lol actually haneii is right, if you want to push a lynch, it's on me, thats the only possibility within the more or less an hour left. Otherwise its no lynch at all
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But I don't think Zaph is scum :/Haneii wrote:
...alright. If that's the case, vote Zaph and push for the lynch. Better than a NL, right? Only 1.5 hours left to get 4 more on Sakura, when you'd only need to get 2 more to lynch Zaph.beeboy123 wrote:
better then no lynch
Can we lynch the Sakura slot tomorrow if we lynch Zaph today and he flips town?
Have you read Zaph's posts on this page?beeboy123 wrote:
Can we lynch the Sakura slot tomorrow if we lynch Zaph today and he flips town?
vote: Zaph
This just feels like typical newbie play I don't see it as either scum or town :/
But I really think NLing is bad.
This just feels like typical newbie play I don't see it as either scum or town :/
But I really think NLing is bad.
What posts? i said that i found shiirn suspicious, that i dont know who is scum, that i hate to pull a wagon because i dont want to be the guy that kills someone without proper reasoning and that, if you really want a lynch today, its on me because you wont get anyone else to 6 votes. The first 3 are my opinions on this game, the last one is just a simple fact, if that is scummy you should place your vote right now.
You don't act like you do.beeboy123 wrote:
But I really think NLing is bad.
Topic Starter
Vote Count 1.11
(4) Zaphkael: Tess, Xiz, Zexion, beeboy123 [L-2]
(1) Sakura: Shiirn
(1) Shiirn:Sakura
Not Voting: AutoMedic, -[Jess]-, Haneii, Zaphkael, - Magic Bomb -
Deadline is in 40 minutes!(4) Zaphkael: Tess, Xiz, Zexion, beeboy123 [L-2]
(1) Sakura: Shiirn
(1) Shiirn:Sakura
Not Voting: AutoMedic, -[Jess]-, Haneii, Zaphkael, - Magic Bomb -
@Haneii: Because i thought i had to go to work. LOL. But I don't, so uhhhhhh
it's a bit meta, but the role PM examples have "You have X abilities". That's literally it. I have a flavor ability and MAYBE I have a power (not confirming that), so i don't know whether zaph is claiming vanilla whilst discarding the flavor ability he has, or if he's discarding flavor AND power and claiming vanilla. It doesn't take a lot of effort to assume that everyone has at least a flavor role when you're given a flavor role like mine, which I plan on revealing D2 because I don't know if it'll put me in danger to claim it D1. But even saying so puts me in some risk, but i'm alraedy on the likely-list-of-Night-1-kills simply by being a loud one along with sakura/tess/etc.
it's a bit meta, but the role PM examples have "You have X abilities". That's literally it. I have a flavor ability and MAYBE I have a power (not confirming that), so i don't know whether zaph is claiming vanilla whilst discarding the flavor ability he has, or if he's discarding flavor AND power and claiming vanilla. It doesn't take a lot of effort to assume that everyone has at least a flavor role when you're given a flavor role like mine, which I plan on revealing D2 because I don't know if it'll put me in danger to claim it D1. But even saying so puts me in some risk, but i'm alraedy on the likely-list-of-Night-1-kills simply by being a loud one along with sakura/tess/etc.
I still don't buy Zaph being mafia but if everyone believes a lynch is to the benefit of town (Statistically speaking, it kind of is, but this game has already thrown statistics and logic out the window) I might swap to Zaph. I'll think about it. I got 15 minutes, maybe someone else will wagon along with it.
screw it Lynch All Liars
Unvote
Vote: Zaphkael
Unvote
Vote: Zaphkael
Yeah, it is odd he chose to claim "vanilla" considering how our invitations are worded.
Zaph, want to clarify your role if you're still around?
Zaph, want to clarify your role if you're still around?
Shiirn wrote:
screw it Lynch All Liars
Unvote
Vote: Zaphkael
Oh my ^_^
So, 10 mins left.
Sup, Beeboy?
Sup, Beeboy?
how's life treating you haneii, long time no see
where were u when u heard shiirn was unban?
where were u when u heard shiirn was unban?
Life's okay, can't complain. You?
Also, you were banned??!!
Also, you were banned??!!
uh i dont have any flavour power? like not at all, i have a name and 'partygoer' thats all
I was banned! I didn't just leave! Like, perma-banned!
