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notscience
Because a wagon suddenly losing all its steam around deadline (a la jess d2) is sketchy as fuck.
Drezi
Lol he's still at L-1 for all intents and purposes, MB just unvoted because he's being careful now for whatever reason after saini's been at L-1 for a while already.
notscience
I stand corrected, Haneii hasn't voted all day.

Regardless, there's also the whole "one of the doublevoters is scum" thing.
Drezi
Ace is one too.
notscience
And this gets back to if slaini flips town we can lynch ace tomorrow!
Drezi
and the opposite is not true because? I'd rather you have a neighbour.
notscience
Here's my question for you, drezi

Noone's claimed to have targetted slaini.

Do you think a scumteam with ace is likely to kill him? Because I don't.
notscience
Now you're just looking for excuses not to lynch slaini holy fuck.
Topic Starter
Sakura
Vote Count 4.12

sLaiNi (3) - notscience, Setsuen, Amianki [L-2]
Ace Timing (3) - sLaiNi, Raging Bull, Drezi [L-2]


Not Voting (3) - Haneii, Ace Timing, - Magic Bomb -

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch
sLaiNi

notscience wrote:

Here's my question for you, drezi

Noone's claimed to have targetted slaini.

Do you think a scumteam with ace is likely to kill him? Because I don't.
And Ace hasn't had any good explanation to why he didn't hear any sounds correctly, which is even a proof, while everything to me is just speculation.

Why are you so desperately trying to have no neighbour.
notscience
Look how slaini is responding to me.

It's all woe is me, throwing everything he can to hope it gets him out of a lynch.

But that's somehow something town would do?
Drezi
Are you kidding me, have you even read my exchange with him. You're the one who's "fine with lynching either Ace or slaini":

notscience wrote:

I'm frankly fine with just lynching AT/Slaini because one of them is going to flip scum.
but doesn't want Ace lynched the slightest in practice.
notscience
Because given what I've seen, I expect ace to get lynched, me to die, and then you all to give slaini a pass.

So fuck that noise.
Drezi
Slaini is still L-1, I simply placed a vote generating some good discussion and you're panicking for no reason :^)
notscience
Because it's almost time for deadline and someone unvoted then disappeared and everyone else seems to be awol?

But sure.

I panic due to you.
notscience
Well guys I'm going to go lurk so drezi townreads me, see you after 5 prods!
Drezi
weak
notscience
Like your reasons to not be voting slaini

And your townread on jess

right?
Drezi
just like your scumread on Jess, if you actually knew that she's equally useless as town aswell.
Drezi
noise is fine, but I had been scumreading your slot so it wasn't saying much for me.
sLaiNi

notscience wrote:

Like your reasons to not be voting slaini

And your townread on jess

right?
Because I got prod twice, one of that being 1 month ago?
Drezi
And it's like double bullshit, I don't have any strong reasons not to be voting slaini and will do it if it takes me to change my vote to get a lynch today, and I didn't really have a townread on Jess, as much as a scumread on someone else, who I felt would've been a better lynch informationwise aswell.
Drezi
But I guess reading comprehension isn't your strength, because you've been misrepping me whole game.
MBomb
If it goes another hour and Haneii still isn't here, I'm putting my vote back on slaini (Or Ace if you convince me otherwise).
sLaiNi

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

If it goes another hour and Haneii still isn't here, I'm putting my vote back on slaini (Or Ace if you convince me otherwise).
Be so free and explain why me instead of Ace.
Amianki
This drezi vs notscience thing is completely pointless.

Can we just not continue it, thanks.
sLaiNi
Actually this thing decides who gets lynched . And if it doesn't decide it soon, we'll end up lynching no-one which is the worst that can happen.

I really have to go to sleep as I got ill and I don't want to let this state last longer as necessary.


Last reminder:

If people don't realize that Ace is the better lynch, then please all jump over to me before a nolynch can happen (I would myself but I'm sleeping by then)

And second:
Drezi is town and I don't get NS' tunneling, that seems really scummy especially given the fact that he'll be unbearable by then. If he's scum then its Gg. But he is much to obviously tunneling for a scum I guess.
sLaiNi
'Unhearable not unbearable
MBomb
Ok, decided.

Vote: Ace
notscience
vote ace

We're lynching slaini tomorrow.

