reDo, did you even post anything yet?
Wait for n1 to go by implies you just want d1 to end. And i was probably the first to suspect you in the very beginning.Nyquill wrote:
+ RB Won't clarify so thats also something I can't do anything about, doesn't anybody else notice something wrong about this?
Hes v/la , but why dont you post something? Like the reads you said you will post after you slept. And if you think fart is scum, why not vote him? Unless youaare scared?Irreversible wrote:
reDo, did you even post anything yet?
I meant I want one or the other to happen before making a decision on anything about those two, I think you're just putting words in my mouth now.Nyquill wrote:
Speaking of, my reads on CB and Farto are collective. I don't really have a specific individual read on them yet, which is why I kind of want one of them to flip, or wait for N1 to go by.
That's new. Why did you suddenly suggest rEdo, when he wasn't in your primary lurker list, and:Nyquill wrote:
My suggestions for D1 Lynch: rEdo, Kevincela, CTs-th, do what you will with it.
CalignoBot wrote:
Scum: fartownik, rEdo, Nyquill
Have fun.
Also, if I checked correctly rEdo returns the same time as D1 deadline. Should we get an extension?Nyquill wrote:
In case you guys haven't noticed, my confusion came from almost purely the misunderstanding of the post before the entire scenario, but w.e, enjoy lynching calignobot'sscumtown (save for fartownik) pool.
It is new, I reconsidered after RB's point, and he was pretty close to falling into my null-scum list anyways.Jinxy wrote:
That's new. Why did you suddenly suggest rEdo, when he wasn't in your primary lurker list, and:Nyquill wrote:
My suggestions for D1 Lynch: rEdo, Kevincela, CTs-th, do what you will with it.CalignoBot wrote:
Scum: fartownik, rEdo, Nyquill
Have fun.Nyquill wrote:
In case you guys haven't noticed, my confusion came from almost purely the misunderstanding of the post before the entire scenario, but w.e, enjoy lynching calignobot'sscumtown (save for fartownik) pool.
Just one thing: why didn't you include Irreversible here while you included him before in the null-scum list? Is there anything that made you change idea about him? It seems a bit suspicious, as you threw him into that list before (and still, Irre hasn't done really much now).Nyquill wrote:
My suggestions for D1 Lynch: rEdo, Kevincela, CTs-th, do what you will with it.
And why I'm in your lynch pool?Nyquill wrote:
My suggestions for D1 Lynch: rEdo, Kevincela, CTs-th, do what you will with it.
nice, I'm glad my townread on you is correctCTs-Th wrote:
NO!
Well, I just post only 1 post after the game start, how did that possible for me to look scum/town?
And, why did you want a newbie like me to be a leader? Anything behind the curtain?
RVSRaging Bull wrote:
pieguy, why vote Nyquill and FoS him? Wouldn't that mean you are going to vote the leader you think is scum?
you can be townIrreversible wrote:
suspsicipon
this is badfartownik wrote:
No shit sherlock. You had one vote WHICH WAS MINE. JInxy had one vote WHICH WAS YOURS. If I add a vote on JInxy it GIVES TWO. I couldn't add more votes on you so I voted JINXY.
Is this really so hard to understand?
Also uh oh caligno sweetheart I'm sorry. I will answer your pointy point right away.
fuck no. it's too easy for scum to get away with shit by saying "lolol it was a reaction test". in a game on MS that just finished, scum tried to quick hammer, FAILED, and wrote it off as a reaction test and no one caught it. town was apathetic as fuck that game so they were prob just too lazy to fix it, but same ideafartownik wrote:
2. I have no idea why you find this a scumtell, also I already admitted I've proposed it today for the reactions.
this x 9000Irreversible wrote:
Jinxy didn't even say much so far, how did that wagon happen after all? I don't really understand.
mehNyquill wrote:
My suggestions for D1 Lynch: rEdo, Kevincela, CTs-th, do what you will with it.
nice, I'm glad my townread on you is correctpieguy1372"
NO!
