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Xi-on - Fall of Fall ~ Autumnal Waterfall

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Sallad4ever
2,933 posts
Joined October 2009
Sallad4ever
Halo Art-FzTT :)

[General]
Delete touhou in tags cause it's already on source
Well because this is still in WIP so I guess you still don't put any Kiai
I suggest you put first kiai in 01:11:728 until 01:23:436 and the second kiai in 02:45:387 until 03:08:802. You can use your own idea of course just don't abuse it

[Easy]
Kinda long for an easy imo, maybe shorten it until 01:23:436 ?
The breaks are kinda inconsistent, there's a break in 00:24:716, but then the same place in 02:12:094 is mapped, makes me kinda confuse
03:54:899 (1) - better put this in the previous red tick or use a spinner, either way you really should use fade out on them

[Hard]
You really don't need those multiple offsets, better delete those. Then don't forget to re-snap all notes
The light red and dark red combo colors is similar try changing them
00:08:619 (2) - this jump is too sudden and out of place
02:08:619 (3) - spacing problem
02:17:948 (2) - ^
03:08:253 (2) - this slider is confusing. I don't know where is the direction it'll go
03:29:655 (1) - move it backward to 03:29:289 then lengthen it too 03:32:216

[Insane]
There are some unintuitive spacing, like this one 00:19:228 (2,3,4,5,6,7), the space is to similar with stream it's very confusing >.<
The spacing change is kinda hard too follow, well for me it is :o

Good luck with your map :D
Star

Also Please give kudosu for those mod post :o
Thunderstorm
437 posts
Joined May 2009
Thunderstorm
Greetings
Sorry for takin' so long
Requested mod session go

General
Offset +18 ms?

[Easy]
Plays more like Normal
I suggest to rename it, or shorten it

[Hard]
03:08:252 (2) - don't overlap sliders, it's unranked option
03:11:362 (4,5,6,7) - it must be kinda 1/8 earlier. Recheck offset of following timing section

[Insane]
16.8kk is over the ranking limits. Try to find a way to solve it (~14.5kk must be enough i think)
Ok, it's insane, but don't change spacing mid-combo. If you want to space jump, just "new combo" it.
Recheck whole the map, spacing in ~60% of it is confusing
Art-FzTT
119 posts
Joined February 2010
Topic Starter
Art-FzTT
i really like to give kudos but i dont have any =(
its my first map and a new player (noob) here sorry bout that T.T

i make some changes .. n read all the comments about some parts .. i dont like same breaks on same parts if i have 2 or more parts with the same rythm i wanna use at least 1 =) and the spacing .. gonna take a looong time to fix :D

ty =)
Leorda
4,416 posts
Joined June 2009
Leorda

Art-FzTT wrote:

i really like to give kudos but i dont have any =(
You don't need have a kudosu to give a kudosu to modder. However, if you give kudosu, the amount of kudosu won't be decrease. So you don't need a kudosu to give the kudosu if the mod was helpful. Now click the "Give Kudosu" under the avatar, but don't click "Shoot the kudosu" in the Star Priority
Eirene
577 posts
Joined December 2008
Eirene
[Insane] :
I feel that the difficulty is overmapped *.*
01:52:704 (8) - remove clap ?
02:28:558 (3) - ^
02:39:899 (5) - really odd to play. make this finished on the previous white tick ?
03:08:802 - you might remap this part with 0.5x timing and make it calmer :3
with 03:17:216 - 1.0x here and 03:20:509 - kiai here
(03:13:558 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - really overmapped imo )

[Hard] :
00:39:533 (6) - o.o a bit limit ... you should let a little margin
01:06:424 (2) - ^
01:00:021 (2,1) - new combo on 2, not on 1
01:21:972 (3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5) - 1/3 is really awful
02:07:247 (1) - move without grid and distance snap to be at the same distance of the 2 sliders

[Easy] :
a bit long for an easy ... maybe rename it "Normal" and make a true easy diff ~1:30 long

sorry for the delay...
Gens
osu! Alumni
3,485 posts
Joined August 2008
Gens
Revived!
Flute
68 posts
Joined December 2009
Flute
star~~^^
MeLLoN
202 posts
Joined July 2009
MeLLoN
:)

[General]
offset -40~45?(1445~1440)

[Insane]
there is part not much 2stream ex.01:20:509 (~4) - removed? @w@
01:22:064 (1) - so hard D:

easy Mod sorry, star☆
Art-FzTT
119 posts
Joined February 2010
Topic Starter
Art-FzTT
gonna refix all the distances =) and make it a bit more easy and less "random" jumps ... but not gonna delete it just making more easy to follow =)
Revengexsoyah
652 posts
Joined June 2009
Revengexsoyah
Hola

Sugerencias que puedes seguir :)

~General~
Pues , porque todas las diffies tiene los colores diferentes ? ME GUSTAN LOS COLORES DE EASY como para las 3 diffies ;).


