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Xiz
To be honest I think half of this confusion is because of the delay lmfao.
Anyway, lets move on.

I understand your points on Shiirn.
I disagree with his roleblock.
It doesn't change his alignment at the moment.
I disagree with you forwarding time, but I don't care since I can reverse it ;)

Is there anything else about shriin that you havent said that can persuade me? Because I can't vote for him still atm.
Xiz
(On a side note, Hillini still hasn't posted in our private chat since he asked me about my claim)
Nyxa
I don't care about persuading you. The way I play mafia is I do my thing and if I'm right I'm right and if I'm wrong I'm wrong. I don't play to have town win unless I make it to lategame which I never do because I always get NK'd N1 or N2. Mainly because I tend to win if I get to lategame. Though there have been times I got rekt (fucking Raiden ;_;)
Nyxa
All I wanna do is make the right reads and set up plays that result in making the right reads. Whether that results in a mafia lynch or not doesn't matter as much, since that's dependent on other townies making the right reads and other townies aren't always reliable. And when they are, they get killed off N1.

cough Sakura cough
Xiz
Fair enough.

I'm keeping my vote on Hillini for obvious reasons.
Nyxa
I don't think they're so obvious, it still looks like OMGUS to me. My vote is on Shiirn, if you didn't notice. You're just not a valuable target at the moment. I don't think we'd learn much from lynching you either, and my gut's telling me you'd just flip town anyway.
Shiirn
I roleblocked Sakura N1 partially on the off chance she was scum. If we had no night kill, I'd have evidence I blocked them. Considering her D1 bluster, I figured if she was scum she would be the one 'leading the team'. Thus if I wanted to roleblock scum, I'd roleblock Sakura.

I was also worried she was a Vig and would try to kill me, for personal reasons. I believed her claim that she was not a doc/cop. You might have to dig a bit, but i explained possibilities that could exist as a result of her suicidal D1 actions and she claimed she was none of them - that kind of bluster implied to me self-defending properties - possibly Vig or, god forbid, Commuter. (I hate Commuters.)

I'm sorry I don't have a concrete in-game reason for blocking her. I am fully aware that makes me look scummy, but in mafia I've found it's better to just trust in yourself and forget everyone else's actions, only look at your own logic.


Which makes this the second time you're voting me just to poke me, Tess. I'm flattered, you seem to be actively scared of the possibility I'm scum~.

I do agree that Xiz is just playing Village Idiot, but he provided some details he could not obtain without a flavor message, so that kind of thing can be considered trustworthy. I have no idea what his mason-like thing going for him is though.

This is just my explanation of what my thought processes are, I'm not going to actively provide evidence to whether I am scum or town based on actions I've done, because I know Tess knows (wifom wahaha) that even while I am scum I am extremely good at twisting fact into fiction.
Shiirn
Just for absolute clarity:

My party name is Jimmy the Giraffe.

I have a flavor-based Twin passive, granting me the name of another party member, Jerry, who Tess claimed with to be, Jerry the Giraffe, with no counter-claim.

I am a Roleblocker.

I claimed Giraffe purely because of Xiz talking about giraffes - his wording was confusing, and I didn't realize he was even claiming "A giraffe can be town" until long after all was said and done with. Because I was a Twin, I already assumed there were two Giraffes, and as Tess quickly caught on, one of us being town doesn't mean the other is clear either - I would have hesitated to reveal in that case until Tess claimed, but then I assume a similar thought process went through her mind and I just ended up being the first to take the step.

If we're both town, whatever, if one of us is scum, whatever.
Shiirn
Bleh, this is why quick reply sucks,

"I would have hesitated to reveal in that case until Tess claimed, but then I assume a similar thought process went through her mind and I just ended up being the first to take the step. "

should be "until my Twin claimed", and to clarify, so that I could immediately point out the possibility of one of us still being scum, because "A giraffe is innocent" doesn't actually do anything unless one of us is killed and flips scum, in which case the other would be permanently confirmed Town.
Nyxa
Alright, once again, I'm satisfied with this post. This is getting annoying. Ironic how we're twins in here.

See the reason I'm doing this is because I really hope you're town because that'd give me a certain sense of security in this game, and I can explain more D3. Actually, scum's actions N2 will probably give town a whole lot of info on D3, regardless of who gets killed.

Unvote

So now my two primary targets are down, and of the remaining two I'd consider targeting, one is V/LA and the other claimed Vig and is incredibly hard to interrogate.

