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Hiroki Kukuta - Fear of the Heavens

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James2250
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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Sunday, August 08, 2010 at 12:36:43 PM

Artist: Hiroki Kukuta
Title: Fear of the Heavens
Source: Secret of Mana
Tags: Opening Theme Squaresoft SquareEnix Seiken Densetsu 2 SNES
BPM: 156.7
Filesize: 3507kb
Play Time: 01:34
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (2.18 stars, 107 notes)
  2. Hard (4.28 stars, 159 notes)
  3. Insane (4.75 stars, 212 notes)
Download: Hiroki Kukuta - Fear of the Heavens
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Nice relaxing song from Secret of Mana.
Last edited by James2250 , edited 31 times in total.
Shinxyn
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did some IRC nazi modding~

Could still reduce on whistle >: >: >: oh well...
Doomsday
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Doomsday
Blue = design/minor issues. you do not have to change these if you don't want to
Orange = moderate issues. it would be best if you change these, but you may be able to get away with not changing it
Red = major issues. you need to change these

-Timing looks good
-You should put "Secret of Mana" in the tags

[EASY]

Lookin' good

[NORMAL+]

Seems fine. the bit at 01:16:106 could still be a bit much for a normal+ though. that seems more like something i'd see in a hard difficulty. We'll have to see what other modders of this think.

[HARD]

Personally I don't think a song like this needs a difficulty as hard as this, but thats just me being a purist. Don't mind me :P

01:13:042 (1,1) - Take one repeat off of both of these sliders? It'll be a little more consistent imo

Nice. Nothing majorly wrong. I'd be happy protobubbling this when it hits the SP limit (maybe after that bit in Normal+ is toned down a tad at least, but I might let that slide if you really don't want to tone it down)

Starred
Gens
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Gens
Pretty nice beatmap. [Easy] and [Normal] might be pushing out its difficulty to be called "Easy" and "Normal" respectively though.

Also, you forgot to disable the countdown in [Hard].

Other than that, it's quite nice. :)
GladiOol
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GladiOol
[General]
  1. BPM 156,70
  2. Offset 8.710
  3. Delete .osb from song folder.
  4. I think hitsound volume is a bit loud, maybe reduce it (?)
[Hard]
All fine~

[Normal+]
All fine~

[Easy]
00:31:876 (1,1) - I don't like this, 1/1 after a spinner a slider on the bottem of the screen. It's too hard for a easy difficulty.

Star
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James2250
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All fixed apart from:

Seems fine. the bit at 01:16:106 could still be a bit much for a normal+ though. that seems more like something i'd see in a hard difficulty. We'll have to see what other modders of this think.

I agree but I like that part :( if someone else complains or it "really" bothers you I will remove it

Also left the hitsound volume as is because I think its ok
yaya
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yaya
map is fine .
i think it'll be better if you silence the sliderslide , and less hitsound , and this is a pretty soft song , doesn't fit big jump very well .
James2250
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made the sliderslide silent, changed tick rate to 0.5, lowered audio on hitsounds, removed some hitsounds
Alace
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Alace
Agree with yaya
Also i think claps don`t fit the song at all
think about it

<placements>
try to make more curves to fit soft songs, there are too many lines in your maps XD

<Hard>
00:09:092 (2) - remove?
Mok
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Mok
Sorry if I'm modding now D:

Updated Mod's Info:
Mine are all suggestions. You're free to follow or not this mod :3
If I found a beat who must be added, i'll write it.
Remember to fix spacing after all modfiy :3

[General]
You better check what AImod (Ctrl + Shift + A) has to say on your difficulties.

[Easy]
00:29:769 (1) Remove New Combo + I think you better delete the repeat and do a single slider.
01:29:501 (2) Place it better.

[Normal +]
Seems fine, but look at AImod.

[Hard]
Seems fine too, but look at AImod.

And that's all for this map! hope you will ask me again for other maps-modding x3 Starred
Kytoxid
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[General]

Delete the extra .osb.

You could consider moving the last few timing sections another 1/4 earlier, in case the player hits it really early; there's no loss to doing that anyways.

[Easy]

00:28:237 (5,6) - Need to be shifted a grid right so that the zig-zag is evenly spaced.