~Easy~

01:00:021 (1,2) : podrias reemplazar eso por un slider , acuerdate qe es easy para los noobs
01:01:667 (1,2) : ^
01:18:863 : porque no lo mueves al lado del final del slider ? :D
02:29:106 : un slider aca mejor ? que termine en 02:29:655 ;)
03:02:948 - 03:04:228 : que hacen esos 2 timings points hay siendo que el mapa ya termino ? :D BORRALOS ;)

~Normal~

00:45:021 : subelo 2 grids (hacia arriba :B)
01:00:021 : agrega new combo
01:00:204 : remueve new combo
01:11:911 (1) : arregla el spacing de esto ponlo mas al lado del slider nose arreglalo esta muy irregular.
02:03:680 (10) : prueba con esto

~Insane~
03:17:200 : new combo
muy buena diffie (Y)


te dejo star por dedicacion , suerte!!
H1ko
367 posts
Joined December 2008
H1ko
Buen mapa
Mesita
221 posts
Joined November 2009
Mesita
(L)
me encanta la cancion y el mapeo. Sigue asi wn!
STAR!!!
taNa
312 posts
Joined January 2009
taNa
nice map~
callita
21 posts
Joined August 2008
callita
Me gustó tu map ~ :)
Dotsu
996 posts
Joined March 2009
Dotsu
~STAR~
IceBeam
osu! Alumni
1,958 posts
Joined December 2009
IceBeam
Hi,sorry for delay.

Remove Touhou from Tags,it's already in Source.

Resize your BG to 800 x 600,if you could.It'd be better.
Also,map is really old,yeah,but still I'm not sure if MP3's bitrate is rankable.
Probably you should re-encode it to 256 kbps at least.

[Easy]
00:12:825 (1) - Remove Finish,it's already in (2).
00:36:058 (1,2) - Increase distance between them,I clicked too early.
00:42:459 (1,2,3,4,5) - Fix distance of this pattern,why it had increased by 2x? Distance should be all the same during whole map,in Easy.
01:02:582 (1,2,3) - Same,fix distance,but increase now,as in previous combo pattern.
01:46:850 (1) - Finish.
01:56:728 (2,3,4) - Objects are too far from each other,reduce distance.
Well,fine in general,the only thing that bother me is distance,it should be equal,your one is different on almost each combo pattern.
I really hope you will correct it.

[Hard]
Technically fine,good job!
01:21:972 (3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5) - It was hard to follow,cause I wasn't expecting 1/3 stream,but,well,maybe I'm just not that good.
01:29:655 (1) - Remove NC.
01:46:850 (1) - Finish.
02:33:680 - Add a note with finish.
Ah,and those slowdown sliders - some of them were random,but it's not really neccesary.

[Insane]
00:20:859 (1) - Oh,too far,it should be closer to 00:20:493 (7),cause it's not right place for jumping.
01:35:493 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - Strange pattern,make something more creative,at least notes should be symmetrical.
01:53:785 (2,3,4) - Make equal distance between them,please.
03:57:444 - Silence spinner.

You've got potential!
Make more maps,good luck!
Star~
wmfchris
osu! Alumni
5,072 posts
Joined March 2008
wmfchris
[Insane]
0:02:749 (3) right 1 grid
0:11:347 (7) right 1 grid
0:39:151 (5) right 1 grid
0:54:151 (6) up 1 grid
1:04:395 (2) up 1 grid
3:19:029 (11) up 1 grid
3:19:212 (12) left 1 grid

[Hard]
0:38:603 (2,3,4) (2,4) left 1 grid, (3) left 2 grids?
1:14:273 (1) right 1 grid
1:47:932 (2,3,4) not symmetrical

[Easy] ok

nice, star~
kanpakyin
Global Moderator
4,236 posts
Joined June 2010
kanpakyin
Here my mod..mod request by wmfchris
-------------------------------------------------
BluE=suggestion only
Red=I thnik you should fix this
*Major issue are in Bold

