1. looking good to me. o3o

1. there are a lot of unnecessary green lines, please delete them - http://puu.sh/iVbZ5.png
2. 00:00:103 (1,2) - I knooow it's the very first objects but the red tick is the exact same sound as (1). :c why don't you use a short slider instead of a circle?
3. 00:01:698 (3,1) - the tick change is confusing, especially for beginners, because there's a beat at 00:02:177 - but no object. Extend (3) til the red tick, or (becasue the white tick is louder), try this instead -
   
   I know there are many similar patterns where you ignore beats, but this is the most confusing one, imo. (The others are confusing, too, and tbh I'd prefer if all of them were changed, but you probably have your reason to ignore some louder beats and use this rhythm, so I won't point them out.)
4. 00:20:368 (3,4) - super minor and nitpicking here, but move (4) a grid to the left please :b
5. 00:21:166 (4,5) - the rhythm's a little confusing. it's very similar to 00:11:432 (3) - but mapped totally differently. might be better if this is more consistent? or try this -
   

1. some unnecessary green lines, too. - http://puu.sh/iVc0C.png
2. 00:06:805 (4,5) - imo, this plays better if you unstack them, cause this slows the player down.
3. 00:09:039 (3) - reverse here feels off, becaue the reverse emphasizes a beat you've ignored before. Consider using a 1/1 slider or emphasize more of the other beats. example -
   
4. 00:16:698 (3) - I'm not sure what this reverse is mapped to. O: sounds a little off to me, maybe you like this better? -
   
5. 00:19:890 (4,1) - sounds so abrupt, there's still a beat on the white tick and the vocals go on, too. consider extending (4)
6. 00:30:103 (5,1) - same as ^, how aboout adding a circle in-between?
7. 00:32:656 (4,1) - and here, the second red beat at (4) should be mapped somehow. you can shorten (4) and add a circle again to emphasize this better. or try this -
   
8. 01:05:528 (5,6) - same as 00:06:805 (4,5), unstack? slowing down players isn't a bad thing, but here I feel like it doesn't match the melody. it plays awesome here for exmaple 01:00:422 (2,3) - but ya. up to you!
   same - 01:08:081 (4,5) -
   01:10:634 (4,5) - etc
9. 01:23:560 (1,2,3) - because of the previous combo this might throw players off. I'd prefer a reverse slider here, also matches the previous patterns better. -
   

1. greeeeeeen lineees - http://puu.sh/iVceH.png
2. 00:09:517 (6,7,1) - flow is weird, can you rotate 00:10:156 (1,2) - by -45° and move it further to the right? feels a lot better
3. 00:14:464 (6,1) - I'd prefer if you unstack them, because that'd match better with the song. There is a break in the vocals here, but while the vocals slow down before the break and are very weak after the break, the SV doesn't match them. It feels like the speed matches the rhythm and the music just goes on.. just my view, ofc. >w<
4. 00:17:496 (6,1) - same here
5. 00:19:571 (5,1) - and here
6. 00:43:507 (1,1) - this plays weird, imo. the slider matches the vocals, but the vocals start way sooner at 00:44:464 - where the spinner ends. tbh I don't know how you can change this to make it play better without making the spinner too short. Maybe you can replace the spinner with a slider? -
   :/
7. 00:50:528 (1,2,3,4) - this is weird to play, too, imo, because of the jump and then the regular spacing. The beat on (4) is SO MUCH louder than the others but the spacing before is back to the regular 1.2 .. :c There should be an even bigger jump, imo.
8. 01:08:241 (3,4) - eh, parallel sliders might looks better :b

1. 00:08:081 (2) - ctrl+g for better flow, then ctrl+g 00:08:400 (3) - too
2. 00:11:751 (1,1) - NCs are unnecessary, imo. anti-jumps should be readable at this difficulty without NCs
3. 00:20:688 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5) - that seems overmapped. :/ there's a background sound, but it's so beraly audiable.. it's weird to not follow the vocals or the beat better here. :c up to you, I'd prefer a different rhythm
4. 00:43:507 (1,1) - same as in Hard

Squirrel wrote:

hey there!
took a me a while, but here's my mod! -
just making suggestions, feel free to disagree! :3

General

1. looking good to me. o3o

Easy

1. there are a lot of unnecessary green lines, please delete them - http://puu.sh/iVbZ5.png Did it.
2. 00:00:103 (1,2) - I knooow it's the very first objects but the red tick is the exact same sound as (1). :c why don't you use a short slider instead of a circle? True, and it is quite strong at the same time. But since this Easy, you can't go and make the difficulty hard right off the bat, this is like a warm-up before kiai I guess.
3. 00:01:698 (3,1) - the tick change is confusing, especially for beginners, because there's a beat at 00:02:177 - but no object. Extend (3) til the red tick, or (becasue the white tick is louder), try this instead - Again, I wouldn't wanna go hard right off the bat in easy difficulties. Your pattern is feasible enough, but I think that confuses beginners even more.
   
   I know there are many similar patterns where you ignore beats, but this is the most confusing one, imo. (The others are confusing, too, and tbh I'd prefer if all of them were changed, but you probably have your reason to ignore some louder beats and use this rhythm, so I won't point them out.) Actually not ignoring them will make the star difficulty rise up till it doesn't have a Easy icon :/ It is fine to ignore notes in Easy, and that is my opinion.
4. 00:20:368 (3,4) - super minor and nitpicking here, but move (4) a grid to the left please :b Oh I didn't notice inconsistency. Fixed.
5. 00:21:166 (4,5) - the rhythm's a little confusing. it's very similar to 00:11:432 (3) - but mapped totally differently. might be better if this is more consistent? or try this - Changed in a different way.
   

Normal

1. some unnecessary green lines, too. - http://puu.sh/iVc0C.png Did it again.
2. 00:06:805 (4,5) - imo, this plays better if you unstack them, cause this slows the player down. That doesn't matter much though...
3. 00:09:039 (3) - reverse here feels off, becaue the reverse emphasizes a beat you've ignored before. Consider using a 1/1 slider or emphasize more of the other beats. example - I am just following the pattern I did in 00:02:496 (1,2,3,4) - .
   
4. 00:16:698 (3) - I'm not sure what this reverse is mapped to. O: sounds a little off to me, maybe you like this better? - Trying to follow the vocals here, since it is pretty strong compared to the music.
   
5. 00:19:890 (4,1) - sounds so abrupt, there's still a beat on the white tick and the vocals go on, too. consider extending (4) Following the lyrics, since it is 2 syllabus in a 1/2 spacing, I am using a 1/2 slider to express that. Furthermore, her voice is strong here, too.
6. 00:30:103 (5,1) - same as ^, how aboout adding a circle in-between? That will be the same reason like above.
7. 00:32:656 (4,1) - and here, the second red beat at (4) should be mapped somehow. you can shorten (4) and add a circle again to emphasize this better. or try this - She is definitely singing loud here, should map as this slider to emphasize on that.
   
