigiefe: adam geldi std maplesene orospu evladı dedi ya
05:09 zigizigiefe: qewpıruqpırqw
05:09 frukoyurdakul: bu arada #taiko ya baksana
05:09 frukoyurdakul: alsjdaslkjassd
05:09 zigizigiefe: 03:22:626 (1588) - high pitch gitar
05:09 zigizigiefe: dkd yapmaya ne dersin,değişiklik olur hem
05:09 frukoyurdakul: üç ses de aynı
05:09 frukoyurdakul: ddd iyi gidiyor
05:09 frukoyurdakul: haa
05:09 frukoyurdakul: evet ufak bir fark var aralarında
05:10 frukoyurdakul: ama ddd daha iyi gibi
05:10 zigizigiefe: güzel olabilir dkd
05:10 zigizigiefe: ddd k ddd giderse variety'nin ne anlamı var :D
05:10 frukoyurdakul: o kısım kısa zaten
05:10 frukoyurdakul: ben kdk den çok dkk düşünüyorum
05:11 frukoyurdakul: gitar sesine bakılırsa
05:11 zigizigiefe: timingde bir şey fark ettim
05:11 frukoyurdakul: ama uymaz gibi geliyor
05:11 frukoyurdakul: yok oranın timingi doğru
05:11 frukoyurdakul: skylish ile beraber yaptık
05:11 zigizigiefe: 03:31:639 - 4/4 kırmızı çizgi ekle
05:11 zigizigiefe: biraz geriden başla dinlemeye anlayacaksın
05:13 frukoyurdakul: timingi sonra kontrol ettiririm
05:13 frukoyurdakul: sen notalara bak şimdilik
05:14 zigizigiefe: dur içimde kalmasın şunu da söyleyeyim:
05:14 zigizigiefe: 03:34:813 - burası 4/4 olacak 03:35:966 - buraya da 5/4 kırmızı ekle
05:15 frukoyurdakul: bir ara tabını bulursam düzelteceğim oranın timingini
05:15 zigizigiefe: 03:44:405 - bu sesi atlaman kötü durmuş
05:15 zigizigiefe: kkdkd falan hani
05:15 frukoyurdakul: aynen oraya bi kat gider
05:16 frukoyurdakul: güzel yakaladın bunu bak
05:17 zigizigiefe: 03:52:770 (1835,1839) - şu iki notayı silip k kdk kdk k gibi bir flow buradaki sesin anormalliğini daha güzel açıklar
05:18 zigizigiefe: millet diyecek ne kadar garip bir flow lan bu diye.sonra anlayacaklar meğer gitarın akışı garipmiş
05:18 frukoyurdakul: yok ya
05:19 frukoyurdakul: öyle ikisini silince de çok boş kaldı
05:19 zigizigiefe: 03:59:405 (1896) - bateri 
05:19 frukoyurdakul: gitara uydurdum orayı
05:19 zigizigiefe: bateri oldukça güçlü
05:20 zigizigiefe: 04:07:841 (1998) - yapma bana bunu lütfen
05:20 zigizigiefe: kalın gitar ve kick sound
05:20 frukoyurdakul: 3:59 u değiştirdim
05:20 frukoyurdakul: diğerine bakıyorum dur
05:20 frukoyurdakul: orası biraz random sayılır
05:21 zigizigiefe: yapma işte
05:21 frukoyurdakul: bateri full kdkdkdkdkdkdkd gidiyor
05:21 frukoyurdakul: ona göre uzun ve random patternlar ayarladım gitara da uyacak şekilde
05:21 frukoyurdakul: stream yapmaktansa böyle bir şey izledim
05:22 zigizigiefe: 1/3 gitar? 04:18:659 - 
05:22 frukoyurdakul: 1/4 gibi geliyor bana
05:22 frukoyurdakul: 1/3 bile olsa onu oraya koymam
05:22 frukoyurdakul: mapte belki de hiç 1/3 nota yok
05:22 frukoyurdakul: direk yapısına aykırı
05:23 frukoyurdakul: 04:19:525 (2121,2122,2123) - şu üçü gibi yapmaya çalışmıştır muhtemelen
05:23 frukoyurdakul: ilkini 1/3 maplememin bir anlamı yok o yüzden
05:23 zigizigiefe: mantıklı
05:24 zigizigiefe: 04:27:962 (2204) - snare yok
05:24 frukoyurdakul: aynen, don yaptım
05:24 zigizigiefe: bu map ranked olsa orada sıçardım 
05:25 zigizigiefe: o yüzden değiştirttim çaktırma
05:25 frukoyurdakul: yok lan haklısın ama
05:25 zigizigiefe: biliyorum :D
05:25 frukoyurdakul: snare sesi yok, kat olması için bir sebep de yok
05:25 zigizigiefe: o yüzden dikkatlice inceledim
05:25 zigizigiefe: 04:41:304 (2318) - burada da snare yok gibi geldi,varsa da çok güçlü değil
05:25 zigizigiefe: varsa da varlığını hissettirmiyor :D
05:25 frukoyurdakul: yok orada var
05:25 frukoyurdakul: :D
05:26 frukoyurdakul: biraz sessiz, yanındakine göre
05:26 zigizigiefe: 04:45:486 (2356,2357,2358) - bu gitarlarda hep kdk kullanmışsın
05:26 zigizigiefe: (dddk)dk daha zor mu olur diye böyle yaptın
05:27 frukoyurdakul: hepsinde öyle kullanmadım
05:27 zigizigiefe: 04:58:034 - bak yine geldi amına kodumun kkdkkdkk patternı
05:27 frukoyurdakul: iki nota arasındaki farka göre kdk, dkd ve kkd kullandım
05:27 frukoyurdakul: ha yoo
05:27 zigizigiefe: burayı böyle tutmak için bir sebep yok :D
05:27 frukoyurdakul: tamam değiştirdim 04:45 i
05:28 frukoyurdakul: orası pp yeri
05:28 frukoyurdakul: askldjaskljaskas
05:28 zigizigiefe: yapma işte değiş şunu :D
05:28 zigizigiefe: mapin sonunda sıçacam bunun yüzünden
05:28 frukoyurdakul: 04:58:179 (2496,2497) - ctrl g yaptım
05:29 frukoyurdakul: 04:59:621 (2516,2517) -
05:29 zigizigiefe: 04:59:837 (2516,2517) - 
05:29 frukoyurdakul: bu ikisine de aynı
05:29 frukoyurdakul: hallettim orayı da
05:29 frukoyurdakul: püü 6 star oldu map
05:29 frukoyurdakul: askljaskljasd
05:30 zigizigiefe: :D
05:30 zigizigiefe: 04:55:871 - kiai pls
05:30 zigizigiefe: 05:02:794 - ta buraya kadar kiai 
05:30 frukoyurdakul: seni mi kıracam, koydum
05:30 zigizigiefe: 00:52:699 - gitar yoğunlaşıyor ama koymana gerek yok
05:31 frukoyurdakul: bence de
05:31 frukoyurdakul: şarkı full gitar solo zaten
05:32 zigizigiefe: 02:38:852 - k i a i 
05:32 zigizigiefe: 02:45:775 - ta buraya kadar
05:32 frukoyurdakul: 7 saniye kiai biraz kısa değil mi ya
05:32 zigizigiefe: ben 2-3 saniyelik kiailer gördüm
05:32 frukoyurdakul: ikincisi için de
05:33 frukoyurdakul: koydum madem
05:33 zigizigiefe: 04:00:198 - burada güzel olur mu ki
05:33 zigizigiefe: kiai falan hani 
05:34 frukoyurdakul: olabilir bak
05:34 frukoyurdakul: orası epey sağlam
05:34 zigizigiefe: 04:14:332 - burada bitince diğer parta geçişler arası güzel olur
05:34 frukoyurdakul: tamam koydum
05:34 zigizigiefe: upload et de görelim mapin güzelliğini
05:35 frukoyurdakul: tamamdır
05:35 *zigizigiefe is playing [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1288323 Angel Vivaldi - Acid Reign [Corroded]] <Taiko>
05:35 frukoyurdakul: seni de izleyeyim yatıcam
05:40 zigizigiefe: kdkdkdkdkdkdk yapamayan efenin dramı
05:40 frukoyurdakul: l
05:40 frukoyurdakul: lül
Remus
452 posts
Joined July 2015
Remus
Hello. M4M :>