Jeezus fucknig christ.
notscience
ATTENTION

IF I DIE

YOU LYNCH SLAINI

IF IM ALIVE

YOU LYNCH SLAINI

IF YOU DONT LYNCH SLAINI AFTER ACE FLIPS TOWN, WE DESERVE TO LOSE

that is all.
Drezi
are you saying he'll flip town?
notscience
No, I'm saying you haven't actually read what I've been posting today.
Drezi

notscience wrote:

AFTER ACE FLIPS TOWN
notscience
But anyways, here's probably what happens

TOmorrow comes, slaini gets to L-1

You all wimp out again and lynch ank or something

Scum wins

Slaini is scum

"oh man you totally got us!"
notscience
Congratulations, you can quote my posts.

for someone so big into accusations over reading comprehension, you sure have trouble comprehending my stance on slaini vs ace.
Drezi
omg I'm well aware what's your stance, but as far as I'm concerned this wording is not conditional, and given you've been strongly agaisnt an Ace lynch lately I specifically asked if you're expecting him to flip town now...
Drezi
BUT I GUESS SUCH COMPLICATED INTRICACIES ARE TOO DAMN HARD TO FIGURE OUT ON YOUR OWN WITHOUT ME SPELLING IT OUT. for fucks sake you're goddamn irritating.
notscience
Yes.

Because slaini's woe is me is scummy as fuck, but you guys are buying it so there's nothing I can do with 3 hours to go.
notscience
You're one to talk.
notscience
It's nothing ace is doing so much as it's what slaini is doing, because I don't think both of them are scum. I think Slaini is scum whose buddy targetted ace with a scrambler thing. If they were scum together, slaini wouldn't have claimed to have heard anything, or they could have had ace kill amianki or something, but they didn't. So they aren't scum together, which is why I think that ace is town.
Drezi

notscience wrote:

Yes.

so there's nothing I can do with 3 hours to go.
I guess waiting if Ace actually decided to post something about stuff that happened was something we couldn't afford.
notscience
I don't trust people to hammer, given the no lynch day 2.

And pretty much everyone on ace's wagon seems pretty dead set in believing slaini, so I doubt he would have ended up the lynch regardless.
Drezi
If you're around, you don't need someone else.

Also I said I'd be willing to vote slaini if we aren't lynching Ace.
notscience
I, in all honesty, didn't believe you would.
Drezi
Also like "intent to hammer" so we can react before is pretty standard I think.
notscience
We knew he was a doublevoter.
Drezi
The fact that you say you're willing to hammer him too can change stuff, especially in a situation like this where we have two very viable wagons. Not saying it would've happened, but it's a possibility.
notscience
I know it could have.

But given the activity, I aired on the side of caution.
Topic Starter
Sakura
Final Vote Count Day 4

Ace Timing (5) - sLaiNi, Raging Bull, Drezi, - Magic Bomb -, notscience [LYNCH!]
sLaiNi (2) - Setsuen, Amianki

Not Voting (2) - Haneii, Ace Timing

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch
Topic Starter
Sakura
notscience: sLaiNi needs to be lynched!
Ace: I heard sounds from sLaini too
sLaiNi: I've figured it out guyyzzz it's totes Ace!!!
Ace: What the
Amianki: Did you hear sounds?
Ace: No direction
MB: Yeah let's lynch Ace
notscience: He's town! we lynch sLaiNi tomorrow!
Drezi: How do you know he's town?
notscience: You know what fuck it!

notscience pushes Ace off the tree who falls and falls and falls splat on the ground.... but were they right?


Ace Timing Outsider Middle Man (Mafia D2 Double Voter) has been lynched Day 4
Ace Timing

Sakura wrote:

Hi, you are an Outsider Middle Man (Mafia D2 Double Voter)
You're usually the one that mediates transactions, and as such with information gathered for a day you are more confident in your arguments.
D2 Double Voter: During Day 2 your votes will count as 2. You may only vote one player.
-REDACTED-

You win when your faction controls half the votes, or nothing can prevent this from happening
Topic Starter
Sakura
~Night 4~
- The Outsider -

Current Housing
[-VACANT-]
[Setsuen]
[- Magic Bomb -]
[Haneii]
[Raging Bull]
[-VACANT-]
[Amianki]
[-VACANT-]
[sLaiNi]
[notscience]
[-VACANT-]
[-VACANT-]
[Drezi]


Deadline for Night actions is 24 hours as of this post.
Topic Starter
Sakura
It's that time again, as the sun rises in the background everyone gathers to find there's... a body on the ground.

Drezi Treehouse Inhabtant (Town Vanilla) has been Killed Night 4
Drezi

Sakura wrote:

Hi, you are a Treehouse Inhabitant (Town Vanilla)
You've been living peacefully here but some people decide to make this tree their own place.
During the day, you may vote and talk.
During the night, you may sleep.

You win when all the invaders have been kicked out of the tree house.