8. 01:05:528 (5,6) - same as 00:06:805 (4,5), unstack? slowing down players isn't a bad thing, but here I feel like it doesn't match the melody. it plays awesome here for exmaple 01:00:422 (2,3) - but ya. up to you! I will think about this. Originally placed this because the pitch is pretty even.
   same - 01:08:081 (4,5) -
   01:10:634 (4,5) - etc For all this, I will do the same like above I guess.
9. 01:23:560 (1,2,3) - because of the previous combo this might throw players off. I'd prefer a reverse slider here, also matches the previous patterns better. - True, but I think that players can be adapted into the song's rhythm after 1 minutes and 20 secs, so I don't think this is that much of a hard pattern for Normal.
   

Hard

1. greeeeeeen lineees - http://puu.sh/iVceH.png Did it again
2. 00:09:517 (6,7,1) - flow is weird, can you rotate 00:10:156 (1,2) - by -45° and move it further to the right? feels a lot better Didn't really change it that way, instead curved (6) to smooth out the flow I guess. I actually wanted to break the flow here though...
3. 00:14:464 (6,1) - I'd prefer if you unstack them, because that'd match better with the song. There is a break in the vocals here, but while the vocals slow down before the break and are very weak after the break, the SV doesn't match them. It feels like the speed matches the rhythm and the music just goes on.. just my view, ofc. >w< These are pretty common in Hard. Making this traps really can smooth out the flow for next few notes. It opens up more options for the patterns after stacking these. Just think these as a intentional traps, my explanations are the worst xD
4. 00:17:496 (6,1) - same here
5. 00:19:571 (5,1) - and here All these reasons are the same as above.
6. 00:43:507 (1,1) - this plays weird, imo. the slider matches the vocals, but the vocals start way sooner at 00:44:464 - where the spinner ends. tbh I don't know how you can change this to make it play better without making the spinner too short. Maybe you can replace the spinner with a slider? - Nah, I think expressing the vocal starting with the spinner's end is also ok.
   :/
7. 00:50:528 (1,2,3,4) - this is weird to play, too, imo, because of the jump and then the regular spacing. The beat on (4) is SO MUCH louder than the others but the spacing before is back to the regular 1.2 .. :c There should be an even bigger jump, imo. I'll see what other modders think about this.
8. 01:08:241 (3,4) - eh, parallel sliders might looks better :b Opps, this were meant to be parallel. Fixed.

Insane
I can't play this diff. Sorry. orz but some things that caught my eye -

1. 00:08:081 (2) - ctrl+g for better flow, then ctrl+g 00:08:400 (3) - too I guess this doesn't really hurt much for a constant jumping. Fixed.
2. 00:11:751 (1,1) - NCs are unnecessary, imo. anti-jumps should be readable at this difficulty without NCs Ok then, fixed.
3. 00:20:688 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5) - that seems overmapped. :/ there's a background sound, but it's so beraly audiable.. it's weird to not follow the vocals or the beat better here. :c up to you, I'd prefer a different rhythm Following the pattern of a ranked map : https://osu.ppy.sh/s/269499. Credits goes to No Dap.
4. 00:43:507 (1,1) - same as in Hard Same reason like in Hard.

skipping GDs, too hard, sorry. ;_; Don't worry
Good luck with this, hope I could help!
//squee

DahplA wrote:

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Here's that re-check.

Insane

1. 00:00:422 (2) - Strange. This has the shortest distance spacing, yet it is the note with the strongest beat. Fix this. Opps, fixed with a different pattern.
2. 00:11:432 (1,1,1) - Not completely straight. From eye, the last one is off slightly to the left. Also it's not stacked properly I just realized that, opps again. Fixed.
3. 00:30:422 Ignoring this note is bad, since it has a clap on it. Add this in. I think it is fine, the next note is a finish anyways. Will see what other modders think about this.
4. 00:33:294 What's up with some of the drastic SV changes? Going from 1.5x to 0.5x...They're unnecessary, so remove them (Just the 1.5x) Yea fixed. The jumps are around 1.5x to 1.6x.

Hard

1. 00:50:847 (3) - Why not just stack here?I will think about this, I am trying to follow the ranked mapsets' pattern xD
2. Just from listening, I think the hitsounds in Kiai are inconsistent with the other difficulties. Check over this. Indeed, I missed out some claps and finishes. Added those missing hitsounds.

Normal

1. Nothing's wrong here Yay

Easy

1. 00:03:932 (3) - Fix blanket Opps again, fixed.
2. 00:07:603 (1) - This shape can be hard for newer players to read. Consider changing. I will see what others think, I think this is fine.

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DahplA wrote:

Exa's Insane

1. 00:04:251 (2) - Slightly off-stacked Restacked.
2. 00:04:411 (3,1) - These two sliders almost touch. Consider moving 1 down slightly Will affect the flow and they also don't touch, so I am leaving it as it is.
3. 00:07:603 (1,2) - Use a 1/1 slider here instead. It's the same part as 00:05:049 (1) - and 00:06:326 (1) - It's not the same as these and it requires 2 of 1/2 sliders to work nicely.
4. 00:17:815 I'd remove this 5% volume section. It doesn't give the players great audio feedback, and I feel is unnecessary since it's not in other parts like 00:15:262 Had already changed that to 45% but did not update.
5. Whoops...didn't realise it is unfinished. ^.^

Exa wrote:

DahplA wrote:

Exa's Insane

1. 00:04:251 (2) - Slightly off-stacked Restacked.
2. 00:04:411 (3,1) - These two sliders almost touch. Consider moving 1 down slightly Will affect the flow and they also don't touch, so I am leaving it as it is.
3. 00:07:603 (1,2) - Use a 1/1 slider here instead. It's the same part as 00:05:049 (1) - and 00:06:326 (1) - It's not the same as these and it requires 2 of 1/2 sliders to work nicely.
4. 00:17:815 I'd remove this 5% volume section. It doesn't give the players great audio feedback, and I feel is unnecessary since it's not in other parts like 00:15:262 Had already changed that to 45% but did not update.
5. Whoops...didn't realise it is unfinished. ^.^

DahplA wrote:

Hi, DahplA here posting from Jloughman14's and DahplA's Modding Team. This is a response in regards to this request. Please be sure to vote here on how helpful our mod was.

Here's that re-check.

Walao's Insane

1. 00:01:219 (6) - Just looking over the other Absolute Soul maps, the clap here is meant to be on 00:00:900 Fixed
2. 00:01:858 (2) - What's the theory behind making this less audible? If you didn't want players to hear it, then why is it even there? Consider removing the volume decrease and leaving it as normal. I've increase it back to 50%, bcoz imo, the volume at that part is a little lower compare to the other lol.
3. 00:02:017 (3) - I'd suggest removing 3 from its stack. Since it's a completely different sound, it should be positioned elsewhere with great spacing since it's a strong beat. I've move (2) to other position.. but i didnt add any spacing for (3) though. If in future, other modders tell me to increase spacing..I'll consider about that
4. 00:44:464 Why are claps even in this section? This part is so calm, there's definitely no claps in the music. Remove them in this section. fixed

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walaowey wrote:

DahplA wrote:

Hi, DahplA here posting from Jloughman14's and DahplA's Modding Team. This is a response in regards to this request. Please be sure to vote here on how helpful our mod was.