Looks fine, although many sliders are kinda ugly because of imperfect symmetry; see if you can fix that.

[Normal+]

00:31:300 (2) - A grid right, to align with 1?
00:48:148 (1,2,3,4) - Kind of a spacing jump.

Neat.

[Hard]

00:13:687 (1,2,3,4,5,1) - Not symmetrical, and 4,5,1 is slightly crooked. Use horizontal flip?
00:25:174 (1,2,3) - A grid right for symmetry? (and even spacing, I guess)

Done my nazis, star~
James2250
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"will fix all of this eventually"

im actually going through the entire map and changing all the straight sliders to curved (well most of them) to fit song more

(also have annoying study group things over vacation so kinda busy)

EDIT:
ok I think all fixed....removed all the claps, did some spacing/align fixes, made alot more of the sliders curved.
eee
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eee
hmm, it's alright
I'll star
00:54:657 - add note here on [Easy] to make like other difficulties :P, definitely not kd worthy
James2250
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gave kudosu cuz you looked at map and I took your advice :P
HolyBoy
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HolyBoy
Easy

00:59:259 (3) - New Combo?
01:02:324 (3) - New Combo?
01:11:507 (2) - New Combo?
01:14:565 (2) - New Combo?


Normal

00:32:093 (1) - this spinner starts later than the in Easy. Easy starts at 00:31:904 (atm). why not make this spinner same as in Easy?

00:38:216 (1) - Remove New Combo?


Hard

00:32:078 (1) same as in Normal



Star! for an Awesome map :)...
And Kudosu Star! (so worth it)

(P.s. i liked the fast notes in Normal / Hard) ^_^
James2250
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HolyBoy wrote:

Easy

00:59:259 (3) - New Combo?
01:02:324 (3) - New Combo?
01:11:507 (2) - New Combo?
01:14:565 (2) - New Combo?

I didn't change combo's like this but I did change them

Normal

00:32:093 (1) - this spinner starts later than the in Easy. Easy starts at 00:31:904 (atm). why not make this spinner same as in Easy?

Made the spinner in easy start with the other 2

00:38:216 (1) - Remove New Combo?

ok

Hard

00:32:078 (1) same as in Normal

meh, its ok as it is
Nakata Yuji
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Nakata Yuji
Thanks for giving me feedback on my other map... Now for me to help you out :p
Easy:
No problems, I easily got an SS on first try.

Normal+:
01:19:545 (3,4) - I think this is illegal, you can't see which way either one is going.

Hard:
No true problems, but I have something for you to look at.
00:26:706 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - From 2 to 3 is a jump that is vastly easier than the others. I think you should make the jumps more consistent :3

Good map, I'm going to star it, forgive me for my crappy mod.
James2250
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[b]Normal+:
01:19:545 (3,4) - I think this is illegal, you can't see which way either one is going.

that might be true but I like it :P
I guess I will change it someone else complains
Gens
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New mp3 for you. :)

[attachment=0:2a4f3]Secret of Mana - Fear of the Heavens.mp3[/attachment:2a4f3]

New offset should be around 8,725.

Just fix that and I'll pubble.

EDIT: Downloaded 3 times what
anyways proto-bubbling
James2250
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This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Andrea
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Revived.
-Xero-
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[Easy]
Good one. Didn't find any issues, but it's kinda hard for an easy (my opinion). Maybe use lower distance snap or change the OD a bit?

[Normal+]
Couldn't find any issues here too. Maybe some nazi modding required but i dont nazi :P

[Hard]
01:01:564 (5-8) - 1 tick up
01:20:518 (8) - too close to 7


have a star =)
K-S-O
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K-S-O
Easy: Fine

Normal+:
00:43:951 (5) Might sound better with a whistle

Hard: Fine

I do not see anything wrong with this map. You get a star.
Dusty
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Dusty
The sliders are lopsided. Especially the shorter ones, those ones are obviously not-symmetrical even in play mode.

[Easy]
00:32:081 (1,1) - It seems ugly to me to have notes so soon after a spinner with low OD
00:39:356 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Strange-looking, the spacing is off
01:26:070 (2,3,4) - Symmetry? ._.