I'm gonna wait and see what everyone else has to say before re-reading everyone.
Nyxa
Also gotta figure out what's up with this AutoMedic guy.

Also, told you I'd get wifom-tastic D2. Mafia Monty Hall baby.
Shiirn
I know you know I know you know!
Topic Starter
Frostings
Vote Count 2.4

(1) Xiz: Haneii
(1) - Magic Bomb -: beeboy123
(1) Haneii: Xiz

Not Voting: AutoMedic, -[Jess]-, Shiirn, Zexion, - Magic Bomb -, Tess
AutoMedic has been prodded
Deadline is in 3 days!
Xiz
Hey lets vote haneii
beeboy123
Not feeling it really.
Nyxa
^ Let's not.
Nyxa
I'd still vote Xiz over Haneii despite thinking he's town.
beeboy123
Not feeling Xiz either,.
MBomb
I'd be willing to lynch AutoMedic just because of how silent he's being, honestly.
Xiz
I hate that you said that MB, but I feel like most of the active people are town soooooo
Nyxa

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

I'd be willing to lynch AutoMedic just because of how silent he's being, honestly.
I agree tbh.
Nyxa
Or we could always PL Jess.
Xiz
Ugh I hate how games on this website usually only have half active players, it's rather annoying.
beeboy123

Tess wrote:

Or we could always PL Jess.

This is the towniest post I have ever seen.
beeboy123
Am I the only one who is been having a harder time town reading Tess recently?
beeboy123
{Zexion, Mbomb, Automedic} are all strictly better lynches but Tess was like near top tier town for a bit and it is just heading town :(
AutoMedic
Go ahead, hammer me d2. I feel like my lynch is going to be better off benefiting town anyway

But before anything else, I am not a scum.

The reason that sakura got nightkilled D1 is because of scum fear. But it isn't because Sakura can be helpful. But because I can narrow down scum if Sakura was still alive. With his help, town could've narrowed down who's the scum, because I can pretty much see who's the scum already. Well, at least, my ability

You can kill me and flip my card, I don't care. I'm the most suspicious after all. What I do care about is scum.

vote: Tess
AutoMedic
now, i did mean that i can see scum but not directly so yes
AutoMedic
desu
Nyxa

beeboy123 wrote:

Tess wrote:

Or we could always PL Jess.

This is the towniest post I have ever seen.
How is it scummy to suggest lynching someone who has given zero contribution to the game so far and is known to do that in most games?

beeboy123 wrote:

{Zexion, Mbomb, Automedic} are all strictly better lynches but Tess was like near top tier town for a bit and it is just heading town :(
What's more town, clear explanations of the reasoning behind one's reads or mere "they're town" "they're scum" posts? I mean, I'm not even defending myself here, just pointing out the hypocrisy. It's rather annoying to play with someone who does this all the time. How about you think about what you post before posting it, and elaborate on your reads when you do?

AutoMedic wrote:

Go ahead, hammer me d2. I feel like my lynch is going to be better off benefiting town anyway

But before anything else, I am not a scum.

The reason that sakura got nightkilled D1 is because of scum fear. But it isn't because Sakura can be helpful. But because I can narrow down scum if Sakura was still alive. With his help, town could've narrowed down who's the scum, because I can pretty much see who's the scum already. Well, at least, my ability

You can kill me and flip my card, I don't care. I'm the most suspicious after all. What I do care about is scum.

vote: Tess
Sure.

Vote: AutoMedic
AutoMedic

Tess wrote:

Or we could always PL Jess.
wait shit i forgot to read this
AutoMedic
what was your true intentions on the jess pl?

wanna hear it from the woman herself
Nyxa

Tess wrote:

lynching someone who has given zero contribution to the game so far and is known to do that in most games
Nyxa
That's the main reason for lynching you too, btw.
Shiirn
boop
Nyxa
This game is starting to get boring ;_;
MBomb

AutoMedic wrote:

what was your true intentions on the jess pl?

wanna hear it from the woman herself
Why did you ask this now, but never commented on it when I said I'd be fine with a Jess PL in d1?
Nyxa
^Jess PL has been a thing since D1, I don't know how it indicates me as scum. I also agreed with it back then and was just reproposing it as an option in case we can't decide on who to lynch.
Zexion
I'm back. Give me some minutes to read.
Zexion
I've seen Tess switching votes about 3 times today, most of them being sure then pulling back. Honestly the whole thing with Giraffes is pretty confusing because of the twins, so I'd rather not step into there otherwise I may end up accusing someone as scum or town only because roles instead of play. Anyways, Shirrn claimed first, right?. The whole issue with this if it maybe the twins actually work as their traditional role and that's what makes me confused, but it would be unlikely or impossible, right? Pls no math right now I'm already confused as hell on my probability courses thank you.