Here's that re-check.

Walao's Insane

1. 00:01:219 (6) - Just looking over the other Absolute Soul maps, the clap here is meant to be on 00:00:900 Fixed
2. 00:01:858 (2) - What's the theory behind making this less audible? If you didn't want players to hear it, then why is it even there? Consider removing the volume decrease and leaving it as normal. I've increase it back to 50%, bcoz imo, the volume at that part is a little lower compare to the other lol.
3. 00:02:017 (3) - I'd suggest removing 3 from its stack. Since it's a completely different sound, it should be positioned elsewhere with great spacing since it's a strong beat. I've move (2) to other position.. but i didnt add any spacing for (3) though. If in future, other modders tell me to increase spacing..I'll consider about that
4. 00:44:464 Why are claps even in this section? This part is so calm, there's definitely no claps in the music. Remove them in this section. fixed

Thanks for the mod >w<
Sc4, sorry for the late reply xD

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osu file format v14

[General]
AudioFilename: Soul.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 1500
PreviewTime: 63294
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1.3
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 2.1

[Metadata]
Title:Absolute Soul
TitleUnicode:Absolute Soul
Artist:Suzuki Konomi
ArtistUnicode:鈴木このみ
Creator:[Sc4v4ng3r]
Version:Walao's Insane
Source:アブソリュート・デュオ
Tags:Absolute duo Opening tv_size walaowey
BeatmapID:715453
BeatmapSetID:302056

[Difficulty]
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CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:8
ApproachRate:9
SliderMultiplier:1.8
SliderTickRate:2

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Asonate wrote:

Heres my part of the m4m

[Easy]

1. 00:39:677 (3) - would rather make this a ctrl + h of 00:39:039 (2) - When I use angular sliders, I make it so that they are following the same 'musical' parts. For this song, the 'loud' part is with (2) and (4), so I made them angular.
2. 00:58:188 (4,1) - this might be a bit hard for an easy Changed into a circle.
3. 01:13:985 (1) - this blanket isn't too good Didn't quite notice this one, fixed.

[Normal]

1. 00:54:358 (2) - You should move that done a bit to extend the previous slider with it Fixed.
2. 00:56:911 (2) - Same here, just to the left Fixed.

[Hard]

1. 00:28:347 (2) - Rather use a ctrl+h 00:27:709 (6) - for this I agree on this one, fixed.

[Insane]

1. 00:08:081 (2) - Rather use a ctrl+g 00:08:400 (3) - here Will think about it, I want to keep the blanket.
2. 00:34:172 (6) - why is there no clap here - Feels really strange playing this - especially since you did it here 00:35:448 (4) - For this part the claps were supposed to go on the white ticks for all 1/4 sliders, thank you for pointing that out

Thats it, there isn't much keeping this map from Rank, so good luck with that

LucaSA4 wrote:

This is a M4M Request! Visit my queue here! My active beatmap to mod: The Living Tombstone- Heavy's Pizza Song

• Hard
  
  00:01:379 (1) - I recommend transforming this into a 1/2 and adding a circle at 00:01:698 - to give emphasis Isn't the electric guitar on hold here? The 1/1 slider is for that.
  00:05:049 (1,2) - Fix blanket
  00:08:400 (3,5) - Blanket ? Both of them fixed.
  00:13:507 (3) - End of the slider is a bit off the blanket Fixed.
  00:30:581 (1,2) - They're clearly not 100% parallel Well now it is
  00:32:017 (1,3) - Blanket off Instead made a jump from (2) to (3) to emphasize the loud vocals.
  00:50:528 (1,2,3) - I don't think this is a good place for a jump, many stronger rhythm that you used constant DS so why here? Will see what others think about this.
  00:52:443 - Strong beat here Not for this one, but will see if others mention this.
  00:54:677 - 00:55:954 - 00:57:230 - ^ Same reason like Insane. (Began to reply for Insane first)
  01:16:539 (1,2) - Stack fail What do you even mean? These aren't stacks...

• Insane
  
  00:11:432 (1,2,3) - I suggest jumps here to give emphasis on the rhythm This is basically for a trap, making players think that this will be a jump but actually it is not.
  00:21:964 (2) - "Blanket" it properly with 00:20:688 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5) - Guess I did it.
  00:32:656 (1,2,3,4) - This seens overmapped, even if it's part of the rhythm. I think you overused the hitsound or even you did such hard pattern for not that loud rhythm 1/4 kick sliders are not harder than streams IMO...
  00:35:209 (3,4) - 00:36:485 (5,6) - 00:37:124 (1,2) - 00:33:932 (5,6) - Those 1/4 are not fitting the rhythm, a single 1/2 circle would fit better imo (this is valid to all 1/4 rhythms of this part) Kick and snares are really significant in the background, no changes.
  00:46:698 - 00:46:858 - strong beats I just don't feel that I should be following the piano here, vocal is pretty loud here anyways. Will see if more people mention this.
  00:54:677 - 00:57:230 - ^ For this one I am trying to follow the drum's kick.
  01:05:688 (6,7) - Flow is a bit bad here but since this is Insane idk Will be thinking about this...
  01:06:326 (1,2) - ^ I see this is completely fine, (2) is a shortened while rotated version of (1)... Dk what am I talking about but I think this is fine.
  01:13:347 (3) - I don't think there's a valid reason for a wiggy slider Partially for aesthetics, and partially to fit the instrument in the background.
  01:27:071 - 01:27:150 - add circles to make a triplet, the song really asks for Will really think about this, if I make a triplet, the trap will be ugly ;-; and I really want to make a trap here...

Thank you for modding mine! This is all I can point out! GL !!

Exa wrote:

• Exa's Insane
  
  00:00:103 (1) - Since this is the hardest diff, why not mapp this part? I can skip the intro due to my mapping style. It's cool to rise the tension with a spinner at the beginning.
  00:04:411 (3,1) - This part doesn't looks so good because (3) is almost touching (1) It doesn't touch it though ;^). Besides, if I move it a tad bit the flow will break.
  00:08:560 (5) - Make a triangle with 2 and 1 also? Like: http://puu.sh/j4iOH/f87d961b7f.jpg Mhm I like the idea
  00:20:847 (4) - What if you blanket with 00:19:890 (4) - ? If I do so the gameplay will be affected as the jump spacing will get bigger.
  00:36:485 (3) - This slider is not fitting the vocals and in this part of the music is kind of hard of avoiding paying attention to the vocals. I suggest using the same pattern as b4 but a bit harder to give emphasis to the kiai that is comming The rhythm is correct and I see nothing wrong with the pattern. "It does not fit" is not a good enough excuse for me to change it. (It fits imo).
  00:47:815 (2,3,4,5,6) - Make it symmetrical like http://puu.sh/j4iYC/09945f143a.jpg ? I am not making symmetrical for the sake of good flow and ease of gameplay.
  00:48:932 - 00:49:411 - important beats, place circles? Mhm aight.
  00:52:762 - I think you should make a stream in this part, this slider is too calm for this rhythm I won't be mapping anything with a stream, it would be weird since there are no 1/4. The slider makes a sharp turn at the beginning which helps keep the tension relatively high.
  01:05:368 (2,4) - Kind of overlap imo lel stacked.

