STAR~

KISS君说要多几个难度的..没问题~

star~! 以后改名字 你只要换其中一个难度的名字 然后完整上传 就好了 之后再补别的难度..

感谢~~

Star

谢谢SUMMER触手君~~

Title:
Miyuki Sawashiro - Ambivalent World

easy的break有点多 @.@
hard的spacing...

那啥 做图是不是没开Distance Snap
选好间距开DS把note全部重新排一次吧..

star~
(不会MOD 渣mapper我自重

谢谢~很有帮助了~

BPM为174?

可是那样貌似过快了吧=w=

这BPM..怪不得滑条速度是2.6呢Orz..
这歌听起来是快节奏啊 174很正常的说

按SA要求来看看 如果我蛋疼了我就会来mod的

不想做太高的BGM，因为是第一次做~~



=================

KOCHIYA~
那个鬼畜图是你的？不错啊~~

蛋疼来了
BG大小必须是1024X768 或者800X600 好像是o.o
song setup---storyboard---把countdown去掉
[Hard]
00:11:861 X - 加一个note
你不是开了DS么 怎么还是有距离的问题0.0?
00:19:446 (7,8) - 不建议这样 和00:46:689 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) 连打距离一样了 很难分辨
第一次作图建议距离不要变太多0.0..
似乎没有音效?
01:23:929 (1,2,3,1,1) - 分开或者不要newcombo
[Easy]
必须3星或者3星以下 把note换成最大 HP降低 AR降低

懒得看了 好累0.0~

在selee的queue看到的，应该是超过规定的request数了不过看到是华语MAPPER就稍微看了下，不算MOD

你的问题在于跟人声过多，造成整张图缺少一个系统的节奏，排列上比较随机但是距离问题似乎不大。

你需要一个timing setting（绿线）来结束kiai mode

不用给KDS

谢谢二位的帮助~
感激不尽!

支持！

今天太累..懒着用E文了...

BPM: 174.000

改BPM后Slider Velocity除2

tick rate 改到1会好不少吧

Title: Ambivalent World 用这个http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=33919 改title/artist 省的重复上传

mp3结尾怎么还带循环? 砍了吧

kiai在01:20:826结束就好

hard的countdown取消掉

你需要个preview point...Timing--Add preview point

加个空白sliderbody.wav吧..

Hard加些AR, 1/4三连和1/2的都没法分出来...而且堆得满屏都是不好看

Normal不用太追求人声 1/4的话对于Normal过难了 00:51:344 (9) - 如果实在想加这种 用滑杠代替

normal注意下note和滑杠的取舍

短歌就别留太多空白了

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/47697 看这张 参考着做吧

反正最后都要砍了重练 ╮(╯_╰)╭

嘛 坑开多了就好了 加油咯

PS: queue别乱贴 看好规则 乱贴会被讨厌

谢谢阿....
正在改...
对我很有帮助~

newest version.

guest diff xD
或许做的很渣 @.@
赶出来的 因为明天就开学了 /.

have fun

Download: Sawashiro Miyuki - Ambivalent World(TV Size) (6800cube) [fanzhen's Insane].osu

能作出来已经很感谢了~

看到你在群里找MOD～就来帮忙了～～～刚刚开始学MOD～～所以水平不好～～凑合看看吧～～

[总体]
offset：479（建议可以找神TIMING测测～我也不肯定～～之前的感觉不合适）
BPM应该没有错
加个三星以下的EZ～不然好像是不能RANK
音效声音太大～很吵～改小点一般非KIAI用5就差不多了


[normal]
00:23:065 (4,5) - SPACING
00:25:823 (3,4) - ^
00:26:685 (4,5) - ^
00:27:375 (5,6) - ^
00:48:065 (2,3) - ^
00:48:582 (3,4) - ^
00:49:099 (4,5) - ^
00:49:444 (5,6) - ^
00:49:789 (6,7) - ^
00:50:134 (7,8) - ^
00:50:479 (8,9) - ^
00:50:823 (9,10) - ^
00:57:547 (11,12) - ^
01:05:823 (5,6) - ^

nor难度开AIMOD最好是别留SPACING问题


[hard]
00:19:099 (6,7,8) - SPACING
00:22:547 (1,2) - ^
呃～～看了以下～～这个难度所有的问题都差不多～～还是距离问题～～～一组同颜色的COMBO内SPACING不要乱变啊～～那样图根本打不了～～～举个例子～在同一组COMBO内～明明刚才两个NOTE是隔了一拍距离怎么长～～～接下来两个NOTE明明隔得是相同的拍子，但是距离看起来像连打或者大跳～～～那样根本就打不了

[insane]
问题和HARD一样～～建议刚开始做图掌握不好距离～就从头开DS排到尾～～～这样至少BAT或者MAT在看你图的时候～基本上不会拿距离说事

[fanzhen's Insane]
00:20:309 -补个NOTE？～或者和后面的1变成一个SL
00:37:033 -补NOTE
00:22:895 (2) - NEW COMBO
00:24:447 (6) - ^
00:24:964 (8) - ^
00:23:240 (3) - ^
01:07:206 (2) - ^
01:07:551 (3) - ^
01:09:620 (8) - ^
01:18:930 (4) - ^
01:19:447 (7) - ^
01:19:964 (10) - ^
这个难度感觉问题不大～～NEW COMBO主要是为了让跳更好理解一点～～～改不改随意

STAR~~~

谢谢XINHE~~
很认真负责呢~~

你做的LOVE PLUS刷分图我很喜欢~~

STAR
XD.....

xinhe wrote:

[fanzhen's Insane]
00:20:309 -补个NOTE？～或者和后面的1变成一个SL
00:37:033 -补NOTE 不用吧 @.@
00:22:895 (2) - NEW COMBO
00:24:447 (6) - ^
00:24:964 (8) - ^
00:23:240 (3) - ^
01:07:206 (2) - ^
01:07:551 (3) - ^
01:09:620 (8) - ^
01:18:930 (4) - ^
01:19:447 (7) - ^
01:19:964 (10) - ^
这个难度感觉问题不大～～NEW COMBO主要是为了让跳更好理解一点～～～改不改随意

new combo啥的 @.@

2-19 add kiai and some notes redownload plz

Download: Sawashiro Miyuki - Ambivalent World(TV Size) (6800cube) [fanzhen's Insane].osu

感谢fanzhen0019~
咱的图实在很渣。。

STRESS~~~KUD还没给我～～～>.<

咱是用手机。。。用电脑以后一定给~很喜欢你的图的说~

>.<谢谢～～～

嗯 送星星来咯 祝6800神触和18a神触百年好合 祝SA神触打败18a 成功夺得6800美人 过上幸福日子

疼 之前打不来星星~ 还是祝你们三人三角恋喜剧开场也喜剧收场哈~~ 小心被NICE BOAT了哦~

FLY .....
不要吐这种嘈= =
还是谢谢你~
XINHE 你的 KD~

FLY LIGHT去尼玛的
你个渣B<stress>

Hi. You've asked me to mod your map when my queue was full, but I decided to do it anyway. Sorry for the delay.

[General]
Preview Points are not set on all maps except for fanzhen's Insane. You can do it in Timing -> Set Current Position as Preview Point.
Interesting timing set you have.. don't you think that claps are too loud when compared with the rest of the song? Also, needs more hitsounds..

[Normal]
00:19:447 (5) - make this 1 tick shorter so it would follow lyrics better?
00:26:689 (4) - move this to 00:26:516 so it would follow lyrics better?
01:05:309 (4) - move this to 01:05:223 and make it 1 tick longer so it would follow lyrics better?
Maybe map empty sections like 01:07:895 - 01:09:792 and 01:12:895 - 01:15:309 ? No breaks, no notes.. not cool.

[Hard]
There are unsnapped notes here. Please use AIMod (File -> AIMod) to find and fix them.
01:24:964 (1) - make finish of this slider silent?

[fanzhen's Insane]
All good. Please remember that Preview Points should be the same for all diffs.
Also, consider making normal sound sections 10% less loud.

[Insane]
00:14:792 (1) - nazi: 1 grid down.
00:21:861 (5) - remove clap at and and add it at 00:22:206 (6) ? OR add a finish at 00:22:206 (6) ?
01:25:309 (1) - make finish of this slider silent?

Sorry....I hadn't see your queue was full...
Thank you very much~I'll give you 1kd~
my english is bad...XD..

offset:10853 变更必须Resnap all notes！
[Insane]
音效做的不行，再下点心
00:10:654 (3) - 这note下的不好。我试着放了下，觉照这样放置会比较好

00:10:827 - 这里应该有个note
00:38:412 (8) - remove new combo
00:44:447 (1) - ^
01:01:861 (8) - new combo
01:03:240 (1) - remove newcombo
01:13:068 (4) - new combo
01:18:413 (4) - ^
01:23:930 (5) - ^
00:43:240 (3) - 距离和后面一样，放远些
01:04:620 (7) - new combo
01:24:275 (6) - 没人能意识到这是个1/4note，必须改
01:25:309 (1) - spinner的开始和结束位置请做出修改
[fanzhen's Insane]
用n-hitnormal的连打还是用s-whistle比较好

感谢~
很有价值的MOD~
KD~

Lec being with the General stuff before doing anything else...

General:
Change title to have capital letter on the start of each word in the title (Miyuki Sawashiro - Ambivalent World) and
Better mp3 please... you can use this MP3.

Thanks...i think i fixed the letter...

(If you changing title, full submission.)
mm... ok... Proper mod:

General:
Offset 10 857
BPM 174 002 (Timing Setup Panel) - Yes, it is a very small change ^^'
I would do 0,5 for tick rate or 0

Easy:
Approach Rate: 3, HP Drain Rate: 3 or 4, Overall Difficulty: 3 or 4
0:19:477 - End it at 0:19:822
0:40:511 - End it at 0:40:856
0:44:649 - Move to 0:44:304
0:44:994 - Move to 0:44:649 and repeat
0:55:683 - Move to 0:56:028
0:59:132 - End it at 0:59:649
1:00:511 - End it at 1:01:028
1:03:787 - Move to 1:03:614 please~
1:05:338 - Move to 1:05:166 please~
1:07:580 - Move to 1:07:407

Normal:
0:19:447 - End it at 0:19:792
0:23:068 - Too hard for normal, make it a circle or remove
0:29:275 - Remove circle, copy the slider at 0:28:068 to 0:29:102 and turn it vertically, then repeat it
0:47:895 - Too random, remove
0:48:068 - New combo
0:51:861 - Random, remove pls~
0:57:551 - Maybe New Combo
1:05:223 - Move 1/2 tick before, end it at 1:05:654

fanzhen is a guest mapper? I can't see his nickname in Tags.

Preview Points aren't set,please,add them to all diffs at 00:47:982.

Kiai times are so different,it'd be better if you keep it the same in all difficulties.And start it from 00:48:068.

And..in the title..is there shouldn't be a space between World and (TV Size)?

[Easy]
00:19:447 (5) - Finish it at 00:19:620.
00:20:999 - Add a note?
00:21:171 - Remove this one and add a single note to 00:21:516?
00:21:861 (1) - Change to finish.
00:42:551 (2) - Clap sounds bad.
00:46:689 - ^
00:48:068 (2) - ^
01:04:620 (3) - ^
01:10:137 (1) - ^
At first it wasn' really bad,but then..ugh..you don't follow any rhytm.
It's so random.Sometimes I need to wait like 3 seconds for a single hit and sometimes there're some hard patterns like 00:52:206 (1,2,3,1).
Map should be common,please,try to keep some rhytm next time,and about hitsounds - they're too loud,reduce volume.
Claps doesn't fit this song at all.You need to use whistles,add more of them.

