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Topic Starter
Clare
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2010年4月9日 at 15:41:54

Artist: angela
Title: Beautiful Fighter
Source: Shikabane Hime Kuro
Tags: Anime Open [no map]
BPM: 165.02
Filesize: 8718kb
Play Time: 01:25
Difficulties Available:
  1. Hard (4.48 stars, 188 notes)
  2. Insane (5 stars, 265 notes)
  3. Normal (2.63 stars, 69 notes)
  4. Open's Revenge (4.91 stars, 180 notes)
Download: angela - Beautiful Fighter
Download: angela - Beautiful Fighter (no video)
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NO.2 Map~
LKs
看了一下,节奏还好,大体的方面不错
但你的nomral太难了,spacing没有掌握好
insane有点点击的错误
慢慢来~
Topic Starter
Clare
我把NORMAL改為HARD了 然後把Overall Difficulty 改的快一點
然後NOEMAL 在製作中 INSANE的點擊錯誤 具體哪個位子呢? 告訴我一下 好讓我修改 謝謝了~
Breeze
skin很棒,timing对我来说很准

[General]
  1. 设置一个preview time, 移到00:37:445, 选择timng - set current postion as preview
  2. tag和source有的话也请加上
  3. osb文件不需要,删掉再full submit
  4. [Insane]也加上1.5秒的audio lead-in
  5. MP3长了点,可以考虑裁剪
  6. 你还需要做一个normal或者easy,hard对新手来说还是难了点
先说几个我觉得比较重要的需要注意的地方
  1. jump虽然是允许的,但是在一个map里总体的大部分spacing应该是一致的,只有少数note,比如说相比其他note间隔较大的或者是歌词的高潮部分之类的,spacing可以提升游戏乐趣,但是随处都是jump是会让整个map看起来很乱的
  2. timing section的设置里如果有hitsound改变或者BPM改变的,应该在开始这个变化的note前一点设置这个timing section而不是刚好设置在那个note上,不然玩的时候点击早了会产生不同音效或者slider速度不均匀的情况,slider结尾或者spinner结尾可以直接设置不提前
[Hard]
  1. 00:11:633之前的这些note spacing太乱了,开着distance spacing来放吧
  2. 00:26:902 (1) - 这个跳太远了
  3. 00:26:902 (1-7) - spacing还是大了点
  4. 00:33:455 (1) - spacing
  5. 00:35:082 (4) - spacing
  6. 00:36:536 (5) - spacing
  7. 00:58:531 (5) - spacing,这个还好...hard来说可行
  8. 01:23:434 (6) - spacing
[Insane]
  1. 说实话,那些1/8拍的连打听起来不好听,1/4足够了
  2. 00:35:082 (4,5) - jump的话这两个应该也和前面的(1,2,3)等间距
  3. 01:23:434 (6) - spacing
insane不错,hard的spacing问题得再好好排排
star
statementreply
BPM: 82.50 (其实是165.00,不过既然现在是82.52的话……XD)
Offset: 742
Topic Starter
Clare
以改好 感謝指導~ 再試試看有沒問題
Breeze
[Hard]没设preview time,每个难度都要设而且要一致,insane已经有了,把hard的设置上
o.o source和tag还是没加,不知道来源么?嘛,如果知道是什么动画或者游戏的能加就加吧,是在不知道就算了

[Hard]
  1. 00:05:832 (4,5) - 这里保持一样的spacing感觉好些
  2. 00:30:196 (1) - spacing,这个明显该放得离前面的(1)近些,自己test玩玩就知道,很多比较明显的玩起不顺的地方就一定有问题,另外这里不该new combo
  3. 00:33:651 (1) - 这个不该隔这么远,后面的00:34:378 (1)可以,因为00:34:378 (1)是相隔1/2拍的,而这里的和前面一样是相隔1/4拍,没道理spacing突然变
  4. 00:35:105 (4) - ^
Hard的spacing还是有些问题,也就是这些了
note排列不错

