or i win regardless the side :eyes:Sakura wrote:
The only reason igor turned Neutral Survivor was because of the modkill punishment, that ensures igor loses regardless of which side he's playing for.
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YyottaCat
Of course, Imma have to start of with you. You know that I'm mad, but I do not hate you. I love how confident you are and that's not a bad thing, but being TOO confident is where shit hits the fan. I did a little research on how many times you said "Shin is scum" or "Cuz you're scum" and it was like 9 times with like little to no evidence. Next time, please just find something with evidence about that person is truly 100% mafia. Overall you played well, GGWP my guy.
Pentaqola
I don't have anything to say to you, but this part is just too funny, but please don't just hammer out of nowhere. Also, don't get bamboozled on Penguin's character info. That doesn't always mean that they are 100% town. My guy Penguin is probably dancing to his victory rn after you got bamboozled.
POV of Penguin dancing:
ShinRun
This part is where you fucked up big time my guy. You were in the middle of convincing people to vote out TN and all of the sudden when YyottaCat voted Penguin, you took a big turn and followed up with YyottaCat and said how you tracked him last night. The was the part that was really sus of you, but lucky I trusted you throughout the game.
i will take it into account along with the other things i have learned from my shitty first time game of role madness
hopefully we will get something similar to this in the future
Just take in mind future Upicks might be more themed and may have special mechanics instead of being just "Anything" this was more of an introduction to upicks in general.
tn and GIF was obviously gonna vote for me and there was no way in hell Yyotta is gonna change vote so Penguin would have played afk and vote me out last second
When I saw that Yyotta voted for Penguin, I knew it was the right time to act since we could have literally won if Penta also voted for Penguin but she said na and quickhammered
Also I literally just had to convince the cat to win the game but doing so I lost the trust of the lemon
Alternatively, just not let what other people "might do" affect you and just give your guilty.
There's one thing that was wrong that GIF mentioned tho, and it's the fact that you should always claim your guilty as soon as you get it, although if your role is already revealed there's not much harm with just giving away your result as soon as possible, but if you're trying to fish for a reaction then you dont really need to claim the guilty ASAP.
There's one thing that's always been something i always live by ever since i got mislim'd a bunch of times when i was a newbie.
"It's not the fault of the eliminated player that they get eliminated, but it's the town's fault for letting scum convince them to eliminate them."
As much as scum says "We shouldnt keep the redirector alive" it was 1-Shot, whether scum killed abraker or not that night, if abraker hit correctly with the redirect or not wouldnt make a difference as it wouldnt be available the next night.
But even without all that role speculation, out of You, abraker, penta and Yyotta.
abraker was the correct choice, and if you had deduced the scum team you should've realized that it was the only option for scum.
abraker was willing to vote with you, abraker was also pretty close to figuring out the scum team, abraker was the only one to bring to light things that could make GIF scum, and abraker was playing very smart.
Yyotta wanting to eliminate you, made sense for scum to leave you both alive so Yyotta can help scum win. And penta was always a wild card anyway.
that award goes to igor, hands down
I disagree. It's a double edged sword. The role claims helped greatly determine who was scum, and honestly I should have ran with it. This game taught me it's accurate 2/3rds of the time. Bambi claiming doctor would have flew under my radar, but tn's later play was a total flop.The only reason it worked well as is was because mafia had almost 0 way to meddle with things role wise.
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Technically you could've roleblocked the FN by simply targeting him with anything, but you didn't know that.
Some roles are worth claiming outright (Miller) and a lot of roles are worth hiding it til necessary (cop etc)
I’m the sexiest friendly neighborhood.Sakura wrote:
Asian Warlord
Welcome to Anything Upick, You are Yui Hanasaka a hard-working shy high-school girl, someone so innocent looking couldnt possibly be mafia right? so you might want to tell others that you arent! however your shyness prevents you from doing so when someone visits you and makes you freeze up being unable to do so, until the night you decide to work up your courage.
During the Night you may target a player and they will know that you're town, however if you're targeted by any action your action fails.
Once in the Game, you may become Strongwilled preventing your action from failing no matter what during that Night.
Please confirm your role by PMing me your RoleName:
You guys should start simping for me.