The whole Xiz v/s Haneii thing seems rather... silly. I mean, accusing just because you didn't reply on time on your private chat or omitting information is kinda null at all. I just wouldn't want to say either is scum for what happpened, so honestly I think voting either based on this is literallly having no idea where this is going.

Vote: Haneii, Xiz

Also what's with MB suddenly appearing and saying "yeah we should lynch AutoMedic" when he has said almost nothing himself. (Not that I'm the one to talk about that...)

-[Jess]- wrote:

Vig
Well this is dangerous.

Jess PL lynch again? Oh boy, I wonder how that will end up!

Whatever, just based on that random vote:

Vote: AutoMedic

Oh also I think I'll re-read a bit later.
beeboy123
vote: Automedic
Nyxa

Zexion wrote:

I've seen Tess switching votes about 3 times today, most of them being sure then pulling back.
If you don't sound certain when you're voting, and the person you're voting is scum, they won't fear being lynched. You have to be certain of who you vote when you vote them unless your vote's purpose is either joining a wagon because there's no better person to vote, or to hammer to prevent a nolynch. I tend to vote and unvote people a lot, but I'm always certain about my votes until they give a reply satisfying enough to change my mind. That way, if they're scum, they'll feel actual pressure, rather than not caring because I gave a "C-Can I p-please vote you, S-Senpai?" vote.

Zexion wrote:

Honestly the whole thing with Giraffes is pretty confusing because of the twins, so I'd rather not step into there otherwise I may end up accusing someone as scum or town only because roles instead of play. Anyways, Shirrn claimed first, right?. The whole issue with this if it maybe the twins actually work as their traditional role and that's what makes me confused, but it would be unlikely or impossible, right? Pls no math right now I'm already confused as hell on my probability courses thank you.
Welcome to mafia ft. Tess and Shiirn~

Zexion wrote:

The whole Xiz v/s Haneii thing seems rather... silly. I mean, accusing just because you didn't reply on time on your private chat or omitting information is kinda null at all. I just wouldn't want to say either is scum for what happpened, so honestly I think voting either based on this is literallly having no idea where this is going.
Agreed.

Zexion wrote:

Also what's with MB suddenly appearing and saying "yeah we should lynch AutoMedic" when he has said almost nothing himself. (Not that I'm the one to talk about that...)
MB has still said more than AutoMedic and you, yes. If he's scum then this playstyle is unbecoming of him. I can understand him being a busy town, but barely posting as scum is lame and harms the game. If that's the case (and other scum are also simply not posting) I'm done with osu!mafia.

Zexion wrote:

Vote: AutoMedic

Oh also I think I'll re-read a bit later.

beeboy123 wrote:

vote: Automedic
So you just joining the wagon for the hell of it?
beeboy123
vote: Tess

I changed my mind I want this gone.
Shiirn
FUCK, MAFIA WITH SHIIRN AND TESS IS OVERWHELMING, ELIMINATE
Xiz

Tess wrote:

This game is starting to get boring ;_;
The more people post, the more fun the game is.
The less people post, the more boring it is.

I too, am bored.
Xiz
There are a few of you who are posting somewhat frequently so thx for that but, lol.

Also my opinions haven't changed.
Nyxa

Shiirn wrote:

FUCK, MAFIA WITH SHIIRN AND TESS IS OVERWHELMING, ELIMINATE
spoopy wifom posts are spoopy
Xiz
Tess wanna fight again im bored
beeboy123
Why aren't we lynching Tess for trying to policy lynch our claimed vig?
beeboy123
There is a clear difference in asking for a policy lynch pre and post vig claim.
Topic Starter
Frostings
Vote Count 2.5

(2) AutoMedic: Tess, Zexion
(2) Tess: beeboy123, AutoMedic
(1) Xiz: Haneii
(1) Haneii: Xiz

Not Voting: -[Jess]-, Shiirn, - Magic Bomb -
Deadline is May 31 10:00pm EST
This is 48 hours from now!
beeboy123
^ we have 2 days left can we please just all sheep me :(
Zexion