~Day 5~
- The Keymaster -
Current Housing

[-VACANT-]
[Setsuen]
[- Magic Bomb -]
[Haneii]
[Raging Bull]
[-VACANT-]
[Amianki]
[-VACANT-]
[sLaiNi]
[notscience]
[-VACANT-]
[-VACANT-]
[-VACANT-]


Deadline for Hammer is in 7 days, or 9/15 16:00 GMT-5

Vote Count 5.0

Not Voting (7) - Setsuen, - Magic Bomb -, Haneii, Raging Bull, Amianki, sLaiNi, notscience

With 7 Alive it takes 4 to Lynch
MBomb
Vote: Amianki
notscience
I heard sounds above me again.
notscience
And yes, I know that ace got lynched yesterday an dflipped scum.

But we still have a doublevoter that is making noise and noone claiming to have targetted him.
Setsuen
I GOT NO REPORT. ALL BC OF MB BEING A NON VISITING ROLE WHO DID NOTHING AND GOT VISITED BY NOTHING

>Also killing drezi off when her neighbours are dead.


notscience wrote:

And yes, I know that ace got lynched yesterday an dflipped scum.

But we still have a doublevoter that is making noise and noone claiming to have targetted him.

slani still making noise? Seriously?
Raging Bull
You seem mad for confirming a town.

Ugh idk right now. I thought drezi was scum since NK didnt happen last night
Haneii

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Vote: Amianki
It's not amianki. If he was scum with AT, he would have performed the nightkill N2 instead of Jess (ie: no townie would hear him).

Vote: RB
sLaiNi
Haneii, am i right itf i assume that either xou die a nightaction or you heard sounds from both above and below?
sLaiNi
Mobile phone...
Haneii
No, slaini. I neither performed a night action (I can't) and I didn't hear anything last night.

Did you hear anything coming from NS?

sLaiNi wrote:

Mobile phone...
I just finished interpreting 30+ spelling diagnostics (mainly 6 - 7 year olds). I can make out anything XD
sLaiNi
Thanks for understanding my spelling there xD

Yes, I heard sounds from him.

If he doesn't lie, that would mean we had 3 night abilities used. 1 on me 1 on NS 1 on Drezi.

If no-one up there at your block claims that there were sounds heard, then the only one that could've made an action was amianki, which in that case was the kill on Drezi and would neither let me nor NS make sounds. If we assume that Setsuen is miller, it would actually be impossible as only RB couldve either targeted me or NS, but not both at a time.

This would mean NS lied about my sounds and did the kill or a town action. But if he was town he had no reason to lie about my sounds.

Vote NS
Setsuen
slani does know that the (probably last) scum are NOT very smart right?
If they were, they would have killed MB and framed me instead of killing drezi which they can ALSO have framed.
Raging Bull
Whats that vote for? And i cant do anymore action as my last one was on drezi. I thought he was scum from lack of kill, but at that time i didnt think of a protective role.
Raging Bull
How do you kill drezi and then frame you?....
Setsuen
if you have actually read properly what my sentence meant it would have meant to you: scum could have framed drezi too instead of killing her off.
notscience
vote slaini

I'm fine with trading my life for a scum
notscience
For those who can't read: Yes, I heard Slaini!
Topic Starter
Sakura
Vote Count 5.01

Amianki (1) - - Magic Bomb -
Raging Bull (1) - Haneii
notscience (1) - sLaiNi
sLaiNi (1) - notscience

Not Voting (3) - Setsuen, Raging Bull, Amianki

With 7 Alive it takes 4 to Lynch
notscience
Note: With no other sound claims, we sort this out today.

That is all.
sLaiNi
Doesnt framing let a person be investigated as scum?

Why the heck should they frame a miller?
Setsuen
I don't mean the role called framer. I am VERY SURE A LOT OF PERSON KNOW WHAT I MEAN.
Setsuen
People*

I don't even care anymore. Scum/s were not smart for killing drezi which indicate they are not very new to this.
Amianki
Notscience: I targeted sLaiNi last night.
Amianki
Drezi kill makes total sense, by the way. Their kill on notscience failed night 3 so they know a doctor is in the game.
notscience
That's all fine and dandy, but that doesn't excuse the night before.
notscience
I'd figured you were the doctor towards the end of yesterday, regardless.
MBomb
Oh by the way, Setsuen is confirmed town, Haneii probably confirmed town unless their bolded name is due to their actions being invisible or something.
notscience
Do you understand my reservations, Ank?
Topic Starter
Sakura
Vote Count 5.02

Amianki (1) - - Magic Bomb -
Raging Bull (1) - Haneii
notscience (1) - sLaiNi
sLaiNi (1) - notscience

Not Voting (3) - Setsuen, Raging Bull, Amianki

With 7 Alive it takes 4 to Lynch
Amianki
Reservations towards what exactly?
sLaiNi
Is everyone sure that there is only one scum left?