[Normal]
Again,claps.Remove them.
And volume too,also add more whistles.
00:56:344 (9,10) - Move both of them to the previous red ticks(00:56:171,00:56:516)
Don't have to much to say,again,I can see a lot of spaces during the map,you could map them too.

[Hard]
What's with OD? Why it's on the lowest tick?
00:30:137 (1,1,1) - Combo spam,remove.
1/4 doesn't really fit this song..and again these claps..argh.

[fanzhen]
00:32:895 (1) - Finish?
00:38:413 (1) - ^
00:41:171 - ^
00:42:551 (1) - ^
00:48:068 (1) - ^
01:04:620 (1) - ^
01:09:878 (x) - Too loud for normal hitsounds.
01:20:482 (1,1,1) - Combo spamming.
Nice difficulty.

[Insane]
Uh,okay.

Sorry for poor mod,but your difficulties need a lot of more work.

i had fixed the map~thanks~
kd~

Hello 6800cube ^^

[General]

Preview Point ~ installed on all the diff ~ here 00:48:068

images must be the same size ! in this case 1024x768

Tags : add fanzhen ?

everywhere to do the same time Kiai

00:48:068 - start kiai and finish kiai 01:18:413

[Easy]

00:22:551 (1) - delete new combo

00:28:068 (3) - new combo

00:49:447 (3) - ^

00:52:206 (6) - ^

01:12:551 (4) - ^

[Normal]

00:19:447 (5) - finish on the white tick

00:45:309 (7) - delete. and start spinner

00:49:102 (5) - new combo

00:51:171 (11) - ^

00:51:861 (1) - delete new combo

00:57:551 (11) - new combo

thanks and kd~

Hi, here some Mods:

[Easy]
#The hitsounds are too loud. Try lowering the volume by 3 or 4.
#You are not using different hitsounds to give the player a rythm to follow. (e.g. beat-beat-clap-beat-beat-clap-...). As it is now, the map is not (much) fun to play.
#No preview point set.
#You should place Kiai for special parts in a song (e.g. chorus) and have a nice rythm to follow in there. I always say: The Kiai is the party button. When it starts it has to bee kick-ass. Please rethink your Kiai time + notes & rythm within.

- 00:47:464 ~ Is this Kiai start wanted? It's in the middle of the slider ö,ö
- 01:07:551 ~ I don't like this. Sounds wrong somehow.

[Normal]
#The hitsounds are too loud. Try lowering the volume by 3 or 4.
#You are not using different hitsounds to give the player a rythm to follow. (e.g. beat-beat-clap-beat-beat-clap-...). As it is now, the map is not (much) fun to play.
#No preview point set.
#Note placement is a little better here within Kiai. But it lacks hitsounds

- 00:19:997 ~ (5) Slider ends on red tick
- 00:54:964 ~ (5) new combo
- 00:56:689~ (10) new combo
- 01:03:240 ~ (1,2,3,4) this part of the combo is too slow. Place some more notes.

[Hard]
#The hitsounds are too loud. Try lowering the volume by 3 or 4.
#You are not using different hitsounds. Please use them.
#HP Drain and OA-Diff can be set higher. Like +2 or +3 at least. It should be "Hard" right?^^

- 00:43:930 ~ (1,2,3,4,5,6) Everything in that place ? ._. Doesn't look good in my opinion.
- 01:00:482 ~ (5) new combo

[Insane]
#The hitsounds are too loud. Try lowering the volume by 3 or 4.
#A lot of claps, mostly misplaced (no rythm). Please rearrange those.
#No preview point set.
#A lot of other modders told me you shouldn't place notes before your offset. If you want the notes to be before the actual offset, set the offset earlier (before the first note).

- 01:01:516 ~ (7) place exactly under 6 (down 1 grid)
- 01:13:758 ~ Why'd you put a break here? Continue the stream you started at, don't end it in its middle ö,ö !


Also, for all maps, think about mapping the break. It'd be better without a break.

Have a star^^*

thanks~
already fixed all problems above that~

很紧张的曲子呢~值得一试。

[general].
offset is 5330; it's best to keep the offset as early as possible. Otherwise, +20 offset.
set a preview point to the same for all maps. I don't like how it sounds at 3500.
crop your backgrounds to 4:3 at the most, try not to get widescreen stuff (though that's not a problem).
your video is absolute crap, and it still has audio. I made you 2 versions: a good one and a crappy one, both of which are infinitely better than the one you have now: http://puu.sh/12oJ

[easy]
00:20:309 (1,2,3) - one of these could be a slider
00:30:654 (5,1) - please be careful with these offbeat things. When possible, use sliders, since they do not require you to be completely accurate.
01:00:481 (1,2) - spacing (you can use AImod to get most of these, press ctrl shift A)

[normal]
00:20:654 (2) - take off one repeat, move the tail so it's not blocking (3)
00:23:068 (4,5) - make these offbeat sliders (start on red tick, go to next red tick), move 6 to red tick before.
00:26:516 - slider here to 00:27:033 -
00:28:068 (1) - http://puu.sh/12oK
00:31:689 (2) - take off one repeat, move the tail so it's not blocking (3)
00:51:171 (1,1,3) - can you think about making long sliders instead of short ones? keep the same beats, but switch which beats are connected to the next one via a slider. 00:52:378 - could be a repeating slider (as an example).
00:58:240 (2,4) - make it 1/2 shorter (red tick) and move (3) back one, and delete (4) its a double note (again AIMod will catch these)
01:03:240 (1,2,3,4) - I like circle slider circle circle circle, but not really the instant sliders. You could leave (3) as well.
01:07:033 (3,4) - again, circle slider
01:07:723 - why no notes?
01:12:895 - ^