[Corroded]
  1. 00:36:538 (198) - looks like you can put kat here to not start next section of stream with 00:36:538 (198,200,202) - don, where other similar sounds are kats.
  2. 00:41:947 - can't hear triple hear, but it's ok.
  3. 00:48:389 (321) - don to emphasize 00:48:536 (322) - , because they are different and kk will break that emphasizing.
  4. 00:50:300 - feel lack of note here. I can't say what exactly you should do, but maybe something like putting here kat? But in other case, it will hard to properly read here, so idk.
  5. 00:53:204 (362,363) - swap them. I think it will be fine, emphasizing guitar here.
  6. 00:54:358 (374,375) - same as above. 00:54:286 (373,375) - similar sounds and don between them contrasting well.
  7. 01:16:353 (550,551) - are they really necessary? There is no sound here.
  8. 01:22:193 (603,604) - swapping them wiil emphasize the lasting guitar sound at 01:22:121 (602,603) - . 01:22:265 (604) - has lower tonality.
  9. 01:31:641 (671,672) - similar. Both kats maybe?
  10. 01:36:256 (699,700) - swap them? Again, emphasize 01:36:545 (701) - that big don.
  11. 01:45:199 (763,764,765,766,767,768,769) - what about kdkkddk here? 01:45:487 (767,768) - are clearly dons for me.
  12. 02:13:828 - miss kat here.
  13. 02:45:270 (1316) - kat maybe?
  14. 03:17:073 (1546) - don here due to overall rhythmics of that part.
  15. 03:23:996 (1599) - same as above.
  16. 03:31:496 (1664) - expecting something like kat here, but i am not sure.
  17. 03:45:631 (1784) - don for emphasizing 03:45:775 - kat?
  18. 03:47:362 (1796) - why kat here? I think don is better.
  19. 04:06:976 (1989) - kat will be better, if you listen to it .
  20. 04:18:804 - didn't you think about 1/3 here?
It is already mapped well, couldn't find any very objective things to fix.
Cool map, good luck o/
frukoyurdakul
641 posts
Joined December 2015
Topic Starter
frukoyurdakul

