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Unusual Mechanics (END) - Mafia Thieves Win

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pieguyn
2,020 posts
Joined May 2009
pieguyn
town: CTs, Irre, Caligno, tanz
mb RB, mb Sephi

scum: farto, Jinxy, one of {rEdo, kevin}

farto v Caligno and Caligno v nyquill is all tl;dr there's no way I'm looking into that shit
overall Tanz is being p logical and I don't see any scum motivation at all in anything he's said so far. same with RB and sephi. Jinxy is scum p much entirely bc of farto. if farto flips town jinxy becomes null. nyquill is really weird but his frustration seems genuine and feels different from his reaction to my push on him in lucid dreamers. he said some of the same kind of stuff but there was way less emotion and feeling into it and it didn't feel genuine, whereas this seems way better on a gut level. rEdo and kevin haven't done much of anything so my best bet for 3rd scum is one of them
pieguyn
2,020 posts
Joined May 2009
pieguyn
vote: farto
Sephibro
512 posts
Joined November 2012
Sephibro
tldr
pieguyn
2,020 posts
Joined May 2009
pieguyn
I blame this site's lack of [post] tags T_T
Tanzklaue
1,151 posts
Joined December 2010
Tanzklaue
sorry for not posting yesterday, not too much interesting happened anyway.

I have a really weird feeling (in my gut ;) ) about farto. it just seems really odd to me that he would tantrum like that, basically throwing the game away. I don't know if that makes him more town or scum, but it certainly doesn't make him helpful.
Sephibro
512 posts
Joined November 2012
Sephibro

pieguy1372 wrote:

as of 11, I hate this wagon on Jinxy. I don't think anyone ever gave the reason behind their townreads on him but it feels off especially considering he's not at all a bad scumplayer iirc, and i don't see anything he did that looks really town 0.0
Again: p/2770320
NoHitter
osu! Alumni
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Topic Starter
NoHitter
Sephibro, if you wish to have me prod someone, please bold it next time.

The machine is waiting for your input. *Beep*
Chamelo
432 posts
Joined July 2013
Chamelo
Sadly, you can't prod anybody now. :P
Oh, wait... you can.

Speaking of a townread on me.
pieguy, you also quoted my "omg math" and said I can be town. Can't you just mention me instead?

pieguy1372"
[quote="CTs-Th wrote:

NO!

Well, I just post only 1 post after the game start, how did that possible for me to look scum/town?
And, why did you want a newbie like me to be a leader? Anything behind the curtain?
nice, I'm glad my townread on you is correct :D
[/quote]

So that's mean I accidently confirmed town?
Chamelo
432 posts
Joined July 2013
Chamelo
Oops, quote failed. :cry:

By the way,

pieguy1372 wrote:

fartownik wrote:

2. I have no idea why you find this a scumtell, also I already admitted I've proposed it today for the reactions.
fuck no. it's too easy for scum to get away with shit by saying "lolol it was a reaction test". in a game on MS that just finished, scum tried to quick hammer, FAILED, and wrote it off as a reaction test and no one caught it. town was apathetic as fuck that game so they were prob just too lazy to fix it, but same idea
farto usually perform a reaction test. Seems like a cheap excuse.
(IMO, he did so many times that I wanna lynch him some day.)
Nyquill
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Nyquill

pieguy1372 wrote:

really, just meh. you p much put 3 lurkers. do you really not wanna lynch anyone who's active?
Yes. Lurker lynch is much better D1 as lynches based on strong reads can be made better after flips.
Irreversible
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Irreversible
Kevin you say I don't do much, what did you do yet?

alright, so farto was super agressive at the begin, now he lost Motivation - just because you don't get what you want? If you were town, you would still fight that we win. But this is just an "excuse".

pvote: fartownik


Can I get an Explanation on the wagon? I'd like to see reasons why you voted him

Tanzklaue, can I also know why you joined the wagon and afterwards you say

Tanzklaue wrote:

yea, I am also getting suspicious of how fast the wagon grew.
Tanzklaue
1,151 posts
Joined December 2010
Tanzklaue

Irreversible wrote:

Kevin you say I don't do much, what did you do yet?

alright, so farto was super agressive at the begin, now he lost Motivation - just because you don't get what you want? If you were town, you would still fight that we win. But this is just an "excuse".

pvote: fartownik


Can I get an Explanation on the wagon? I'd like to see reasons why you voted him

Tanzklaue, can I also know why you joined the wagon and afterwards you say

Tanzklaue wrote:

yea, I am also getting suspicious of how fast the wagon grew.
I didn't join the wagon.