[quote="CTs-Th wrote:
Well, I just post only 1 post after the game start, how did that possible for me to look scum/town?
And, why did you want a newbie like me to be a leader? Anything behind the curtain?
farto usually perform a reaction test. Seems like a cheap excuse.pieguy1372 wrote:
fuck no. it's too easy for scum to get away with shit by saying "lolol it was a reaction test". in a game on MS that just finished, scum tried to quick hammer, FAILED, and wrote it off as a reaction test and no one caught it. town was apathetic as fuck that game so they were prob just too lazy to fix it, but same ideafartownik wrote:
2. I have no idea why you find this a scumtell, also I already admitted I've proposed it today for the reactions.
Yes. Lurker lynch is much better D1 as lynches based on strong reads can be made better after flips.pieguy1372 wrote:
really, just meh. you p much put 3 lurkers. do you really not wanna lynch anyone who's active?
Tanzklaue wrote:
yea, I am also getting suspicious of how fast the wagon grew.
I didn't join the wagon.Irreversible wrote:
Kevin you say I don't do much, what did you do yet?
alright, so farto was super agressive at the begin, now he lost Motivation - just because you don't get what you want? If you were town, you would still fight that we win. But this is just an "excuse".
pvote: fartownik
Can I get an Explanation on the wagon? I'd like to see reasons why you voted him
Tanzklaue, can I also know why you joined the wagon and afterwards you sayTanzklaue wrote:
yea, I am also getting suspicious of how fast the wagon grew.
I could but in this case I feel it'd be better if people know the reason for the townreadCTs-Th wrote:
pieguy, you also quoted my "omg math" and said I can be town. Can't you just mention me instead?
I'm inclined to agree with caligno. there's more to it than that. we don't even know Jinxy's reads and he hasn't done anything extremely town looking. and the way it formed was way too hasty 0.0Sephibro wrote:
Again: p/2770320pieguy1372 wrote:
as of 11, I hate this wagon on Jinxy. I don't think anyone ever gave the reason behind their townreads on him but it feels off especially considering he's not at all a bad scumplayer iirc, and i don't see anything he did that looks really town 0.0
Lurker lynch D1 is awful. They give very little information to go on (RE: association) and are a complete crapshoot as to their alignment rather than a partial crapshoot.Nyquill wrote:
Yes. Lurker lynch is much better D1 as lynches based on strong reads can be made better after flips.pieguy1372 wrote:
really, just meh. you p much put 3 lurkers. do you really not wanna lynch anyone who's active?
So you haven't even fully read the pages, and are calling pieguy scum for having a scumread on you?fartownik wrote:
I'm just here to say that pieguy is scum, in case you lynch me before I get myself to read the belated pages.
The lynch is also a flip, and lynching a lurker wouldn't help reads much either.Nyquill wrote:
Yes. Lurker lynch is much better D1 as lynches based on strong reads can be made better after flips.pieguy1372 wrote:
really, just meh. you p much put 3 lurkers. do you really not wanna lynch anyone who's active?
huh that's a good point. it feels like kevin is just going with the flow 0.0Raging Bull wrote:
kevin and Irre votes seem rather like a weak reason to even vote farto.
My post didn't want to be a claim at all, if you read my post again and Nyquill's ones you can see that he has included you in the lurkers list here, though he hasn't included you in the "final list". Doesen't this seem at least a bit strange, considered that nothing much at all changed?Irreversible wrote:
Kevin you say I don't do much, what did you do yet?
The reason the wagon was shit was because it was hammered while there was an ongoing debate on whether it was a good idea or not.-kevincela- wrote:
My post didn't want to be a claim at all, if you read my post again and Nyquill's ones you can see that he has included you in the lurkers list here, though he hasn't included you in the "final list". Doesen't this seem at least a bit strange, considered that nothing much at all changed?Irreversible wrote:
Kevin you say I don't do much, what did you do yet?