[General]
Probabaly try offset 1461? (Remember re-snap all note after you change your offset and please correct it before read my mod)

[Easy]
00:10:241(6)-If me..I will make a reverse slider..I decide to reverse at 00:10:790
00:16:905(7)-hairlike spacing mistake and finish here?
00:18:290(3)-spacing
00:19:753(x)-add a note here?
00:20:485(2)-spacing
00:22:131(x)-this spinner is too close..Maybe you can move to 00:22:314
00:36:034(1)-Feel weird..add a reverse?and Remember correct the spacing after you fix this
00:53:412(8)-Remove finish and add a clap
01:04:204(x)-Move to 01:04:387
01:12:070(x)-weird break
02:07:171(1)-aviod to use 3/4 beat in easy
02:21:773(x)- sames as 00:36:034(1)
02:23:786(1~5)-Too difficult of easy!!
You should fis the weird break of this diff..I mean the sudden break that not fit the music
Pay attention to the spacing..too many hairlike spacing mistake.So I won't nazi them

[Hard]
You can range more beautiful...
and you should fix the sudden x0.5
00:21:582(x)-add a note here
00:39:509-(1~3)sudden x0.5 BPM?
00:49:204(2)-spacing
01:21:948(2~7)What happen to this?It feel strange
01:52:680(1)-ugly slider
02:04:753(11)-New combo

[Insane]
Sorry..I can't mod it because it has too much spacing problem and random jump
Make sure you must fix this stuff
ShaggoN
689 posts
Joined September 2008
ShaggoN
Blue: Sugestion. Not necessary, but should take good effects.
Green: Notification or cosmetic thing. May, but don't have to be fixed.
Orange: Should be fixed.
Red: Have to be fixed.

General
  1. Why preview points are different for every stage? o.o I'd make the same for every difficulty.
[Easy]
  1. 02:13:168 (1) - Remove new combo
  2. Some stacked notes looks ugly. Decrease stack leniency to second bar. (Song Setup > Advanced > Stack Leniency)
[Hard]
  1. 00:09:509 (1) - Remove new combo.
  2. 00:14:997 (1) - ^
  3. 00:50:485 (1) - ^
  4. 00:50:851 (2) - Add new combo.
  5. 00:55:606 (1) - Remove new combo.
  6. 00:59:997 (2) - Add new combo.
  7. 01:00:180 (1) - Remove new combo.
  8. 01:10:789 (4) - Add new combo.
  9. 01:22:314 (1) - Remove new combo.
  10. 01:21:948 (2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - This stream is litte confusing. It's 1/3 but it really looks like 1/4 hmm. But i don't have an idea how to make it different.
  11. 01:39:326 (1) - Remove new combo.
  12. Same thing with Stack Leniency.
[Insane]
  1. 00:08:412 (1) - Remove new combo.
  2. 03:51:400 (7) - Add new combo.
Your first map. And it's cool. ^_^ Starrr'd
Art-FzTT
119 posts
Joined February 2010
Topic Starter
Art-FzTT
fixed all ATM =) ty guys :D

i m gonna try to create some kind of warning for the 1/3 stream :3
Astom
1,588 posts
Joined October 2008
Astom
Pruebalo a ver como quedo, no es algo muy espectacular como digamos.

Download: SB_Warning.rar
Verdisphena
4,240 posts
Joined June 2010
Verdisphena
(^u-)
Art-FzTT
119 posts
Joined February 2010
Topic Starter
Art-FzTT

Astom wrote:

Pruebalo a ver como quedo, no es algo muy espectacular como digamos.

[attachment=0:f5f58]SB_Warning.rar[/attachment:f5f58]
era pal hard mas ke nah ... :D pero = valep :3
Fight69
1,639 posts
Joined January 2010
Fight69
Hello there o/

[General]

The tags are not the same on every diffs
Also, delete "aya shameimaru" and add "Momiji Inubashiri"
(yes, it's Momiji's theme :3)

You can also add "Mountain of Faith" if you want

Try to find another 1024x768 BG, your bg is 875x625

Also, your mp3 is not rankable (320kbps)
Here is a new mp3 just for you !

http://www.mediafire.com/?3yf8wzsuw3r3z06

The new offset is 1535

[Insane]

Maybe rename it "Lunatic" ?
Looks better for a Touhou song :D

00:24:579 (4) - Finish at the end of this slider ?
02:39:875 (5) - This slider should finish at 02:40:241
03:22:131 (1) - No new combo
03:23:229 (4) - 1 grid left
03:23:046 (3,4,5,6) - Make this pattern like that : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/42420
03:23:046 (3) - New combo
03:54:875 (1) - Make this spinner silent ?