Remus wrote:

Hello. M4M :>

[Corroded]
  1. 00:36:538 (198) - looks like you can put kat here to not start next section of stream with 00:36:538 (198,200,202) - don, where other similar sounds are kats. :arrow: The main reason I'm putting a don here is because I wanted to make it consistent with 00:34:231 (167) - this.
  2. 00:41:947 - can't hear triple hear, but it's ok. :arrow: It's for keeping the stanza consistent, because I also have a triplet 00:39:856 (237,238,239) - here.
  3. 00:48:389 (321) - don to emphasize 00:48:536 (322) - , because they are different and kk will break that emphasizing. :arrow: If this one will be mentioned again, I'll change it, I'm keeping it as kat due to the snare sound for now.
  4. 00:50:300 - feel lack of note here. I can't say what exactly you should do, but maybe something like putting here kat? But in other case, it will hard to properly read here, so idk. :arrow: As you said, if I put a note here it will be hard to read, because the BPM is changing hence the slider velocity. That break was intentional.
  5. 00:53:204 (362,363) - swap them. I think it will be fine, emphasizing guitar here. :arrow: It already does it, the sound on 362nd note is low pitched compared to 363rd one.
  6. 00:54:358 (374,375) - same as above. 00:54:286 (373,375) - similar sounds and don between them contrasting well. :arrow: To make it consistent, I applied ctrl + g on those two, now they're both kdk.
  7. 01:16:353 (550,551) - are they really necessary? There is no sound here. :arrow: Because of 01:15:487 (544,545,546,547,548) - these and 01:14:622 (538,539,540,541,542) - these, yes. I know there is no sound on them, but also there is no sound on 01:16:569 (553) - this one too. I just put a 5-plet to provide a better structure.
  8. 01:22:193 (603,604) - swapping them wiil emphasize the lasting guitar sound at 01:22:121 (602,603) - . 01:22:265 (604) - has lower tonality. :arrow: This one sounded pretty good. Nice suggestion, applied.
  9. 01:31:641 (671,672) - similar. Both kats maybe? :arrow: It's following drums already, I think it sounds fine.
  10. 01:36:256 (699,700) - swap them? Again, emphasize 01:36:545 (701) - that big don. :arrow: The kat sound is already on a snare sound and a high-pitched guitar, and the don sound is on kick sound, which is appropriate.
  11. 01:45:199 (763,764,765,766,767,768,769) - what about kdkkddk here? 01:45:487 (767,768) - are clearly dons for me. :arrow: Okay,
    changed.
  12. 02:13:828 - miss kat here. :arrow: I couldn't hear a proper sound.
  13. 02:45:270 (1316) - kat maybe? :arrow: The usage of every kat is intentional. I have 3-plet kats by 2, 2-plet kats by 2 and single kat by 2.
    Although because I'm not changing it due to the drum sound.
  14. 03:17:073 (1546) - don here due to overall rhythmics of that part. :arrow: Yeah, I don't see why not.
  15. 03:23:996 (1599) - same as above. :arrow: Also applied.
  16. 03:31:496 (1664) - expecting something like kat here, but i am not sure. :arrow: No need, the drums are not supporting it since I'm following them.
  17. 03:45:631 (1784) - don for emphasizing 03:45:775 - kat? :arrow: Makes sense.
  18. 03:47:362 (1796) - why kat here? I think don is better. :arrow: Yup, that's better. Creates a better flow since I didn't use kats on red ticks at that section.
  19. 04:06:976 (1989) - kat will be better, if you listen to it . :arrow: Disagreed, the drums sound pretty well with this pattern.
  20. 04:18:804 - didn't you think about 1/3 here? :arrow: The sound is in 1/4, plus I didn't use 1/3 on the whole map and I don't want to break the structure.
It is already mapped well, couldn't find any very objective things to fix.
Cool map, good luck o/ :arrow: Thank you for your mod :^)
Surono
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Joined November 2013
Surono
ok you won(t xd) sir
Hanjamon
1,461 posts
Joined June 2012
Hanjamon
Hey fruko, here is my m4m.

