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playing hard maps for improvement

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Relay
i have been playing almost all "hard maps" for about 2 weeks, and i still feel like im struggling. it isn't as bad as before where i wouldn't be able to read some maps at all, but i feel like im not playing the right maps. the maps im talking about:

beatmapsets/1154756#osu/2409988
https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/1021829#osu/2199786
beatmapsets/461903#osu/989151
https://osu.ppy.sh/beatmapsets/1125778#osu/2353801

longer maps with harder to read patterns (mainly between the 4.5 - 5.5 star diff maps). im mainly focusing on accuracy and basing my improvement on that, rather than combo. but, its demotivating to practice these maps and struggle.

im mainly asking for advice for improvement. i dont care about PP currently, since i dont value that as a sign of improvement (even though literally almost all of my top plays are farm). i just want to improve at the unique maps that challenge me in ways other than 1 2 jumps and basic farm/speed.

thank you
Nilocnus
Playing difficult maps can improve your abilities to sight-read similar patterns in other maps, but if you want to get proficient in your accuracy and consistency you should honestly slowly transition to ones you're not as proficient with. You already seem to have a really good accuracy on most of your top plays, regardless if they're pp farm maps. But how consistent are you in doing them? If you're consistent, then that's good. If not, continue to play those maps until you can comfortably get close to or a full FC in your first few attempts.

Next in the transitioning stage. What exactly are you looking for to improve? Give yourself a specific goal. Square jumps? Slow streams? Fast streams? Slider jumps? Or just looking for more consistency in general throughout other patterns? Either ways, those focuses give you a clear direction to work towards. Remember not to overwork yourself over everything. Take a step out of your comfort zone, but don't go sprinting into the unknown.
Almost
Accuracy isn't that great of a metric to judge off either unless you compare your previous plays on the same map since your accuracy is determined largely by the map you're playing.
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Relay

SapFireMC wrote:

Playing difficult maps can improve your abilities to sight-read similar patterns in other maps, but if you want to get proficient in your accuracy and consistency you should honestly slowly transition to ones you're not as proficient with. You already seem to have a really good accuracy on most of your top plays, regardless if they're pp farm maps. But how consistent are you in doing them? If you're consistent, then that's good. If not, continue to play those maps until you can comfortably get close to or a full FC in your first few attempts.

Next in the transitioning stage. What exactly are you looking for to improve? Give yourself a specific goal. Square jumps? Slow streams? Fast streams? Slider jumps? Or just looking for more consistency in general throughout other patterns? Either ways, those focuses give you a clear direction to work towards. Remember not to overwork yourself over everything. Take a step out of your comfort zone, but don't go sprinting into the unknown.
My main focuses are: different jump patterns, burst/stream segments (that can change bpm throughout the song rapidly, 150-200 bpm range), awkward reading/tapping with the rhythm, awkward burst with sliders, and tech sliders.



Almost wrote:

Accuracy isn't that great of a metric to judge off either unless you compare your previous plays on the same map since your accuracy is determined largely by the map you're playing.
Yeah, i usually look at how i did before at certain parts in maps to determine how well i did, and how comfortable it was to read/play.
Almost
Since you're playing a lot of tech stuff, it's probably best not to worry too much about your accuracy since tech maps tend to be more difficult to accuracy. Your accuracy isn't really bad on other stuff anyway. It's probably best to focus more on reading it better for those sorts of maps.
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Relay

Almost wrote:

Since you're playing a lot of tech stuff, it's probably best not to worry too much about your accuracy since tech maps tend to be more difficult to accuracy. Your accuracy isn't really bad on other stuff anyway. It's probably best to focus more on reading it better for those sorts of maps.

so should i be balancing the difficulty of maps i should be playing? for example, playing mid-high 4 star tech maps for reading accuracy, and then playing higher maps that my acc would decrease a lot?
Almost
Variety is the spice of life.
DeletedUser_9419541
your acc is decent but I think you should master 4-5* maps first. There are alot of 4-5 star maps that are like 5.5-6 stars. So, I recommend doing this. its your choice.
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Hiiiii5 wrote:

your acc is decent but I think you should master 4-5* maps first. There are alot of 4-5 star maps that are like 5.5-6 stars. So, I recommend doing this. its your choice.
im trying that, and a lot of maps are 5.1-5.5 stars that im trying to improve on. i try not to push too hard when it comes to speed/difficulty in this genre, but playing maps that i get (on average around 4.5-5*) 94-96% with not many misses all day gets boring.



Almost wrote:

Variety is the spice of life.
Ryuto
I personally play in my comfort zone or just maps for fun (5* to 6.5*), then I decide to farm sometimes (slightly out of comfort 6-6.5* with HDHR) and then sometimes I go all out and play hard aim maps, stupidly fast maps... you name it, on 7* to push my limit.

Limit pushing helps getting better but keep playing what you can already do aswell so you don't get inconsistent.
Basically the limit pushing will make you 80% some map, then some months later you will 90%, and then 95% and so on.

It's important to know which maps to play, playing streams will improve, well, your streaming.
Playing fast maps will improve speed etc.

Another important thing is, do not push too hard, It wouldn't make sense for me to play 8*, as I can't even do most 7* properly yet.
Topic Starter
Relay

Hiiiii5 wrote:

your acc is decent but I think you should master 4-5* maps first. There are alot of 4-5 star maps that are like 5.5-6 stars. So, I recommend doing this. its your choice.
what is technically mastering 4-5* maps? do you mean being able to FC the tech/difficult maps, or just in general feel extremely comfortable?
Almost

Relay wrote:

Hiiiii5 wrote:

your acc is decent but I think you should master 4-5* maps first. There are alot of 4-5 star maps that are like 5.5-6 stars. So, I recommend doing this. its your choice.
what is technically mastering 4-5* maps? do you mean being able to FC the tech/difficult maps, or just in general feel extremely comfortable?
I would say that it's just getting to the level where you can sight read FC most of those maps pretty consistently. It's not realistic to think you're going to be able master all of them since there will definitely be some maps in that difficulty range that require you to have some extremely niche skill sets.
Nilocnus

Almost wrote:

Relay wrote:

Hiiiii5 wrote:

your acc is decent but I think you should master 4-5* maps first. There are alot of 4-5 star maps that are like 5.5-6 stars. So, I recommend doing this. its your choice.
what is technically mastering 4-5* maps? do you mean being able to FC the tech/difficult maps, or just in general feel extremely comfortable?
I would say that it's just getting to the level where you can sight read FC most of those maps pretty consistently. It's not realistic to think you're going to be able master all of them since there will definitely be some maps in that difficulty range that require you to have some extremely niche skill sets.
I'd say so too. Getting comfortable with playing a lot of 4 stars can help you transition to getting comfortable with 5 stars. Anything can fall under here. You don't necessarily need to FC every 4 star you come across in 1st attempt. Perhaps, working on general consistency in your aim or acc? Really anything that makes you comfortable playing them.
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