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did i reach my physical limit where improvement is reaslistically impossible

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Slowpoke1135
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Joined February 2024
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Slowpoke1135
i sightread 17 whole charts and didnt really improve so i think this means im never improving again and im stuck in an indefinite plateu. idk man just playing the game doesnt work, sightreading a huge amount of charts didnt wrok, im basically cooked

ill try keep the complaining down from now on but i want it clear if im never impropving again as id rather just know than not know
Stickman92
372 posts
Joined May 2015
Stickman92
No, no limit reached. You can still improve. 70% the battle is mindset, the 30% is gettin in solid practice. Also, 17 charts aint alot. I'd say alot is closer to 100+.

I reckon u can be a 3 digit given enough time and practice. Also your play history kinda low past two months.Im guessing it just cause u playin on interlude like u said on ur profile. If not, then u've just gotta play more.

Sometimes a lack of progress is some unknown bad habits you've built up and reinforced. Example from me below
E.g. I was spamming through everything and getting terrible acc on osumania hence and my progress stalled(85-94% acc on average). But when I played o2jam, I didn't do stupid things like that so I made improvement on it. When I realized how bad my acc was, I became so obsessed with acc that progress stalled again on mania because I never learnt anything new. I eventually found a good balance between pushing myself to raise skill ceiling and improving acc&consistency to consolidate my foundational skills.

Sometimes what can seem like a lack of progress is just practice methods that gotta be improved. Especially important for learning an instrument. Example below.
Learning a new piece of music by restarting back to the beginning every time u make a mistake is a terrible method that some beginners do. It just reinforces the same mistakes, and you get good at the beginnings but not the middle and end sections. You're meant to break the music into smaller digestible chunks and combine em into larger chunks and learn it that way. Theres also slow practice, hands seperate, Long-short, eyes closed, lots of repetition, etc.

Gist of it is, what can feel like a lack of talent making it impossible to improve for a pianist can just be practice methods that gotta be improved.
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Slowpoke1135
889 posts
Joined February 2024
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Slowpoke1135
its 6k, 17 charts sightread is a basically the super mega sightread bonanza of doom amd new experiences. if i try do 50 sightreads ill prob be uprating shit i can stable 99% to something i can barely 90%. i got a super crazy skillboost last timewhen i sightread aroumd 15 charts like 3 mknthd ago

for interlude im just improving super slowly. in the past months i went from barely A ranking [20]s to 93%ing [20]s which is new as usually in a month i go from barely physically handming a song to comfortable S rank so just 93% is weird
Ska
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Joined June 2017
Ska
improvement is not linear, the better you get the longer it'll take to climb higher, Stickman92 already gave good enough insight, you should stop dismissing things because "it's 6k", that's irrelevant, you're not the first person to play 6k nor is it intrinsically different to improving in other keymodes, there's nothing special about it that makes the advice people give you less valuable/effective

either way, most of it is your mentality, instead of giving up what one is supposed to do when learning a skill and encountering resistance is to stand back and be self critical, what am I doing that doesn't work, what should I work on and what can I try to change in my routine, try things until you start to see progress and if you encounter resistance again, go back to the writing board. if you're not capable of doing that yourself then don't dismiss when other people try to help
Slowpoke1135
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Joined February 2024
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Slowpoke1135

Ska wrote:

improvement is not linear, the better you get the longer it'll take to climb higher, Stickman92 already gave good enough insight, you should stop dismissing things because "it's 6k", that's irrelevant, you're not the first person to play 6k nor is it intrinsically different to improving in other keymodes, there's nothing special about it that makes the advice people give you less valuable/effective

either way, most of it is your mentality, instead of giving up what one is supposed to do when learning a skill and encountering resistance is to stand back and be self critical, what am I doing that doesn't work, what should I work on and what can I try to change in my routine, try things until you start to see progress and if you encounter resistance again, go back to the writing board. if you're not capable of doing that yourself then don't dismiss when other people try to help
i wasnt dismissing what stickman said for improvement i just mentioned its 6k because my ass is NOT getting 3 digit with 6k. to be 3 digit with pure 6k youd probably require 1 digit player skill and insane acc.

idek what to change about a session, since i think theres not much to even change. i warmup for like 30min - 45min and then soed another 45min - 1h pushing and usually get 10 - 15 push maps in. for goals i grind stuff i A rank and grind until a 96% on stable. map pool is small so i usually play same stuff alot but it worked before so idk
Stickman92
372 posts
Joined May 2015
Stickman92
oh yeah, I forgot that 6k aint good for pp. I moreso meant skill level. Wasnt thinkin bout PP when I said that.

Anyhow if there aint much charts for 6k, then I'd take advantage of using mods like Random, HardRock, Doubletime/RateChangers, Half Time, and even Hidden/Lanecover. Dunno if u already do that.

Tho I'd normally say slowed improvement is still improvement. If you've got a gut feeling that you know u can do better than that, then idk. It somethin for u to figure out why thats the case. Good luck with it.

Also, the bit Ska said
"instead of giving up what one is supposed to do when learning a skill and encountering resistance is to stand back and be self critical, what am I doing that doesn't work, what should I work on and what can I try to change in my routine, try things until you start to see progress and if you encounter resistance again, go back to the writing board."
It less about the session structure and moreso about the approach to practice. Its hard to explain properly, I can't dissect my brain and show it to you.

Players with good intuition tend to do it without thinkin. If not good intuition, then its about trouble shooting, problem solving, critical thinking, apply the scientific method a lil bit, etc, whatever it called. Find a problem or weakness, Diagnose the issue, then develop a strategy to fix it. Whether its osumania, piano, tennis, bodybuilding, baseball, etc. The fundamentals of it are all the same

In the example about bad habits I gave
Problem is pisspoor acc and stalled progress -> Diagnosis is too much spamming -> strategy I develop is do alot of acc. New problem became stalled improvement -> diagnosis says too much acc + no exposure to new patterns -> Strategy is to find a balance between developing acc and pushing limits.
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