[Hard]

00:55:972 (8) - A bit hidden by 00:54:509 (5), move it somewhere else
02:05:485 (1) - No new combo
02:32:192 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - A bit hard to read :/

[Easy]

00:20:851 (3,4) - Make this pattern : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/42422
00:54:875 - Add a circle ?
02:04:021 (2,3) - Make this pattern : http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/42423
02:30:729 (1) - End this spinner at 02:33:656 (also, add a Finish hitsound)

I've pointed a lot of things, but it's not really bad :D
~Starz'd !
LesTrucsRoses
271 posts
Joined July 2010
LesTrucsRoses
Hard
SPOILER
00:05:119 (5) - I hate how this 5 is off to the side like that; it's hard to follow
00:05:851 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - I hate how this 5 is off to the side like that; it's hard to follow
00:16:826 (1,2,3,4) - Add the clap hitsound to 1 and 4.
00:17:923 (5,6) - Add the clap hitsound to 5 and the first part of 6.
00:49:570 (3,4) - Try making 3 and 4 into a slider.
02:02:192 (5,6,7,8) - Add the clap hitsound to 5 and 8.
Pretty good for your first map.

Insane
SPOILER
00:04:387 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Spacing errors.
00:18:107 (6) - Delete this beat.

Check for spacing errors throughout.

Very good for your first beatmap.
ziin
2,632 posts
Joined January 2010
ziin
I'm pretty sure the offset is fine. I can't help you too much as I can't accurately full combo the map (maybe you can). I was getting anywhere from 20 ms early to 20 ms late. It think it's somewhere around 2-5 ms early, and that's nothing to worry about.

[insane]
Insane is 16 million. 10 million is supposed to be the "max" for ranked maps. I think there should be a break somewhere in the second half as well. it's a pretty long song and both breaks are in the first half.
I'm thinking 02:33:720 would be a decent place for a rest (until the kiai time).
03:08:018 (5-10) I don't like these. If you change all of the notes like this into sliders, it will take out a lot of points (if indeed there's a problem with points and not with the length of the song).

this is an excellent map. Not too hard, but not that easy either.

Normal and Easy look good too. Your sounds, especially the claps, seem to be a bit random. It's a tedious process to go through them all, but usually there's a clap on beats 2 and 4 in the kiai sections. I think there should really only be a clap on the snare beats from the background (which are plentiful), or just during the kiai.

star~
Fight69
1,639 posts
Joined January 2010
Fight69

ziin wrote:

[insane]
Insane is 16 million. 10 million is supposed to be the "max" for ranked maps

peppy wrote:

<10m = Great!
10-12m = Can the mp3 be cut to make it shorter and more fun? if not, then check with any experienced BAT but not peppy.
12-20m = Same as above, and check difficulty is hard enough that score is not so attainable.
20m+ = rare cases, for insane difficulties which have max attainable scores <=15m
dNextGen
4,688 posts
Joined May 2010
dNextGen
kawaii desu
Caami
78 posts
Joined March 2010
Caami
estrellita :D
JaaiMiTo
20 posts
Joined April 2010
JaaiMiTo
star ;)
Napoleona
27 posts
Joined March 2010
Napoleona
star~ :)
Reisen Udongein
Former osu! Champion: OWC#3
1,073 posts
Joined January 2010
Reisen Udongein
Pretty good :D
take this star xD
subarasikibuta
559 posts
Joined May 2009
subarasikibuta
8-)
Saten
Global Moderator
3,871 posts
Joined August 2010
Saten
Love this song

irc modded
Star~
SapphireGhost
osu! Alumni
2,618 posts
Joined June 2010
SapphireGhost
It's an Easy diff!
00:18:534 (3,1,2,3,4) Move 1 grid down
00:36:646 (2) Symmetry, please.
01:47:988 (2,3,4,5) Mirror pattern and move the 3 up one grid.

