I'm looking for decent maps that could help with my improvement, because recently I've been in a weird place with my gameplay where I can never FC anything, I've been playing 4*-4.5* knowing full well I can get good passes with decent acc but it's never FC, it's very inconsistent, even though the sections I'll choke at aren't particularily hard for me.

I know the answer is to play more but I've been doing casual 20-30m~ sessions everyday and it's extremely demotivating to not be able to get any good results.
I already have some maps that worked for me in improving different aspects of my game (and that for some reason I can never FC) and I feel like looking for newer maps would be refreshing.

I've already been looking for quite a while but to no avail that so if anyone has any suggestions in terms of maps or any tips that are quite useful, that would make my day!
Thanks in advance!

if your goal is improvement you should go down in difficulty a bit if you cant FC anything at all in the range you're playing. just keep playing easier maps until you find a range where you can FC and get good accuracy.

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because u are supposed to play 3 star maps right now dont please skip at 4.

Why do you miss?

Happy Satoko wrote:

You should really play 1-2 hours to improve, to be honest. As far as maps, download and play as many maps as possible. It might be a good idea to go back down to 2 or 3 star.

Yeah, but only 98+ fc's end up giving me more ranks though and most 3 star maps for me are too slow and boring.
I care about improvement but I also want to have fun improving.

kujubuo wrote:

because u are supposed to play 3 star maps right now dont please skip at 4.

I can confidently do 4 star maps though? it's just that I end up doing dumb mistakes which demotivate me to play more, I only really want new good maps so I get a new refreshing experience.

Simon12 wrote:

Why do you miss?

random chokes on sections that aren't even hard for me that just makes me want to play less and less, feels like I'm plateau-ing alot with skill but I guess the only answer is just play more.

badrooo wrote:

random chokes on sections that aren't even hard for me that just makes me want to play less and less, feels like I'm plateau-ing alot with skill but I guess the only answer is just play more.

Are you sure those chokes are random? Be honest lol.
If you can't tell why you've missed on something it either means you didn't pay attention or didn't read it correctly.

badrooo wrote:

Happy Satoko wrote:

You should really play 1-2 hours to improve, to be honest. As far as maps, download and play as many maps as possible. It might be a good idea to go back down to 2 or 3 star.

Yeah, but only 98+ fc's end up giving me more ranks though and most 3 star maps for me are too slow and boring.
I care about improvement but I also want to have fun improving.

kujubuo wrote:

because u are supposed to play 3 star maps right now dont please skip at 4.

I can confidently do 4 star maps though? it's just that I end up doing dumb mistakes which demotivate me to play more, I only really want new good maps so I get a new refreshing experience.

Simon12 wrote:

Why do you miss?

random chokes on sections that aren't even hard for me that just makes me want to play less and less, feels like I'm plateau-ing alot with skill but I guess the only answer is just play more.

You are a 700K player, with only 12 of your top 55 plays being over 95%, and every single map is some short 1-minute or minute-and-a-half spammable map (probably spammable jump maps, I don't have those types memorized).

You are "plateau-ing" because you're not able to spam-retry maps and get something "good" out of it (and really, a majority of B-ranks on even [Hard] maps is not "good"), while bad playing habits from using mods and playing beyond your skill level is inhibiting your actual growth.

"But I'm pretty confi--" No, you just think you're confident because you managed to spam your way through a 4* 30-second map and somehow eked out a 90% score. You can certainly believe that's good for you all you want, but that's not going to impress anyone if you were wanting that, and it's not going to make you any better to keep going for that. All these short maps are doing is making you spam retries over and over again due to their brevity and not bother learning how to actually read what you're playing. I'm "pretty confident" in my 5* play, but I'm not going to get any better than 90% most of the time becasue I don't have the built-up skills to play that yet.

You can bristle and try to dismiss me because I'm sounding all arrogant and condescending and whatever words you want to use that'll make you feel better in disregarding what I'm saying, but do know I'm saying this out of an honest desire to see you truly improve. And that improvement is going to come when you stop playing the 4* maps and jump back down to 3* maps, maybe mid to high-2*'s. Obviously it'll be super-boring when you're used to playing a bunch of 4* maps (and really, that's a grave you dug yourself by playing maps that are harder than your actual skill level and not recognizing it), but when you get over that and actually start playing, things'll be different.