About the wagon on Jinxy I really don't get what's wrong with it. I mean, does the choice of the lyncher really matter while the lynchee is being chosen based on our votes? To be honest I thought that Jinxy could be a valid leader and I still think so, considering that he's trying to gather everybody's opinions to choose the lynchee. If some of you guys think he could be a scum, then why don't you suspect him instead on the 2nd day? I don't think it would be a big issue anyway.
"This is what scum absolutely love, by the way."CalignoBot wrote:
And no, I still say it was a shit concept, but there's no real point trying to argue it anymore. I gave my scumreads somewhere a few pages ago and I'm not really willing to go along with this whole "vote for the leader to lynch someone" because I do still think it's not what we should be doing today.
"I gave my scumreads"Sephibro wrote:
"This is what scum absolutely love, by the way."CalignoBot wrote:
And no, I still say it was a shit concept, but there's no real point trying to argue it anymore. I gave my scumreads somewhere a few pages ago and I'm not really willing to go along with this whole "vote for the leader to lynch someone" because I do still think it's not what we should be doing today.
-kevincela- wrote:
I've read the topic once again, and I've seen that the only one who was supporting the debate was probably just you, or am I wrong? There were also other people who opposed to Jinxy's wagon such as Irre and RB, but they didn't do much other than just making a post asking why we were voting for him. Also if the majority of the people here wanted to vote Jinxy for leader I guess it's because they thought it was a good idea, isn't it?
Jinxy wrote:
So you haven't even fully read the pages, and are calling pieguy scum for having a scumread on you?fartownik wrote:
I'm just here to say that pieguy is scum, in case you lynch me before I get myself to read the belated pages.
I'm still waiting for thatrEdo wrote:
Content incoming in 7-8 hours
What, I've posted just once until that moment and I'm semi-town already.fartownik wrote:
rEdo is null-Town and Tanz is Town.
what the actual fuckCalignoBot wrote:
One person is confirmed town. By your logic, he should instantly be given the rights to make the vote in this situation. However, let's say he also has my three biggest townreads outside of him as his scumpool. Do you really think I would want him to have the sole lynch power?
Believe it or not, your play can be incredibly town while still having abysmal reads.
I believe that this was a reaction to you voting pieguy, who is an experienced player and that you think he'll know what to do. That's a town tell in my eyes as well.CTs-Th wrote:
Well, I just post only 1 post after the game start, how did that possible for me to look scum/town?
And, why did you want a newbie like me to be a leader? Anything behind the curtain?
Responding to fartownik's massclaim, the Jinxy and Nyquill vote and asking the cause of that read were the only things I've posted this game so far. I guess you're going to narrow down people that were all fine with voting Jinxy, that's alright.CalignoBot wrote:
rEdo: Inactivity has very little to do with it.
So you wanna lynch just to for the sake of lynching, alright. Why can't we lynch you then?Nyquill wrote:
I merely wanted to move the game forward, because while I still believe one of farto and CB are likely to be scum, farto isn't incorrect when it comes to wanting to move forward the game in my eyes.
whats with you guys and putting words in my mouth...rEdo wrote:
So you wanna lynch just to for the sake of lynching, alright. Why can't we lynch you then?Nyquill wrote:
I merely wanted to move the game forward, because while I still believe one of farto and CB are likely to be scum, farto isn't incorrect when it comes to wanting to move forward the game in my eyes.
None of this means anything. It's all fluff.rEdo wrote:
First seven pages were concerning fartownik's massclaim strategy which got discredited. Sephibro even said that this is a scumtell, with which I disagree - it's a good choice for Town to run that, but only at a LyLo or something like that. We can leave that for later. Nothing new behind the trashtalk, though.
This general thought process is getting very tiring, very fast. Go read what I have to say about the voting process and why I believe mine was better, then tell me why it's worse. This statement proves you didn't even read it the first time, because you addressed literally nothing about it (while this was already addressed in my point).rEdo wrote:
Also I really dislike the way Caligno thinks about today's voting system. If the guy we've voted had refused to vote who we pick, that would be pretty much considered a scumclaim. And wow, fartownik being discredited for no particular reason here, just because he happened to agree with Caligno once.