  • d=Don
    D=Big Don
    k=Katsu
    K=Big Katsu
[General]
  1. Consider adding some tags
[Corroded]
  1. 00:29:471 (135,136) - swap these notes? finishing the stream with d and following the next with k fits good imo.
  2. 00:45:769 - from here to 00:46:635 - how about - d kkd kdkkdk ? for some reason it sounds better for me.
  3. 00:55:800 - move this note to 00:55:656 - ? so it looks more consistent with the ending of 00:55:151 - and 00:56:305 - .
  4. 01:03:805 - change to k to empathize with the drums like 01:03:660 - ?
  5. 01:05:535 - if you applied ^ same here?
  6. 01:12:314 - change to K? fits really with the guitar.
  7. 01:14:189 - same as 01:05:535 - , change to k?
  8. 01:19:237 - add finisher for consistency with 01:12:314 - ?
  9. 01:34:381 (687,688,689,690) - change from d d d d to k d d k? it fits good imo.
  10. 03:02:434 - change to k? a dkd fits really good there imo.
  11. 03:13:468 - lol, from here to 03:18:660 - it feels like you are playing with custom hitsounds xD.
  12. 03:41:592 - change to k like you did in 03:41:447 - ?
  13. 04:23:275 - changing 04:23:275 - and 04:23:563 - to k fits good with the guitar imo.
  14. 04:25:006 - change to k for the same reason of the guitar?
  15. 04:38:131 - change this note to d and 04:38:275 - to k? they sound better for me.
That's all from me, osu! needs more metal, good luck!
frukoyurdakul
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Topic Starter
frukoyurdakul

Hanjamon wrote:

Hey fruko, here is my m4m.

  • d=Don
    D=Big Don
    k=Katsu
    K=Big Katsu
[General]
  1. Consider adding some tags :arrow: LOL forgot about that, added some.
[Corroded]
  1. 00:29:471 (135,136) - swap these notes? finishing the stream with d and following the next with k fits good imo. :arrow: Agreed, since the last note of the stream is not the snare.
  2. 00:45:769 - from here to 00:46:635 - how about - d kkd kdkkdk ? for some reason it sounds better for me. :arrow: That part is mostly emphasizing the guitar, and I think this is the best way to do it.
  3. 00:55:800 - move this note to 00:55:656 - ? so it looks more consistent with the ending of 00:55:151 - and 00:56:305 - . :arrow: Then,
    it will end with a kkk and I think it's not good for that section because the guitar pitch doesn't support it. Besides, having the exact simple pattern twice would be too repetitive for me.
  4. 01:03:805 - change to k to empathize with the drums like 01:03:660 - ? :arrow: That kat sound won't represent anything so I'm keeping this.
  5. 01:05:535 - if you applied ^ same here? :arrow: Same answer.
  6. 01:12:314 - change to K? fits really with the guitar. :arrow: If I change that, I also need to change 01:01:930 (447) - this one and I don't wanna change the first one so I'll keep it.
  7. 01:14:189 - same as 01:05:535 - , change to k? :arrow: Doesn't sound good in my opinion. I mostly used kats for the snare sounds on that section.
  8. 01:19:237 - add finisher for consistency with 01:12:314 - ? :arrow: Those parts are pretty different, I don't see a reason to put a finisher on it.
  9. 01:34:381 (687,688,689,690) - change from d d d d to k d d k? it fits good imo. :arrow: 01:34:526 (688,689,690) - Those 3 are on kick sounds and 01:34:381 (687) - this one has put in order to keep consistency with other relative notes (example: 01:33:516 (683,684,686) - those two)
  10. 03:02:434 - change to k? a dkd fits really good there imo. :arrow: Changed to something else. 03:02:362 (1420,1421,1422) - Those 3 are kats and 03:02:794 (1424) - this one is don now in order to follow the drums.
  11. 03:13:468 - lol, from here to 03:18:660 - it feels like you are playing with custom hitsounds xD. :arrow: Really? haha :D
  12. 03:41:592 - change to k like you did in 03:41:447 - ? :arrow: Good one, applied.
  13. 04:23:275 - changing 04:23:275 - and 04:23:563 - to k fits good with the guitar imo. :arrow: Sounds nice, applied.
  14. 04:25:006 - change to k for the same reason of the guitar? :arrow: Did something else there.
  15. 04:38:131 - change this note to d and 04:38:275 - to k? they sound better for me. :arrow: Sounds better, applied also.
That's all from me, osu! needs more metal, good luck!
Thank you so much for your mod! :)
IControl
474 posts
Joined January 2013
IControl
Hi m4m

Corroded
00:55:295 (385) - k? guitar sounds higher compared to this 00:54:719 (378) -

02:02:939 - add k here I don't think a break is necessary here because of the guitar sound here. It stand out imo

02:35:968 (1208,1209) - change this to dd? the durms match 02:35:102 -

02:36:256 (1212) - change to finisher? This sounds very strong here

02:36:544 (1213,1214) - finishers? ^

04:33:010 - add a note here to match this structure 04:30:991 - Also this part could be a bit more intense imo

05:06:328 (2595,2596) - move these two over here 05:06:400 - to make 05:06:256 (2594) - stand out more. It has a strong drum snare sound

That's all I could think of to help good luck :)
frukoyurdakul
641 posts
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Topic Starter
frukoyurdakul

IControl wrote:

Hi m4m

Corroded
00:55:295 (385) - k? guitar sounds higher compared to this 00:54:719 (378) - :arrow: I put the notes stanza by stanza.
The pitch on that note is not that important, it's already flowing good compared to the rest.

