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I seem to be stuck on 2 star maps

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Unknown X 69
I know that I am new and all and absolutely suck at the game but i feel like I am not improving since 2-3 days at all (I've only begun playing since 5 days). Maybe it's because i am not playing newer maps, so maybe I would like to get a few maps for starters, will update/comment under this forum if that doesn't solve my problem.

So if anyone has maps which I can practice, or some place where I can download exactly what I want, then please do share!
yellowbadbeast
At that level, most maps are pretty much identical, so it doesn't really matter what you play, as long as you're not just straight up memorizing the map and it's not too way hard for you.

Check out the beatmap listing for more maps: beatmapsets?m=0&q=star%3E2%20star%3C3

It's normal for your progression to occasionally stagnate, since improvement is far from linear. It usually passes given enough time, though.
Topic Starter
Unknown X 69

yellowbadbeast wrote:

At that level, most maps are pretty much identical, so it doesn't really matter what you play, as long as you're not just straight up memorizing the map and it's not too way hard for you.

Check out the beatmap listing for more maps: beatmapsets?m=0&q=star%3E2%20star%3C3

It's normal for your progression to occasionally stagnate, since improvement is far from linear. It usually passes given enough time, though.
I see, I was not aware that most maps are identical at this level, well now that you say that, it does seem so as if there are only a few types of maps and they are almost identical at this level. And of course, although in the start I thought of memorizing the maps, I quickly gave up on that 4 years ago, but did not play much since then, either ways my memory is really bad lol.

Thanks for clarifying, I'll be back once I am able to pass 3 star maps!

edit- 73 minutes after this post, i successfully completed my first 3 star map, although it was just a 30 second map and i still performed pretty badly [76.84 acc, 22x combo (max is 139x)]
Mugenq
you can definitely memorize stuff, its how you practice readint skillcap in the first place
right now you just need to get out of the 3 star range. That's your goal. also, expect to take a couple weeks to even touch 4 stars
Topic Starter
Unknown X 69
weeks? well i guess it'll take me months to touch 4 stars lmao. It's fine, I did improve a little, I cleared a few 3 star maps, I still cant play them well but I'm still playing, hopefully I can play for much longer and not quit in just a few weeks
Mugenq
No, progress is pretty fast on 1-5 stars, you will be able to play most and read most 5 stars within 3 months

as long as you do your homework:warmup properly every session, get a couple of 97%, a couple of B ranks you should be fine
Topic Starter
Unknown X 69

Mugenq wrote:

No, progress is pretty fast on 1-5 stars, you will be able to play most and read most 5 stars within 3 months

as long as you do your homework:warmup properly every session, get a couple of 97%, a couple of B ranks you should be fine
I have a feeling that this would be really important info, thanks! Well I guess that I was somewhat following this without knowing, but I will stick to it now.
yellowbadbeast

Mugenq wrote:

you can definitely memorize stuff, its how you practice readint skillcap in the first place
No? You practice skillcap by playing more skillcap. If you rely on memorizing the map to play, you're just learning to play that specific map, not harder maps in general.
never-FC
dont worry i have played 280h and can barely fc 4 stars
Mugenq

yellowbadbeast wrote:

Mugenq wrote:

you can definitely memorize stuff, its how you practice readint skillcap in the first place
No? You practice skillcap by playing more skillcap. If you rely on memorizing the map to play, you're just learning to play that specific map, not harder maps in general.
You have never seen a drummer memorize a certain BPM before playing that bpm in songs. Or someone memorizing a certain pattern to then apply that to other maps

You can 100% memorize and incorporate that into skillpushing. That's the entire purpose of half time, to memorize a hard pattern and then learn that TYPE of pattern on normal speed
Voidedosu

Mugenq wrote:

yellowbadbeast wrote:

Mugenq wrote:

you can definitely memorize stuff, its how you practice readint skillcap in the first place
No? You practice skillcap by playing more skillcap. If you rely on memorizing the map to play, you're just learning to play that specific map, not harder maps in general.
You have never seen a drummer memorize a certain BPM before playing that bpm in songs. Or someone memorizing a certain pattern to then apply that to other maps

You can 100% memorize and incorporate that into skillpushing. That's the entire purpose of half time, to memorize a hard pattern and then learn that TYPE of pattern on normal speed
Which doesn't help you when a harder version of that pattern is spaced one full circle length away than normal, or is off from "standard".

It also doesn't account for the speed that you have to play the pattern at, especially when it comes to jumps. It's a little bit better in Lazer because you can modify the DT timing, but if you're still on Stable you need something like Osu!trainer for that.

HT works as a gimmick or for practicing for a certain map, but as a trainer for skills in general it is not practical at all. You are far better served playing at normal speed and learning the speed/stamina/etc. that way, and using HT if there's some specific part you aren't quite understanding.
Mugenq
No, HT definitely helps by letting you olay hard maps slower. Which: tadaa, includes full screen aim.

If you consider HT a gimmick, might aswell consider DT a gimmick. They are both sides of the same coon.