It was more that I had already outlined why I thought my way was better and your post was basically exactly the same as the one you just posted in response to me.rEdo wrote:
Responding to fartownik's massclaim, the Jinxy and Nyquill vote and asking the cause of that read were the only things I've posted this game so far. I guess you're going to narrow down people that were all fine with voting Jinxy, that's alright.CalignoBot wrote:
rEdo: Inactivity has very little to do with it.
And for the 50th time, I've stated why that strategy is sub-optimal. It was subsequently ignored by basically everyone except for fartownik for a brief time (which didn't result in my method being disproven at all). I specifically addressed that justification earlier, before it went through, but no one gave enough of a shit and just hammered it anyway. Trying to shove it under the rug was a slimy cop-out back then and it's still one now.rEdo wrote:
As for why people voted Jinxy to be the lyncher... I guess that was due to the fact that one person started that wagon and people simply hopped in. We've said that before - we choose the person to lynch anyway.
I actually never noticed how much detail they put into headless nick's neck.Sephibro wrote:
are you fine nyquill?
i think i would start from those people who weren't on any wagon at all todayNyquill wrote:
also, to town d2: Consider everyone (ESPECIALLY rEdo) was on my wagon to be suspicious, considering how unmoving they were regardless of how many explanations I throw out, and the fact that rEdo pretty much stuffed a bunch of shit in my mouth without really anything original to go against me.
was this post necessary?Tanzklaue wrote:
I don't know why in games i play the investigative roles always die first.
that post was simply saying that i experienced the death of investigative roles on day1 multiple times. yeah, there is still the probability of watcher and/or tracker, but losing the cop in night 1 is... suboptimal.Sephibro wrote:
{farto, calignobot, pieguy, tanz} i think that 2 scum are among these
vote1: fartownikwas this post necessary?Tanzklaue wrote:
I don't know why in games i play the investigative roles always die first.
think again about the setup
also me and jinxy asked that alreadyRaging Bull wrote:
@Mod, do you mind if you post your own ISO?
it looks more like an attempt to get some towncredTanzklaue wrote:
that post was simply saying that i experienced the death of investigative roles on day1 multiple times. yeah, there is still the probability of watcher and/or tracker, but losing the cop in night 1 is... suboptimal.
Raging Bull wrote:
wat the hell does that have to do with anything.
I am sorry if I seemed to go just along with the flow, though I can assure you that wasn't my intention. I still think my reasons for voting farto were legit, I personally don't think the reasons were so weak o.o also I've already explained why I jumped in Jinxy's vagon.Raging Bull wrote:
FoS on Kevin
I feel like he's just going along with the flow from Jinxy wagon and to a lesser extend with him voting on fartownik. Even though the massclaim was controversial, it seemed like he just voted for him and see if fartownik would get lynched.
Osu!arcade machine? Wow.Sephibro wrote:
oh look at what i found
Raging Bull wrote:
wat the hell does that have to do with anything.
no they're frostmourne and raging bullCTs-Th wrote:
Osu!arcade machine? Wow.
@kevincela and rEdo tooSephibro wrote:
btw, mind to post some content? you barely posted any so far
add rEdo, he hasn't posted in 3 days on this topicSephibro wrote:
{farto, calignobot, pieguy, tanz} i think that 2 scum are among these
Because I was 100% sure that fartownik was by far the best kill target at that point in time.-kevincela- wrote:
oh yeah, Caligno's vote on fartownik right in the end on D1 is quite suspicious, as he claimed various times he wasn't going to take part in the plan of "voting to make someone lynched by Jinxy", or am I wrong? What made you change idea and directly vote fartownik, Caligno?
i don't see such a strong association between themCalignoBot wrote:
1. We should definitely lynch one of fartownik+rEdo, but NOT both. There's a significant amount of information in one that will be lost if we kill both.