Tess wrote:

Zexion wrote:

I've seen Tess switching votes about 3 times today, most of them being sure then pulling back.
If you don't sound certain when you're voting, and the person you're voting is scum, they won't fear being lynched. You have to be certain of who you vote when you vote them unless your vote's purpose is either joining a wagon because there's no better person to vote, or to hammer to prevent a nolynch. I tend to vote and unvote people a lot, but I'm always certain about my votes until they give a reply satisfying enough to change my mind. That way, if they're scum, they'll feel actual pressure, rather than not caring because I gave a "C-Can I p-please vote you, S-Senpai?" vote.
I'll promise to use that last quote someday. Also I get your point.

Tess wrote:

So you just joining the wagon for the hell of it?
So you want to keep this status where nothing is happening?

beeboy123 wrote:

Why aren't we lynching Tess for trying to policy lynch our claimed vig?
I'm not really sure if we should lynch Tess just for that. I mean, it's Jess we're talking about. I'll consider it anyways.
Nyxa
"claimed" and "confirmed" are two entirely different things babe.
Nyxa
From your point of view, the odds of me being town are far higher than of Jess being vig, because "Vig" was literally the last word she said, uh.. 8 pages ago?
MBomb
Automedic scum seems a lot more likely than Tess scum to me, Tess's activity and especially her actions on D1 seemed very town to me.

Vote: AutoMedic
-[Jess]-
Sorry for not posting,I am sick.

I claim vig,
Than they want to pl me.
Good job.

I will shoot either one at n2.
Nyxa
This is why I proposed a Jess PL, keeping her alive will put us in MyLo D3.

I predicted this would happen and whee. Someone being vig isn't always beneficial to town and lynching them isn't always a bad idea.
Nyxa
Btw claiming something doesn't automatically make it true either.

If so everyone would claim town and town would lose??

Jesus guys do you understand this game like at all
Xiz
Jess annoys me.
Nyxa
Welcome to osu!mafia
Haneii

Xiz wrote:

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

god damnit why are people roleclaiming i'm seriously confused right now
I had to for the way my neighbor (Haneii) reacted to my claim when I honestly thought that he was my mason bro, since I accidentally outed to him.
How did you accidentally out me? I voted before you role claimed. Honestly, try and keep track of events >.> It makes you look scummy/like you're making things up as you go. lol and to think I was never scum reading you (not that I really am now either but meh).


Xiz wrote:

Haneii wrote:

I didn't think it was necessary for me to keep checking QT/my notifications as much. Yet I still wanted an answer to my question. So before going to bed I voted you as a reminder/prompt and was hoping I would get a response by morning. I didn't expect you to snap o.o
So by your logic, you voted for me after acknowledging my claim, and purposely refused to check our chat for more info.
So the second I claimed, you insta-voted for me without questioning me. The fuck????????

I did question you. You never replied lol



If you are town, I seriously advice you to reconsider your stance, because there is no world where this would be considered appropriate for town UNLESS you claim the exact role I am.

Claim the exact role as you? I don't get it. Do you equate a role claim to conf-town? Anyways, I already confirmed we're friends what do you mean by this post? You're so confusing @_@

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Wait a minute. I just got suspicious of Shiirn because I never saw him claim he roleblocked Sakura.

Why would he block Sakura, considering from the previous day, he said that sakura was either cop or scum?

If sakura was scum, surely they wouldn't perform the NK, unless their partner was suspected more (Which, whilst I was townreading her, it seems not many others were)?

So basically he blocked someone who he thought was either cop, or a scum that wouldn't perform NK, most likely? That seems off to me.
I like this post. Very towny >w<

Xiz wrote:

Fair enough.

I'm keeping my vote on Hillini for obvious reasons.


I'm keeping my vote on you for lying, withholding information (not from me, btw, but the players in this thread. Still wondering why), refusing to answer my questions...the list goes on (all of which occurred after I voted for you lol)

You're voting me...because I voted for you. Smh

You can answer me in the QT as well if you don't want to here/think it would derail the game - but please just answer me.
Xiz
tl;dr lol
Xiz
jk, i just didnt care enough to read.

Also I don't care enough to answer your questions again, since I already answered them in previous posts.