Life's good here too, i got released after a nine-month appeal process that was 99% me trying to contact and 1 email saying "ok fine ur unban" after 9 months of trying to contact
Life's good here too, i got released after a nine-month appeal process that was 99% me trying to contact and 1 email saying "ok fine ur unban" after 9 months of trying to contact
....beeboy123 wrote:
Sup.Haneii wrote:
So, 10 mins left.
Sup, Beeboy?
orz
Thanks, Zaph.
There is a decent chance Zeph is telling the truth but I am still opposed to a no-lynch.
Zaphkael: That's weird, though. From everyone's reactions, it seems like my gut feeling that i wasn't the only one with a weird flavor ability wasn't unjustified, but i dunno.
like i said, i don't think you're mafia, just a VI. But yeah....
like i said, i don't think you're mafia, just a VI. But yeah....
Shiirn wrote:
I was banned! I didn't just leave! Like, perma-banned!
Life's good here too, i got released after a nine-month appeal process that was 99% me trying to contact and 1 email saying "ok fine ur unban" after 9 months of trying to contact
My goodness D:
Welcome back <3
@beeboy, give me something.
a weird flavor ability that i assumed would completely screw with how i would need to play this game but turned out to be completely flavor-based and not actually related to mafia
word ur shit better frostings
(also mbomb's 'post restriction' gave me another example of a 'useless flavor ability' to base my gut off of)
word ur shit better frostings
(also mbomb's 'post restriction' gave me another example of a 'useless flavor ability' to base my gut off of)
Then act like you are :/beeboy123 wrote:
I am still opposed to a no-lynch.
I don't have anything to give you.
Nothing has changed since the last time I said.
Town {Tess, Shiirn}
Scum {Sakura, Mbomb}
I still don't know what you are doing, Zaph still feels like basic noob stuff and I still don't want to NL.
Nothing has changed since the last time I said.
Town {Tess, Shiirn}
Scum {Sakura, Mbomb}
I still don't know what you are doing, Zaph still feels like basic noob stuff and I still don't want to NL.
Oh well, I waited long enough.
vote: Zaph
vote: Zaph
"Lynch the VI" has been a longstanding tradition anyway, no?
Literally that is the only thing that people do on day 1 in mafiascum so Sakura would be proud.
lol ok this means im fucked. thanks frostings for not giving me flavour text!
Zaphkael wrote:
lol ok this means im fucked. thanks frostings for not giving me flavour text!
It prob had nothing to do with your claim. They just wanted a lynch.
I voted you mainly because at L-1, you'd most likely be the wagon for tomorrow (if scum plan right) creating a repeat of today.
Six, you're late!
Haneii's got a point, better to hammer an L-1 rather than spend most of the next day debating the pros and cons of re-wagoning the guy. Mathematically, the lynch works out in town's favor as well.
Should probably just stop posting and let Frostings do his thing.
Wait I think what I just did was against the rules .-.
Wait I am just going to play it off as I was randomly saying hi to Zexion because we are bros.
Don't worry about it
Don't worry about it
Yeah I was reading and got RL interrupted. What did you do that it was agaist the rules?
I have no regrets in the Zaph lynch.
I have no regrets in the Zaph lynch.
Also AFAIK posting after deadline is okay as long as the mod hasn't posted the lynch scene, so if it was that I suppose we're okay.
Also AFAIK posting after deadline is okay as long as the mod hasn't posted the lynch scene, so if it was that I suppose we're okay.
Yeah I thought it was against the rules to point out you where browsing the forum and didn't say anything. (that is against the rules in some places I believe)
I have no idea what osu's mafia rule are or if they've changed in the years I've been gone.
Topic Starter
As the first day of the party came to a close
The other guests told Zaphkael to go!
Sadly he left, leaving behind his mask
Yet the food kept disppearing; "Who is it?" they asked
He was a Partygoer (Town) [Vanilla Town]
The other guests told Zaphkael to go!
Sadly he left, leaving behind his mask
Yet the food kept disppearing; "Who is it?" they asked
Vote Count 1.12 (Final)
(6) Zaphkael: Tess, Xiz, Zexion, beeboy123, Shiirn, Haneii [Lynch!]
(1) Shiirn:Sakura
Not Voting: AutoMedic, -[Jess]-, Zaphkael, - Magic Bomb -
Zaphkael, Olivia the Owl has been kicked from the party (Lynched!)(6) Zaphkael: Tess, Xiz, Zexion, beeboy123, Shiirn, Haneii [Lynch!]