I started it.
fartownik
2,189 posts
Joined December 2008
fartownik
I'm just here to say that pieguy is scum, in case you lynch me before I get myself to read the belated pages.
pieguyn
2,020 posts
Joined May 2009
pieguyn

CTs-Th wrote:

pieguy, you also quoted my "omg math" and said I can be town. Can't you just mention me instead?
I could but in this case I feel it'd be better if people know the reason for the townread

you're not "confirmed town" but I'll be really surprised if you're scum atm

Sephibro wrote:

pieguy1372 wrote:

as of 11, I hate this wagon on Jinxy. I don't think anyone ever gave the reason behind their townreads on him but it feels off especially considering he's not at all a bad scumplayer iirc, and i don't see anything he did that looks really town 0.0
Again: p/2770320
I'm inclined to agree with caligno. there's more to it than that. we don't even know Jinxy's reads and he hasn't done anything extremely town looking. and the way it formed was way too hasty 0.0
Amianki
85 posts
Joined January 2011
Amianki

Nyquill wrote:

pieguy1372 wrote:

really, just meh. you p much put 3 lurkers. do you really not wanna lynch anyone who's active?
Yes. Lurker lynch is much better D1 as lynches based on strong reads can be made better after flips.
Lurker lynch D1 is awful. They give very little information to go on (RE: association) and are a complete crapshoot as to their alignment rather than a partial crapshoot.
Jinxy
2,777 posts
Joined February 2009
Jinxy
Lynch Vote Count
Nyquill (4) - rEdo, Jinxy, Raging Bull, Tanzklaue
fartownik (4) - Nyquill, -kevincela-, pieguy1372. Irreversible
CalignoBot (1) - Sephibro[/quote]

2 days left.

I'll read and post the rest in a while
Jinxy
2,777 posts
Joined February 2009
Jinxy

fartownik wrote:

I'm just here to say that pieguy is scum, in case you lynch me before I get myself to read the belated pages.
So you haven't even fully read the pages, and are calling pieguy scum for having a scumread on you?

Iffy on Nyquill's lurker lynch suggestions. Cali has already said why, and another point:

Nyquill wrote:

pieguy1372 wrote:

really, just meh. you p much put 3 lurkers. do you really not wanna lynch anyone who's active?
Yes. Lurker lynch is much better D1 as lynches based on strong reads can be made better after flips.
The lynch is also a flip, and lynching a lurker wouldn't help reads much either.
Raging Bull
2,809 posts
Joined June 2010
Raging Bull
I always thought lurker lynch would be more beneficial in D1 since there is usually no strong read rather than reactions.
Amianki
85 posts
Joined January 2011
Amianki
The point of Day 1 is to make scumhunting in Day 2 and beyond easier (or harder as scum). The alignment of the person doesn't mean shit if the rest of the game is significantly more difficult because of it. This is why lynching for information is infinitely more useful than just lynching whoever willy nilly because they didn't post for half of the day. All that does is make an easy lynch that makes a bunch of null associations and makes Day 2 essentially the same as Day 1.

And yes, I CAN prove this idea if asked to.
Raging Bull
2,809 posts
Joined June 2010
Raging Bull
No I think it sounds about right. Lynching a lurker who didn't do much will reveal nothing because their words will not have very much meaning. Or at least that's how I'm interpreting it. While I cannot explain it, I understand it. no need to explain.
Raging Bull
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Joined June 2010
Raging Bull
imo I don't really see much reason for voting farto. Seems like he was doing a lot to even stick out and get us out of RVS.

kevin and Irre votes seem rather like a weak reason to even vote farto.
Nyquill voted for farto without a reason (unless I missed it)


I'm still wondering what rEdo read as "forcing a lynch" meant. FoS rEdo. I realize he may be V/LA, but I find it rather odd to vote someone with a reason that I really don't think existed and then disappear.
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull
FoS rEdo