02:02:939 - add k here I don't think a break is necessary here because of the guitar sound here. It stand out imo :arrow: I kinda wanted to emphasize the crash cymbal, and if I put a kat here, the crash will not emphasized enough.

02:35:968 (1208,1209) - change this to dd? the durms match 02:35:102 - :arrow: It's simply for variation.

02:36:256 (1212) - change to finisher? This sounds very strong here :arrow: I didn't use finishers after 1/4 notes, and i don't wanna remove the note before.

02:36:544 (1213,1214) - finishers? ^ :arrow: Drum sounds don't have a crash cymbal, so finishers will be unneccessary.

04:33:010 - add a note here to match this structure 04:30:991 - Also this part could be a bit more intense imo :arrow: Adding note makes sense, applied. But that part is already intense enough.

05:06:328 (2595,2596) - move these two over here 05:06:400 - to make 05:06:256 (2594) - stand out more. It has a strong drum snare sound :arrow: 05:05:174 - Added a note instead.

That's all I could think of to help good luck :)
Thank you so much for your mod :)
Arrival
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Joined June 2012
Arrival
looking good to me however i'd like to hear some other BNs insight before going further ahead

mod august 9 21:41 utc+2
2017-08-09 21:18 Arrival: 02:28:468 - why dont you make a full stream or longer streams here ?
2017-08-09 21:18 frukoyurdakul: oh
2017-08-09 21:18 frukoyurdakul: because the drums are simpler
2017-08-09 21:19 frukoyurdakul: compared to the streamy ones
2017-08-09 21:22 Arrival: 04:01:640 (615,616) - ctrl g this 
2017-08-09 21:22 Arrival: would sound less weird
2017-08-09 21:22 frukoyurdakul: like dkddk?
2017-08-09 21:22 Arrival: ye
2017-08-09 21:23 frukoyurdakul: okay, it works
2017-08-09 21:26 Arrival: 04:07:409 - i dont really like that part though
2017-08-09 21:26 Arrival: i find most of the streams quite unfitting
2017-08-09 21:27 frukoyurdakul: judging by the drums kdkdk and their variations fit I think
2017-08-09 21:28 Arrival: you cant map this to the drums lol
2017-08-09 21:28 Arrival: the guitar is way too dominant
2017-08-09 21:28 Arrival: first part works somewhat fine
2017-08-09 21:28 frukoyurdakul: I guess that's fair
2017-08-09 21:29 frukoyurdakul: then I can make it similiar
2017-08-09 21:29 Arrival: but i'd really like you to reconsider the second one
2017-08-09 21:29 Arrival: i'm fine with the rest of the map though
2017-08-09 21:30 Arrival: but i'd like you to ask an other bn for some insight
2017-08-09 21:30 Arrival: before i go further with the iconing
2017-08-09 21:31 frukoyurdakul: hmm
2017-08-09 21:32 frukoyurdakul: why don't you check this map again after the update
2017-08-09 21:32 frukoyurdakul: i've made some changes
2017-08-09 21:32 Arrival: i'm fine as it is i can star it if you want
2017-08-09 21:32 Arrival: but i want to be sure of whatothers may think
2017-08-09 21:33 Arrival: before i nominate it xd
2017-08-09 21:33 frukoyurdakul: I'll ask surono
2017-08-09 21:33 frukoyurdakul: and probably he'll bubble it
2017-08-09 21:33 frukoyurdakul: updated btw
2017-08-09 21:34 Arrival: yeah the part seems better
2017-08-09 21:35 frukoyurdakul: mhm, do you still wanna wait for other BN's opinion?
2017-08-09 21:35 Arrival: btw can you confirm metadata ?
2017-08-09 21:35 Arrival: Yes
2017-08-09 21:36 Arrival: i mean about this map as a whole
2017-08-09 21:36 Arrival: to see if they may want to polish it
2017-08-09 21:36 frukoyurdakul: okay i understand
2017-08-09 21:36 frukoyurdakul: btw about metadata: the speed of dark is the album name
2017-08-09 21:36 frukoyurdakul: well, the upcoming album name
2017-08-09 21:36 frukoyurdakul: it's obviously instrumental, i put "guitar solo" on the tags because of it
2017-08-09 21:36 frukoyurdakul: it's a marathon and it includes streams :D
2017-08-09 21:37 Arrival: im talking about the title + artist lul
2017-08-09 21:37 Arrival: i dont care about the tags
2017-08-09 21:37 frukoyurdakul: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVsfGqowvOk
2017-08-09 21:37 Arrival: okay looks Legit
2017-08-09 21:38 frukoyurdakul: the only thing about it is the artist name
2017-08-09 21:38 frukoyurdakul: since it's in all caps