While you're down there, focus on reading the circles as they come and recognizing rhythmic and circle patterns. Learn to recognize the beat and rhythm of the song so you know how to play upcoming parts without having to think about it or just react to what's coming. Get better at snapping your aim and your accuracy in hitting the notes. You don't learn these things from playing stuff 1-2*'s higher than where you're really at, figuratively flailing at the keys and with your mouse/stylus, and think you're doing better just because you passed. Good plays stem from good foundations that lead to consistent high-level performance, and with the right foundation you'll reach a point where you can play those 4-4.5* maps with very high acc.

Your goal down at the 2*/low 3* range should be to play those maps until you can consistently get 95%+ acc on them, at minimum. Ideally you would get high-acc (97%+) FCs--or to my personal liking, SS's--but just 95% is well enough. Then you can jump to low 3*'s and some mid 3*'s and do the same. ANd so on with mid-high 3*'s, and then you're back to those 4* maps you like. But you know what'll be different? You'll actually make plays. You'll have high accuracy, lots of A's and S's (with maybe a couple SS's thrown in), and you'll rake in the pp and all that. Why? Because you practiced at the level you were actually competent at, and got better by building from the bottom up, not from somewhere in the middle and filling out the bottom haphazardly.



Now, all that jargon and admonishment aside, you are still perfectly within your rights to ignore us and play those 4*'s until you get bored of the game and quit out, or eke out whatever fun you can. But that doesn't sound like fun to me, and it sounds like it's not being fun to you anymore. Quitting is always an option, yes, but maybe taking a step back (and a step down) will help you figure out what is fun for you, and/or get your skills back on track. Many players here such as I like it best when newcomers like you actually find a good groove and advance far with properly-trained skills, even if we sound abrasive and contrary to what you want to hear. But please trust us when we say it works, because it does.

Simon12 wrote:

badrooo wrote:

random chokes on sections that aren't even hard for me that just makes me want to play less and less, feels like I'm plateau-ing alot with skill but I guess the only answer is just play more.

Are you sure those chokes are random? Be honest lol.
If you can't tell why you've missed on something it either means you didn't pay attention or didn't read it correctly.

I'm not denying that it has to do with my reading but it just becomes more and more demoralizing to see myself normally hitting a section then break on a completely random note that I would always hit.

Either way, the answer is simple, just play more, I know that, I'm asking for maps that would be refreshing for me to play.

Voidedosu wrote:

badrooo wrote:

Happy Satoko wrote:

You should really play 1-2 hours to improve, to be honest. As far as maps, download and play as many maps as possible. It might be a good idea to go back down to 2 or 3 star.

Yeah, but only 98+ fc's end up giving me more ranks though and most 3 star maps for me are too slow and boring.
I care about improvement but I also want to have fun improving.

kujubuo wrote:

because u are supposed to play 3 star maps right now dont please skip at 4.

I can confidently do 4 star maps though? it's just that I end up doing dumb mistakes which demotivate me to play more, I only really want new good maps so I get a new refreshing experience.

Simon12 wrote:

Why do you miss?

random chokes on sections that aren't even hard for me that just makes me want to play less and less, feels like I'm plateau-ing alot with skill but I guess the only answer is just play more.

You are a 700K player, with only 12 of your top 55 plays being over 95%, and every single map is some short 1-minute or minute-and-a-half spammable map (probably spammable jump maps, I don't have those types memorized).

You are "plateau-ing" because you're not able to spam-retry maps and get something "good" out of it (and really, a majority of B-ranks on even [Hard] maps is not "good"), while bad playing habits from using mods and playing beyond your skill level is inhibiting your actual growth.