[hard]
00:18:068 (4) - if you HAVE to put something on this beat, make it the end of a slider please. Otherwise delete it.
00:38:413 (1) - make it 2 sliders
00:39:792 (1) - ^
00:43:930 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I really like this, even if it is a little confusing
00:46:689 - This is the correct rhythm here, but as it's difficult to read I would suggest replacing the 1/6ths with straight 1/4ths. http://puu.sh/12p8 Normally I'm a nazi about mapping to the beat, but 6th drum rolls simply sound bad, and every normal person would assume these are sets of 3, not 4.
00:49:964 (1,2) - This is kiai time/chorus. Time to map the beat, not the lyrics.
01:10:913 (6,11) - overmapped.
01:13:758 (5) - if you HAVE to put something on this beat, make it the end of a slider please. Otherwise delete it.
01:16:171 (2) - if you have to map the lyrics, do it right. This should be on the next blue tick. Otherwise, keep mapping the beat.
01:16:602 (4) - overmapped
01:18:413 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - There should be nine beats in this, so make the spinner start right after the 9th. Make the pattern so that 1,2,3 are in a line or just make 3 repeating sliders.
01:24:016 (2,3) - overmapped. Move these somewhere before (1).
01:26:689 - end slider here.

[world]
00:16:602 (9) - overmapped
00:20:740 (3) - ^
00:26:947 (7) - ^ but I could approve of this one because of the lyrics there.
00:32:292 (4) - overmapped
00:38:327 - add a note
00:51:689 (3,4) - overmapped
01:00:654 (4,5) - ^
01:09:620 (8,9,10,11,12) - I don't like the slider, and the finish needs to be on 12, not 9. 01:09:275 - make this a slider into 8 and map the 5 drum beats properly.

[insane]
I don't like this map very much, so very few "fixes" and more general stuff.
You've got a lot of long sliders. Slider tick rate 2 then.
00:05:137 (1) - delete
00:09:275 (7) - what a waste. map either the solo guitar or the rhythm guitar/drums. If you do the rhythm/drums, then make them jumps
00:12:206 (5,6,7) - don't put claps on red ticks. Try to follow a clapping pattern putting them on beats 2 and 4 (beats x:1 and x:3 if you look at the "timing" tab). Use whistles if you want to put something on red ticks.
00:17:120 (2) - practically every single on of the triples you did in this map is overmapped.
00:24:447 (8) - normally, you shouldn't start a slider on a red tick, and certainly shouldn't have a repeated selection of offbeat sliders, but this map is just full of exceptions. (8) however needs to be a circle circle. It's almost never a good idea to slide over or onto the downbeat (beat 1, beat x:0 in the "timing" tab).
00:38:154 (6) - this one is just funny to point out because you can move it 1/4th before or after and it won't be overmapped (so you can safely put a triple on either of those beats, just not this one).
01:04:620 (11) - I doubt this slider is rankable
01:23:930 (1) - generally if you do something in hard, you won't replace it with something easier in insane.

good job on everything except insane. Since the guest diff is insane enough, you get my star.

IceBeam wrote:

[fanzhen]
00:32:895 (1) - Finish? added thx4 ur sound modding
00:38:413 (1) - ^ ^
00:41:171 - ^ ^
00:42:551 (1) - ^ ^
00:48:068 (1) - ^ ^
01:04:620 (1) - ^ ^
01:09:878 (x) - Too loud for normal hitsounds. changed
01:20:482 (1,1,1) - Combo spamming. changed
Nice difficulty. oh,thank u it's my 2nd map xD

redownl plz :3

Download: Sawashiro Miyuki - Ambivalent World(TV Size) (6800cube) [fanzhen's Insane].osu

Uh, your mp3 is bad.
The beginning part is cropped.

Please get a better mp3.
There's many on the web.

I will mod until then.

~~

Oops it's "world"
I'll change the diffname when I have time

加油~

ya o/

[Easy]
00:20:999 (2,3,1) - spacing
01:00:137 (2) - x:208 y:296
01:04:620 (5) - New combo
01:18:413 (1) - end 01:21:171 add finish

[Normal]
00:21:861 (1) - add finish
00:27:378 (5) - ^
00:32:895 add note?
00:40:482 (1,2) - how? http://puu.sh/1aWH
00:41:171 (1,2,3,5) - add finish
00:56:344 (1) - Remove new combo
00:58:930 (4) - o_0!?
01:18:413 (1) - Easy diff again

[Hard]
00:21:861 (1) - add finish
00:31:516 (1) - end 00:32:551 add finish
00:48:068 ~ 00:48:413 abit kiaitime...lol
00:48:068 (1) - add finish
00:54:447 (1) - Remove new combo
00:59:102 (1) - add finish
01:01:861 (1,2,3) - spacing
01:05:482 (1) - Remove new combo
01:10:137 (1) - add finish
01:11:171 (8) - new combo
01:14:275 (8) - ^
01:18:413 (1,4,7) - add finish and whistle
01:21:171 (1) - add finish
01:24:964 (1) - start 01:24:620 end 01:26:689 add finish.Remove clap

[fanzhen's World]
00:16:344 (7) - add finish
00:20:309 (1,5) - ^ first slider (00:20:309 and 00:20:999)
00:46:689 (1,5) - Remove clap
00:56:344 (1) - ^
00:57:723 (1,2,3,4) - how? http://puu.sh/1aXi
01:10:482 (1,3,1) - add clap
01:19:447 (7) - new combo?