Can confirm Asian does indeed looks like a high school anime girl irl
hey no one commented on how well I did
I cannot stress this enough but you still managed to kill yourself even when no one targeted youYhuan Debeste wrote:
hey no one commented on how well I did
which... opened the possibility for you guys to find out scum cusShinRun wrote:
I cannot stress this enough but you still managed to kill yourself even when no one targeted youYhuan Debeste wrote:
hey no one commented on how well I did
Sakura wrote:
Day 2 it was as simple as asking "Who received Yhuan's message" since Yhuan gives a message to every person they target, it's in their role PM. If no one admitted to receiving the message then he probably targeted the person scum NK'd or scum, and from there that's easier to figure out.
Everyone thought it was me probably because of our past relationships or smthYhuan Debeste wrote:
which... opened the possibility for you guys to find out scum cusShinRun wrote:
I cannot stress this enough but you still managed to kill yourself even when no one targeted youYhuan Debeste wrote:
hey no one commented on how well I didSakura wrote:
Day 2 it was as simple as asking "Who received Yhuan's message" since Yhuan gives a message to every person they target, it's in their role PM. If no one admitted to receiving the message then he probably targeted the person scum NK'd or scum, and from there that's easier to figure out.
you didn't even pressure me ._.ShinRun wrote:
Everyone thought it was me probably because of our past relationships or smth
Asian Warlord is really mad RN.
Waiting for him to swear all over me.
TF you think?YyottaCat wrote:
Asian Warlord is really mad RN.
doctor getting modkilled is the worst thing that can happen
When I get home, imma write the whole entire Declaration of Independence on yo ass
Mans gonna revive Thomas Jefferson back from the dead
If you're not on the list that means that I don't have anything to say to you since you all played well. GGWP.
Of course, Imma have to start of with you. You know that I'm mad, but I do not hate you. I love how confident you are and that's not a bad thing, but being TOO confident is where shit hits the fan. I did a little research on how many times you said "Shin is scum" or "Cuz you're scum" and it was like 9 times with like little to no evidence. Next time, please just find something with evidence about that person is truly 100% mafia. Overall you played well, GGWP my guy.
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Link: Bruhpentaqola wrote:
DO NOT VOTE FOR PENGUIN, HE IS FAR FROM DOING ANY HARM TO TOWN.
Vote: ShinRun
I don't have anything to say to you, but this part is just too funny, but please don't just hammer out of nowhere. Also, don't get bamboozled on Penguin's character info. That doesn't always mean that they are 100% town. My guy Penguin is probably dancing to his victory rn after you got bamboozled.
POV of Penguin dancing:
Link: Bruh MomentShinRun wrote:
You know whatYyottaCat wrote:
VOTE: Penguin
Apparently abraker is not scum.
I actually agree with you
Last night I tracked penguin and found out he killed abraker
This part is where you fucked up big time my guy. You were in the middle of convincing people to vote out TN and all of the sudden when YyottaCat voted Penguin, you took a big turn and followed up with YyottaCat and said how you tracked him last night. The was the part that was really sus of you, but lucky I trusted you throughout the game.
Lastly, I thought more people would trust me than GIF when I said
But GIF have to hit me with the 3 million IQ plays that I can't counter against him.Asian Warlord wrote:
I don't think that doctors kill people, they heal people.
What are you trying to do? Defend bambi, because both of you are mafia?
That took a while
thank you very much for your insightful wordsAsian Warlord wrote:
That took a while
i will take it into account along with the other things i have learned from my shitty first time game of role madness
hopefully we will get something similar to this in the future
Topic Starter
We certainly will.pentaqola wrote:
hopefully we will get something similar to this in the future
Just take in mind future Upicks might be more themed and may have special mechanics instead of being just "Anything" this was more of an introduction to upicks in general.
Fun fact
Asian first wrote “Shin is cum” in his first draft
Asian first wrote “Shin is cum” in his first draft
It took me a while to figure out exactly what to tell igor.
Basically, try to be more transparent. Like, show your reasoning why you think such ways. If it's just a gut feeling, that is completely fine. "I think X is scum because gut" is much more plausible than just going "X is scum." Other than that, I think you just need to be more experienced is all.