:(
pieguyn
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Joined May 2009
pieguyn
@kevin: why did you jump on the Jinxy wagon?
@nyquill: same question. especially when you're scumreading farto and he was one of the people pushing said wagon, and now you're lynch-voting him

Raging Bull wrote:

kevin and Irre votes seem rather like a weak reason to even vote farto.
huh that's a good point. it feels like kevin is just going with the flow 0.0
Irreversible
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Irreversible
What's weak about my reason? If i play emo I get judged by this too.
Amianki
85 posts
Joined January 2011
Amianki
Mafia is all about judging people. That's how people get caught.
Nyquill
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Joined February 2011
Nyquill
to everyone who is wondering, i explained most of my actions at one point oranother because everyone consistently nitpicked at them. go read up again, im not in a position to requote all of them so youre going to have to do that on your own.
-kevincela-
Elite Mapper
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-kevincela-

Irreversible wrote:

Kevin you say I don't do much, what did you do yet?
My post didn't want to be a claim at all, if you read my post again and Nyquill's ones you can see that he has included you in the lurkers list here, though he hasn't included you in the "final list". Doesen't this seem at least a bit strange, considered that nothing much at all changed?

About the wagon on Jinxy I really don't get what's wrong with it. I mean, does the choice of the lyncher really matter while the lynchee is being chosen based on our votes? To be honest I thought that Jinxy could be a valid leader and I still think so, considering that he's trying to gather everybody's opinions to choose the lynchee. If some of you guys think he could be a scum, then why don't you suspect him instead on the 2nd day? I don't think it would be a big issue anyway.
Amianki
85 posts
Joined January 2011
Amianki

-kevincela- wrote:

Irreversible wrote:

Kevin you say I don't do much, what did you do yet?
My post didn't want to be a claim at all, if you read my post again and Nyquill's ones you can see that he has included you in the lurkers list here, though he hasn't included you in the "final list". Doesen't this seem at least a bit strange, considered that nothing much at all changed?

About the wagon on Jinxy I really don't get what's wrong with it. I mean, does the choice of the lyncher really matter while the lynchee is being chosen based on our votes? To be honest I thought that Jinxy could be a valid leader and I still think so, considering that he's trying to gather everybody's opinions to choose the lynchee. If some of you guys think he could be a scum, then why don't you suspect him instead on the 2nd day? I don't think it would be a big issue anyway.
The reason the wagon was shit was because it was hammered while there was an ongoing debate on whether it was a good idea or not.
-kevincela-
Elite Mapper
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-kevincela-
I've read the topic once again, and I've seen that the only one who was supporting the debate was probably just you, or am I wrong? There were also other people who opposed to Jinxy's wagon such as Irre and RB, but they didn't do much other than just making a post asking why we were voting for him. Also if the majority of the people here wanted to vote Jinxy for leader I guess it's because they thought it was a good idea, isn't it?
Amianki
85 posts
Joined January 2011
Amianki
The amount of people on either side is completely irrelevant when I poked holes in the issues I saw in their side of the issue, while basically no one did the same to mine. Plus, mafia are most likely sheeping the idea regardless of which alignment first brought it up (although it's even more disingenuous that it went through so easily if mafia started it).

That's completely ridiculous and gives everyone an excuse to just brush this away rather than deal with it since it won't affect anything anymore. This is what scum absolutely love, by the way.

And no, I still say it was a shit concept, but there's no real point trying to argue it anymore. I gave my scumreads somewhere a few pages ago and I'm not really willing to go along with this whole "vote for the leader to lynch someone" because I do still think it's not what we should be doing today.
Sephibro
512 posts
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Sephibro

CalignoBot wrote:

And no, I still say it was a shit concept, but there's no real point trying to argue it anymore. I gave my scumreads somewhere a few pages ago and I'm not really willing to go along with this whole "vote for the leader to lynch someone" because I do still think it's not what we should be doing today.
"This is what scum absolutely love, by the way."
Amianki
85 posts
Joined January 2011
Amianki

Sephibro wrote:

CalignoBot wrote:

And no, I still say it was a shit concept, but there's no real point trying to argue it anymore. I gave my scumreads somewhere a few pages ago and I'm not really willing to go along with this whole "vote for the leader to lynch someone" because I do still think it's not what we should be doing today.
"This is what scum absolutely love, by the way."
"I gave my scumreads"
Raging Bull
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Joined June 2010
Raging Bull
I don't know what you two are going on about.