MB and RB, could you claim your sounds, please.
notscience

Amianki wrote:

Reservations towards what exactly?
Slaini.

I still heard him yesterday, and knowing I'm town and wouldnt lie means that he did something.

I think his push on ace was angling for a last second distance.
MBomb

sLaiNi wrote:

Is everyone sure that there is only one scum left?

MB and RB, could you claim your sounds, please.
I already claimed sounds, but once again, I heard nothing.

And I'm not completely sure, but it makes sense given the 13 players.
Amianki
Yeah.

I think massclaim isn't a bad idea at this point, honestly. At least action claims.
Setsuen

Amianki wrote:

Drezi kill makes total sense, by the way. Their kill on notscience failed night 3 so they know a doctor is in the game.
Still does NOT explain how Haneii got bolded D4. For all we know it could be a ninja who targetted Haneii or something.

sLaiNi wrote:

Is everyone sure that there is only one scum left?.
4Scums in 13P is very scum sided.

Amianki wrote:

Yeah.

I think massclaim isn't a bad idea at this point, honestly. At least action claims.
I stole Sakura's vote. Ask her to vote plz. I tot stole her vote.
Raging Bull
No sound above. Wont mind claiming today. Best course of action imo since should be one scum left. Im certain haneii just cant hear sounds and vice versa unless haneii lied d4.
Raging Bull
Which i dont see happening
Haneii
Mass claim actions? For N3 and 4 :D
Setsuen

Haneii wrote:

Mass claim actions? For N3 and 4 :D
N3-Stole Haneii'svote
N4-Stole Sakura's vote

New role:Triple Voter.
Raging Bull
I think with the scum flip on dvs, we should have two conf town + mb and setsuen and CB. Leaves me and NS.

Soooo

vote NS
Setsuen
so why are you more interested in lynching NS over slani?
sLaiNi
Besides the facts that:

1. I tried to lynch Ace and he tried to save him desperatlely before saying "fire this" and vote him
2. I seem to be the only one that noticed his role yesterday and he didn't get NKed
3. I created a perfect explanation to what happened yesterday

But as you don't take this game serious anymore anyway, I should not put that much effort into this explanation
MBomb
I don't think I need to say actions considering no sounds have been heard from me, and you can see whenever my action was used anyway (As in D2 you saw positions swap).
MBomb
Oh also

Unvote
MBomb

Raging Bull wrote:

I think with the scum flip on dvs, we should have two conf town + mb and setsuen and CB. Leaves me and NS.

Soooo

vote NS
Also just saying whilst it's highly unlikely, there is a chance there are 2 scum doublevoters. However, I've heard no sounds from Haneii. I'm pretty sure either sLaini or NS is the last scum. (The reason for my vote on Amianki was due to no one being able to hear him for the most part, and to put a tiny bit of pressure onto him, as well as the fact that I said earlier on that I thought either slaini or Amianki was scum but I don't know which one. However, after both slalni and NS are claiming to have heard sounds from each other, it seems highly unlikely that both are town). At the same time, I'm still unsure about Haneii's bolded name. There is a chance that it means we can't detect their actions if they take any, and so me not hearing any sound from Haneii would be irrelevant.
MBomb
However, it seems far too risky that slaini would claim they heard sounds from NS if slaini was scum, as that would basically be a surefire lynch the next day anyway, when NS flipped town. However this does not work the other way around, as Amianki claimed to target slaini last night.
MBomb

Haneii wrote:

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Vote: Amianki
It's not amianki. If he was scum with AT, he would have performed the nightkill N2 instead of Jess (ie: no townie would hear him).

Vote: RB
Also, another thing, did you hear noise from RB?
MBomb
Oh, sorry for so much posts in a row, this is the 6th now...

I don't think slaini or NS are scum now, if I think about it. Both NS and slaini were viable kill targets for last night, and if one had been killed, the other would have no neighbours. One could have killed the other without being suspicious themselves as much as usual. Instead they decided to kill Drezi. Drezi whom had been scumread by NS, and hadn't been scumreading slaini either, past saying he'd change his vote if it was needed. Sure, he was basically confirmed town at this stage due to his persistance to stay on the AT wagon unless something drastic changed, and also the fact Jess/Ace would've never performed the NK if Drezi was scum, due to Drezi having no neighbours, but it'd have been better for scum to have waited one more night and got rid of a higher priority target, if it was one of those two.
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