不用再给我kudosu了
再找其他人看看你的map
多mod然后让这个map变得更完美吧 : )
Topic Starter
Clare
改好了 另外EAZY 製作中 還未完成 謝謝指導
Aakiha
首先 hard
00:12:360 (1) - 这个sp结束的地方个人觉得有点违和 要麽拖长到00:14:923 要麽按照背景音乐把4声前奏都补齐吧
00:33:287 (4) - 这里处理用2个1/4拍长度的slider直接过渡到下一句歌词会比较好听 虽然你现在这样下也不能算是错误
但这样完全按照唱词导致都是1/4拍顺序点 会让人觉得乏味……不管是玩起来还是听起来
不妨试着加多点节奏进去 另外spacing规律了当然很好 也是必要的前提 但可以按段落适当的加大一点距离 按住alt然后转鼠标滚轮可以调整这个东西

00:34:741 (3) - ^
00:36:196 (4) - ^ 记得后面的note安排也要相应修改
00:46:741 (8) - 变成note
00:49:469 (1) - 和后面的2一起后移1/4
记住 这些都只是“建议” (包括下面的insane)
因为严格来说这都不算错误 只是我觉得这样会更顺耳
点击过多但距离太近 排列又没有花样的话会缺乏可玩性 要麽加jump(尽量在节奏非常容易跟或者时间间隔大一点的地方加) 要麽加点slider
看一下大象的签名图 也许会对你有启发

insane
第一个sp在00:05:105 结束
00:12:360 (1) - 00:14:196 结束 去掉这里的1
所有的1/8连点……听起来都有点突兀 把开始和结束时间重新考虑一下吧
最后的slider01:25:105 开始好一些
加油 从皮肤来看你应该已经下了不少功夫 不要半途而废
Topic Starter
Clare
改好了 對我幫助很大~謝謝
Aakiha
100pa-
先星再看, 反正短. 回头顺便给个难度XD
那啥, nml和hard你自己不test么? 很多地方明显都是"第一次打铁定会错"的那种......


另外老实说我真挺佩服你们一首歌一个书签都不打, 我完成度不到30%的图都得整成这样= =

100pa-
只说点总体意见跟不足, 优点跟技术问题不细说了




1, 这歌几个能提升整曲档次的地方都在后面, 无视掉可惜了, 做full ver的应该会比较有魅力

2, nml/hard, 每小节打bookmark反复test, 突兀的地方很明显

3, insane只看到了happy30的形, 魂不在-w-
 不光是之前说的排版和整体绕圈单调, 比如人家的定番变奏可以试着作下, 正好没有比02:25更适合变的地方了

4, nml/hard用来强调升华曲子本身风格, insane是对曲子的个人解释和再编译.
 别去附和什么, 也不要被什么东西框住

5, 难得都弄了皮肤音效, 配色什么的应该多考虑点,
 比如配合背景图的话, 红/白/黑应该比你的白/灰/灰要合适.

6, 图太干净了,各种意义上. 让人感觉不到诚意-w-
 offset太迟, 书签 kiai什么的该加要加

Download: peppy - Lix - Tori no Uta -Ethereal House Mix- [Hard] (2010-04-05) Osu.osr
Open [no map]
Topic Starter
Clare
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
ZeTia
;) star
xBubu
star!
mike780913
star~
LKs
~
overall
要有简单难度,否则不会rank (这算是一种潜规则? :roll:
按键颜色太难分辨了啦,至少用一个彩色的吧(深蓝色怎样?
没用的部分要删去

比第一次看好了很多呢~

hard
[00:12:37] 这样不好 转盘往后一点,并且结束在[00;14:19] 加上finish音效
[00:17:65] 向左一格,向下一格
[00:47:10] 转盘开始在[00:47:28] 结束点不变
[01:07:65] 向右一格格子,同时别忘了连带着修改后面的间距
[01:78:37] 向上一格
[01:20:19] 向左一格

insane
perfect! 这是Open [no map]做的还是你做的?
唯一缺点就是单调,你可以参考3L这首,同样的风格但是有乐趣

lunatic
[00:52:90] new combo
[00:57:45] ^
[01:24:90] 好难看XD..
这难度也不错啊,果然是你最近rank升的很快,玩的图很多就有经验了~
主要问题是一些折返的slider没有压在音上,注意一下