You are not worth my time.
Xiz
I'm like 90% sure mafia is gonna win this game, not because mafia are playing well but because lol this town.
Haneii
@Jess: Why did you wait until Day 2 to roleclaim?
Haneii
Not feeling the automedic lynch guys. Lynching lurkers/PL should have been D1 - why are you guys so comfortable lynching a null?

I'm going to stick to Xiz for a bit longer. He went from calm and confident (how he appears to me in QT and here) to OMG I GOT ONE VOTE I must role claim and explain all my breadcrumbs and secure town cred asap! I'm not sure if he's just not thinking this through, but it comes off as scum who see's me as a threat that might get him lynched during the day.

Xiz, do you really think I'm scum? If I didn't want that information about the giraffe getting out to everyone I would have left you alone and just kill you at night and no one would be any wiser (besides the giraffe who may or may not get your post). However, if there's another reason why you think I'm scummy, please let me know asap.


@EVERYONE ELSE: IS IT WRONG FOR ME TO BE SUSPICIOUS OF SOMEONE BECAUSE THEY REFUSE TO EXPLAIN THEMSELVES TO ME? IF HE DOESN'T WANT TO DERAIL THIS THREAD HE COULD EASILY ANSWER ME IN THE QT. lol I know it's a common newbie behaviour, but being patronizing/rude when all I want is to clear things up so I can POE more effectively doesn't really help town and wastes valuable time T_T. I'll drop this though if more of you don't see this going anywhere *sigh*

I'll switch my vote if you guys can give better reasons for voting besides lurking or PL. Both automedic and Jess are null to me atm.

FOS (in decending order):
1.Xiz,
2.Zexion
3.Anyone I haven't mentioned by name in this list
4.Jess
5.Automedic
Haneii
Sorry for flooding this thread with this guys hopefully it's the last one



@Xiz, please check and answer in the QT



Here are my lasts posts to him the QT. inb4 paranoia. Sakura would prob want to slap me by now XD
SPOILER
"Skimming through the thread at work~ Will hopefully post once I get home and get to read it properly without distractions.

Still wondering why you won't tell the other players about your abilities. You can tell me in here if you don't want the others to know.

Also can you link some of the games you've played on other websites so I can get an idea of your play style. I'm trying to understand why you do the things you from a town perspective, but it doesn't look too towny. However, I've encountered townies who play like you but its usually because they're new and get defensive/spooked easily."

"DELETE
Please stop ignoring me. If you're town, I'd rather clear things up now to avoid mislynching you.

If you mistrust me, look I don't your trust - I'm in no danger of being lynched by the others so why would I need you. I'm just trying to actively scum hunt and narrow things down, and you're stalling the process if you're actually town. Just answer 2 questions for me if its too much for you:

1. Why didn't you tell the players in the thread everything when you claimed (role +pms from mod)? Why tell some and keep others to yourself?
2. Why do you think I'm scum (this question is important because it gives me an idea of your reasoning - will it be scum or town motivated)?

Just answer those two. Again, please."
Nyxa

Xiz wrote:

I'm like 90% sure mafia is gonna win this game, not because mafia are playing well but because lol this town.
Most people aren't posting so I kinda don't wanna play anymore
Zexion
@Haneii: I get that what Xiz is doing is really weird and unjustified, but I don't think that itself warrants being scum. I just don't feel like voting either of you.

Also asking that to Jess will lead to nowhere.

Tess wrote:

Xiz wrote:

I'm like 90% sure mafia is gonna win this game, not because mafia are playing well but because lol this town.
Most people aren't posting so I kinda don't wanna play anymore
Pretty sure most of us are posting, at least some phrases.
Haneii

Zexion wrote:

Also asking that to Jess will lead to nowhere.
It got you to comment on it, adjusting my read of you.
Honestly though, I think I'm still salty from that last game where we were siblings and she claimed a couple pages into D1. I'm just curious now, what changed?


So 6, who else besides automedic would you be willing to vote?
Xiz
Posting once or twice a day is not posting, it's preventing prods.
Posting once every two or three days is not playing in the game, you are killing the game.
beeboy123
Activity and effort aren't alignment indicative.

Vote Tess pls and thanks.
Haneii

Xiz wrote:

Posting once or twice a day is not posting, it's preventing prods.
Posting once every two or three days is not playing in the game, you are killing the game.
Actively lurking by consecutively posting about how people aren't posting isn't any better XD
Haneii

beeboy123 wrote:

Activity and effort aren't alignment indicative.