-kevincela- wrote:

I've read the topic once again, and I've seen that the only one who was supporting the debate was probably just you, or am I wrong? There were also other people who opposed to Jinxy's wagon such as Irre and RB, but they didn't do much other than just making a post asking why we were voting for him. Also if the majority of the people here wanted to vote Jinxy for leader I guess it's because they thought it was a good idea, isn't it?

It's not because people voting jinxy is a good idea for me, but because people just voted jinxy out of nowhere. I'm sure there is scum hopping along in the first place.
Jinxy
2,777 posts
Joined February 2009
Jinxy
Lynch Vote Count
Nyquill (4) - rEdo, Jinxy, Raging Bull, Tanzklaue
fartownik (4) - Nyquill, -kevincela-, pieguy1372. Irreversible
CalignoBot (1) - Sephibro

I misread, we still have 3 days left actually, hopefully enough time for rEdo to speak.

Mod: Can we get your ISO on the main post too?


Hey fartownik:

Jinxy wrote:

fartownik wrote:

I'm just here to say that pieguy is scum, in case you lynch me before I get myself to read the belated pages.
So you haven't even fully read the pages, and are calling pieguy scum for having a scumread on you?
rEdo
809 posts
Joined November 2008
rEdo
Content incoming in 7-8 hours when I sober up a bit. Sorry for dragging you guys down.
Amianki
85 posts
Joined January 2011
Amianki
Tick tock.
Sephibro
512 posts
Joined November 2012
Sephibro

rEdo wrote:

Content incoming in 7-8 hours
I'm still waiting for that
rEdo
809 posts
Joined November 2008
rEdo
I'm three hours too late, oh no. I hope no one shat their pants waiting.

First seven pages were concerning fartownik's massclaim strategy which got discredited. Sephibro even said that this is a scumtell, with which I disagree - it's a good choice for Town to run that, but only at a LyLo or something like that. We can leave that for later. Nothing new behind the trashtalk, though.

fartownik wrote:

rEdo is null-Town and Tanz is Town.
What, I've posted just once until that moment and I'm semi-town already.

CalignoBot wrote:

One person is confirmed town. By your logic, he should instantly be given the rights to make the vote in this situation. However, let's say he also has my three biggest townreads outside of him as his scumpool. Do you really think I would want him to have the sole lynch power?

Believe it or not, your play can be incredibly town while still having abysmal reads.
what the actual fuck

CTs-Th wrote:

Well, I just post only 1 post after the game start, how did that possible for me to look scum/town?
And, why did you want a newbie like me to be a leader? Anything behind the curtain?
I believe that this was a reaction to you voting pieguy, who is an experienced player and that you think he'll know what to do. That's a town tell in my eyes as well.

Also I really dislike the way Caligno thinks about today's voting system. If the guy we've voted had refused to vote who we pick, that would be pretty much considered a scumclaim. And wow, fartownik being discredited for no particular reason here, just because he happened to agree with Caligno once.

CalignoBot wrote:

rEdo: Inactivity has very little to do with it.
Responding to fartownik's massclaim, the Jinxy and Nyquill vote and asking the cause of that read were the only things I've posted this game so far. I guess you're going to narrow down people that were all fine with voting Jinxy, that's alright.

And that random Nyquill's vote with no explanation whatsoever, as if to back-up Caligno's words. Tell me that I'm retarded, but that's scummy as shit for me. He indeed has explained it, though - he wants either Caligno or fartownik dead. Oh wait, look at this:

Nyquill wrote:

I merely wanted to move the game forward, because while I still believe one of farto and CB are likely to be scum, farto isn't incorrect when it comes to wanting to move forward the game in my eyes.
So you wanna lynch just to for the sake of lynching, alright. Why can't we lynch you then?

As for why people voted Jinxy to be the lyncher... I guess that was due to the fact that one person started that wagon and people simply hopped in. We've said that before - we choose the person to lynch anyway.
Nyquill
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Nyquill

rEdo wrote:

Nyquill wrote:

I merely wanted to move the game forward, because while I still believe one of farto and CB are likely to be scum, farto isn't incorrect when it comes to wanting to move forward the game in my eyes.
So you wanna lynch just to for the sake of lynching, alright. Why can't we lynch you then?
whats with you guys and putting words in my mouth...