I'm a bit tired today, but I did check the diffs which are worthy of a Star!
Musty
2,254 posts
Joined February 2010
Musty
i suppose , offset : 1 520

personnaly i don't like the mapping , and timing used...

The Skin is "OMG"..

Star
SiLviA
37 posts
Joined July 2010
SiLviA
nice map

star~
Shandro
865 posts
Joined October 2009
Shandro
star
hvick225
352 posts
Joined November 2008
hvick225
:)
AngelHoney
2,155 posts
Joined May 2009
AngelHoney
D:
Uan
Former osu! Champion: OWC#1
176 posts
Joined August 2009
Uan
Good~^.^
Star!!
Weez
2,318 posts
Joined February 2009
Weez
Easy
00:09:573 (4) Down one grid
00:09:939 (5) ^same
01:54:939 (5) Right one grid
01:55:305 (5) Right 2 and up one grid

Hard
01:52:744 (1) Looks a bit weird. Try copying the slider at 01:58:598 and paste it there then just rotate it around to your liking

Lunatic
o_o awesome lunatic :P

Love this map!
Lunah_old
Lunah_old
Yo


Easy

00:44:695 (4,5) - 2 grid to left
01:46:524 (3) - 1 grid to right

Hard

00:17:073 (2) - Move this to 00:17:165
02:02:439 (2) - Move this to 02:02:531

Insane

00:17:073 (2) - move this to 00:17:165
01:48:353 (4) - 3 grid left
01:49:085 (7) - 1 grid down and 3 left
02:02:439 (2) - Move this to 02:02:531
03:17:256 (1,2,3) - Oh noes, this spacing looks bad for me
Art-FzTT
119 posts
Joined February 2010
Topic Starter
Art-FzTT
ty guys i think i m almost done :D ... well need a mat opinion anyway xD
Rusty
170 posts
Joined April 2009
Rusty
good map! :)
Sandpig
847 posts
Joined September 2010
Sandpig
hi :D

(>'(oo)')> my mod <('(oo)'<)


Lunatic

00:11:403 (1,1,2,3,4) - make them farther apart. it's little hard to read
00:22:104 (1) - end it 1/2 earlier (on a white tick) or mute this note
00:33:171 (1) - I think you need some notes before it. it plays awkward if a part is started from a red tick with a slider.
01:07:744 (7) - I think this slowing down is unnecessary
01:11:128 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this kind of arrangement confused me (I thought they should start from a white tick because I saw 2 notes and 4 notes),01:11:128 (1,2) are hard to be catched accurately. consider making some change to the rhythm here, or make these two notes farther away from the previous slider.
02:08:659 (1) - it is a unnecessary note
02:20:183 (7,1,2) - spacing (should be like 00:34:817 (7,1,2))
02:56:494 (1) - change it into 2 circles. short slider that starts form a blue tick is not recommanded


Hard

01:00:061 - I don't know why you use 0.5x in kiai time
02:17:073 - this halt is too long. I think there should be some notes here


Easy

00:39:573 (4) - this kind of slider is not recommanded in Easy. consider using a spinner instead


that's all
saymun
401 posts
Joined July 2009
saymun
gl gl ;D
rockleejkooo
329 posts
Joined June 2010
rockleejkooo
<3 autumnal waterfall
<3 map

star~ :3
Lissette
osu! Alumni
1,496 posts
Joined July 2008
Lissette
Hola, disculpa la demora.

Despues de jugar todas las dificultades, me he dado cuenta que Lunatic necesita todavía un poco de trabajo. El problema mas serio que noté fue el espacio. Trata siempre se usar el distance snap para que el espacio sea consistente, si quieres colocar algún Jump puedes desabilitarlo, pero trata de que estos Jumps sean coherentes y predecibles para que el mapa sea rankeable. Una manera de saber donde colocar Jumps es colocarlos donde haya un cambio en el ritmo de la musica, marcando preferiblemente con new combo. Te sugiero que cheques algunos jumpy maps para que te hagas una idea. Si tienes alguna duda puedes preguntarme por IRC (cuando este Idle). ^^

Buena suerte.

Star~
Art-FzTT
119 posts
Joined February 2010
Topic Starter
Art-FzTT
okas muchas grax :D

luego empiezo a refixiarlo entero =)
klubek
62 posts
Joined May 2009
klubek
star~*
Hadez
34 posts
Joined September 2009
Hadez
se me habia olvidado la star de la otra vez

star :)
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