[Normal+]
00:48:163 (1,2,3,4) - Looks weird.

Well, anyways, for such a beautiful song the map looks very ugly, kind of bugs me.
arien666
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[Easy] (Sorry for too many nazi things :3...)
00:08:725 (1) - How about make this slider symmetrical via y axis? [ Check with Ctrl+H ]
00:14:851 (1) - [Suggestion] Maybe, I prefer to move tick on white line :3 [ Like http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/5413 ]
00:25:572 (5) - [Suggestion] How about move 1 grid down and right?
00:27:869 (4) - [Suggestion] How about move 1 grid left?
00:29:784 (7) - [Suggestion] How about make this slider symmetrical via y axis? [ Check with Ctrl+H ]
00:36:676 (5,7) - [Suggestion] How about move 1 grid up?
00:41:654 (7,8) - [Suggestion] How about move 1 grid left?
01:03:096 (4) - [Suggestion] How about move 1 grid right?
01:09:988 (1) - [Suggestion] How about make this slider symmetrical via y axis? [ Check with Ctrl+H ]
01:11:520 (1) - ^
01:13:051 (1) - [Suggestion] How about make this slider symmetrical via x axis? [ Check with Ctrl+J ]
01:14:583 (1) - ^
01:22:624 (2,3) - [Suggestion] How about move 1 grid left?
01:26:836 (3) - [Suggestion] How about move 1 grid right?
01:27:601 (4) - [Suggestion] How about move 1 grid left?

[Normal+]
00:21:743 (3) - [Suggestion] How about move 1 grid down?
00:23:657 (1) - Any special reason why start point is not on white line?
01:02:713 (4) - How about move 1 grid down?
01:32:962 (2) - How about move 2 grid left?

[Hard]
00:11:405 (1) - [Suggestion] How about move 1 grid down?
00:13:319 (5) - [Suggestion] How about move 1 grid left?
00:14:659 (2) - [Suggestion] How about move 1 grid right?
00:27:486 (3) - [Suggestion] How about move 2 grid down?
00:40:888 (1) - How about make this slider symmetrical via y axis? [ Check with Ctrl+H ]
00:44:334 (1) - How about make this slider symmetrical via x axis? [ Check with Ctrl+J ]
00:46:248 (2) - [Suggestion] How about move 2 grid right?
01:14:583 (1) - [Suggestion] How about move 1 grid up?
01:32:962 (2) - ^



:3...
Sorry for nazi modding :3...
Just choose what you decided to fix.
Anyway, good luck for this song XD

Here's my star :3
Leorda
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Leorda
Hi!

[Easy]
00:33:613 (1) - Ugly slider
00:34:379 (2) - ^
00:35:144 (3) - ^
01:22:241 (1,2,3,4,5) - Make a zigzag pattern, if 01:23:007 (3,4,5) is a triangle, it's confusing

[Normal+]
01:23:007 (3,4,5) - Make it like this?


[Hard]
00:26:721 (1) - Stack with 00:24:615 (2)?
00:56:970 (2) - Make symetriC?
01:01:564 (5,6,7,8) - Move 1 grid left?

Barely song
STAR
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orioncomet
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orioncomet
At all are fine to me and I like the rhythm like this one ~
starrr ~ go go jame~~ s
James2250
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all fixed now~
0_o
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0_o
* means I will need an explanation if you chose to reject it.
Easy
00:14:851 (1) - IT BURNS MY EYES ;_; This isn't perfect but maybe try something like this? It's freakin hard to get it symmetrical but this is closer than what you have now :P
SPOILER
*00:32:081 (1,1) - Notes right after spinners are really tough on the newbies (look at the "What Technique Do You Hate" thread, after-spinner notes are everywhere). Putting the spinner from 00:30:550 - 00:32:464 and adding a hitcircle at 00:33:230 would work well.
The overlapping notes throughout might be tricky on the newbs too, but eh.