2017-08-09 21:38 frukoyurdakul: but he is a youtuber and his youtube channel name includes small letters
2017-08-09 21:38 frukoyurdakul: so i chose to use that way
2017-08-09 21:39 Arrival: im on his bandcamp
2017-08-09 21:39 Arrival: i guess its good like this
2017-08-09 21:39 frukoyurdakul: agreed
2017-08-09 21:39 frukoyurdakul: so if it gets a bubble i'll call you back
2017-08-09 21:39 Arrival: yeah
Surono
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Joined November 2013
Surono
mod
01:27 frukoyurdakul: feeling better?
01:28 Surono: idk
01:28 Surono: asdfqw
01:28 frukoyurdakul: somehow i knew you'd said that lol
01:28 Surono: wwwwq X"Ddd
01:28 frukoyurdakul: usually you enter discord but this time you didn't so i was a bit worried
01:28 frukoyurdakul: nice connection
01:29 Surono: conectson
01:30 frukoyurdakul: anyway, I was going to request something :p
01:30 frukoyurdakul: if you are available
01:30 Surono: yeh wats that
01:31 frukoyurdakul: acid reign :^)
01:40 frukoyurdakul: did you just ignore me :(
01:41 *Surono is listening to [https://osu.ppy.sh/b/1288323 Angel Vivaldi - Acid Reign]
01:41 Surono: jst finishd
01:41 Surono: n yeh here is AM time
01:41 frukoyurdakul: aah i know
01:41 frukoyurdakul: sorry
01:47 frukoyurdakul: man you nailed it
01:51 frukoyurdakul: so... did you like it? :^)
01:58 Surono: am
01:59 frukoyurdakul: :ok_hand:
01:59 Surono: m
01:59 Surono: 01:03:805 - dlt
02:00 frukoyurdakul: done
02:01 Surono: 01:32:362 - k , yeh here mostly du du du du du uu
02:01 Surono: u
02:01 frukoyurdakul: 01:32:218 (674) - drums are lower
02:01 frukoyurdakul: no, higher
02:02 frukoyurdakul: prominent sounds are 01:32:218 (674,676,678) - these, which are kats
02:02 frukoyurdakul: I think don fits
02:02 Surono: ikr
02:02 Surono: with e
02:02 Surono: 01:45:631 - so rip
02:02 frukoyurdakul: didn't change it
02:03 frukoyurdakul: done
02:03 Surono: 01:45:776 - u start da alteration here,.
02:03 Surono: dem
02:03 frukoyurdakul: 01:45:631 - changed to kat
02:03 Surono: kadokadokadokokakakdokakakakaka
02:03 frukoyurdakul: can't read it lol
02:06 Surono: same
02:07 frukoyurdakul: lol
02:07 Surono: 03:44:621 - ~ 03:45:487 - kdkkkdk or kdkkddk
02:08 Surono: 03:52:698 - too over, would be lik k kkk kdk and etc etc
02:08 frukoyurdakul: hmm
02:08 frukoyurdakul: for the first part
02:09 Surono: 03:44:910 - or just kat it
02:09 Surono: yez stupud surudnu
02:09 frukoyurdakul: k d k d k d
02:09 frukoyurdakul: too similar
02:09 Surono: ye
02:09 Surono: boring
02:09 frukoyurdakul: changed to k d k k k d k
02:09 frukoyurdakul: better
02:09 frukoyurdakul: 2nd one is not over though
02:09 Surono: 03:57:313 - 
02:09 frukoyurdakul: guitar is 1/4
02:10 frukoyurdakul: yeah that one
02:10 Surono: then use low vol
02:10 Surono: i forget how tomoddinggm ,
02:10 frukoyurdakul: I already dropped down to 60% 03:41:737 - here
02:10 Surono: and now my headphone rip, but bette rwith spreaker, still able to listen 
02:11 frukoyurdakul: uhh
02:11 frukoyurdakul: i'm between two options now
02:12 Surono: 04:18:083 - k here, 
02:12 frukoyurdakul: tell me which one is better
02:12 Surono: dlting ,.
02:12 frukoyurdakul: either I drop down the volume to 50% between 03:52:626 - this pattern and raise it back
02:12 frukoyurdakul: or change it to kkd kkd k
02:12 Surono: yeah
02:13 frukoyurdakul: decreased volume between those
02:13 frukoyurdakul: you'll see after the update
02:13 Surono: overlap with overmap are differ ,  "overmap doesnt mean bad" whoo had this quote.. dem this quote for ozziozrock from std bn in da past wew
02:14 frukoyurdakul: that's not overmapping though
02:14 frukoyurdakul: i'm mapping the guitar solo which have sounds on all of the notes
02:15 frukoyurdakul: but, yeah it does sound high so i reduced the volume
02:15 frukoyurdakul: as you suggested
02:15 frukoyurdakul: 04:18:083 (2102) - I don't wanna make this kat
02:16 frukoyurdakul: 04:16:496 (2088,2091) - same pitch, they're both dons
02:16 Surono: 04:21:256 (2132,2133,2134,2135,2136) - better this
02:16 Surono: lol i dont understand with that - _- imma stupud
02:16 frukoyurdakul: listen to the guitar
02:16 Surono: i dont like mapper with their own sense at mapping, but me still like nweff or something like nofool...
02:16 Surono: okey just it
02:16 Surono: posting