+star
Topic Starter
Clare
修好了 長度不修改好了 好讓別人收藏歌曲XD
Kagamine__Rin
star!
LKs

Clare wrote:

修好了 長度不修改好了 好讓別人收藏歌曲XD
UMM..你是这么想的话最好在 MAP的简介里面写出来(中文和英文
否则以后也会有人来提出
joshua7911
star :!:
Lesjuh
- Just half of the mp3 is mapped, cut a part of it. (lol the mp3 is bigger than the video)
- The hitcircle has a small dot outside of the circle itself at the right. Remove it.
- There is an inherited section (green line) ON the actual timing section (red line). Remove the inherited and enable soft hitsound s in the first timing section.
- I can't read chinese/japanese, if other players made a difficulty be sure to credit them for their difficulties (in the OP or difficulty name) unless they don't want to. Also add their usernames as a tag.

[Hard:]
00:17:651 (4) - Distance snap
00:40:560 (1,2,3,4) - This overlap is ugly and very hard to read because of the too short distance.
01:07:651 (3) - Distance between this slider and the previous one differs from the patterns before it. > 01:04:014 (2,3)

There are other small spacing errors, I suggest you check out the 1/2 beats again. It looks better when the distance between them is the same.

[Insane:]
This map is perfect o_o

[Lunatic:]
01:24:908 (6) - I'd put a new combo on this one

That will do, be sure to fix the general errors at the top of this post. The insane difficulties look great ;>
Topic Starter
Clare
thanks~
Card N'FoRcE
- General:
  • Are Angela and Fighter supposed to be capitalized?
    itcircle.png should be fixed: it's very pixelated and there are some "dots" that stand out (check carefully in the editor, you should see a white dot to the right of every hitcircle)
    Every difficulty has a different offset: I found 734 to be the best one. Please apply it to every difficulty and be sure to resnap all notes and recheck the whole map (you may need to fix some inherited sections)
- Normal:
  • .Suggestions:
    00:26:953 - add a beat here?
    make this end at 01:27:999?
- Hard:
  • .Opinions:
    Good job here
- Open's Difficulty:
  • .Opinions:
    00:46:722 (6) - LOLWUT
    02:23:00 - 02:46:00 - people will complain about this long break, maybe.
    Anyway, this difficulty is awesome. It's really awesome, there are things i've never seen before, great job on this one ^^
- Insane:
  • .Opinions:
    Fine.
- Lunatic:
  • .Opinions:
    Lunatic? O.o This isn't a touhou map xD
    Anyway, this seems ok too ^^
Consider this starred when timing is fixed (i'll trust you and star it now btw :P ) and kudosu star is for the "Open's difficulty", that one was great.
Ask me again for another check, you may get a protobubble ^^
Topic Starter
Clare
thanks~
Crazy Jay
moded on irc
star
Dangaard

lesjuh wrote:

- The hitcircle has a small dot outside of the circle itself at the right. Remove it.
maybe you forgot to fullsubmit, you should change this if you didn't already.

[general]
remove the .osb file from your folder (or at least the code of the picture it is SBing, since the picture isn't in the folder)

[Normal]
Be carefull with shorter return sliders and beats shortly after the end of spinners, these possibly make your normal harder than you think. Also the breaks feel randomly placed here.

[Hard]

actually there is no need for the first green line at all, you can put soft-sample to the red line.
01:10:370 (1) - should start 1 blue tick later (keep the end though = make the slider a bit shorter)

[Crazy]
seems a bit random on some parts, and the last slider looks a bit unshaped/unfinished

[Open's Difficulty]

maybe you should remove the video for this diff since this is full size.
resnap the following beats:
00:06:734 (2) -
00:40:005 (19) -
00:42:913 (18) -
01:55:457 (1) -
01:55:639 (2) -

00:50:176 (1) - move this a bit around in timeline, it's not snapped properly
01:13:449 (1) - end kiai time here?
01:40:540 (5,6,7,8) - I would make this a triplet-slider combination as well
01:58:539 (2) - yay, thats fast^^
01:59:994 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - might be really hard to read
02:03:084 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - same here
02:17:993 (2) - slider is pretty much hidden
02:19:448 (5) - same here
make the last kiai section end shortly after last beat