How did moving the game forward equate to wanting to lynch for the sake of lynching?
Nyquill
osu! Alumni
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Nyquill
Also, deadline's here so, lynch calignobot and rEdo please.
Nyquill
osu! Alumni
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Nyquill
(on day 2)
Nyquill
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Nyquill
Jinxy: You need to kill someone
Jinxy
2,777 posts
Joined February 2009
Jinxy
Wait what how did I think there were 3 days more

Deadline is in 2 hours I believe, could someone check NH's day starting post? I just woke up.

I'm still going to lynch by majority, and I still feel you're the scummiest, Nyquill.

EXECUTE: Nyquill
Amianki
85 posts
Joined January 2011
Amianki

rEdo wrote:

First seven pages were concerning fartownik's massclaim strategy which got discredited. Sephibro even said that this is a scumtell, with which I disagree - it's a good choice for Town to run that, but only at a LyLo or something like that. We can leave that for later. Nothing new behind the trashtalk, though.
None of this means anything. It's all fluff.

rEdo wrote:

Also I really dislike the way Caligno thinks about today's voting system. If the guy we've voted had refused to vote who we pick, that would be pretty much considered a scumclaim. And wow, fartownik being discredited for no particular reason here, just because he happened to agree with Caligno once.
This general thought process is getting very tiring, very fast. Go read what I have to say about the voting process and why I believe mine was better, then tell me why it's worse. This statement proves you didn't even read it the first time, because you addressed literally nothing about it (while this was already addressed in my point).

Also, this is so vague that I can't even figure out where you're leaning with your reads.

rEdo wrote:

CalignoBot wrote:

rEdo: Inactivity has very little to do with it.
Responding to fartownik's massclaim, the Jinxy and Nyquill vote and asking the cause of that read were the only things I've posted this game so far. I guess you're going to narrow down people that were all fine with voting Jinxy, that's alright.
It was more that I had already outlined why I thought my way was better and your post was basically exactly the same as the one you just posted in response to me.

rEdo wrote:

As for why people voted Jinxy to be the lyncher... I guess that was due to the fact that one person started that wagon and people simply hopped in. We've said that before - we choose the person to lynch anyway.
And for the 50th time, I've stated why that strategy is sub-optimal. It was subsequently ignored by basically everyone except for fartownik for a brief time (which didn't result in my method being disproven at all). I specifically addressed that justification earlier, before it went through, but no one gave enough of a shit and just hammered it anyway. Trying to shove it under the rug was a slimy cop-out back then and it's still one now.

Vote: fartownik

If this guy flips scum, we're lynching rEdo tomorrow. They had similar methods of trying to brute force their opinion across and rEdo's every mention of fartownik in this post is literally fluff.
Amianki
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Amianki
TWO MINUTES

TWO MINUTES

FUCK
Amianki
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Amianki
Also it's funny how I managed to get my way anyway.
Jinxy
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Jinxy
Well, I could try and UNEXECUTE and EXECUTE:fartownik
Sephibro
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Sephibro
Jinxy decapitates Nyquill
Caligno: "no wait at 2 hrs from deadline i decided that i want to shit on what i've supported all day, i want farto dead and and i'll make an unlikely association with rEdo"
Jinxy takes Super Attak™ and glues Nyquill's head back to its own body. "sorry man there was a misunderstanding"
Jinxy decapitates fartownik
Nyquill
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Nyquill
haha oh man that would be hilarious
Sephibro
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Sephibro
are you fine nyquill?

Nyquill
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Nyquill
also, to town d2: Consider everyone (ESPECIALLY rEdo) was on my wagon to be suspicious, considering how unmoving they were regardless of how many explanations I throw out, and the fact that rEdo pretty much stuffed a bunch of shit in my mouth without really anything original to go against me.
Nyquill
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Nyquill

Sephibro wrote:

are you fine nyquill?