Code

Owntrolf wrote:

Who knows someone might complain about Hard->Insane spread Definetely.If a BN does then... I will have to make a Light Insane. Well wtv, made my Insane easier.

• Easy

  00:01:698 (3,1) - Why not just make it so the sliders line up to make it look a little bit neater You're right, fixed.
  SPOILER

  
  00:03:294 (2) - Wat I thought there wasnt supposed to be jumps in easy ;-; are you sure you didnt ctrl+g it by accident Was fixing blankets and forgotten to ctrl + g this back.
  00:21:166 (4) - Maybe change it to a circle because 00:21:485 - feels like it should should be pressed so maybe make that into a 1/2 slider Nah I think that will be much more fitting into Normal, won't change this.
  
  00:33:932 - Starting from here it feels like you're missing hitsounds or something im not really sure There are hitsounds lel
  00:43:507 (1) - maybe change it so you can click a circle then the spinner True, that should be clickable, but I feel giving 1/4 spacing before a spinner initiates in Easy feels too fast, so just keeping this.
  SPOILER

  
  
  00:50:528 - Missing circle?
  00:52:443 - Missing 1/1 slider? I felt that giving a little bit of break here seemed fitting, will see if more people mention this.
  00:59:943 (2) - Why not just reuse the same slider at 00:58:666 (1) - which looks nicer Yeap ok, fixed.
  01:03:294 - Maybe put a 1/2 slider here Little bit of break time before kiai initiates.
  01:17:337 (2,3) - I should complain about blankets Yea please do, I has the best(worst) eyesight ever
  01:17:975 (3,2) - Looks weird because the sliders are slightly touching, also 01:19:890 (2,3) - Why does the spacing go from x0.9 to x1.0 Oh didn't notice the 1.0x spacing, applied both suggestions.
  01:21:166 (4,1) - ^spacing Applied. Changes up some patterns after this timestamp.

• Normal

  00:58:188 (4) - Cant tell if you're trying to follow the background or vocals music This is following the background lel

• Hard

  00:09:517 (6,7,1) - Why not make triangles by moving pink7 using x1.3 DS You are right, applied.
  00:42:868 (1,2,3) - Better triangle? Okay... Didn't notice that one.

• Insane

  00:01:379 (1) - Im not even sure if theres supposed to be any 1/8s at all Electric guitar here matches the 1/8 kick slider, and I got this idea from eINess' ranked mapset : https://osu.ppy.sh/s/255919 (All credits to him)
  00:08:400 (3) - Why not use the same slider as 00:08:081 (2) - Because I make these mistakes :/ Applied.
  00:11:432 (1,2,3) - Maybe ctrl+h this so that its a little bit more natural because 00:10:954 (4) - curves to the left Instead, curved (4) so that it points to the right, thus making (1,2,3) lot more natural.
  00:14:464 (5) - Feels weird because its so far away All jumps in this part uses 3.0x to 3.05x spacing, seems ok to me.
  00:37:762 (1) - 00:42:868 (1) - For all the 1.5x SVs it feels really weird to go from 1.0x to 1.5x suddenly then switch back Well since this is the most inclined part of the song (after kiai), I decided to do this, going back to 1.0x SV is just for NCs. Kinda hard to explain it, but I prefer to keep it this way. Although will rethink if more people mention this.

• Exa's Insane

  Check AiMod because the source is derped along with the artist Will fix it by myself after he gives me an update on his part

ohad1881 wrote:

hi there!
from my m4m reverse queue
[easy]
fix all blankets that are wrong - there are a lot of them Okay :/
00:33:932 (2,3,4) - try something like this for beta flow http://prntscr.com/7v8a72 This looks really nice, plays out better too. Applied.
basically its good just fix blankets Okay x2 :/
[normal]
again, fix all the blankets you can find wrong Okay x3 :/
00:50:847 (2) - the nc should be here
00:53:081 (2) - ^^ So both of these are following the vocals apparently, but I am trying to follow the instruments in the background, (more or less) sooo yea, no changes
01:18:932 (1,2) - switch nc But this one is my mistake, applied.
[hard]
blankets. Okay x4 :/
00:42:868 (1,2,3) - not a prefect triangle This only have hit me now, fixed. It was just one grid :/
00:43:108 (2,1) - blanket them? Blanket the circle with this you mean? : 00:44:783 (1) - If so, its all fine, since this slider doesn't show up when the circle does, and besides, since there is a spinner, it should be fine.
01:10:156 (4,1) - stack pls
01:16:539 (1,2) - ^^ Fixed both of them.
[insane]
00:16:060 (3,4) - try something like this http://prntscr.com/7v8dru Looks great, applied by copy pasting (4).
00:21:166 (1) - remove nc Will see what other modders think, don't want the combo go over 10 :/
01:08:879 (3,4,1) - stack pls I guess I didn't clean up that one. Fixed.
gl!
my map - https://osu.ppy.sh/s/283731

Owntrolf wrote:

Who knows someone might complain about Hard->Insane spread

• Walao's Insane

  I find the whistle in the beginning is a bit distracting
  
  00:01:379 (1) - Maybe change it so that the slider end overlaps with pink5 head I dont want to mess up the blanket =3= ..but I'll think about it..
  01:11:831 (2) - I think think theres a triplet here erm?..there's already a a note there..I think i'm not missing anything there :v

ohad1881 wrote:

hi there! Hi there o/

[walao's insane]
00:00:900 (5,1) - stack them somehow? I dont want to mess up the blanket =3= ..but I'll think about it..
00:44:464 (2,1) - switch nc? fixed

gl!

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• Exa's Insane

  Check AiMod because the source is derped along with the artist Requesting the creator to look in that.
  
  00:30:900 (1) - I think you can do something more than just a spinner Maybe, I like it as it is so I am leaving it be. Will change if anyone else points it out.
  00:36:964 (5,6) - I got confused here because it threw vocals out the window Asdf remapped because other people got confused.
  00:42:709 - Missing note for the i in fukai It's clear that I am not mapping the vocals.
  00:51:485 - 00:51:964 - Missing notes? Mapping major beats in relation to the vocals, these beats are barely noticeable and add nothing to the flow or aesthetics if I map them.
  00:52:443 (2) - Wait why is this slow .-. Cause everything after that is fast, it's called buildup.