I'm not telling you what to do, I just pointed out what you might rethink of.
Topic Starter
Clare
thanks~
gdeath
Overall :
[Crazy]PreviewTime: 37635
[Hard]PreviewTime: 37651
[Insane]PreviewTime: 37453
[Normal]PreviewTime: 37453
[Open's Difficulty]PreviewTime: 37453
把所有难度的PreviewTime设定成同一个数值(以上是你现在的设定,有些细微的差别)

[Normal]
01:25:279 (1) - make it start on 01:25:461 and end on 01:28:006(听起来更好)
Cancel lead-in

[Hard]
00:23:097 (10) - 和00:22:370 (7)保持平行

[Open's Difficulty]
00:11:270 (2,3,1,2) - 建议修改,太难读懂了。
最后一个Break时间有点长了,缩短点。
i dont like this diff :[

[Insane]
cancel lead-in
00:45:280 (2,3,4) - 这种连续下3 clap的方法都得改。sound bad.根据歌曲本身的鼓点,每隔一条白线下一个clap
01:24:006 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - 按照上面的方法改掉,其他我就不罗列了

[Crazy]
cancel lead-in
00:26:915 --->00:32:734 适当的加soft-whistle

star for new mapper
xierbaliti
-Crazy-
00:20:188 (1) - 这个clap删掉然后在后面的白线上+个note? clap放到新+的note上._. 00:26:006 (1) - 同样
00:32:915 (1) - 有些看不清 new combo吧._. 会好些
00:26:915 (1) - 从这开始的部分还是用normal音效吧 音量小1些 然后在00:27:279 00:28:006 00:28:734 00:30:188 00:30:915 00:31:643 00:32:370补上clap ._. 如果坚持soft音效的话 换成whistle
01:12:915 这里要不要+1个note =w=

-Insane-
mapset挺好 音效不是我喜欢的类型 ._.为什么不按照Crazy难度的音效来+ ._.

-OPEN-
lol diff ._.
在最后的note后面+条绿线结束kiai
note即使再大1号我依然点不到╮(╯▽╰)╭ 好难

-Hard-
一些音效的建议._.
00:25:824 (7) - 去掉clap
00:31:279 (3) - ^
00:38:552 (4) - ^
00:40:733 (2) - 在slider后面+上clap
00:41:461 (4) - 去掉clap
00:43:643 (2) - 在slider后面+上clap
00:45:461 (1) - +clap
00:45:824 (3) - 去掉clap
00:46:188 (5) - +clap
00:58:915 (1) - ^
01:01:097 (2) - 去掉clap
01:01:824 (1) - ^
01:03:824 (1,2,1) - ^
01:06:734 (1,2) - ^
01:07:643 (1) - 去掉前面的clap
01:22:733 (4,5,6) - 把clap换成finish?
01:24:188 (1) - 去掉clap
01:24:370 (2) - 去掉前面的clap 在末尾+clap
01:24:915 (3) - 去掉clap
01:25:097 (4) - 去掉clap 末尾音量0?

star :)
Topic Starter
Clare
OK 修好了 謝謝 兩位~
Ana_Coppola
star~~~~ :)
Lesjuh
[Open:]

00:25:270 (3) - Slider overlaps itself :[
01:40:813 (8) - Move the slider one tick to the right on the timeline and put an extra beat in this stream. \
01:59:994 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1) - This is like, very unrankable.
02:17:993 (2) & 02:19:448 (5) - You can't see the lenght of the slider due to overlapping ;[
02:58:357 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - There's no music wich makes it really hard to time these and it's hard to read due to overlapping.
03:01:448 - End this kiai section right after the final beat.
00:06:734 (2) - Unsnapped
00:40:005 (19) - Unsnapped
00:42:913 (18) - Unsnapped
01:55:457 (1) - Unsnapped
01:55:639 (2) - Usnapped

Look over the 1BPM sections again, try to fix the unsnapped beats and be sure the timing and offset is the same as in the other diffs.