I actually never noticed how much detail they put into headless nick's neck.
Sephibro
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Sephibro

Nyquill wrote:

also, to town d2: Consider everyone (ESPECIALLY rEdo) was on my wagon to be suspicious, considering how unmoving they were regardless of how many explanations I throw out, and the fact that rEdo pretty much stuffed a bunch of shit in my mouth without really anything original to go against me.
i think i would start from those people who weren't on any wagon at all today
pieguyn
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pieguyn
wow I was right it really is Jinxy + farto

notice how it was even and Jinxy executed nyquill over farto

inb4 I was wrong on nyquill and I'm just being paranoid
NoHitter
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NoHitter
Lynch scene coming up guys.
NoHitter
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NoHitter
"Robot, execute Nyquill!" Jinxy announced having selected as the Leader.

The robot was going straight to Nyquill about to break his back.

"Wait!" one of the people on the ground told Jinxy. "Lynch farto instead!"

Surprised, Jinxy tried to stop the machine, "Robot, execute farto instead!"

But alas it was too late, the robot already broke Nyquill's back with such force, killing him. Nothing among the items in his body implicated him at all.
Nyquill - Vanilla Townie - Executed D1

And the robot, hearing the command of Jinxy was heading towards farto too. It apparently didn't know how to stop. The robot suddenly grabbed the body of fartownik, about to break it in half as well.

"Wait, so that means two people die today?" the crowd murmured.

"Well, nothing about the rules said that the Leader couldn't execute more than one person." the creator of the machine told everyone. "But that may be too loophole-y this time, so let's stop it at that."

The machine suddenly powered down, dropping fartownik. He would be spared from the wrath of the machine today.

IT IS NOW NIGHT 1. DEADLINE IS IN 48 HOURS.
NoHitter
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NoHitter
I apologize for being late. The Day is coming soon.
NoHitter
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The lights flickered off for a moment. In the darkness, a gunshot was heard. The lights flickered on once again, and you all saw the dead body of Jinxy.

He had a tablet of sorts of which he only knew the security code. It appeared that his tablet had the list of all the attendees and their affiliation. He was the Cop!

"What do you mean, he's the Cop. There's no actual cop in this convention?" one of the inventors interrupted by narration.

Hey I think you should stop breaking the fourth wall, and allow me to continue.

"Bah. Just hurry up with the flip and the new lynch mechanic of the day!" the man continued.

Look who's grumpy today. Fine here's the new flip and the lynch mechanic. Also, I'll kill you off if you interrupt me again.

Jinxy - Cop - Killed N1

Anyway, so the robot went all beep again and activated and cra- yeah I'm taking a break for now.

Double the Lynch!
- There will be two lynches today.
- Everyone will receive TWO votes which he/she must use on different people.
- Please distinguish your vote by this format: Vote1: Player A | Vote2: Player B
- You may unvote by this format: Unvote1 | Unvote2
- The day automatically ends when one person is hammered. The person with the next highest amount of votes will be lynched in tandem.
- The deadline is in one week, but you may choose to vote for the day to end by typing: END THE DAY. Hammer rules apply.
- If the deadline is reached, the two people with the most votes will be lynched.

IT IS NOW DAY 2. DEADLINE IS IN ONE WEEK.
Tanzklaue
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Tanzklaue

I don't know why in games i play the investigative roles always die first.
Tanzklaue
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Tanzklaue
anyway;

Vote1: farto
Tanzklaue
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Tanzklaue
Vote2: redo

scummiest person from the nyquill wagon, he also voted for nyquill without much of a reason.
I would be up for a no lynch on vote 2 aswell.
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull
Vote1:rEdo

rEdo seems to conveniently still kept his vote on Nyquill and voted without much reason. Especially since Nyquill challenged him and rEdo I guess conveniently skipped his question.

FoS on Kevin

I feel like he's just going along with the flow from Jinxy wagon and to a lesser extend with him voting on fartownik. Even though the massclaim was controversial, it seemed like he just voted for him and see if fartownik would get lynched.
Sephibro
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Sephibro
{farto, calignobot, pieguy, tanz} i think that 2 scum are among these

vote1: fartownik

Tanzklaue wrote:

I don't know why in games i play the investigative roles always die first.
was this post necessary?
think again about the setup
Tanzklaue
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Tanzklaue

Sephibro wrote:

{farto, calignobot, pieguy, tanz} i think that 2 scum are among these

vote1: fartownik

Tanzklaue wrote:

I don't know why in games i play the investigative roles always die first.
was this post necessary?
think again about the setup
that post was simply saying that i experienced the death of investigative roles on day1 multiple times. yeah, there is still the probability of watcher and/or tracker, but losing the cop in night 1 is... suboptimal.
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull
think about the set up.
Tanzklaue
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Tanzklaue
oh.