And of course, try to remember and follow the game rule
Basically, try to be more transparent. Like, show your reasoning why you think such ways. If it's just a gut feeling, that is completely fine. "I think X is scum because gut" is much more plausible than just going "X is scum." Other than that, I think you just need to be more experienced is all.
And of course, try to remember and follow the game rule
abraker I didn't really have much problem with. We did leave him alive N1 frankly only because he looked like the most competent one out there and killing him N1 would've made the game too easy for us.
Even then penguin held his own p well and bambi was mostly not around to really do anything.
Scum chat was mostly me weaving plausible stories and directing people time to time tbh.abraker wrote:
Why is that Guy, Igor, and Penguin suddenly so active. They prob have lines of chat flying in scum discord server right now
Even then penguin held his own p well and bambi was mostly not around to really do anything.
I did tell penguin to claim 1-shot commuter though.
It's such a comfortable, safe, borderline impossible to test, role to claim that fits in nicely in 99% of the setup.
It's such a comfortable, safe, borderline impossible to test, role to claim that fits in nicely in 99% of the setup.
But GIF have to hit me with the 3 million IQ plays that I can't counter against him.tbh me doing that was far from being optimal play and I knew it. But I wanted to see if I can get my scum mate out of guilty by bullshiting hard enough.
but at the same time I'm not the best in mafia unlike GIF, Penguin, and abraker.
Alright look here fuckerAsian Warlord wrote:
This part is where you fucked up big time my guy. You were in the middle of convincing people to vote out TN and all of the sudden when YyottaCat voted Penguin, you took a big turn and followed up with YyottaCat and said how you tracked him last night. The was the part that was really sus of you, but lucky I trusted you throughout the game
tn and GIF was obviously gonna vote for me and there was no way in hell Yyotta is gonna change vote so Penguin would have played afk and vote me out last second
When I saw that Yyotta voted for Penguin, I knew it was the right time to act since we could have literally won if Penta also voted for Penguin but she said na and quickhammered
Also I literally just had to convince the cat to win the game but doing so I lost the trust of the lemon
BruhShinRun wrote:
Fun fact
Asian first wrote “Shin is cum” in his first draft
I was gonna have penguin claim modified faith healer that has 50% chance to either heal or kill the target. He leaned towards bambi being scum D3 (cos he said he was) because his role was part doctor, and he lied about being a commuter so mafia doesn’t shoot him since he could save life 50%.
Penta happened before actually deciding on whether for penguin to claim that though
Penta happened before actually deciding on whether for penguin to claim that though
Also if igor didn't act like a dumbass. We might've won.
I understood why you did that actually. But I was scum, it was opportunistic nonetheless, and I had 0 reason not to twist that as scummy move.ShinRun wrote:
Alright look here fuckerAsian Warlord wrote:
This part is where you fucked up big time my guy. You were in the middle of convincing people to vote out TN and all of the sudden when YyottaCat voted Penguin, you took a big turn and followed up with YyottaCat and said how you tracked him last night. The was the part that was really sus of you, but lucky I trusted you throughout the game
tn and GIF was obviously gonna vote for me and there was no way in hell Yyotta is gonna change vote so Penguin would have played afk and vote me out last second
When I saw that Yyotta voted for Penguin, I knew it was the right time to act since we could have literally won if Penta also voted for Penguin but she said na and quickhammered
Also I literally just had to convince the cat to win the game but doing so I lost the trust of the lemon
everything that could've go wrong goes wrong lol
Raffi you didn't even do anything
Topic Starter
As i said in the spoiled graveyard. Scum tends to write a story, a "narrative" (key word there since you'll see it a lot) to fit with what they want town to believe so that their fake role claims make perfect sense (look at GIF claiming vig for example, and the way he twisted the way ShinRun entered Day 3)
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Well at least most experienced scum do. I'm still pretty far from that.
I feel like Bambinex being afk was actually a good thing for the scum
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My favorite part was when scum had this whole plan going on based on NotRaffi flipping 1-Shot Cop (without ascetic) and it went all down coz he was a town universal backup that inherited ascetic 1-shot cop, so scum had to improvise.