Reditum wrote:

hhuhuh

. . . ABSOLute

I wish I had funnier jokes It cracked me, don't worry.

Overall:
There's another ranked version with the same BG. It's a small pet peeve of mine, and it might be good to change it so there's no confusion. Not a requirement tho. Idk. It is so hard to find a unique BG with all the ranked maps out there :/

Insane:
00:43:507 (1) - slider pls? Want to 'reset' the flow here. (So that I don't really have to worry about note placements after this spinner xD)

Normal:
00:14:464 (4) - Move this so it's BELOW the end of the last slider, not above it. For this... It is pretty hard to explain... these kind of patterns are, I guess common throughout maps? (maybe). I will think about this.

Map is good stuff

If only I was a BN hahaha That will make my life easier

Reditum wrote:

hhuhuh

. . . ABSOLute

I wish I had funnier jokes

Walao:
Nothing to say, and generally if I don't have anything to say, I just don't post anything, but just wanted to say

I love circle flow. And that's not me being a douche. That's me being really happy. I love you. lol .. love you too <3..haha xD

If only I was a BN hahaha

Adol Christin wrote:

Greeting from my queue.

Exa

1. You haven't uploaded your tag, have you? Check it. Done
2. lol, your finish and clap hitsound..... sounds so close to the hitnormal sound. This might cause disqualification, please consider it.... Won't change until I hear from BN. They are not the same and they should not be treated as such.
3. 00:10:635 (2,3,4) - recommend you change the rhythm into this:
   SPOILER

   
   I fail to see the reasoning behind this suggestion. It's pretty clear that I am mapping the guitar scratches with sliders here.
4. 00:19:730 (3,4) - suggest you ctrl+g, flow and distance would be better. Better as in - creating a needlessly huge jump, then yes. Not changing.
5. 00:37:124 (6,7) - this does not make sense both for drum and vocal..... recommend this slider:
   SPOILER

   
   you could try same thing at 00:42:230 (7,8) - You suggest this so I actually map the red tick. Your suggestions also makes no sense since you skip the first blue tick, which also contains a beat. Skipping these beats for the sake of playability is the best thing to do since I don't want to end up creating a stream-like pattern. Also throwing a timeline pic at people's face does not really help since they will also have to change stuff in the mapping area.
6. 00:53:560 (4,1) - a bit too far away, easy to be read as 1 beat (rather than 1/2 beat)...... slightly nerf it. If this was hard diff I would change. People who decide to play maps in the 5* sections should EASILY read that. Also, I haven't been building up all that tension so I can just kill it by nerfing this jump. The flow is friendly and the chorus suggests a good jump so I see no point changing it.
7. 01:08:241 (3,4,5,6) - cool~ Cool.
8. 01:15:262 (1,2) - what about blanket? You would be able to see if I wanted to blanket or not. It's clear that I don't want to blanket due to DS consistency.

Exa wrote:

How about we start looking for useful mods?

Exa wrote:

Adol Christin wrote:

Greeting from my queue.

Exa

1. You haven't uploaded your tag, have you? Check it. Done
2. lol, your finish and clap hitsound..... sounds so close to the hitnormal sound. This might cause disqualification, please consider it.... Won't change until I hear from BN. They are not the same and they should not be treated as such.
   
   I am 100% sure, no change, no way to get ranked. You could try to in-game poke a BN or a QAT for a quick check. Yea they are not 100% the same but players are not easy to identify the difference. That's it. Maybe you wanna catch the drum sound the song originally has, but actually it makes players confused.
   
3. 00:10:635 (2,3,4) - recommend you change the rhythm into this:
   SPOILER

   
   I fail to see the reasoning behind this suggestion. It's pretty clear that I am mapping the guitar scratches with sliders here.
   
   the one i suggested also follows the guitar sound, but yours sliders start at red tick, which is normally not recommended. If you urge to keep this, just keep it.
   
4. 00:19:730 (3,4) - suggest you ctrl+g, flow and distance would be better. Better as in - creating a needlessly huge jump, then yes. Not changing.
   
   00:20:049 - this point is the transition point of different vocal. Some distance change would emphasize this better.
   
5. 00:37:124 (6,7) - this does not make sense both for drum and vocal..... recommend this slider:
   SPOILER

   
   you could try same thing at 00:42:230 (7,8) - You suggest this so I actually map the red tick. Your suggestions also makes no sense since you skip the first blue tick, which also contains a beat. Skipping these beats for the sake of playability is the best thing to do since I don't want to end up creating a stream-like pattern. Also throwing a timeline pic at people's face does not really help since they will also have to change stuff in the mapping area.
   
   Why I choose to show the timeline only? Because different mappers has their own flow preference and I would prefer you yourself reposition your stuffs. Seems like you are not a newbie mapper so i thought you will understand that.
   
   Then let's talk about rhythm. Right, do you hear the vocal? It's quite strong here and valuable to catch. Also, every beats of this slider contains one hit of drum sound. How does this slider make no sense?

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Adol Christin wrote:

Exa wrote:

How about we start looking for useful mods?

lol... This is my first time to receive a direct comment like this.

Reserve a place for more explanation later.

Exa wrote:

How about we start looking for useful mods?

Adol Christin wrote:

Greeting from my queue.

walaowey

1. 00:29:464 (1,2,3) - i feel your mapping style is the short distance of each objects..... but these 3 are really, too crowded... fixedd, no overlap now
2. 00:52:603 (2,5,7,8) - try adding whistle on these points? the whistles are already there
3. 00:55:315 (2) - i feel this clap is a bit weird. What about moving clap to 00:55:315 (2) - ? Then move all the claps to the 3rd beat of each bar. Then it would sound better. move the clap to the same point? @.@ ..is it the red tick, then yeah, i already move it there.
4. Nothing much to say, pretty solid Insane diff with lots of circle patterns. <3

That's everythign from me. You already have many mods here. if you need further improvement and push this mapset forwards, i'll suggest you remap Insane diff, try some more kinds of flow and distance, avoid linear flow with long distance.

Other diffs are good on my end.

Good luck~

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Adol Christin wrote:

Greeting from my queue.