[Insane]
Irregular many claps o_0
00:09:275 (7) - plz slider end 00:09:620
00:10:999 (4) - Remove. then,00:10:826 add note
00:38:068 (5,6) - how?fit music http://puu.sh/1aXw
00:38:413 (8) - add finish
00:48:068 (1) - ^ first slider
00:58:930 (6) - New combo
01:03:758 (8) - ^
01:08:585 (4,7) - add finish(01:08:758 and 01:09:275)
01:13:930 (1) - supin end 01:15:309
01:18:413 (1,3,5) - add finish first slider
01:19:878 add timing line.then,30 ~ 40 volume plz.
01:23:930 (1,2,3) - add finish
01:24:620 (1) - Remove clap

starr~

thank Val~~~
i will fix them
hope you like this map~~
(but my english is bad... XD)

6800cube wrote:

thank Val~~~
i will fix them
hope you like this map~~
(but my english is bad... XD)

if you will fix them,then give kudosu to that guy.
Star

val0108 wrote:

[fanzhen's World]
00:16:344 (7) - add finish done
00:20:309 (1,5) - ^ first slider (00:20:309 and 00:20:999) better XD
00:46:689 (1,5) - Remove clap done
00:56:344 (1) - ^ ^
00:57:723 (1,2,3,4) - how? http://puu.sh/1aXi
01:10:482 (1,3,1) - add clap done+3
01:19:447 (7) - new combo? done

thanks for ur modding

Download: Sawashiro Miyuki - Ambivalent World (TV Size) (6800cube) [fanzhen's World].osu

Kd~

star!

Sorry late.
I mod your other beatmap.
So this one, Just got my star

Thanks.Here is the kd~

Thanks.Here is the kd~

ThunderMod

Some suggestions

<<Easy>>

00:40:482 (4,1) - swap new combo?
00:57:550 (6) - new combo?
00:58:240 (7) - align with the end of 6?


<<Hard>>

If it's not enteded, put a kiai section here (like in Easy)


<<Fanzen's World>>

00:56:128 - note here?



Rest seems fine. *'ed

Still in the army?thank you!here is the kd~

do not give kds to someone who just star your map
if you give away your kds , plz ensure that guy offer you some tips or suggestions
as far as I can see , "Kochiya Sanae" has moded your map , if you accepted his/her suggestions , plz give kudosu to that guy
ziin is same as Kochiya Sanae
had something wrong with kds so far
anyway , plz be attention

Moefu wrote:

do not give kds to someone who just star your map
别把你的kds给对你map没有帮助的人
if you give away your kds , plz ensure that guy offer you some tips or suggestions
如果你要给kds 请确定那个人给了你的map一些帮助
as far as I can see , "Kochiya Sanae" has moded your map , if you accepted his/her suggestions , plz give kudosu to that guy
就我看到的情况 Kochiya Sanae mod了这张map 如果你接受他的建议 请给他kds
ziin is same as Kochiya Sanae
ziin和Kochiya Sanae一样
had something wrong with kds so far
现在你给出的kds有一些问题(你给了一些只给你star而没给你建议的人kds)
anyway , plz be attention
请务必注意

P.S 回复别人的post可以 但不用每句话都说here is the kd 会让人觉得他们是为了kd才来给你看map

I see.Thank you~

Hi~
Really sorry for the late mod, I was busy for the past 2 days...
Nway, I had a go with two of your maps, and here's my say for them:

Your maps feel nice in overall, so a star for you~
All the best with your maps!

THANK YOU VERY MUCH~~~

[General]
- A better background could be used; this one might be considered offensive.
- Preview points not set for maps.

[Easy]
- 00:45:309 (1) - this slider might be a little too short for an easy
- HP Drain Rate -1; it's fine as is for people who are experienced, but not new players.

[Normal]
- 00:48:068 (1) - Spacing a bit off
- 01:03:240 (1,2,3,4) - ^

[Hard]
- No problems

[fanzhen's World]
- Nothing

[Insane]
- Stay awau from such box-y patterns in insanes, is all I can say. It was good otherwise.

Star~

横平竖直我自重Orz

had fix all questions . thanks~

音量我建议你和fanzhen那个DIFF一致，现在的太弱

clap超乱，也建议和fanzhen的diff同一种方法去加……适当用用Normal也不错

然后fanzhen那个diff里00:53:585 (1) 我不太喜欢因为用了超长的slider而没法加clap这种情况。

star

I see nothing much to change with your map now. All seem good. But after reading all the comment/modding in your map, no one mention/ask where do you got the hitcircle.Mark my word: If it somebody else property, ask permission from the original mapper and give credit to him. You dont want your map unranked just because 1 small matter.

I said like that because I saw similar hitcircle/hitcircle overlay beforehand in somebody's map

Remember now, it from Kanpakyin's map :

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/23640

oh, thanks!
i think that i also need fix many problem what you said in where got the hitcircle.thank for this advice.

Nomal:
00:22:088 (3,4)放到2的结束点一起，这个的迷惑性太大了，实在不好掌握节奏
00:24:157（5）的结束时间点可以考虑放在歌词的结束音那里
00:30:019（3）这个节奏有点奇怪
00:33:123（3,4）同第一条
00:41:054（1）同觉得节奏奇怪
00:52:950（1，2，3）排版有点不美观的感觉
01:06:471（6）这个放在5的结束点会不会好点？
01:17:433（3）这个的音效感觉有点突兀。。。

star

star~~

你好

[General]
- Tags移除6800cube(你不需要在tags放你自己的名字), op 3 (無意義的tags, 沒人會用op 3去蒐)
- 你如果在hitcircle使用自訂skin, 則必須要有approachcircle.png (複製default skin的都行)
- hitsound也太少了吧? 你可以放小聲的音效沒關係啊, 都沒音效打起來好空
- 嗯? 我原本以為Easy下的第二條紅線是後面有timing off, 怎麼其他所有難度都沒那條紅線啊
- 各難度中最後那條綠線到底做什麼用的?