OH
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull
@Mod, do you mind if you post your own ISO?
Sephibro
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Sephibro

Raging Bull wrote:

@Mod, do you mind if you post your own ISO?
also me and jinxy asked that already :P
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull
Hmm

@pieguy, jumping back on this post of yours p/2772259 Jinxy is town, so what now about farto? I'm not seeing much connection between farto and jinxy in the first place. If there was supposedly a connection, I would assume farto and tanz instead.
Sephibro
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Sephibro

Tanzklaue wrote:

that post was simply saying that i experienced the death of investigative roles on day1 multiple times. yeah, there is still the probability of watcher and/or tracker, but losing the cop in night 1 is... suboptimal.
it looks more like an attempt to get some towncred
Sephibro
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Sephibro


oh look at what i found
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull

Raging Bull wrote:

wat the hell does that have to do with anything.
Sephibro
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Sephibro
btw seriously guys, if someone has information that can bring us to a 1v1, that would be optimal for today's lynch mechanic
-kevincela-
Elite Mapper
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-kevincela-

Raging Bull wrote:

FoS on Kevin

I feel like he's just going along with the flow from Jinxy wagon and to a lesser extend with him voting on fartownik. Even though the massclaim was controversial, it seemed like he just voted for him and see if fartownik would get lynched.
I am sorry if I seemed to go just along with the flow, though I can assure you that wasn't my intention. I still think my reasons for voting farto were legit, I personally don't think the reasons were so weak o.o also I've already explained why I jumped in Jinxy's vagon.

Anyways I won't vote for now, I want to see first what will happen this day before jumping into conclusions.
Chamelo
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Chamelo
/me worst. Decision. Ever.

Sephibro wrote:



oh look at what i found
Osu!arcade machine? Wow.

Btw:
Vote1: fartownik

Still have no idea for vote2.
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull
No, he just posted that because I'm in that video. but seriously

Raging Bull wrote:

wat the hell does that have to do with anything.
Sephibro
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Sephibro

CTs-Th wrote:

Osu!arcade machine? Wow.
no they're frostmourne and raging bull

btw, mind to post some content? you barely posted any so far
Sephibro
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Sephibro

Sephibro wrote:

btw, mind to post some content? you barely posted any so far
@kevincela and rEdo too
Chamelo
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Chamelo
Gosh, I kept confusing about day1 topic.

I don't know why pieguy said jinxy+farto even he suspected farto,as fuck.
And, I voted farto because he said that pieguy is scum.

I'll need to read everything again before I vote the second one. Exam's coming up. (Right after new year :cry: )
-kevincela-
Elite Mapper
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-kevincela-
Oh, one thing that I noticed is that some of you guys claimed CTs to be town thanks to "his reaction" at D1. But... are we really sure a scum couldn't act like that as well? It doesen't really seem a really good reason to claim he is actually a townie. Also, if my reasons and Irre's ones are "weak" on accusing fartownik, then also CTs' reasons don't seem to be that solid either, as he said in the post aboce "I voted farto because he said pieguy is scum". I'm starting to suspect him a bit there...
-kevincela-
Elite Mapper
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-kevincela-
oh yeah, Caligno's vote on fartownik right in the end on D1 is quite suspicious, as he claimed various times he wasn't going to take part in the plan of "voting to make someone lynched by Jinxy", or am I wrong? What made you change idea and directly vote fartownik, Caligno?
NoHitter
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NoHitter
VOTE COUNT 2.1
fartownik (3) - Tanzklaue-1, Sephibro-1, CTs-Th-1
rEdo (2) - Tanzklaue-2, Raging Bull-1

Not Voting (10) - -kevincela--1|2, CTs-Th-2, CalignoBot-1|2, Irreversible-1|2, Raging Bull-2, Sephibro-2, fartownik-1|2, pieguy1372-1|2, rEdo-1|2

Add my ISO to the first post.
Sephibro
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Sephibro

Sephibro wrote:

{farto, calignobot, pieguy, tanz} i think that 2 scum are among these
add rEdo, he hasn't posted in 3 days on this topic
Amianki
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Amianki

-kevincela- wrote:

oh yeah, Caligno's vote on fartownik right in the end on D1 is quite suspicious, as he claimed various times he wasn't going to take part in the plan of "voting to make someone lynched by Jinxy", or am I wrong? What made you change idea and directly vote fartownik, Caligno?
Because I was 100% sure that fartownik was by far the best kill target at that point in time.

