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Maddestmonkey
4 posts
Joined March 2017
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Maddestmonkey
Hello!

I was playing this beatmap: https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/677104#osu/1432041 (sorry, I'm not sure how linking works)

I took a look at the leaderboard and noticed that there are just two HDHR scores, and the rest of the modded scores are just HD or HR, then nomod onwards.

I'm really confused as to why the leaderboard is like this. It strikes me as a map that most professionals could do with mods, but the majority of the top scores on this map are nomod. What exactly makes this map so hard? I'm no expert nor am I super skilled, I just genuinely can't comprehend why this might be the case (I would have never imagined myself actually taking the effort to go out of my way to make an osu! forum post, yet here I am; this is how confused I am).

Is it because of the map length? - Most professionals have a lot of stamina don't they?
Is it because of the bpm? - Isn't 216 a standard BPM streaming skill?
Consistency? Nerves? Low AR???

Any explanations/analyses of the map's contents would be greatly appreciated!

Thank you!
Louis Marble
89 posts
Joined September 2017
Louis Marble
216bpm streams consistency + some aim. Of course the map itself is already hard on nomod.

I think you have way too high expectations of top players.
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Indomi-chan
1,370 posts
Joined July 2022
Indomi-chan
yep this is a consistency map, nomod is hard already even or hr (some players like lifeline and laissez faire passed this on DT)
anaxii
15,000 posts
Joined December 2022
anaxii

Indomi-chan wrote:

yep this is a consistency map, nomod is hard already even or hr (some players like lifeline and laissez faire passed this on DT)
It's 11.39 stars with DT btw
Voidedosu
3,105 posts
Joined June 2016
Voidedosu
Who in their right mind who isn't a 2-digit plays a 6.12* map with DT? (and even Lassiez is an outlier among them as the only person I know who even tries anything akin to rolling in NEStris or rake-strumming in GH).

Nevermind what kind of map it's supposed to be that would be more suited for NM/HR/HD play over DT.

Louis Marble has it right: You're way overestimating the skills of top players.
DM FOR MUTUAL
606 posts
Joined March 2021
DM FOR MUTUAL
The leaderboard looks typical to me.

I took a look at the map and I don't think the map is necessarily uniquely hard, just that no-one cares enough to set scores on it.

If for some reason every top player started playing this map and became super competitive on it then the leaderboard would definitely start having more hdhr scores.

Even then, it's not like the leaderboard would immediately fill up with them, this is still a 6 minute long 7 star map with hdhr on top of it which is worth 700pp, not exactly the easiest thing to fc

I feel like the only 7 star maps that have lots of hdhr scores are either super popular or giga farm
Voidedosu
3,105 posts
Joined June 2016
Voidedosu

DM FOR MUTUAL wrote:

The leaderboard looks typical to me.

I took a look at the map and I don't think the map is necessarily uniquely hard, just that no-one cares enough to set scores on it.

If for some reason every top player started playing this map and became super competitive on it then the leaderboard would definitely start having more hdhr scores.

Even then, it's not like the leaderboard would immediately fill up with them, this is still a 6 minute long 7 star map with hdhr on top of it which is worth 700pp, not exactly the easiest thing to fc

I feel like the only 7 star maps that have lots of hdhr scores are either super popular or giga farm
At that level that's the only way they're going to have a lot of scores. Giga-farm, super popular for non-osu reasons, or super popular because an elite player/mapper hyped it up.
anaxii
15,000 posts
Joined December 2022
anaxii

Voidedosu wrote:

DM FOR MUTUAL wrote:

The leaderboard looks typical to me.

I took a look at the map and I don't think the map is necessarily uniquely hard, just that no-one cares enough to set scores on it.

If for some reason every top player started playing this map and became super competitive on it then the leaderboard would definitely start having more hdhr scores.

Even then, it's not like the leaderboard would immediately fill up with them, this is still a 6 minute long 7 star map with hdhr on top of it which is worth 700pp, not exactly the easiest thing to fc

I feel like the only 7 star maps that have lots of hdhr scores are either super popular or giga farm
At that level that's the only way they're going to have a lot of scores. Giga-farm, super popular for non-osu reasons, or super popular because an elite player/mapper hyped it up.
Or hyped up because top players have played that map
Naiad
623 posts
Joined May 2019
Naiad

Maddestmonkey wrote:

Is it because of the map length? - Most professionals have a lot of stamina don't they?
Is it because of the bpm? - Isn't 216 a standard BPM streaming skill?
Consistency? Nerves? Low AR???

Any explanations/analyses of the map's contents would be greatly appreciated!
It's a 700 pp map with HR. The raw mechanical requirement is not low, and there is a consistency element as well - it's a hard map to FC. But also, there are only 500k plays. If top players invested more time into this map I'm sure there would be more.
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