Sc4v4ng3r

1. 00:09:039 (5) - Suggest you ctrl+g this (and slightly adjust the placement if needed). i feel linear flow is not suitable here, since in some similar part (i.e. 00:03:294 (4,5,1) - ) your flow is curved. No strong beats for a jump, would want to keep the linear flow here.
2. 00:37:762 (1) - 00:42:868 (1) - Good idea boosting slider here. But i feel 1.5*sv is somehow too sudden. 1.2* would be enough and have the same effect. Well this is a really strong note, wanted a very fast slider in order to express this. Reduced down to 1.4x to make the distance look like constant.
3. 00:47:017 (1,2,3) - suggest you line them up. Linear flow here is way too boring for a part being calm.
4. 00:58:666 (3,5) - Fake symmetry. use copypaste and ctrl+h to adjust it. Adjusted.
5. 00:43:507 - 00:49:571 - in this part, i suggest you use soft sample, as a player i feel soft sample would be more related to the song and has better experience But this is already soft sample... It is just without any claps or finishes.
6. 01:01:858 (3,4,1) - really, long distance linear flow is mostly bad flow. here is an example. Even you don't like this, i'll still recommend you avoid this kind of flow. Well still, I prefer this pattern because 01:02:177 (1,2,3) - these are inverted from 01:01:698 (2,3,4) - , which doesn't negatively impact on gameplay much. Not discouraging you, but your pattern still seems nice.
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7. 01:04:730 (2,3) - ctrl+g? I guess I can take you up on that, applied.
8. 01:09:677 (3) - suggest you remove the reverse point and add a circle at 01:09:996 - . I feel this is fine as it is.
9. 00:48:613 (1) - clap is not suitable here imo. True, it doesn't really fit. But leaving it blank doesn't fit into the song either. Any suggestions for this?

That's everythign from me. You already have many mods here. if you need further improvement and push this mapset forwards, i'll suggest you remap Insane diff, try some more kinds of flow and distance, avoid linear flow with long distance. [color=#00FFFF]Well that's my style :/

Other diffs are good on my end. :D

Good luck~

walaowey wrote:

yo, I'm here to mod exa diff,
bcoz previously i've modded sc4 diff bfore exa added his diff xD

So here's my mod.. just giving my personal opinion only :v..
And all those note/circle placement in the picture was placed randomly. fix it your way, (I'm just giving suggestion)

[Exa's]
00:00:103 - tbh, map this part, the sound in this part is pretty intense, and not to mention, your object density is lesser than mine..Its causing spread problem There is on spread problem what-so-ever. I am not using any hitobject other than a spinner because I can't set a good introductory flow with what the chorus provides me with. (Will change if anyone else points it out though).
00:03:773 (1) - bend this to the left side, for better flow, *click if u dont know what i mean* I like it, changed.
00:06:326 (1) - add more spacing between this slider and the previous note 00:06:166 (4) - to emphasize the strong sound. Broken flow does the trick, did not change.
00:07:603 (1) - ctrl+h this, for a better flow..bcoz now your flow is going the other way.. if u need more explaination, just pm me, I'll try to post it with screenshot I strongly prefer my current flow better than what you suggest. (Mine, Yours)
00:18:613 (4) - the flow here is off.. maybe u can try to try to swap places with 00:18:454 (3) - .. *like this* Cursor movement is exactly as it is intended to be with this pattern, flow cuts, but it's not off...oh and dont forget to reduce the gap between (4) and (1) bcoz its too far away
00:24:837 (4) - ctrl+g this too, the flow is so sharp lol.. if u fix this, move (2) and (3) higher *like this* The flow is sharp on purpose, it plays fine. Subjectivity is not really helpful here.
00:26:432 - add a circle here bcoz there is a strong beat here.. try to reduce the playback rate to 25% and u will hear that beat I had heard the beat and I still not added it because the pattern played fine, it might create rankability issues though so I added it.
00:28:666 (4,1) - this flow is so damn sharp .. maybe try to fix it like this The flow is indeed damn sharp.
00:29:305 (3) - the flow is not that good imo, rotate it by -45° and stack the slider tail to 00:28:188 (1) Flow is fine, I am following the fundamentals of circular flow, did you even play this part? All sliders are played like they should be and the notes are in front of their tails.
00:43:108 (2,3) - ctrl+g this for better flow, and dont forget to place (4) nearer to (3) to indicate the 1/2 beat "It will have better flow is not that much of a motivating explanation, the flow is perfect here. I don't intend having the player make pointless circles around the mapping area, since that is what you are proposing to me to do most of the times so far.
00:49:890 (2) - remove this circle, there's nothing here, i dont hear any beat here. Indeed, I should remove the others as well for consistency's sake, but they will stay for now.
00:49:571 (1) - imo, replace this slider with a circle will be better Too rhythmically inconsistent, would do otherwise.
00:50:528 (1,2,3,4,1,1,1) - the hitsound volume in this part is too low, consider to increase the volume. bcoz the music in this part didnt give any suggestion to lower the sound lol :v Nice catch, no idea why I did that in the first place.
00:53:720 (1) - this slider is extremely far away, player will easily mistake it by thinking that the spacing after 00:53:560 (4) - is 1/1 spacing apart :v Not a single one of my testplayers (8 or 10) misread that part. Besides, what kind of person who can play 5* category maps will misread a simple jump?
01:07:922 (2) - stack this properly with 01:07:283 (5) Another good catch.
01:09:837 (2,4) - avoid overlapping.. Not fixing such a perfectly symmetrical (doesn't touch head and tail) in order to make it look better but affect gameplay. Take some more time to see what's going on.
01:12:709 (1) - its not flowing well from 01:12:390 (6) , consider to fix it.. Creating circular flow, I would create another graph but I can't access my computer, ask me when you see me in-game.
01:15:262 (1,2) - blanket them, to make them look neater Cool looking <> Well playing.
01:18:294 (4,5,6) - tbh, its hard for player to know that before (6) has a 1/1 spacing..as the gap between (5,6) and (4,5) is almost the same..consider to change it and the flow is too sharp, its going against the current flow now The only reason this works is because the flow is sharp, the player requires to stop (and therefore reset) the cursor movement in order to transit into the next hitobject. This way, regardless of it's rhythm, it will still be played correctly.
01:25:634 - i think its better to replace this spinner with other things..bcoz 01:25:794 - ,01:25:954 - , 01:26:113 - ,01:26:273 - ,01:26:432 - ,01:26:592 - ,01:26:751 - is full of beats..its a great place to map.. and as i have previously stated, your object density is lesser than my diff, this will cause spread problem in the map :v I have no idea where you see the problem due the different hitobject densities between our maps, this is the exact same instance as the beginning. While this is, again, a subjective matter, I am keeping it as it is and might change if some else points it out.