[Easy]
<00:21:744> (2) spacing error
<00:23:295> (1) 移除finish
<00:32:778> (2) spacing error
<00:46:054> (S) end at <00:47:433>, add finish
<00:48:068> (1,2) clap, clap, finish. KIAI下在紅線上, 原本的綠線砍掉
<01:02:895> 這三條白線上居然沒東西打?
<01:08:757> add a note
<01:10:826> (2,1,2) spacing error
<01:18:240> 突兀的clap

[Normal]
- Slider tick rate改0.5, 太多超醜的白點了
<00:21:399> (2) 少repeat一次, 改往左下長, 調整spacing 較符合你的難度
<00:32:433> (2) ^
<00:48:468> (1) 要嘛兩個都clap, 要嘛拿掉clap, <00:48:813> 下finish
<00:49:330> (2) 移到 <00:49:502>
<01:08:468..> 喂這個留白也太大了吧!?
<01:13:640..> ^

[Hard]
- 建議這難度的三連打都重疊, 因為你的spacing太小, 不好看, 五連打則不必疊
<00:22:692> (1) 移到白線
<00:31:916> 下note
<00:52:261> 下note
<00:52:606> 下note
<01:23:813> (3,4) 覺得不太好看

[fanzhen's World]
- 有BPM174的串, 拒絕mod

[Insane]
<00:09:330> (5) 奇怪的clap? 後面的白線下note
- hitsound太讓我無言了...聽rank那張圖的理解一下吧
<00:52:433> (8) endpoint placement error
<01:00:192> 下note
<01:18:640> 下note

no star now, you can ask for recheck

[Easy]
Delete Red Timing section, Resnap and control
00:33:295 - 00:39:157 : Map this part
00:48:068 (1) - Move to 00:47:950 (1) and make it end to 00:48:640 with a Clap.
00:48:757 (2) - Move to 00:48:813 (2)
[Normal]
00:33:295 - 00:39:157 : Map this part
01:02:605 (8) - 01:03:985 (1) -^
01:08:295 (4) - 01:10:881 (1) -^
01:13:295 (6) - 01:16:399 (1) -^
01:27:088 (1) - Make it start at 01:27:175 (1) - and end in 01:27:433.

will continue later

has already fix all problem except hitsounds.

i will change sounds after...

174bpm-stream Orz
大于五连=串? o.o?

fanzhen0019 wrote:

174bpm-stream Orz
大于五连=串? o.o?

你好, 我在modding queue有說明我是單指玩家, 所以174連續的三連或五連對我來說都是不太好按的, 所以我不mod這種圖, 因為你是做Guest Diff可能沒看到, 你的Guest Diff不錯, 不用擔心, 我在edit大概跑過一次

6800cube wrote:

打扰了...第一次做图不是很会处理音效.....
能不能给我RECHEAK一下？谢谢~

回應你的request, 這篇主要針對你的Insane說明我的看法 (since Insane顯然最多note所以有最多拍點上能做hitsound arrangement的一個難度).

EDIT: 記得在所有難度的tags加入guest diff作者的名字

首先請你大概瞭解三種 hitsound 的用途:
clap - 這是一種很明顯的音效, 用來做你的節拍 (舉例來說, 每四拍的第二拍放clap)
whistle - 通常用來 1- 標注高音或重要的note; 2- 給stream音效結構(ex. xxw xxwxwxwwf), 因為stream中用其他音效較吵 3- 取代clap當作標注節拍的音效 - softwhistle (慢歌或抒情歌中clap較不適合)
finish - 通常(default設定中也是)是最明顯的音效或很有特色(通常在custom hitsound)的音效, 當作一個段落的起拍和最後一拍, 或用來標注vocal唱重的音, 或想製造echo用的note(大多finish有echo)

現在來看看 insane 吧, 你的前9秒 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,6) 建立了一個每兩條白線一個 clap 的節奏pattern, 但是這個pattern到了 <00:10:019> 突然變了樣子, 就屬於比較不好的 hitsound arrangement, 所以我們在<00:09:847>和<00:10:537>加note並且把(8)結尾的clap拔掉聽聽看, 發現<00:09:847>有clap不賴, <00:10:537>不太好, 所以砍掉, 接著往後聽發現<00:11:571>上有個clap很不對勁 (往前看一下pattern會發現這條白線屬於即使pattern延伸過來也不會有clap的), 你把<00:11:226>下個clap note(這是照規矩延伸過來該有clap的白線 - 實際上這邊可下可不下,你聽過後自行決定) 並且把<00:11:571>改下finish, 發現 oh! perfect!

再來看看<00:18:468> (5)這條slider吧, slider上那個白點是該有clap的, 但是他在slider中卻沒辦法下clap, 連帶著影響了你後面的clap (如果說原本的clap都在奇數白線上, (6)-(12)就變成在偶數了, 所以比較奇怪), 一個簡單的方法當然就是改這條slider, 不過你也能硬是照規矩把clap下在 (8)(10)起點(12)結尾, 其他都砍掉, 接著聽一遍覺得 (5)(6)(7)好空啊, 都沒音效, 沒關係, 別忘了我們還有whistle, 在(5)的起頭和(6)上面下whistle後聽起來就不那麼空了, 皆大歡喜

再來看看<00:23:295> (1)這串, 為什麼這串的clap聽起來這麼奇怪? 因為你的上一串combo結束時下了一個finish在 (6), 此外呢背景的drum也是 鏘(這是那個finish) 咚 帕 咚咚帕 咚 帕 咚咚帕, 因此你應該把clap下在對應那個finish的偶數白線上(背景鼓聲的帕 - 咚是一種低沉的音效, 帕是明亮, 所以你原本把clap下在低沉的咚上自然就奇怪了), 聽起來就會好多了

中間一些可以用到上面的觀念改了就不附了, 請自行理解和處理

再來看看<00:37:606> 這串的(8)明明是個理想的 finish 位置呀, 為什麼聽起來不太對呢? 兩個原因, 一個是這串combo實在太少hitsound了, 而finish算是比較明顯的一個音效, 所以在一串安靜的combo中會特別突兀, 第二是你的clap下錯了地方 (無法理解), 把 clap 移到 (2)的起頭和(6)上面後同時修正了兩個問題, 那個finish也顯得好多了

再來看看<00:40:536>起頭的clap, <00:42:606>(4)的clap, <00:43:985>(3)的clap, 我明明是用一樣的道理去下clap的呀, 為什麼前兩個聽起來怪怪的, 第三個聽起來卻還好呢, 這比較tricky, 因為答案是在 <00:43:985> (3) 後面有 (4,5,6) 能打的關係, 而前兩個clap後面是個slider, 無法用 "雖然不是clap的note" 讓玩家感受到節奏感, 這解決方法很多種, 所以留給你發揮

後面聽到完沒有什麼新東西能講了, 上面5段文章我想夠你擺音效用了, 加油吧

you get a star now.