Edit: I made a collection with 1-2 minute maps at 2-3.99 star range. I think you could use this.
yellowbadbeast

Mugenq wrote:

You have never seen a drummer memorize a certain BPM before playing that bpm in songs. Or someone memorizing a certain pattern to then apply that to other maps
The difference is, osu isn't an instrument, and memorization isn't a key part of the game (outside of some niche reading stuff). I feel that kind of pattern recognition is too specific to be useful. What if the pattern was rotated 45 degrees, or mirrored? What you're essentially doing is creating a lookup table of every pattern you've ever seen, which I argue is less efficient than just learning to [sight]read in general.
Mugenq

yellowbadbeast wrote:

Mugenq wrote:

You have never seen a drummer memorize a certain BPM before playing that bpm in songs. Or someone memorizing a certain pattern to then apply that to other maps
The difference is, osu isn't an instrument, and memorization isn't a key part of the game (outside of some niche reading stuff). I feel that kind of pattern recognition is too specific to be useful. What if the pattern was rotated 45 degrees, or mirrored? What you're essentially doing is creating a lookup table of every pattern you've ever seen, which I argue is less efficient than just learning to [sight]read in general.
Osu is most definitely an instrument. And memorization is a key part of a specific play-set. Multiple people have this experience of memorizing a single pattern in a single map, and then being able to play so many other maps because they have drilled that specific muscle memory to perfection. Or reading, too. Being able to read low AR HD stacks becomes easier if you memorize simpler and specific patterns, because they also repeat in other patterns.

So not only does it apply to other maps, even if that pattern has a different combo order or orientation or shape, that also implies that mirror mod or barrel roll or HR will not make a difference: your muscle memory WILL STILL apply to that combo pattern, as long as you drilled it enough.
Voidedosu

Mugenq wrote:

No, HT definitely helps by letting you olay hard maps slower. Which: tadaa, includes full screen aim.

If you consider HT a gimmick, might aswell consider DT a gimmick. They are both sides of the same coon.


Edit: I made a collection with 1-2 minute maps at 2-3.99 star range. I think you could use this.
Technically, yes. All mods are gimmicks, but some just happen to be "better" than others. (That's why NM is best)

In any case, I just think in general that playing easier maps at full speed is going to do better than playing harder maps at HT, for basically the same reasons why I would always tell players who are currently only capable of competently playing 2* maps to never touch 4*+ maps for the purposes of improvement.
HydroManic
I think you should just play more, you wont be mrekk overnight, improvement takes alot of effort

Try this map beatmapsets/1031503#osu/2156974

Also try playing longer maps like this one beatmapsets/2279701#osu/4866595

It took me around (some gaps) 8 years to reach my ranking currently

Osu isnt just a game, its a lifestyle
Topic Starter
Unknown X 69

HydroManic wrote:

I think you should just play more, you wont be mrekk overnight, improvement takes alot of effort

Try this map beatmapsets/1031503#osu/2156974

Also try playing longer maps like this one beatmapsets/2279701#osu/4866595

It took me around (some gaps) 8 years to reach my ranking currently

Osu isnt just a game, its a lifestyle
Yeah, I have improved a lot since the time I posted this, I can pass some of the low 3 star maps now, although I am getting less than 90% accuracy almost always, so I have started to work on that more. Thanks for some more maps, I really get bored of my maps every now and then, new maps are always appreciated!
blueGuns100

never-FC wrote:

dont worry i have played 280h and can barely fc 4 stars
Thank you for telling me that , i was pulling my hair off when i couldn't do high 3* maps in 1 month. I even thought that sexy tablet covers are the only way to improve.
Voidedosu

blueGuns100 wrote:

never-FC wrote:

dont worry i have played 280h and can barely fc 4 stars
Thank you for telling me that , i was pulling my hair off when i couldn't do high 3* maps in 1 month. I even thought that sexy tablet covers are the only way to improve.
Dude, why are you so upset about that? Who, exactly, are you trying to impress so much that you needed to be able to do 4*'s in a month? Serious question.

Not everyone is going to reach that level in a month, either IRL or IGT, and you shouldn't be upset if you aren't one of them. Just relax, enjoy game, and improve at your own pace.
iwuvkittens
i can pass high 3 star maps with some misses and high acc but i miss constantly
Voidedosu

iwuvkittens wrote:

i can pass high 3 star maps with some misses and high acc but i miss constantly
That's a very big indication that those high 3* maps are too hard for you in some fashion--patterns are too difficult, speed is too much, etc.

You would probably do well to drop down about .2-.4*, as that would bring you closer to what is just outside your comfort zone. I'd personally start at the higher end of that range so you end up at about 3.4-3.5*, and see how it feels from there.
iwuvkittens
i cant play anything below 8ar and 160+bpm its too slow
Mugenq

iwuvkittens wrote:

i cant play anything below 8ar and 160+bpm its too slow
shred AR8 until you can read it
shred alt maps until you can play 160
iwuvkittens
i can alrwady read ar 8 bruh and 160+bpm
Mugenq

iwuvkittens wrote:

i can alrwady read ar 8 bruh and 160+bpm
sure brother
iwuvkittens
im telling the truth!?!?!?!!!! herers proof scores/5503642676
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