(1) Shiirn:Sakura
Not Voting: AutoMedic, -[Jess]-, Zaphkael, - Magic Bomb -
He was a Partygoer (Town) [Vanilla Town]
Topic Starter
The clock strikes 12.
It is Night 1. Actions are due in my inbox in 24 hours.
It is Night 1. Actions are due in my inbox in 24 hours.
Topic Starter
Sorry for the delay 
Resolving Night Actions
Resolving Night Actions
Topic Starter
In the Night, a nap in bed,
And in the morning, a missing friend!
Sakura, Simon the Snail has been kicked from the party (Night Killed!)
She was a Partygoer (Town) [Timekeeper]
It is 1 o'clock
And in the morning, a missing friend!
Sakura, Simon the Snail has been kicked from the party (Night Killed!)
She was a Partygoer (Town) [Timekeeper]
It is 1 o'clock
Topic Starter
Today is Day 2
Deadline is in 7 days
With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch
Deadline is in 7 days
Vote Count 2.0
Not Voting: AutoMedic, -[Jess]-, Haneii, - Magic Bomb -, Shiirn, Tess, Xiz, Zexion, beeboy123
Not Voting: AutoMedic, -[Jess]-, Haneii, - Magic Bomb -, Shiirn, Tess, Xiz, Zexion, beeboy123
With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch
the fuck is a timekeeper
technically the term would be Limited Reveal, not Closed setup. Because you're only revealing alignment. Or should have, but now you're revealing a potential power role without saying what it is.
Closed setup purely means we don't know what's going on before the game starts. Not revealing the full extent of a role after flip constitutes a reveal setup.
So this game is somewhere between Full Reveal and Limited Reveal where you tell us alignment and roles but not what the role does?
i'm not a fan of that. whatever power role sakura was, we have no idea of its relevance. I can only guess that a timekeeper would be some crude imitation of a Tracker or something.
Closed setup purely means we don't know what's going on before the game starts. Not revealing the full extent of a role after flip constitutes a reveal setup.
So this game is somewhere between Full Reveal and Limited Reveal where you tell us alignment and roles but not what the role does?
i'm not a fan of that. whatever power role sakura was, we have no idea of its relevance. I can only guess that a timekeeper would be some crude imitation of a Tracker or something.
I mean, I know Town needs a burden because of the 9:2 ratio (a 12-player setup typically has 3 mafia) but it shouldn't be done by making things confusing for us. =\ idk we'll just have to speculate i guess
Okay I'm back @mod, cancel my replacement. my tournament duties are finished
Anyway, sakura flipped town and now my predictions are titsup
Since zaph also flipped town, my reads have been flipped
my gut tells me to vote beeboy but thar sn't justified so i'll have to wait
Anyway, sakura flipped town and now my predictions are titsup
Since zaph also flipped town, my reads have been flipped
my gut tells me to vote beeboy but thar sn't justified so i'll have to wait
I liked what shin just posted. Top town today so far. Even though nothing has happened yet lolololol
also my b on the zaph wagon. I pretty much lead that. I'll take the peeps on that wagon more seriously tomorrow
i'm so hard to read
Any PR here?
As I said before, I have no regrets in the Zaph lynch. Also I'm surprised to see no reaction from Beeboy in Sakura flipping town.
I want to know what MB is thinking.
This is just me doing setup spec but Sakura may have had a power about the famous clock in this game.
I want to know what MB is thinking.
This is just me doing setup spec but Sakura may have had a power about the famous clock in this game.
MBomb
MBomb
Sakura was beyond a bad kill for a variety of reason (even if she didn't replace out) and Mbomb justifying probably means he preformed the kill.
hueuheuehuehueheuehauehauhuahueaheuaheubeeboy123 wrote:
Don't say that while I am town reading you pls
i mean i did predict sakura as a headache kill, does that scum paint me since i practically predicted it and it happened? or did scum kill her because they figured it would implicate me or did am i scum and i did it because no way would anyone think i was audacious enough to predict a sakura kill and then actually do it and then people wonder why i thrive on wifom
but really overall i'm both impressed and disappointed by a sakura kill. it's just blatant enough to both be expected yet unexpected enough to actually implicate anyone directly due how wifom-tastic her removal is.
which heavily implicates me because i've spent quite a while building up my enjoyment of wifom, damn.
objectively speaking, zaph flipping vanilla townie makes me feel awkward, while sakura flipping a potential power role that we have no idea what abilities it has actively pisses me off.
the problem is, my logic falters a bit because sakura's death is just incredibly wifom-tastic if i want to list off the various players and their possible chances for wanting sakura to be removed. I thrive in wifom and excel at turning what most people give up as a 50-50 into an 80-20 or better odds in my favor, but not many people enjoy playing like that so if i take over sakura's place as "biggest headache" i'll probably be dead by D3 and all the dice rolls in the world won';t stop that
The Sakura kill was without a doubt a fear kill that wasn't thought through.