Normal+
*00:48:163 (1,2,3) - REALLLY tricky spacing

Hard
00:31:315 (1) - I would recommend Ctrl-R-ing this, it looks and plays nicer imo

I'll repubble after your response.
James2250
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funny I was just looking at the "What Technique Do You Hate" thread today..didn't think about my map :P
*goes to fix stuff*
0_o
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0_o
OK, repubbled :)
NoHitter
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Normal+
01:28:367 (1) - Spacing

Hard
00:31:315 (1) - Maybe flip this horizontally then put back to position?
01:10:371 (3) - I would suggest centering this even if you have to turn of grid snap.

The symmetry of some bothers me, but no big problems.
Diasios
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Diasios
[Mod Infos]

Azure: Suggestions.
Blue: You should fix this.

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[Easy]

  • • You might want to consider bringing down the slider velocity a bit. Might be a bit too fast for beginners.
    • 00:30:550 (1) - Add a finish
    • 01:36:408 (1) - End this spinner here01:40:620 (white tick)
[Normal+]

  • • 00:32:081 (1) - Add a finish
    • 01:36:408 (1) - End this spinner here01:40:620 (white tick)
[Hard]

  • • 00:32:081 (1) - Add a finish
    • 01:36:408 (1) - End this spinner here01:40:620 (white tick)
James2250
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I think slider velocity is slow enough for beginners to figure out..everything else fixed
aRiskOfRain
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I can't find anything.
Sakura
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Red = Major issue, you should fix this
Purple = Issue, It's better if you fix this, and can sometimes pass if justified
Blue = Minor issue, you can ignore if you dont want to change
Green = Feedback / Comments
Black = Suggestion
[General]
+Squaresoft +SquareEnix to tags?

[Easy]
Lower slider speed? seems kind of fast for newbies

[Normal+] Why does everyone like theese + names on diffs? X_X this is a Hard srsly
No problems found

[Hard]
IMO this plays more like an insane
James2250
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I believe the Hard is fine being called Hard...as for the normal+ yes its very very close to a hard (especially at one point) but I think the + can justify it :D

(lowered the slider velocity on easy..)
NatsumeRin
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Red: You must fix this.
Blue: You'd better do sth with this imo.
Green: Just suggestions.

[General]
delete the .osb file and re-full submit
kiai...?

[Easy]
i think the notes are too far from each other..... it's an [Easy]
00:29:784 (7) - new combo?
00:30:550 (1) - end 1/1 later.
00:54:672 (8) - break after this is too short, remove plz.
01:03:862 (1,1) - ...a jump in [Easy]?
01:05:393 (1,1) - ...another?

[Normal+]
... Normal++
00:54:672 (2) - break after this is too short, remove plz.
01:29:516 (1) - remove new combo.
01:32:196 (1) - ^
map is fine... but it's harder than a normal+ imo

[Hard]
00:44:334 (1) - remove new combo.
01:24:921 (1) - remove whistle on the slider.
01:34:493 (1) - if you want to silence the spinner, make the green timing section on 01:34:685
James2250
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NatsumeRin wrote:

Red: You must fix this.
Blue: You'd better do sth with this imo.
Green: Just suggestions.

[General]
delete the .osb file and re-full submit there is no osb file that I see
kiai...? I don't think kiai fits with this song really

[Easy]
i think the notes are too far from each other..... it's an [Easy] I think the song is slow enough that people can deal with it
00:29:784 (7) - new combo? its fine as is
00:30:550 (1) - end 1/1 later. no, the note would be too close to the end of the spinner for an easy then
00:54:672 (8) - break after this is too short, remove plz. its still allowed there so shouldn't be a problem
01:03:862 (1,1) - ...a jump in [Easy]?
01:05:393 (1,1) - ...another? these jumps really aren't that bad and can make beginners improve their mouse movement

[Normal+]
... Normal++
00:54:672 (2) - break after this is too short, remove plz. *same as easy*
01:29:516 (1) - remove new combo. ok
01:32:196 (1) - ^ ^
map is fine... but it's harder than a normal+ imo

[Hard]
00:44:334 (1) - remove new combo. ok
01:24:921 (1) - remove whistle on the slider. ok
01:34:493 (1) - if you want to silence the spinner, make the green timing section on 01:34:685
only want to silence the end of it

Renamed Normal+ to Hard and Hard to Insane so people can get over the Normal+ being too hard thing
Kurai
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This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
James2250
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fixed the jumps in easy
Eirene
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Eirene
-> maybe I'm the only player having this issue, but when there are no custom colours, there are 2 "reds" ... and it's a little strange
so you may set custom colours *.*

[Insane] :
00:31:315 (1) - why not a "perfect" symetry ?
00:32:081 (1) - start on the previous red tick ?