Thats all from me, good luck with your diff

ByBy13 wrote:

Hello! Just checking Exa's Insane

1. nazi/suggestion
2. important

Exa's Insane

1. Honestly I don't like the finishes and claps here because they don't fit the music at all in my opinion.I saw you use S , S:C2 and S:C3 but they don't fit the music at all.I suggest to use S:C1 to make the finishes and the claps more dynamic and to fit the music much better 2nd mentioning of the hitsounds, changed. Copied from Walao's Insane because I realized mid-way they were the same with what I was about to do.
2. 00:00:103- ~ 00:01:698- I hear the beats here especially the cymbal beats so this part can be mapped instead adding a spinner to ignore the beats here Also 2nd time this is mentioned, changed. Even though I am still against it.
3. 00:02:815(2)- I feel the rhythm here looks a bit weird to me.I would like to put here doublets instead putting an 1/2 slider because it will fit the beats here much better I like it, also changed on the next pattern for consistency's sake.
4. 00:03:454(5)- The blanket between this note and 00:03:773(1)- looks off to me honestly.Try to adjust 00:03:773(1)- like here to improve the blanket between this slider and 00:03:454(5)- I am not trying to blanket it. Even if I were, I would not like to change the slider's shape.
5. 00:08:719(6)- As I can see there's a ugly overlap with 00:09:517(3)-.Even this is not noticeable in game,you can place 00:08:719(6)- to 332|192 to make a blanket with 00:09:517(3)- to be more aestethic than before.Also after you move the note ( I refer at 00:08:719(6)-),I suggest to move 00:09:996(4)- to 387|250 to avoid an overlap Fixed after readjusting the pattern
6. 00:10:634(2)- I suggest to unstack this note from previous slider's tail because for some players can be confusing in my opinion and you can move that note to 271|142 or where you want you it's up to you Cool suggestion, would do if this was not a 5* category map. Players of this level should be able to read this just fine.
7. 00:15:422(2,3,4,5)- In my opinion,you can use the same distance between those notes because in this part I don't see that the music become intense here.The music becomes between 00:15:262(1)- and 00:15:422(2)- as I can see Readjusted a bit. Just a bit though.
8. 00:20:049(1)- Here the NC doesn't fit at all because there's no the reset of the vocals.As I can hear,the NC will fit on 00:20:368(2)- where you can hear clearly hear the reset of the vocals so you should remove the NC from 00:20:049(1)- and adding the NC on 00:20:368(2)- Done.
9. 00:22:922(1)- The music goes to be intense here but you used an anti-jump as I can see.You can use a jump here to emphasize the intensify of the music here Anti-jumps are used to prevent cursor movement, the reverse slider does exactly that.
10. 00:32:017- Duplicate green line Nice catch.
11. 00:36:007(1,2)- Seems you tried to make a blanket.The blanket looks of so why not try this kind of this blanket? It will looks more neater and more aesthetic in my opinion I... Did not try to blanket :3
12. 00:42:230(7)- As I can hear the vocals,a NC should be here to emphasize the reset of the vocals and not on 00:42:868(1)-
13. 00:42:709- I hear the vocals here I mean I hear 'i' lyric which you ignore it so a note should be here to follow the vocals from this red tick I am not following the vocalic beats in any part of the song. I see no reason to do it now.
14. 00:44:305- You can increase the green line's volume to 30% for a better feedback Done.
15. 00:49:571(1)- This slider could be extended to 00:50:368- to follow the vocals properly I am following the piano. Not the vocals.
16. 00:52:124(1,2)- This rhythm feels questionable to me.You trying to follow the vocals but on 00:52:363- I can hear vocals on this blue tick but you ignore it.You can use this kind of rhythm.I used an 0.80 SV change and I deleted 00:53:241(2)- and moved 00:53:560(3)- to 00:53:400- to fit the vocals I am not trying to follow the vocals. There is a beat where the slider starts and there is a long-lasting sound on the chorus after it. That's why the slider is big like that.
17. 01:02:656(1)- I don't think a spinner placed here can be so necessary at all.You can delete it and you can map on 01:03:294- with an 1/2 slider to emphasize 'kimi' lyric Not following the vocals, so I am not removing it. I did shorten it a bit though, osu!auto managed to pull off 2000 points, so it's rankable.
18. 01:08:241(3,4,5,6)- Seems you used a small distance between those but the music's intense here so a pattern with the distance increased a bit wouldn't hurt at all Good suggestion but a bit pointless. What I am trying to achieve here is small cursor movement, I am betting on representing the tension clearly on tapping on the beats rather than moving the cursor.
19. 01:13:826(1)- This note can be stacked with 01:13:985(2)- 's tail to looks more neater and aesthetical to me

Just a suggestion, not changing because there might actually be readability issues. Also I have treated the note as an extension of the slider's tail so it should be fine.

That's all from me. Unfortunately,this diff is not ready for rank yet because it's lack of quality honestly.This diff needs some major changes or a remap. Call me stubborn but I am pretty sure the difficulty does not lack quality that much in order to need a remap. I will be sure to ask more Beatmap Nominators for their opinion. Of this.

Best of Luck!

Exa wrote:

Requesting from the map's creator to move the offset of all maps at -57 so the white ticks get in better coordination.

[Sc4v4ng3r] wrote:

Exa wrote:

Requesting from the map's creator to move the offset of all maps at -57 so the white ticks get in better coordination.

Since I took this mp3 from this ranked mapset, should be fine. I should get another timing check instead...

Updated.

Exa wrote:

The timing is correct, I am just asking to move the main offset 2 1/2 ticks back so we are starting sliders on white ticks.

Exa wrote:

Sliders usually start on white ticks. This merely to avoid confusion. As for the actually timing, it doesn't change. The timeline just moves 2 1/4 ticks back.
Currently the offset is at 103, every 1/4 has a time gap of 80ms. Moving the offset 2 1/4 ticks back would result in: 103-2*80=-57.

The timing is already changed on my difficulty. It is strongly suggested that you do so in the others as well. There is no way the hitsounds sound off because it's not the human ear that calculates where the offset would be, in this case; it's simple math.[/notice]

[Sc4v4ng3r] wrote:

Exa wrote:

Sliders usually start on white ticks. This merely to avoid confusion. As for the actually timing, it doesn't change. The timeline just moves 2 1/4 ticks back.
Currently the offset is at 103, every 1/4 has a time gap of 80ms. Moving the offset 2 1/4 ticks back would result in: 103-2*80=-57.

The timing is already changed on my difficulty. It is strongly suggested that you do so in the others as well. There is no way the hitsounds sound off because it's not the human ear that calculates where the offset would be, in this case; it's simple math.[/notice]

The sliders you are talking about actually needs to start at red ticks. The beat (sound) they are on actually lands on the red ticks, so if altered, this would be musically and rhythmically wrong. Well I may be horribly wrong though.

RVMathew wrote:

Hi there. Sorry for the late reply.

Note that whatever I say is my own opinion so you do not have to follow it. Changes are separated into boxes.


[General]

1) Add 2000ms of audio lead in. 1500ms should be fine enough.
2) I think claps should be placed on every 2nd and 4th beat for better feedback for the player. That's GD maker's personal preference whether or not to place claps on 2nd and 4th beat, and some of them which I used (Example - 00:33:932 (2,4) - on Normal) was to emphasize the snares on that specific part, if not that would sound just too empty compared to the other difficulties.
3) 01:27:229 I would change the volume to 5% as it is at the end of the song and there is no loud finish in the mp3. There is a kick at the end, you need a audio feedback to emphasize that.

[Easy]

Note placement is good, as everything flows well. :D

[Normal]

1) It seems there are points on the map where the distances between notes are different. For example at 00:04:411 the distance between the next object is 1.03x when other objects are around 1.1x distance away. I would recommend that you should be consistent with the spacing and try 1.0x spacing to make the map a little bit easier. Fixed.