Vote Tess pls and thanks.
Sakura all over again. Oh hey let's vote someone else for no reason. Everyone join me! Now!

So what if Tess wants Vig Jess gone? Think about it. Vig. Jess. It's never okay to lynch someone you think is town, but considering the matter is Jess, I can see the town motivation behind it (ie: get rid of liability/belief that vig Jess would do more harm than good to town if ability is used etc). Scum is less likely to outright suggest we lynch a townie D2.
beeboy123
Jess can you vig Tess for me because this town doesn't want to lynch her?
beeboy123
Don't respond because saying yes may get you PL'd
Xiz

beeboy123 wrote:

Activity and effort aren't alignment indicative.

Vote Tess pls and thanks.

I agree, they are not.
I'm at the point where I don't care anymore so I might.
AutoMedic
if jess is vig im pretty much going to die at n2

up to you guys, however i'm a doctor so jokes on you ha ha
MBomb
tfw beeboy is trying to get the vig to vig the most town person in the game rn wat
MBomb
Unvote

Vote: Beeboy

we should change this quickly because of doctor claim
beeboy123
vote: auto medic

I doubt there is 2 doctors
beeboy123
Also activity and effort doesn't equal alignment Tess being the towniest player is complete bs.
beeboy123
Also why does the confirmable role vig get PL'd but the non confirmable role doctor gets a get out jail free card?
You guys make no sense.
AutoMedic

beeboy123 wrote:

Also why does the confirmable role vig get PL'd but the non confirmable role doctor gets a get out jail free card?
You guys make no sense.
We have a fucking unexperienced vig who knows if he miss

That's also his "Get out of Jail Card" you fucking pillock

Or maybe this is just another mafia buddy reaction.
beeboy123
Vig is a confirmable role as we should see 2 kills.
No kill resolving doesn't mean there is a doctor.
That is why vig is a legitimate get out of jail free card as it is a confirmable role as we know there is one if there is 2 kills in one night.

Not lynching you for a doc claim is meh but that is huge bias on my part because I am the actual doctor.
beeboy123
Mafia vig is kind of busted.
Nyxa
Mafia assassin is a thing. Also I don't mind getting voted. I'm okay with voting beeboy.

Vote: Beeboy

Might as well. If beeboy is doc then automedic is scum.
Nyxa

AutoMedic wrote:

beeboy123 wrote:

Also why does the confirmable role vig get PL'd but the non confirmable role doctor gets a get out jail free card?
You guys make no sense.
We have a fucking unexperienced vig who knows if he miss

That's also his "Get out of Jail Card" you fucking pillock

Or maybe this is just another mafia buddy reaction.
Vig could also be a lie yeah.
Nyxa
Pretty sure Xiz and Mbomb are town at this point.
-[Jess]-

Haneii wrote:

@Jess: Why did you wait until Day 2 to roleclaim?
if I claim in d1,that i may have a high chance to die or get roleblock by a mafia roleblocker.that mean i can't kill a person
D2 is safer for me to claim
AutoMedic
If beeboy flips doctor then tjat means jess is a legitimate vig

I'm pretty much suspecting a jess-beeboy mafiabuddy but if it's not, I'll protect Shiirn because he's the second town priority
AutoMedic
also L I T E R A L L Y M E T A because Sakura was just a fear kill. I doubt people who are against Sakura's agenda (we confirmed him town, so this should lead to something)

I'll go read throughout the night, maybe no one noticed the scumslip yet
Haneii

-[Jess]- wrote:

Haneii wrote:

@Jess: Why did you wait until Day 2 to roleclaim?
if I claim in d1,that i may have a high chance to die or get roleblock by a mafia roleblocker.that mean i can't kill a person
D2 is safer for me to claim
That doesn't cut it Jess. I can understand if you did that if you planned to "shoot" N1, but you didn't (did you?). Claiming today puts you in the same position as yesterday. You could still be NK'd tonight or blocked...so no it's not safer.
beeboy123
The fact you are lynching the counter claim first is honestly stupid.
Why would I lie about being a doctor which is literally suicide?


Tess is still scum.
AutoMedic
I don't know mate but I trust Tess a bit more than you do so...

Vote: beeboy123
beeboy123
Automedic is already preparing for my ML of which is sad
beeboy123
Tess/automedic
This is the scum team
Xiz
hey guys can i claim medic also
Xiz
i'll need a bit to think about all these claims.

Shit, haneii might be town.
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