Topic Starter
Funny is that if the cop hadnt been ascetic, bambi/tn would've shot penguin
Topic Starter
On top of NotRaffi getting a guilty on GIF, and well, however you guys choose to interpret bambi/tn killing Penguin (which would've been given away after abraker claimed).
so one single ascetic literally saved scum from being obliterated day 3.
so one single ascetic literally saved scum from being obliterated day 3.
Yk the game is gonna end with town losing when 2 of the 4 town remaining have unconditional trust in the scums.
Literally if I called tn out, Yyotta, GIF, tn and Penguin will vote for me
If I called Penguin out, GIF, tn, Penguin will vote for me
If I called GIF out then I automatically lose since there is no way I'm winning an argument against this dude
Literally if I called tn out, Yyotta, GIF, tn and Penguin will vote for me
If I called Penguin out, GIF, tn, Penguin will vote for me
If I called GIF out then I automatically lose since there is no way I'm winning an argument against this dude
Fuck if only abraker survived night 3 and Penta died instead
Topic Starter
Maybe you should work on gaining trust more.ShinRun wrote:
Yk the game is gonna end with town losing when 2 of the 4 town remaining have unconditional trust in the scums.
Literally if I called tn out, Yyotta, GIF, tn and Penguin will vote for me
If I called Penguin out, GIF, tn, Penguin will vote for me
If I called GIF out then I automatically lose since there is no way I'm winning an argument against this dude
Alternatively, just not let what other people "might do" affect you and just give your guilty.
There's one thing that was wrong that GIF mentioned tho, and it's the fact that you should always claim your guilty as soon as you get it, although if your role is already revealed there's not much harm with just giving away your result as soon as possible, but if you're trying to fish for a reaction then you dont really need to claim the guilty ASAP.
There's one thing that's always been something i always live by ever since i got mislim'd a bunch of times when i was a newbie.
"It's not the fault of the eliminated player that they get eliminated, but it's the town's fault for letting scum convince them to eliminate them."
Topic Starter
You know, i think the reason abraker died is coz they wanted to leave you alive since you were limbait material with Yyotta wanting to eliminate you all the time.ShinRun wrote:
Fuck if only abraker survived night 3 and Penta died instead
As much as scum says "We shouldnt keep the redirector alive" it was 1-Shot, whether scum killed abraker or not that night, if abraker hit correctly with the redirect or not wouldnt make a difference as it wouldnt be available the next night.
But even without all that role speculation, out of You, abraker, penta and Yyotta.
abraker was the correct choice, and if you had deduced the scum team you should've realized that it was the only option for scum.
abraker was willing to vote with you, abraker was also pretty close to figuring out the scum team, abraker was the only one to bring to light things that could make GIF scum, and abraker was playing very smart.
Yyotta wanting to eliminate you, made sense for scum to leave you both alive so Yyotta can help scum win. And penta was always a wild card anyway.
Topic Starter
Anyway, since Shin's game is starting soon i guess, i want to take the time to gauge how many people are interested in either of the following setups.
Semi-Nightless or White Flag.
Those 2 setups are Mountainous (means no power roles, the opposite of role madness), which would be good to hone your skills in the day play of the game, but can turn out exhausting or boring and bring apathy much more easily as well. Both have different mechanics that balance the game a bit since mountainous is scumsided by default.
Semi Nightless gives the Town a 2 day headstart as the first 2 nights are skipped so scum cant NK until Night 3.
White Flag has a normal spread (10:3) but scum loses if there's 1 scum remaining (they surrender automatically) which makes busing harder and also scum should be more careful of connections.
If there's no interest on either i'll see other options for the future.
Semi-Nightless or White Flag.
Those 2 setups are Mountainous (means no power roles, the opposite of role madness), which would be good to hone your skills in the day play of the game, but can turn out exhausting or boring and bring apathy much more easily as well. Both have different mechanics that balance the game a bit since mountainous is scumsided by default.
Semi Nightless gives the Town a 2 day headstart as the first 2 nights are skipped so scum cant NK until Night 3.
White Flag has a normal spread (10:3) but scum loses if there's 1 scum remaining (they surrender automatically) which makes busing harder and also scum should be more careful of connections.
If there's no interest on either i'll see other options for the future.