2)

SPOILER

01:21:644 I am thinking that while stacking notes are nice (I do that myself), I feel like this area should not have stacks so there is more flow going on. Referring to point 1, if you did apply 1.0x spacing then breaking the stacks will be better as the notes should be much closer. Literally the whole difficulty is stacked, (did it to all to those I didn't) it would be bit confusing to not stack them at the end, since this difficulty is mainly for beginners.

[Hard]

1)

SPOILER

01:13:825 You should add a note there and make that the start of a new combo. The previous note (01:13:346) should be moved elsewhere. I prefer the trap over your suggestion, not applied. Adding a note that would ruin the trap.

2) 00:21:485 Maybe try this pattern? Their beat is really strong, would be weird to not make them unclickable.

SPOILER

3) 00:53:719 - 00:57:548 This area I feel like it is undermapped. I cannot think of any suggestions to improve it though. Insane is similarly undermapped like this. Since this is the calm part of the song, don't want to really add more objects into this part.

[Insane]

1) 00:53:719 - 00:57:548 This area I feel like it is undermapped. I cannot think of any suggestions to improve it though. Same reason like Hard.

2) 00:52:602 - 00:52:921 and 00:53:080 - 00:53:559 the distances between the notes are different from each other. I assume it was not intentional; you should make the notes in their respective combos the same distance from each other. It looks a lot nicer. Doesn't really have to be that constant, this is just for the pattern sake (rectangular). And ~.4x difference between distance in a pattern like this doesn't REALLY matter if you are following a specific pattern.

3) 00:20:687 I do not understand why there is a stream there; when I listen to the mp3 there is no indication that there should be a stream like that mapped there. Although it looks nice the song does not warrant it. In honesty I feel like that was placed there just to push up the difficulty for no reason, especially when the rest of the map does not have that kind of difficulty. It's pretty obvious there is a instrument here which supports the stream. Proof : this ranked mapset also uses it. (Insane diff)

Final Thoughts: Since there were a lot of changes since you asked me for the mod, there is not a lot I can point out. Overall though the mapset is good. Good luck and sorry for my late reply. No worries

RVMathew wrote:

Hi there. Sorry for the late reply.

Note that whatever I say is my own opinion so you do not have to follow it. Changes are separated into boxes.

Walao's Insane

1)

SPOILER

00:01:379 I would tuck the slider underneath note 5 of the previous combo as in the above image. It looks better. I think i'll leave it there, bcoz if i stack the slidertail with (5), the blanket with (5) will mess up :/

2) 00:44:463 In my opinion, I would use sliders for vocals, instead of having single notes. I would use this pattern I think i will leave it here too, bcoz its fine by having single note here

SPOILER

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Final Thoughts: Since there were a lot of changes since you asked me for the mod, there is not a lot I can point out. Overall though the mapset is good. Good luck and sorry for my late reply.

RVMathew wrote:

I would recommend increasing the base sv to 1.9 or more, since right now the insane feels slow and not that energetic with a slower SV.No thanks.

neonat wrote:

Had a look at your difficulties

Easy

It doesn't affect spacing much and even if it did, it's easily fixed, but you could really make some of those blankets much neater than what it is now, even the first blankets 00:00:103 (1,2) - 00:02:496 (1,2) - for example could curve around each other better Lmao didn't notice that, refined every blanket.
00:07:603 (1) - won't recommend this since there has been disqualification for unclear slider body before Changed into a normal curved one then.
00:23:081 (1) - finish on slider start Completely missed that out o.o fixed.
00:53:081 (2) - cymbals sounds seem to be at the start of 00:53:720 (1) though Yea I do hear the faint cymbal sound, added, and modified the hitsound pattern for this part for all diffs.

Normal

00:51:166 (3) - based on your previous NCs, NC should be here instead of 00:50:528 (1) Yeap true that, fixed.
00:52:443 (1) - won't have NC Just like above.
01:11:432 (1,2,3) - they don't land nicely with the song, especially with the held vocal at 01:12:071 (2) while honestly the music doesn't have much starting up at 01:12:230 (3) Well well, fixed. Just used 1/1 slider to fit with the secondary vocal.
01:13:985 (2) - you should start NCs like 01:15:262 (1) - while you're at it, might as well have 01:03:773 (2) be the same too Addressede the NC inconsistencies.
01:23:081 (5) - should have been a NC already And this too.

Hard

00:23:081 (1) - finish on slider start Opps, added.
00:34:571 (4) - NC
00:37:124 (5) - ^
00:39:677 (4) - ^
00:42:230 (4) - ^
00:53:720 (1) - should have had the finish on the slider start here though Well fixed/added all.

those super straight angles used though, and those straight sliders that move in the same direction, that are not really that pleasant, like 00:41:113 (2,3) and 00:33:454 (2,3) I feel that they are completely fine...

Insane

00:09:039 (5) - NC Fixed.
00:10:156 (2) - NC here instead of 00:09:996 (1) Fixed.
00:12:868 (1) - finish on start of slider And fixed.
00:32:017 (1) - ^ And fixed again.
00:33:134 (4,1) - space it equally like the objects just before this Fixed.
00:39:517 (5) - and for all the similar ones after this, please have clap on them too, they are still part of that 3/4 vocal rhythm and having them softer makes it odd Okay... People mentioned this alot so added for all parts.
00:40:954 (1) - finish on start of slider Not really hearing any strong beat for a finish here, not added.
00:53:720 (1) - finish should have been on the start of this slider for this section of the song Added.

still find flow awkward I know right :/ I can't make Insane xD


good luck

PolkaMocha wrote:

Hello from my queue. This mod is hella overdue. My apologies.

EASY

The 3s in the difficulty settings are little to much. Please remember easy modes are intended for beginners.

00:09:677 (4) This isn't snapped correctly.

00:11:273 (2) (3) This transition from white red tick is not playable for beginners.

00:20:368 (3) The blanketing on this one just a little off.

00:21:485 (4) (1) Again, this white to red tick is not a playable note transition for beginner players.

00:38:241 (4) (1) ^

00:41:592 (2) is too far from (1)

00:46:060 Slowing the sliders down for this part would be great. SV changes in Easy and Normal is unrankable, except for normal where in the kiai it could be changed to a constant value. Well I didn't know this back then so it was my mistake on Normal :/

01:09:677 (2) Blanketing is off.

01:11:592 (4) This is too far from (3).

01:12:549 (5) (1) This whole red white transition jazz again.

01:16:379 (4) (1) ^

01:18:932 (3) (1) ^

01:20:209 (2) (3) ^

01:21:645 (4) (1) ^

I almost feel like this is a novice mode rather than easy.

I unfortunately had all other difficulties modded, but lost it. I'm so sorry. The general consensus for Normal was lack of proper blanketing, for hard, it was the whole neatness factor that needed work.

I can redo it if you want. I just can't promise it will be timely.