Sakura is exactly who scum wants to leave alive.
1. A player being scum read by a good portion of the loud players.
2. A players whose alignment will always be in a major grey zone.
3. A highly respected player that people can't confidently read since at any point scum can just pull the "Sakura is just good as scum" card and people will eat it up.
Like Sakura had every single feature needed for an easy mislynch.
Sakura is exactly who scum wants to leave alive.
1. A player being scum read by a good portion of the loud players.
2. A players whose alignment will always be in a major grey zone.
3. A highly respected player that people can't confidently read since at any point scum can just pull the "Sakura is just good as scum" card and people will eat it up.
Like Sakura had every single feature needed for an easy mislynch.
Now from whose perspective would Sakura be a hard lynch or a good fear kill target?
Mbomb and Automedic
I was already scum reading Mbomb and this is just the icying on the cake (i don't know exactly what this saying is)
Mbomb and Automedic
I was already scum reading Mbomb and this is just the icying on the cake (i don't know exactly what this saying is)
There is also the chance scum just killed an empty slot because they are comfortable with the current game state and they didn't want to attempt to alter it which would point at Tess being scum but meh there are situations where everyone is scum.
Oh I also forgot Sakura was scum reading Zexion.
{Mbomb, Automedic, Zexion}
We should be looking here.
{Mbomb, Automedic, Zexion}
We should be looking here.
that's the kind of thinking i'm going through. every player has various reasons to want sakura gone, and every possible scum player knows they can point at another player's actions or reasoning to hide their own.
As far as a 'fear' kill... I don't know. Sakura accused pretty much everyone of being scum.... i'll figure it out later
As far as a 'fear' kill... I don't know. Sakura accused pretty much everyone of being scum.... i'll figure it out later
Pretty sure she was being questioned a lot, I really doubt it would have been so easy as you say.- Magic Bomb - wrote:
Also, Sakura death was expected. She was being far too active and would've been able to carry the game herself most likely.
I think I get beeboy's logic on this one, but I'm not really sure she was the worst kill per se, but yeah, there might have been others.
So we're going by the logic town=correct reads?beeboy123 wrote:
Oh I also forgot Sakura was scum reading Zexion.
{Mbomb, Automedic, Zexion}
We should be looking here.
Tho I kinda agree on the other two. I was already wary of AutoMedic yesterday.
Read what Mbomb says and try telling me again he wouldn't kill Sakura out of fear.
Weird things happen in Osu mafia.
Weird things happen in Osu mafia.
I know this doesn't mean a lot but I would personally never kill Sakura as scum especially given this game state.
How funny would it be if the scum team is Zexion and Shiirn?
vote:MagicBomb- Magic Bomb - wrote:
Also, Sakura death was expected.
Vote: Shiirn
That Sakura kill was either a means to frame Shiirn or Shiirn making it look like it was a means to frame Shiirn. And I'm pretty sure if it was a means to frame Shiirn then Xiz and beeboy are scum. I'm kinda busy atm and had to skim through the thread a bit but yeah, I'll explain more later. Either way Shiirn's reply was a bit too wifom for me. Like "Hey it could be me but uh it could also not be me." No one had mentioned him being the possible target yet and yet he went and posted that right away.
Of course no one else is noticing this and beeboy is reading him town, you what? Why the fuck is he town?
If Shiirn flips scum either beeboy is being silly or he's scum as well. If not beeboy then my next target would be Xiz. Why the fuck would you vote Mbomb for that reason? He's been nyathing but null so far.
That Sakura kill was either a means to frame Shiirn or Shiirn making it look like it was a means to frame Shiirn. And I'm pretty sure if it was a means to frame Shiirn then Xiz and beeboy are scum. I'm kinda busy atm and had to skim through the thread a bit but yeah, I'll explain more later. Either way Shiirn's reply was a bit too wifom for me. Like "Hey it could be me but uh it could also not be me." No one had mentioned him being the possible target yet and yet he went and posted that right away.