"But I'm pretty confi--" No, you just think you're confident because you managed to spam your way through a 4* 30-second map and somehow eked out a 90% score. You can certainly believe that's good for you all you want, but that's not going to impress anyone if you were wanting that, and it's not going to make you any better to keep going for that. All these short maps are doing is making you spam retries over and over again due to their brevity and not bother learning how to actually read what you're playing. I'm "pretty confident" in my 5* play, but I'm not going to get any better than 90% most of the time becasue I don't have the built-up skills to play that yet.

You can bristle and try to dismiss me because I'm sounding all arrogant and condescending and whatever words you want to use that'll make you feel better in disregarding what I'm saying, but do know I'm saying this out of an honest desire to see you truly improve. And that improvement is going to come when you stop playing the 4* maps and jump back down to 3* maps, maybe mid to high-2*'s. Obviously it'll be super-boring when you're used to playing a bunch of 4* maps (and really, that's a grave you dug yourself by playing maps that are harder than your actual skill level and not recognizing it), but when you get over that and actually start playing, things'll be different.

While you're down there, focus on reading the circles as they come and recognizing rhythmic and circle patterns. Learn to recognize the beat and rhythm of the song so you know how to play upcoming parts without having to think about it or just react to what's coming. Get better at snapping your aim and your accuracy in hitting the notes. You don't learn these things from playing stuff 1-2*'s higher than where you're really at, figuratively flailing at the keys and with your mouse/stylus, and think you're doing better just because you passed. Good plays stem from good foundations that lead to consistent high-level performance, and with the right foundation you'll reach a point where you can play those 4-4.5* maps with very high acc.

Your goal down at the 2*/low 3* range should be to play those maps until you can consistently get 95%+ acc on them, at minimum. Ideally you would get high-acc (97%+) FCs--or to my personal liking, SS's--but just 95% is well enough. Then you can jump to low 3*'s and some mid 3*'s and do the same. ANd so on with mid-high 3*'s, and then you're back to those 4* maps you like. But you know what'll be different? You'll actually make plays. You'll have high accuracy, lots of A's and S's (with maybe a couple SS's thrown in), and you'll rake in the pp and all that. Why? Because you practiced at the level you were actually competent at, and got better by building from the bottom up, not from somewhere in the middle and filling out the bottom haphazardly.



Now, all that jargon and admonishment aside, you are still perfectly within your rights to ignore us and play those 4*'s until you get bored of the game and quit out, or eke out whatever fun you can. But that doesn't sound like fun to me, and it sounds like it's not being fun to you anymore. Quitting is always an option, yes, but maybe taking a step back (and a step down) will help you figure out what is fun for you, and/or get your skills back on track. Many players here such as I like it best when newcomers like you actually find a good groove and advance far with properly-trained skills, even if we sound abrasive and contrary to what you want to hear. But please trust us when we say it works, because it does.

I appreciate the reply, gave it a thorough read and I could say most of what you mentioned is completely true.

In regards of 2-3.5* maps, I can consistently see myself fcing with good acc, normally after a warm-up session.

Also, the maps in my top plays aren't really what I strived for, they were more of an ego boost to see if I can actually pass these maps or do I really suck, I was surprised they were worth that much but not really gonna complain, but normally I'd grind out a 2-3min 4* map, pass it, and it would most times just end up in lowering my rank.
and I don't really want to sound off as someone cocky but I truly believe I can FC 4* maps without it being a stroke of luck. Sure, it'll take a few tries but I definitely would be able to.

Although, I did kind of dig my own grave by getting used to fast paced maps, it still gave me a huge boost in my skill in a small period of time where it would've taken me much longer if I stuck with the normal 3-3.5* maps I was playing.

Still though, I will take your advice with a kind heart but this doesn't answer my question, the only reason I started this thread is because I wanted to see if anyone has what you guys consider 'good maps' for my skill level, since the stuff I enjoy would normally be teaching me bad habits, I asked for someone to recommend me a good set of maps that would be good for my improvement.
Now I don't want to make this any harder if no one has them at disposal so it'd be easier if someone can tell me the criteria of what makes a good map or just a good source of maps, that would be sweet.

Again, I appreciate the reply, it was kind of eye-opening but it also felt like a you suck get good kinda reply XD, all good though.