Okay, I have a few thoughts.

1. We should definitely lynch one of fartownik+rEdo, but NOT both. There's a significant amount of information in one that will be lost if we kill both.
2. If we ever want a lurker lynch, I don't think we'll get a better day to.
3. Does anyone have a list of who was on which wagon at the end of the day?
4. I'm not voting yet.
rEdo
809 posts
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rEdo
@mod: Asking for a replacement. In all honesity, I've lost the interest in this game at the half of D1. Just wanted to see if Nyquill flips scum :D:D:D:
Sephibro
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Sephibro

CalignoBot wrote:

1. We should definitely lynch one of fartownik+rEdo, but NOT both. There's a significant amount of information in one that will be lost if we kill both.
i don't see such a strong association between them
Amianki
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Amianki
I'm pretty damn sure that if one is scum, the other is by far the next most likely to be scum.
Sephibro
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Sephibro
is poland too small for 2 scum?
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull
Just play it till the end rEdo, seems really bad enough to join and lose interest.
Sephibro
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Sephibro
or for 2 town?
pieguyn
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pieguyn
prod dodge
too tired to think about this game right now sry = =
Amianki
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Amianki
Sephibro read please.
Sephibro
512 posts
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Sephibro
oh that "by far" confused me

but again, why that association? i want to understand it
Sephibro
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Sephibro
@mod: please prod Irreversible and fartownik
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull
vote2:pieguy


-kevincela- wrote:

Oh, one thing that I noticed is that some of you guys claimed CTs to be town thanks to "his reaction" at D1. But... are we really sure a scum couldn't act like that as well? It doesen't really seem a really good reason to claim he is actually a townie. Also, if my reasons and Irre's ones are "weak" on accusing fartownik, then also CTs' reasons don't seem to be that solid either, as he said in the post aboce "I voted farto because he said pieguy is scum". I'm starting to suspect him a bit there...
Well his reaction to me seemed very towny since he was rather confused on why people started claiming him as conf town, especially since Calingo and I voted for him and he's like wtf why me.
Chamelo
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Chamelo
It's my first time playing King Maker. :?
That's why I just want to stay back and watch.

Btw, my reason for voting farto wasn't clear.
For his meta, he usually said "xxx is scum/my partner" before he really flipped scum. I just hope that it'll be the same in this game.
(In fact, I rather don't like his scumpaint method, it just make me wanna lynch him even he's town or not.)

Exam this week, hopefully I can post some content soon or later.
NoHitter
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NoHitter
VOTE COUNT 2.2
fartownik (3) - Tanzklaue-1, Sephibro-1, CTs-Th-1
rEdo (2) - Tanzklaue-2, Raging Bull-1
pieguy1372 (1) - Raging Bull-2

Not Voting (9) - -kevincela--1|2, CTs-Th-2, CalignoBot-1|2, Irreversible-1|2, Sephibro-2, fartownik-1|2, pieguy1372-1|2, rEdo-1|2

Sent prods
Looking for rEdo replacement
Sephibro
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Sephibro

CTs-Th wrote:

It's my first time playing King Maker. :?
That's why I just want to stay back and watch.

Btw, my reason for voting farto wasn't clear.
For his meta, he usually said "xxx is scum/my partner" before he really flipped scum. I just hope that it'll be the same in this game.
(In fact, I rather don't like his scumpaint method, it just make me wanna lynch him even he's town or not.)

Exam this week, hopefully I can post some content soon or later.
this whole post actually makes no sense at all
Sephibro
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Sephibro
lurkfest
Irreversible
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Irreversible
Hm i don^'t know really, but wtf reDo, you can't be serious.. I mean you could just Keep playing, but no. Too much Drama anyway in this game, probably it's better that you're gone.

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