純給star的就不要給kudosu了...

否則整串文一堆deny kudosu也會影響MAT/BAT對這個mapper的觀感 至少我是這樣認為...

加油

(No kd this post)

rechecking Easy+Normal
countinuing previous mod

[General]
Use this Custom Hitsound soft-hitclap:C1

[Easy]
01:03:123 (4,5) - Spacing

[Normal]
01:12:950 (5) - Move to 01:13:123 (5) -
01:13:468 (x) - Add Hit Circle
01:13:985 (x) - ^
01:14:157 (x) - ^

[Hard]
map between 00:32:261 (1) and 00:39:157 (1) -
00:47:778 (4,5) - don't jump between a note(49 and a longer stream (5)-(9) in hard

[Insane]
hitsounds feel a bit random..

loveFantasy:
感谢!没想到会写得这么详细,对我很有帮助!谢谢啦~
a0178042:
多谢捧场~~
HakuNoKaemi:
thanks for mod~~

Had fixed all problems,thanks for their mod~~

You're lucky that I get to mod this as one slot in my queue freed up...


Insane
Super-long hitsound mod. I'd be super-happy if you did all of this.

Check the rest of the sounds yourself, make sure there are no 2 hitsounds on one beat.

Fanzhen
00:33:640 (1) - the clap hitsound pattern here changes from 2/1 to 1/1, so add clap on every white tick until 00:41:916 -

00:37:778 - add note
00:44:675 (5) - Add New combo, add finish
00:45:192 (3) - add finish
00:45:537 (4) - add clap
00:45:709 (5) - remove clap, add finish
01:11:226 (1,3,1) - add claps D:

Hard, Normal, Easy
Do the same stuff with the hitsounds as in Insane.

Besides the Hitsounds in every diff except fanzhen's... OK map... I guess.

HI
You post in my Mod4Mod que.So remember mod my map.
Here is my Mod4Mod of http://osu.ppy.sh/s/27700

[General]
Hitclap should be continuous. You can use a slidertick.wav
Cut the video's sound
I'm not sure are there any story boards,if not delete the *.osb files

[Easy]
00:21:054 (1,2) - change to slider repeat
00:45:364 (3) - ctrl+h
00:46:054 (1) - too short for an Easy
01:14:675 (1) - ^
00:58:295 (1) - end at 00:58:640

[Normal]
00:14:675 (4,1) - don't jump
00:17:433 (4,1) - ^
00:53:813 (3,1) - ^
00:23:295 (1,2,3,4) - change to sliders
00:29:502 (2) - delete and add a slider form 00:29:330 to 00:29:675
00:37:606 (1) - short
00:39:157 (1,2,3,4) - unreadble
01:13:123 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - change to two 1/2 repeat sliders
01:16:399 (1) - ctrl+2 1 gird left

[Hard]
Distance spacing should be more than 1.0x
00:32:261 (1) - start at 00:32:088
00:38:640 (1,2,3,4) - don't overlap
00:44:330 - add a circle?
00:47:433 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - >_>
01:11:657 (6) - delete it
01:12:347 (4) - ^

[fanzhen's World]
00:34:847 (6,7,8,9,10,11) - >_>
00:37:778 - add a circle?
01:21:916 - ^
00:47:433 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - do like this
[Insane]
Distance spacing should be more than 1.2x
00:45:278 (5) - delete it
01:05:364 (4,5,6) - ugly and unreadble

Good map
Star~

wcx19911123 wrote:

HI
You post in my Mod4Mod que.So remember mod my map.
Here is my Mod4Mod of http://osu.ppy.sh/s/27700

[General]
Hitclap should be continuous. You can use a slidertick.wav
Cut the video's sound
I'm not sure are there any story boards,if not delete the *.osb files

[Easy]
00:21:054 (1,2) - change to slider repeat
00:45:364 (3) - ctrl+h
00:46:054 (1) - too short for an Easy
01:14:675 (1) - ^
00:58:295 (1) - end at 00:58:640

[Normal]
00:14:675 (4,1) - don't jump
00:17:433 (4,1) - ^
00:53:813 (3,1) - ^
00:23:295 (1,2,3,4) - change to sliders
00:29:502 (2) - delete and add a slider form 00:29:330 to 00:29:675
00:37:606 (1) - short
00:39:157 (1,2,3,4) - unreadble
01:13:123 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - change to two 1/2 repeat sliders
01:16:399 (1) - ctrl+2 1 gird left

[Hard]
Distance spacing should be more than 1.0x
00:32:261 (1) - start at 00:32:088
00:38:640 (1,2,3,4) - don't overlap
00:44:330 - add a circle?
00:47:433 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - >_>
01:11:657 (6) - delete it
01:12:347 (4) - ^

[fanzhen's World]
00:34:847 (6,7,8,9,10,11) - >_>
00:37:778 - add a circle?
01:21:916 - ^
00:47:433 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - do like this

SPOILER

[Insane]
Distance spacing should be more than 1.2x
00:45:278 (5) - delete it
01:05:364 (4,5,6) - ugly and unreadble

Good map
Star~

过奖了,其实我这个MAP还有很多不足~~
这几天忙,能否能等周末?我一定MOD
谢啦~

General
The offset makes no sense. Since you map to the lyrics more than the beat, set it to 12,257 (The real offset is 533 or similar, but whatever)
Meh
00:48:813 - Move kiai start to here.
Move the preview point of all maps to something more interesting.