edit:
fixed some minor emphasize/error alteration.
my concern e.g 03:52:698 - here etc, I suggestd to make it like x xxx xxx but ye mapper applied decreased vol
arridem me let u check it again
Arrival
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Arrival
re IRCed good luck
Surono
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Surono
Approved

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frukoyurdakul
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frukoyurdakul

Surono wrote:

Approved

iyi şans
<3<3<3
Shadowa Pinkman
952 posts
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Shadowa Pinkman
O ZAMAN DANS!
frukoyurdakul
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frukoyurdakul
RENK
Surono
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Surono
Shadowa Pinkman
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Shadowa Pinkman
Mapte bazı olası metronom hataları buldum ve paylaşmak istedim. Eğer bana katılmazsan, QAT'nin görüşlerini bekleriz. / I found some potential metronome issues on the map and I want to share it. If you don't agree with me, we would wait for QAT's opinion.

  1. 03:18:948 - I guess main beat is here, should be 6/4.
  2. 03:20:679 - Comparing with 03:13:468 -, seems that guitar starts in 2nd beat of the measure at 03:20:679 -. So 03:20:679 - Change to 4/4 metronome, then add 5/4 at 03:21:832 -.
  3. 03:34:813 - ^
  4. 03:31:639 - Main beat is here, you should add 4/4 metronome
  5. 03:38:563 -
  6. 04:07:409 - Same as second suggestion, if we compare with 04:00:198 -. Guitar skips 1st beat.
That's all I've found. I hope I'm wrong, because the map is EPIC

Seni seviyorum <3
Raiden
osu! Alumni
2,419 posts
Joined January 2013
Raiden
zigi is partially correct
[Timing]
02:21:545 - is 3/4. 6/4 halves the amount of actual downbeats. While 6/4 fits to some bars, it doesn't for many. It's best to simply change to 3/4

actually that part is many times off lol also the kiai needs some adjustments as well

6539,288.461538461538,4,1,0,70,1,0
48077,288.461538461538,4,1,0,70,1,8
48095,294.117647058824,4,1,0,70,1,0
50418,288.461538461538,4,1,0,70,1,0
51546,288.461538461538,4,1,0,70,1,0
61930,288.461538461538,6,1,0,70,1,0
113853,288.461538461538,4,1,0,70,1,0
141545,288.461538461538,3,1,0,70,1,0
193468,288.461538461538,5,1,0,50,1,0
196352,288.461538461538,9,1,0,70,1,0
198948,288.461538461538,6,1,0,50,1,0
200679,288.461538461538,5,1,0,50,1,0
203563,288.461538461538,3,1,0,70,1,0
204429,288.461538461538,5,1,0,50,1,0
205871,288.461538461538,3,1,0,50,1,0
207601,288.461538461538,5,1,0,50,1,0
210485,288.461538461538,4,1,0,70,1,0
211638,288.461538461538,11,1,0,70,1,0
214813,288.461538461538,5,1,0,70,1,0
217697,288.461538461538,3,1,0,70,1,0
218563,288.461538461538,11,1,0,70,1,0
221737,288.461538461538,4,1,0,60,1,0
240198,288.461538461538,5,1,0,70,1,1
243082,288.461538461538,4,1,0,70,1,1
245390,288.461538461538,7,1,0,70,1,1
247409,288.461538461538,5,1,0,70,1,1
250293,288.461538461538,3,1,0,70,1,1
251158,288.461538461538,5,1,0,70,1,1
252601,288.461538461538,6,1,0,70,1,1
254331,288.461538461538,6,1,0,70,1,0

The parts that are 13/4 and 11/4 can be timed as 7/4+6/4 and 7/4+4/4 if you feel uncomfortable with such signatures

cool song, we need more of these

edit: 13/4 feels more accurate as two 5/4 bars followed by one 3/4 bar so nvm me
and the 11/4 can be both, both are correct depending on what you think the reset is
edit 2: 9/4 can be 5/4+4/4
frukoyurdakul
641 posts
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Topic Starter
frukoyurdakul

zigizigiefe wrote:

Mapte bazı olası metronom hataları buldum ve paylaşmak istedim. Eğer bana katılmazsan, QAT'nin görüşlerini bekleriz. / I found some potential metronome issues on the map and I want to share it. If you don't agree with me, we would wait for QAT's opinion.

