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peppy
Try googling osu.ppy.sh and see the percentage of hk sites linking here. its crazy shiz.
awp

eyup wrote:

Also, there's a game called Elite Beat Agents
what nonsense is this?

I must investigate.
Kylecito
guys i think eyup is pretty mad he started using bold text. BOLD text
awp
Be that as it may, spare the italics, man!

we are way off topic lol
eyup
RAWR!
peppy
clm down ^^;
Wolf_old
Bah, the other day, I was bored. And when I am bored, I usually pick on people or write long posts about everything and nothing. Sorry about that. At the time of writing that post, I had slept 8 hours in about 4 nights, so I was also tired, which makes me lose focus too. =P Just don't take anything I wrote personal nor serious. Hell, I never am serious about things, except when I'm being serious.

Anyways, to be more "in-topic": the sources are not being released because peppy is a meanie. I heard him say, with a weird voice: "My precious... code..." =P

-- Wolf --
peppy
Well the other issue is that I would not be able to release my code without at least 1 week of focus on tidying/cleaning things up. Not that it is overly messy, but I am quite fussy and wouldn't release something half-assed (ie. code without comments, or code not as optimised as it could be). And I don't know about you guys, but I'd rather work on new features than pointlessly do this at the current stage.

And there's always the IP issues you face releasing code. I mean its fine when it is a community project which can be contributed to by many, but when you have a single developer and little need for community input into the code-base, the benefits start to disappear.

I am 99% sure that if I released source code, you would see some chinese (i'm not singling out here, i swear) ripping the game off and making their own clone with no credit to the original. I guarantee it.
awp
Well, I would have said Korean, but yeah people would definitely jack it and start doing their own things.

I think by "release the sources" perhaps it was meant "to a few trusted individuals who will try to port it to the DS" or something. I don't know.

I'm tired.
peppy

awp wrote:

I think by "release the sources" perhaps it was meant "to a few trusted individuals who will try to port it to the DS"
Already have done this. My trust is not something easily earned though!
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[deleted user]
I am 99% sure that if I released source code, you would see some chinese (i'm not singling out here, i swear) ripping the game off and making their own clone with no credit to the original. I guarantee it.
And why do you think that? All the excellent games of the open source community such as battle for wesnoth, frozen bubble, cube.... never know this ending.
[deleted user]

Kylecito wrote:

Here's a suggestion for people that can't play this game in Linux:
Don't use linux. Use Windows. Games run on Windows.
-Kylecito out.
I use Linux for different purposes, and it does the job better. Windows games that run in Linux usually run good enough, anyway.

I don't know where this "Windows vs Linux" war came from, but I'd very much like to see a Linux port. If the author can't be arsed, I'll try to play with Wine. If it doesn't work (yet), I won't bother as Clickbeat (a similar game) does work in Linux and I don't run Windows much anymore.

Oh, btw, "Games don't run in Linux" is one horrible misconception. Have you ever used the system? Other than "more than 2 years ago", I mean.

EDIT: hm, Kylecito seems to be the one provoking people using other systems, here. Why? :-/

EDIT 2: by the way, what are the chances of this game ever being ported? The .NET stuff is already there, so that can be handled with Mono. But what about the DX part?

YET ANOTHER EDIT: ooops, sorry for reviving an old flame war. :oops:
peppy

DaVince wrote:

...I'd very much like to see a Linux port. If the author can't be arsed, I'll try to play with Wine. If it doesn't work (yet), I won't bother as Clickbeat (a similar game) does work in Linux and I don't run Windows much anymore.
A linux version would be quite possible once XNA/.NET2.0 is supported by mono. Until then, go have some fun with Wine. And no - I can't be arsed rewriting a large portion of the code to support a userbase that is so tiny. I'd rather work on improving the game on an operating system on the most accessible OS in the world that every (newish) PC can run.

FYI, .Net 2.0 is only partially supported in mono, and Mono.Xna still seems quite early in development. If both of these prereqs are made available, porting to linux should be a single-day task.

Good luck with wine - please report your success or failure story :)
[deleted user]
Tough luck - I need the .NET framework, which won't install in Wine, so I'll have to wait until Wine is so far as to support .NET using Mono. It looks like they're working on that already, though, so maybe it'll work later.
awp

peppy wrote:

My trust is not something easily earned though!
Hahahaha it would be so ironic if I edited this post to something of questionable sexual preference =3

Also, a lot of new(ish) computers have decently sized harddrives, so why not just pirate and dual-boot XP specifically for playing Windows-only games?
peppy

awp wrote:

Also, a lot of new(ish) computers have decently sized harddrives, so why not just pirate and dual-boot XP specifically for playing Windows-only games?
Thats what all my linux elitist friends do ;).
Echo

peppy wrote:

My trust is not something easily earned though!
*evil laugh*
[deleted user]
As I said, I do have Windows, and I even have it legitimately (came with my PC). I used it for years. I know how to use it.
Anyway, I'll only go to Windows when I have to go to Windows, which isn't very often anymore. I'll be sure to install it when I'm in there. :)

EDIT: lol, elitist. I think if any system works good for you, better than others, or does what you want better, you should stick with that system. Windows can do a lot, so why not use it if you like that? I'm only one of the few in my environment using Linux. ;)
awp
elitist meaning pushing your operating system beliefs on others. Kinda like Ky being a Windows elitist.
Kylecito
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wiicademan
When you talk about code sources, you almost always have to talk about Linux. It's like a law.
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