[Hard] :
00:12:936 (3) - in the easy diff, you have a whistle here ... it sounds better with this whistle
00:32:081 (1) - same thing than the Insane ...

that's all :3
good music, STAR
Shinxyn
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Shinxyn
it sounds much nicer (yay its not so loud anymore xD)

Easy- ehh... distance snap.. is 1.2? =/ would prefer something lower for Easy (as already mentioned)
or just be lazy and increase circle size so they look bigger and slower together... would prefer lighter spacing though
00:27:869 (4,5,6) - looks kinda oddly shaped... ah, cuz (4) isn't "straight"... make it a flip of 3? (left a tick)
00:30:550 (1) - don't like where this ends, just doesn't sound like it belongs, maybe silent out the end or extend to 00:33:230? (then figure how what to do with the next few notes xD)
01:16:880 (3) - make this equally apart from (1)? (or move (1) closer~)
Next time, use a larger grid snap for the easier diff, less arrangement nazi if you do it right ~
There are some complexities for Easy..

Hard- hey, I can hard rock this ^^~
00:24:040 (2) - instead of grid snapping, just place a new note that should stack better under the slider :x (don't forget your whistle~!)
Meh, its fair.

Insane-
=| fast slider speed for high spacing, oh well, how else might you make this song an Insane... right..?
You don't like jumps, but you're fine with high spacing, phooey >_> oh well
Some of the notes on the faster parts could be arranged a bit more neatly (01:01:181 (3) to 01:01:756 (6) and 01:20:326 (7) to 01:22:049 (8)) no big deal though..

I refused to make a hitsound mod, since the whistles are quite enough as they are, though I did think there were places there could've been a whistle, didn't need it

I don't like heavy overall spacing ;-; ohwellnotmyproblemitsfine
Lunah_old
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Hi ^^

Hard
00:43:568 (3,5) - hitsound whistle (?)
00:46:631 (4) - Add a beat here *
*
SPOILER

Insane
00:14:851 (3) - New combo here (?)

Okay starrr*
DJPop
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DJPop
Offset is a bit early imo, try 8,730

~Normal~
00:14:851 (1) - try to make it symmetry
01:23:772 (5) - move left 1 grid (Lv3)

~Hard~
Fine.

~Insane~
Fine.


+Star
Crimmi
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Crimmi
Modding, CrimmiStyle!

[Insane]
00:31:077 (1) Align [Ignore if you need to]

that's all.... =]

star*
Lybydose
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Revived
IceBeam
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IceBeam
Hello.

[Easy]
00:11:410 (1) - Adding a whistle in the end of a slider?
00:42:424 (1) - Well,if you adding whistles after each 3 white ticks,probably you should add it at the start of this slider?
00:54:677 (8) - Adding a whistle?

[Hardl]
00:19:068 (3) - Allign better?
00:42:424 (1) - Adding a whistle?
00:43:956 (5) - ^
01:23:777 (5) - ^
01:26:075 (2,3,4,5) - You may add whistles here.

[Insane]
Well,fine,but I want some more hitsounds as well.

Good luck,star~
Kecco
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Kecco
•Insane•
01:34:498 (1) - Silence this spinner adding a timing section Audio 0 at the begin of the slider instead of at the ending.

•Hard•
00:33:618 (1) - Make this slider closer to the grid-centre.
01:34:498 (1) - Silence this spinner adding a timing section Audio 0 at the begin of the slider instead of at the ending.

•Normal•
00:29:789 (7) - Ehi, I know you want to get style, but it's too far. Distance error.
00:35:915 (5) - New combo?
01:34:498 (1) - Silence this spinner adding a timing section Audio 0 at the begin of the slider instead of at the ending.

Star~
James2250
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James2250
disagree with 00:29:789 (7) - Ehi, I know you want to get style, but it's too far. Distance error.

its a jump and its not a very hard one even for an easy
*all else fixed*
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