  1. 03:18:948 - I guess main beat is here, should be 6/4.
  2. 03:20:679 - Comparing with 03:13:468 -, seems that guitar starts in 2nd beat of the measure at 03:20:679 -. So 03:20:679 - Change to 4/4 metronome, then add 5/4 at 03:21:832 -.
  3. 03:34:813 - ^
  4. 03:31:639 - Main beat is here, you should add 4/4 metronome
  5. 03:38:563 -
  6. 04:07:409 - Same as second suggestion, if we compare with 04:00:198 -. Guitar skips 1st beat.
That's all I've found. I hope I'm wrong, because the map is EPIC

Seni seviyorum <3

Raiden wrote:

zigi is partially correct
[Timing]
02:21:545 - is 3/4. 6/4 halves the amount of actual downbeats. While 6/4 fits to some bars, it doesn't for many. It's best to simply change to 3/4

actually that part is many times off lol also the kiai needs some adjustments as well

6539,288.461538461538,4,1,0,70,1,0
48077,288.461538461538,4,1,0,70,1,8
48095,294.117647058824,4,1,0,70,1,0
50418,288.461538461538,4,1,0,70,1,0
51546,288.461538461538,4,1,0,70,1,0
61930,288.461538461538,6,1,0,70,1,0
113853,288.461538461538,4,1,0,70,1,0
141545,288.461538461538,3,1,0,70,1,0
193468,288.461538461538,5,1,0,50,1,0
196352,288.461538461538,9,1,0,70,1,0
198948,288.461538461538,6,1,0,50,1,0
200679,288.461538461538,5,1,0,50,1,0
203563,288.461538461538,3,1,0,70,1,0
204429,288.461538461538,5,1,0,50,1,0
205871,288.461538461538,3,1,0,50,1,0
207601,288.461538461538,5,1,0,50,1,0
210485,288.461538461538,4,1,0,70,1,0
211638,288.461538461538,11,1,0,70,1,0
214813,288.461538461538,5,1,0,70,1,0
217697,288.461538461538,3,1,0,70,1,0
218563,288.461538461538,11,1,0,70,1,0
221737,288.461538461538,4,1,0,60,1,0
240198,288.461538461538,5,1,0,70,1,1
243082,288.461538461538,4,1,0,70,1,1
245390,288.461538461538,7,1,0,70,1,1
247409,288.461538461538,5,1,0,70,1,1
250293,288.461538461538,3,1,0,70,1,1
251158,288.461538461538,5,1,0,70,1,1
252601,288.461538461538,6,1,0,70,1,1
254331,288.461538461538,6,1,0,70,1,0

The parts that are 13/4 and 11/4 can be timed as 7/4+6/4 and 7/4+4/4 if you feel uncomfortable with such signatures

cool song, we need more of these

edit: 13/4 feels more accurate as two 5/4 bars followed by one 3/4 bar so nvm me
and the 11/4 can be both, both are correct depending on what you think the reset is
edit 2: 9/4 can be 5/4+4/4
To reply on both of these suggestions because they are related, I applied Raiden's timing on this map and changed the 9/4 and 11/4 to 5/4 + 4/4 and 6/4 + 5/4 in order to keep the timing accurate. Changed the first 6/4 beats to 3/4 as well. But, kept the original kiai places in order to emphasize the hard parts like I did it before.

Requesting a disqualification to update the beatmap.

Edit: In order to check the beatmap before the disqualification, here is the link of the fixed timing and notes.
Nardoxyribonucleic
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Nardoxyribonucleic
Disqualified as requested by map creator to fix the aforementioned metronome issues.
frukoyurdakul
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frukoyurdakul
Updated with:

Added multiple timing points due to the 1ms overlapping barline issues.

Some of the barline volumes were 70% instead of 50%, fixed those as well.
Surono
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Surono
barlines are complicated like my bran,./ i brain, residentsleeper

brainless.
frukoyurdakul
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Surono wrote:

barlines are complicated like my bran,./ i brain, residentsleeper

brainless.
Barlines are brainless indeed...
Arrival
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Arrival
new measure and timing changes, bubble rep.
frukoyurdakul
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frukoyurdakul
2nd update:

As discussed with Raiden, 04:05:678 - this and 04:12:601 - this one (red timing point) are changed to 3/4, they were 6/4 before. (Edit: that happened before the bubble :D)
Surono
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back
frukoyurdakul
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Surono wrote:

back
Thank you! <again ;w;>
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Tebrikler bi'tanem <3
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