Away from the red sections everything looks fine for ranking to me :P
Topic Starter
Clare
thanks~ :D
Dusty
对不起,我只学汉语学了三年了,所以我说得不太好。

[Normal]
00:35:643 (1) - 多我来说,太多finish :(,请把slider repeat的finish删除吧?

[Hard]
00:45:461 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - increase spacing?
01:08:915 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ^
01:13:279 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5) - ^

[Open's Difficulty]
O_O

[Insane]
不错

*star
Topic Starter
Clare
thanks~ 感謝拉~
Card N'FoRcE
Here I am, to recheck this one :D

Ok, everything is ok for me. I only have one question and a request.
EDIT: Normal: 00:26:915 (3) - i told you to add a beat, not a whole slider xD I think it feels weird, but it's your choice anyway.

Please capitalize the F in "Beautiful fighter". I know angela is not capitalized, but the title is, it looks better.

As soon as you do this, ask me for a protobubble, the map is ok.
DJPop
MP3 and BGs are missing D:

I just got the .osz file with only 5 .osu files in it.
Card N'FoRcE
Yeah, i noticed that too.
I asked Clare to make a full reupload, but BG and mp3 are still missing O.o

I dunno what happened and i feel it's my fault for telling him/her to fix the "F" ç_ç

EDIT: osz now is fine. Title fixed. Protobubbled ^^
Topic Starter
Clare
thank you very much^^
DJPop
~Normal~
00:18:734 - remove clap here
00:24:552 - ^
00:44:552 (1) - end on white tick
00:58:552 (1) - remove new combo
01:21:824 (1) - ^

~Hard~
00:06:552 (5) - new combo
00:06:733 (1) - remove new combo
00:09:643 (1) - ^
00:47:279 (1) - start on left blue tick

~Open's Difficulty~
00:06:734 (2) - silence the slideslide and the last note
01:01:086 (1) - start on left white tick, add hitfinish
01:17:813 (4) - new combo
01:38:358 (8) - ^
01:40:722 (7,8) - sounds weird
01:44:176 (8) - new combo
01:54:177 (1) - silence the sliderslide
01:55:631 (2) - ^
02:08:175 (6) - end on white tick
02:22:539 (1) - start on left red tick, add hitfinish
02:46:539 (1) - silence the sliderslide
02:49:448 (1) - ^
02:50:902 (4,5,6,7) - ^
03:01:812 - end Kiai here

~Insane~
00:17:097 (1) - remove new combo
00:22:915 (1) - ^ , add clap at first note
00:29:824 (1) - silence the sliderslide
00:35:643 (1) - remove new combo
00:35:824 (2) - new combo
00:41:279 (1) - remove new combo
00:41:461 (2) - new combo
00:58:006 (1) - remove new combo
01:09:461 (3) - add clap at 1st & 3rd notes
01:20:733 (5) - new combo
01:21:279 (1) - remove new combo

~Crazy~
00:15:824 (4) - remove clap at middle note
00:17:643 (4) - remove clap at first note, add clap at middle note


+Star
yaya
[Normal]
00:37:461 (1,1,1,1,1,1) - 这一段完全不合拍。
作为一个normal,你的SV太快了,mapset不好。重新设置一下
[Open's diff]
UGLY
00:06:734 - there're 2 section lines .
00:06:907 - ^
01:54:177 - ^
01:56:358 - ^
02:02:176 - ^
02:02:903 - ^
02:34:357 - ^
02:39:083 - ^

there're 65535 objets unsnaped .
use aimod check it.
[Crazy]
UGLY
50%的note和slider与背景音不合,我觉得我可以不听音乐打这张。
这张排列好丑。好好修一下吧。

要在TAG里加上跟你合作map人的名字。每个难度都加。
MP3太长了要切掉一块。
.osb文件删掉。full upload.
Topic Starter
Clare
好的 謝謝YAYA~
Saten ruiko
來給星了-ˇ-
kioukiou
Could not find any problem.

star.
boy15174
我只是给星的= =
Soul-Eater_old
STAR~
a526412351
STAR~~~~
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