Of course no one else is noticing this and beeboy is reading him town, you what? Why the fuck is he town?
If Shiirn flips scum either beeboy is being silly or he's scum as well. If not beeboy then my next target would be Xiz. Why the fuck would you vote Mbomb for that reason? He's been nyathing but null so far.
Am I the only person who would have wanted to keep Sakura alive there in the night? I don't see how it's an expected kill at all.
He/she rage quit out. Thats one less person to worry about, so I would have targeted someone who might be more valuable to lead, that's still here.
Beeboy said it well though, might be a fearkill. I only know like 4 of you so I can't really FOS here.
He/she rage quit out. Thats one less person to worry about, so I would have targeted someone who might be more valuable to lead, that's still here.
Beeboy said it well though, might be a fearkill. I only know like 4 of you so I can't really FOS here.
I somewhat secretly hope that beeboy is scum, I haven't been played in a long time haha
From Shiirn's POV Sakura must have been an easy mislynch.
Why kill an easy mislynch?
Why kill an easy mislynch?
Also I totally skipped over this post. Beeboy top 3 town confirmed.beeboy123 wrote:
I know this doesn't mean a lot but I would personally never kill Sakura as scum especially given this game state.
Also I'mma be AFK for most of the day, going to the zoo on a date.
GONNA SEE ME SOME LOCKED ANIMALS.
GONNA WATCH SOME GIRAFFES EAT DAT GREEN.
GONNA GET HUNGRY AND ME GONNA EAT SOME OVERPRICED FOODZ.
pce
GONNA SEE ME SOME LOCKED ANIMALS.
GONNA WATCH SOME GIRAFFES EAT DAT GREEN.
GONNA GET HUNGRY AND ME GONNA EAT SOME OVERPRICED FOODZ.
pce
MBomb
...why does this make him appear more town.Xiz wrote:
Also I totally skipped over this post. Beeboy top 3 town confirmed.beeboy123 wrote:
I know this doesn't mean a lot but I would personally never kill Sakura as scum especially given this game state.
Like seriously if anything this should make him appear scum, specifically saying "oh I wouldn't kill this person if I was scum" is what scum would do to hide.
Also I like how people are being suspicious of zexion because sakura was scumread whilst also being suspicious of me because sakura townread me.
MBomb
Tess's reads seem to agree with mine but then again I have a bad tendancy of only being able to really find scum traits in people who are suspicious of me (see every game where I'm suspected ever)
However Beeboy's statement was very scummy for reasons mentioned in the previous post. Xiz's post was also scummy for agreeing with that, as there is no reason to agree with that.
I know you have a tendancy to play idiot town, so I'm not gonna follow on you too much for now, but beeboy scum is definitely a possibility.
However Beeboy's statement was very scummy for reasons mentioned in the previous post. Xiz's post was also scummy for agreeing with that, as there is no reason to agree with that.
Tell me, how does one sentence show that much fear to you, of a person who was townreading me especially? Now I'm not gonna go on about that too long because of wifom, but it just seems like you're using a post which is of little meaning other than "Sakura was the best candidate for any scum to kill", which as scum, I would never post considering how obviously suspected that would get me.beeboy123 wrote:
Read what Mbomb says and try telling me again he wouldn't kill Sakura out of fear.
Weird things happen in Osu mafia.
I know you have a tendancy to play idiot town, so I'm not gonna follow on you too much for now, but beeboy scum is definitely a possibility.
MBomb
MBomb
Fucking hell though beeboy you do say the scummiest things like damn.beeboy123 wrote:
There is also the chance scum just killed an empty slot because they are comfortable with the current game state and they didn't want to attempt to alter it which would point at Tess being scum but meh there are situations where everyone is scum.
MBomb
I wonder how the people here would react if they learned I carry town a lot on MS >_>
Topic Starter
Vote Count 2.1
(2) - Magic Bomb - : beeboy123, Xiz
(1) Shiirn : Tess
(1) Xiz: - Magic Bomb -
Not Voting: AutoMedic, -[Jess]-, Haneii, Shiirn, Zexion
(2) - Magic Bomb - : beeboy123, Xiz
(1) Shiirn : Tess
(1) Xiz: - Magic Bomb -
Not Voting: AutoMedic, -[Jess]-, Haneii, Shiirn, Zexion