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[resolved] [osu!stable] Double Tapping Issue (with multiple keyboards)

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Panzer4OSU
Problem details:

I have an issue when I'm playing that theres a small chance (Like 5-10%) that my keyboard will register my single tap as a double tap and it causes me to fail a lot when two circles are on top of each other. This has happened with two of my mechanical keyboards and my sayo device. I will link a video below so you can see that i am only single tapping


Video or screenshot showing the problem:

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/9tp7sfuxq9jyhuvn7rz3w/DoubleTapObservation.mov?rlkey=q3md14m85z722628uh9r053e4&st=n722tycd&dl=0

https://drive.google.com/file/d/11pzLChyZmgD_H1J8tBEdrIAfQSRbB39c/view?usp=sharing

(Apologies for the bad camera quality, also its delayed like half a second for some reason)


osu! version: Cutting Edge 20240826.2


EDIT:

I found the issue. It turns out that My fingers were actually sliding too close to each other and clicking both keys at the same time. My way of solving this is by changingg my keys to be on two different rows instead of next to each other. So instead of Z and X, I am now using W and D. This should eliminate the issue since the keys would not be able to be pressed at the same time


EDIT 2:

Another way I found to fix this issue is by rotating my keyboard. Since my right finger was the one that overlapped and pressed both keys, i rotated the left side of my keyboard up (if your left finger overlaps, push the right side of your keyboard up). So far this is a better fix for me since having keys on different rows made it harder to stream and finger control became harder


EDIT 3:

It turns out that I am still having this issue. I decided to use the program "Rewind" to show my replays and when I am "clicking" the keys

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/bgx0dkkmzzg6ne93l8tu1/image_2024-09-03_144713979.png?rlkey=yc0rtrhe9nuc7biw0bk4goxmc&st=4mqvq498&dl=0

In this image, the orange, gray, and green dots show when the timing window is and when I am holding down on the keys. The orange bar is my left key [Z], the green bar is my right key [x], and the gray bar is the timing window for a circle. This circle was standalone and was not in a burst or stream. As you can see, I clicked down on my left key but my right key was also pressed down right after the circle occurred. Below I will link more screenshots of this happening on the exact same playthrough of the map on both sliders and circles

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/snse9kfixkbvzkpk959o5/AE06FzOIuLauUNiYPMpYI1g?rlkey=qv6i0kfy4z1rr9m4lowpzysiv&st=j5xxvgim&dl=0

As mentioned before, this happens on MULTIPLE KEYBOARDS. I have deleted and reinstalled OSU several times, yet this only happens on OSU. It has happened on Stable and Cutting Edge but I have no tried Lazer yet (I will try it after this edit and update the post accordingly).


EDIT 4:

This also happens on the Lazer and Beta releases of OSU. I have made a tech support post on the OSU Discord and am currently discussing this issue


Edit 5 (Final edit, issue solved):

I finally figured out how the issue was happening. It was key ghosting, and it wasnt my finger sliding over and hitting both keys. But it turns out that when I wanted to click just one key, both of my fingers would push down and both keys would press, but the second key press was so subtle it only lasted for a few frames. Listed below is a handcam video of this issue

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/w3k9skhi1wkb0nuoy4uqp/RPReplay_Final1725400643.mov?rlkey=gouyg76qlu98ev5ilj7hznnu3&st=qi0u9o01&dl=0

I fixed this issue (finally) but switching to tapping with my index and ring finger, as opposed to my ring and middle finger. So far this issue has almost ceased to exist, save for a few instances here and there thought I just have to get used to the new tapping style first
TOM SOD
Thank you for taking the time and effort to solve the issue. I recently had this issue for a few days, and after searching, I thought it was a software issue. I kept searching and found your post. I tried your solution by tapping with my index and ring fingers, and it works. Now I have to get used to a new tapping style, and I wish you the best in getting used to your new tapping style. 😄
Topic Starter
Panzer4OSU
Hey thats great to hear!!! Im glad my rambling could help someone XD I was hoping that if I kept posting here that everything someone would have hte same issue. It might take a week or two to get used to the tapping style but so far its actually been pretty fun for me! Though my fingers do hurt a lot. I wish you luck as well!!
Topic Starter
Panzer4OSU
Still having this issue! Two new keyboards as well: Madlions MAD60HE and Madlions MAD68Pro. Both keyboards have the same double tap issue, however for some reason it ONLY works whilst I'm playing an actual map. If I go into editor and try to repelicate the issue, nothing. It doesn't double tap a single time. I have tried tapping light, hard, streams, etc in editor and it doesn't happen. I was playing heater abnormal and there's overelapped circles in it, and that's mainly what I double tap on

Edit: I have also tried changing my keyboard chatter to no avail. I am currently trying a membrane keyboard once again to see if this fixes the issue
fach
I had this issue with my sayo and ended up getting it resolved after a few days. It started with it only happening a couple of times over the course of a song then started to progressively get worse overtime. I did the whole factory recovery option in the actual sayo device settings multiple times and at first it worked but it would eventually start double tapping again. I ended up actually putting my sayo device in rice because I thought there couldve been moisture in it but that didnt end up working lmao. If youre still using your sayo and havent updated the hardware through the website driver, id highly recommend doing that. if that still doesnt work, try to set different actuation points in your keys - doesnt have to be by much, just a 1 or 2 points.
Topic Starter
Panzer4OSU
I dont use the sayodevice anymore, i had a lot of issues with that itself. The drivers wouldn't download and the device just stopped working so I just swapped to a normal keyboard, which is where I continue to have the double tap issues
TOM SOD
I have a dumb idea maybe try to use a high actuation force switch. What I noticed when I played is that sometimes I tap weirdly and cause it to double tap, and when I tap fast and light, it double tap randomly with RT but for a normal switch idk it rarely double tap in my case, I probably have some sort of skill issue. 😭😭😭
Topic Starter
Panzer4OSU
Using a high actuation actually seemed to help a lot, however it made streaming a bit harder since I try to tap lightly, and having a high actuation would make me have to tap harder, but it’s actually definitely a great idea and works pretty well
TOM SOD
That’s nice to hear, perhaps you accidentally double tap very lightly without even feeling it (idk).

Edit: Make it shorter because I yap too much
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