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badrooo wrote:

Simon12 wrote:

Are you sure those chokes are random? Be honest lol.
If you can't tell why you've missed on something it either means you didn't pay attention or didn't read it correctly.

I'm not denying that it has to do with my reading but it just becomes more and more demoralizing to see myself normally hitting a section then break on a completely random note that I would always hit.

Either way, the answer is simple, just play more, I know that, I'm asking for maps that would be refreshing for me to play.

I would give you good maps for your skill level if I could.
The reason I don't think I can is because I don't know how good you are.
Personally I would just download random stuff from here:
community/forums/topics/330552?n=1

It can be fun to see how maps in a certain time period were like. So I would recommend trying out different packs from different years and see how they compare. Maybe you'll find that some years have better maps than other years.
Who knows?

Just play anything that has "Hard, Light Insane, Hyper" in the diff name. You're pretty much 800k, so somewhat of a beginner. There's no reason to push yourself to play higher star maps if you 1. can't acc it and 2. can't hit more than 1/2 the patterns i.e. jumps. Just learn how to play the game and eventually play higher star maps as you improve!

In all honesty, though, play maps that are in the 3.7-4.1 star range, pre-rework, nothing above 9 AR (or approach rate, how fast the circles appear and close).

I appreciate the reply, gave it a thorough read and I could say most of what you mentioned is completely true.

In regards of 2-3.5* maps, I can consistently see myself fcing with good acc, normally after a warm-up session.

Also, the maps in my top plays aren't really what I strived for, they were more of an ego boost to see if I can actually pass these maps or do I really suck, I was surprised they were worth that much but not really gonna complain, but normally I'd grind out a 2-3min 4* map, pass it, and it would most times just end up in lowering my rank.
and I don't really want to sound off as someone cocky but I truly believe I can FC 4* maps without it being a stroke of luck. Sure, it'll take a few tries but I definitely would be able to.

Although, I did kind of dig my own grave by getting used to fast paced maps, it still gave me a huge boost in my skill in a small period of time where it would've taken me much longer if I stuck with the normal 3-3.5* maps I was playing.

Still though, I will take your advice with a kind heart but this doesn't answer my question, the only reason I started this thread is because I wanted to see if anyone has what you guys consider 'good maps' for my skill level, since the stuff I enjoy would normally be teaching me bad habits, I asked for someone to recommend me a good set of maps that would be good for my improvement.
Now I don't want to make this any harder if no one has them at disposal so it'd be easier if someone can tell me the criteria of what makes a good map or just a good source of maps, that would be sweet.

Again, I appreciate the reply, it was kind of eye-opening but it also felt like a you suck get good kinda reply XD, all good though.

In turn, I admit I'm not much of a "here are some maps you can play" kind of person. My general point was to just say "you really need to play at this level instead of that level", and that someone else could provide the maps for you better than I could.

That being said, there are a few things that would inhibit me anyways:
A.) I'm not at your level anymore, so I genuinely do not know what would be "good" for you.
B.) At the point that you're playing mid-2* maps, there's not really a lot there as far as specific skills. You can see stuff like more stacked circles and slightly more technical rhythms, but actual bursts and significant jumps don't start until the higher 2*'s. My honest advice would really just be to find good songs that you like or play as wide a variety as you can, and work on those fundamental skills in the process.

and I don't really want to sound off as someone cocky but I truly believe I can FC 4* maps without it being a stroke of luck. Sure, it'll take a few tries but I definitely would be able to.

Imma say that's cap, with respect. Unless you're going to retry spam over and over again, you're not going to get a 4* FC except on something like an easier Harumachi Clover. Maybe when you get to the 3* range you could give it a shot, but as you are now? Bit unlikely.

As for the criteria of good maps, as I said, 2* maps don't really have any "good" maps in that sense, imo. For right now, just find 2* maps you find fun (Satoko has a good-sized list to choose from), or just look for some at random in the beatmaps page or something like Osusearch. When you get to the 3* range then it's a bit easier because there's actual substance more often than not.