Topic Starter
YupShinRun wrote:
So basically just a bunch of vanilla and goons
i tried to do something but it just makes me even more suspicious so i stoppedYhuan Debeste wrote:
Raffi you didn't even do anything
Topic Starter
Let's get something out of the way.
If you're town, you DONT CARE if your actions make you look suspicious, because you're town, there's no way your actions are suspicious, if anything, trying to appear less suspicious makes you look MORE suspicious because scum by default are trying to "appear less suspicious".
If you're town, you DONT CARE if your actions make you look suspicious, because you're town, there's no way your actions are suspicious, if anything, trying to appear less suspicious makes you look MORE suspicious because scum by default are trying to "appear less suspicious".
Topic Starter
when you see a player that cares how they appear, and how their actions look, more than likely it's scum, since scum has the most to lose when eliminated. town just wants to get their thoughts out and give/get information, while scum wants to obfuscate/hide information.
I mean i know that sounds easy in theory, but it's not easy in practice.
I mean i know that sounds easy in theory, but it's not easy in practice.
In this logic, I was the most towny person in the gameSakura wrote:
when you see a player that cares how they appear, and how their actions look, more than likely it's scum, since scum has the most to lose when eliminated. town just wants to get their thoughts out and give/get information, while scum wants to obfuscate/hide information.
I mean i know that sounds easy in theory, but it's not easy in practice.
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Probably? I dont remember that much of any discussion at this point, but as i said before, if you're eliminated when you were doing your best to do that, it's not your fault, but the Towns' that got duped by scum.ShinRun wrote:
In this logic, I was the most towny person in the gameSakura wrote:
when you see a player that cares how they appear, and how their actions look, more than likely it's scum, since scum has the most to lose when eliminated. town just wants to get their thoughts out and give/get information, while scum wants to obfuscate/hide information.
I mean i know that sounds easy in theory, but it's not easy in practice.
i didn't think this game would go for 1,400+ posts
seems unexpectedly long
seems unexpectedly long
It’s really based on people’s play style. I for one do care about how I appear as town. Town’s goal is to eliminate scum and if I’m being suspicious enough to draw votes and I’m not doing anything about it I am playing against my win condition by letting myself (town) get eliminated.Sakura wrote:
when you see a player that cares how they appear, and how their actions look, more than likely it's scum, since scum has the most to lose when eliminated. town just wants to get their thoughts out and give/get information, while scum wants to obfuscate/hide information.
I mean i know that sounds easy in theory, but it's not easy in practice.
But games without roles are boringSakura wrote:
YupShinRun wrote:
So basically just a bunch of vanilla and goons
I was trying too hard to not be suspicious and that makes me more suspicious lolSakura wrote:
Let's get something out of the way.
If you're town, you DONT CARE if your actions make you look suspicious, because you're town, there's no way your actions are suspicious, if anything, trying to appear less suspicious makes you look MORE suspicious because scum by default are trying to "appear less suspicious".
Topic Starter
Mafia chat has been added to the discord links list, i'll also put the link here: https://discord.gg/QzjkVVeH
It would be hard to call most of what I did "playing" seeing as it consisted of two paragraphs of text and prodging.
one of the most bruh moments out there for lol. That was pretty much the peak of my scheming, and it all went downhill from there.Sakura wrote:
Funny is that if the cop hadnt been ascetic, bambi/tn would've shot penguin
WRONGShinRun wrote:
In this logic, I was the most towny person in the gameSakura wrote:
when you see a player that cares how they appear, and how their actions look, more than likely it's scum, since scum has the most to lose when eliminated. town just wants to get their thoughts out and give/get information, while scum wants to obfuscate/hide information.
I mean i know that sounds easy in theory, but it's not easy in practice.
that award goes to igor, hands down
no power roles means there is no point in claims. I had fun trying to figure out whether a player is bs'd their claim or not. So that would pretty much remove a dimension of interest for prob many. Plain games are great for avid fans of mafia to hone their strategy, not so much for normies who want to have fun.Sakura wrote:
Semi-Nightless or White Flag.
Those 2 setups are Mountainous (means no power roles, the opposite of role madness), which would be good to hone your skills in the day play of the game, but can turn out exhausting or boring and bring apathy much more easily as well. Both have different mechanics that balance the game a bit since mountainous is scumsided by default.