Easy
Simplistic and boring, but oh well.

Normal
AR+1
Increase slider velocity to 1 and re-snap all sliders.
01:27:088 (1) - Change this into a repeat 1/4th slider starting on the blue tick for 3 repeats (ending on white tick) or remove entirely.

Hard
00:41:916 (1,1,1) - Don't do these spinners.

fanzhen's
Nothing to say.

Insane
01:01:226 (1,2,3,4,5) - This pentagon could use some work.
01:05:364 (4) - Sliders are not allowed to go directly over themselves.

Sorry for the tardiness of this post.

Easy:

01:14:718 (3) - Why is this slider randomly an eighth beat after the half-beat divide? This should start on 01:14:675 and end on either 01:15:537 or 01:15:709, though I prefer the latter.

01:16:054- Add a note?

Normal:

What's with the random spacing that varies from 0.8x to 0.9x, sometimes hitting 1.0x?
For example, while 00:35:537 (1,2,3,4,5) has 0.9x spacing, 00:44:674 (3,4,5,6) uses 0.8x spacing. And then randomly 00:22:261 (3) and 00:34:675 (2) are 1.0x away from the previous note.
This is especially jarring when they are used back to back- for instance, 00:37:606 (6) seems too close to (5) just because it uses 0.8 while right before it was 0.9.

I'd advise you to stick to one of them- it seems like most streams use 0.8x so just standardize it that way. I'll post noticeable 0.9x below:

Hard:
00:59:847 (1) - Delete and start (2) one repeat earlier? Because (1,2) are part of the same word being spoken.

01:10:881 (1) to 01:12:778 (6) - This stream is comboed and hitsounded weirdly. According to the beat, these twelve notes are not two streams of six but rather three streams of four. As such, combo colors should go (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4). The finish should go on each (1). To keep things consistent it'd make more sense for the 01:10:881 (1) to be put on top of 01:11:054 (2), so it is similar to the other two streams following it.

World, Insane:
Nothing found. Both are pretty fun.

Finally, star!

good map but also need more mod....

[General]
Re-submit please, the website has an old osz loaded.
00:48:813 Kiai should start here imo
2 osb files, please delete one of them (or both)
Previewtime is different throughout the difficulties, please decide which preview time you want and set it to that on all diffs.
The mp3 quality is bad IMO .. I could only find the full ver of the song, I asked happy30 for help; perhaps he will post a better one soon.
Maybe pick some combo colors?

[Normal]
00:24:157 (2) - correct the spacing
01:16:399 (1) - ^

[Hard]
01:08:812 (1) - Remove new combo

Overall I have to say that you didn't put enough love into the Easy and Normal difficulty which makes it appear as if its speed-mapped just for the purpose of being there.
The mapset is fine though.
Have a star

mp3: http://puu.sh/1pDV

Here we go (You posted in a mod4mod queue so please mod one of my beatmaps too! Choices are in my signature/profile/whatever.)

[General]
Your difficulty spread is poor. I've created a visual to demonstrate, click the spoiler tag to see it:
You want it (optimally) to look something more like the visual in this other spoiler tag:
So please do something to make the difficulties slightly more balanced.

[Easy]
- This difficulty felt a bit boring to me but I guess it's just [Easy]. Extend it to the point where all the other diffs end.
00:55:675 (3) - New combo?
01:06:365 (3) - ^
[Normal]
- Please make this difficulty more readable by either changing the distance snap or circle size. Everything is all mushed together right now.
00:14:641 (4) - For a Normal, don't put notes under sliders.
00:17:399 (4) - ^
00:28:779 (6) - New combo
00:36:365 (3) - Note under slider
00:40:503 (4) - ^
00:44:641 (3) - New combo
00:49:813 (1) - Remove NC?
00:50:158 (2) - New combo?
00:51:537 (6) - New combo?
00:55:675 (5,1) - Swap new combos?
00:59:641 (3) - Remove note
01:01:192 (4) - New combo?
01:02:572 (8) - New combo?
01:06:537 (6) - Note under slider
01:09:296 (5) - New combo
01:11:882 (3) - Note under slider
01:13:089 (5) - New combo?
[Hard]
- Optimally, you want to bump this down to a Hard (it's actually an Insane right now) to make a better difficulty spread.
00:32:054 (1) - I feel like this spinner could be replaced with notes.
00:38:606 (1,2,3) - Remove (2), this doesn't need to be here
00:41:882 (1) - This spinner is rankable but still a little short.
00:43:261 (1) - ^
00:47:399 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - At this point you're mapping what is basically silence so consider changing it.
00:52:916 (1) - I don't like this slider shape, but that's just personal preference.
00:53:606 (3) - ^... in fact, have you looked at the delicious slider guide? It has lots of helpful tips to making your sliders more visually appealing.
00:56:020 (1,2,3) - Remove (2), this doesn't need to be here
01:17:313 (4) - Remove.
01:24:727 (2) - ^
[fanzhen's World]
- Try dropping the Circle Size by 1? These giant circles don't work as well on an Insane diff. And MAYBE extend to the length of the others.
00:13:606 (6) - Remove overlap?
00:20:503 (10) - Move back 1/2 tick
00:38:434 (7,8,9,10) - Whoa, really confusing to read pattern here.
[Insane]
- Use the original BG here, fanzhen should be the only one with the creepy dude BG. Add one tick to the Approach Rate for this too.
00:14:123 (8) - New combo?
00:14:985 (10,11,12,1,2,3) - A little confusing to read with AR7.
00:25:158 (8) - Extend by 1/2 tick.
00:34:985 (6) - This is a little ugly but ok
01:05:330 (4) - This slider is so warped it is verging on unrankable.
01:06:710 (6) - Get rid of this note...

That's all. No star from me for now. If you'd like one, fix at least the issue marked in red before asking for a re-check, and please at least consider any suggestion not ending with a question mark.