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Hakobe Naru(CV:M.A.O) - Nekomatsuri [Taiko]

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komasy

_Rise wrote:

こんにちは M4M

Mod
[Nyaa~!]
  1. 02:16:458 (4) or 02:16:646 (5) - Change to k? 02:16:458 (4,5) - ここの2連続dに違和感を感じました。
    パターン化を図るため02:16:739 - にadd d and 02:17:677 - change to d
[Futsuu]
  • こちらも言うことがなかったので提案だけ。
  1. 02:08:677 and 02:08:958 and 02:09:146 - Add d? 曲の1番盛り上がるところなのでこれぐらい詰めちゃっても大丈夫かなと思いました。
    リズム難なのと休憩がなくなってしまうので02:08:208 - にadd k
[kantan]
  1. 00:38:396 (47) - Change to k? 00:32:396 (40,41,42) - こことの変化をつけたいです。
    fixed
  2. 00:53:396 (18) - ^ パターン化回避。
    fixed
  3. 01:05:396 (18) - ^ こちらもパターン化回避。
    fixed
  4. 01:41:396 (64) - ^ 00:38:396 (47) と同様の理由で。
    fixed
  5. 01:56:396 (18) - ^ パターン化回避。
    fixed
  6. 02:07:271 - Add d and 02:08:396 (18) - Change to k? 最後なので少し音符を多めにしてみるのもいいかもしれません。
    5連はないほうが易しいかなという風に思います

Kantanはもう少し詰めれるかな~と思いました。 他はほぼ完璧です :) (ランクドMap未所持並感)
ランクド頑張ってください!
ありがとうございました!
butter0414

_Rise wrote:

こんにちは M4M

Mod
[butter's Muzukashii]
  1. 01:59:771 (61) - おそらく1回目のサビとの変化をつけるためにkにしたと思うのですが、そうしてしまうと同じリズムのkが多くなりすぎてしまい不自然に感じました。 よって、パターン化を狙い 01:59:771 (61) - ここをdに戻す、または別の方法で変化をつけ、 01:59:677 (61) - ここにkを追加するといいかもしれません。 後者の変更を行いました。
  2. ^で前者の変更を行った場合は 02:02:958 (77) - Change to d, 後者の変更を行った場合は 02:02:583 (75,76) - Change to ddd(1/4) というのはどうでしょう。 dddに変更しました

Kantanはもう少し詰めれるかな~と思いました。 他はほぼ完璧です :) (ランクドMap未所持並感)
ランクド頑張ってください!
ありがとうございました!
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376,200,72708,1,2,0:0:0:0:
328,200,72896,1,0,0:0:0:0:
368,336,73271,1,2,0:0:0:0:
352,288,73646,1,0,0:0:0:0:
352,288,73833,1,2,0:0:0:0:
352,288,73927,1,2,0:0:0:0:
352,288,74021,1,2,0:0:0:0:
432,288,74208,1,2,0:0:0:0:
352,288,74396,1,0,0:0:0:0:
328,248,74771,1,0,0:0:0:0:
232,208,74958,1,0,0:0:0:0:
368,192,75146,1,2,0:0:0:0:
408,144,75333,1,0,0:0:0:0:
392,160,75521,1,2,0:0:0:0:
392,160,75708,1,2,0:0:0:0:
392,160,75896,1,0,0:0:0:0:
392,160,76271,1,0,0:0:0:0:
392,160,76458,1,2,0:0:0:0:
392,160,76646,1,0,0:0:0:0:
392,160,76833,1,2,0:0:0:0:
392,160,76927,1,2,0:0:0:0:
392,160,77021,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,77208,1,2,0:0:0:0:
360,144,77396,1,0,0:0:0:0:
296,112,77771,1,0,0:0:0:0:
296,112,78146,1,0,0:0:0:0:
296,112,78521,1,6,0:0:0:0:
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240,312,79646,1,2,0:0:0:0:
280,192,80021,1,2,0:0:0:0:
376,192,80771,1,0,0:0:0:0:
376,192,81146,1,2,0:0:0:0:
400,248,81521,1,2,0:0:0:0:
312,200,81896,1,0,0:0:0:0:
200,376,82271,1,0,0:0:0:0:
240,312,82646,1,2,0:0:0:0:
248,200,83021,1,0,0:0:0:0:
352,192,83396,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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376,192,83771,1,0,0:0:0:0:
376,192,84146,1,2,0:0:0:0:
400,248,84521,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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312,200,84896,1,0,0:0:0:0:
240,312,85646,1,2,0:0:0:0:
280,192,86021,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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256,208,87333,1,0,0:0:0:0:
400,248,87521,1,2,0:0:0:0:
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240,224,88271,1,2,0:0:0:0:
200,376,88646,1,0,0:0:0:0:
240,224,89021,1,0,0:0:0:0:
280,192,89208,1,2,0:0:0:0:
312,120,89396,1,0,0:0:0:0:
312,200,89771,1,0,0:0:0:0:
312,200,90146,1,0,0:0:0:0:
208,184,90521,1,6,0:0:0:0:
320,304,90896,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,176,91646,1,2,0:0:0:0:
352,280,92021,1,2,0:0:0:0:
320,184,92396,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,184,92771,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,184,92958,1,0,0:0:0:0:
376,200,93146,1,2,0:0:0:0:
376,200,93521,1,0,0:0:0:0:
376,200,93708,1,2,0:0:0:0:
376,200,93896,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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464,256,94646,1,2,0:0:0:0:
464,256,95021,1,2,0:0:0:0:
464,256,95396,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,95771,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,200,95958,1,2,0:0:0:0:
240,192,96052,1,2,0:0:0:0:
272,200,96146,1,2,0:0:0:0:
248,208,96333,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,168,96521,1,2,0:0:0:0:
232,208,96708,1,2,0:0:0:0:
320,304,96896,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,176,97646,1,2,0:0:0:0:
352,280,98021,1,2,0:0:0:0:
320,184,98396,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,184,98771,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,184,98958,1,0,0:0:0:0:
376,200,99146,1,2,0:0:0:0:
376,200,99521,1,0,0:0:0:0:
376,200,99708,1,2,0:0:0:0:
376,200,99896,1,0,0:0:0:0:
464,256,100177,1,0,0:0:0:0:
464,256,100458,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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360,176,100833,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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400,224,101208,1,2,0:0:0:0:
464,256,101396,1,0,0:0:0:0:
464,256,101771,1,0,0:0:0:0:
464,256,101958,1,2,0:0:0:0:
464,256,102052,1,2,0:0:0:0:
464,256,102146,1,2,0:0:0:0:
464,256,102333,1,0,0:0:0:0:
464,256,102521,1,2,0:0:0:0:
280,240,102896,1,0,0:0:0:0:
288,240,103271,1,2,0:0:0:0:
288,240,103458,1,2,0:0:0:0:
320,224,103646,1,0,0:0:0:0:
296,200,103833,1,2,0:0:0:0:
296,200,103927,1,2,0:0:0:0:
312,192,104021,1,2,0:0:0:0:
312,192,104208,1,2,0:0:0:0:
312,192,104396,1,0,0:0:0:0:
312,192,104771,1,2,0:0:0:0:
312,200,104958,1,2,0:0:0:0:
312,200,105146,1,4,0:0:0:0:
304,216,105521,1,6,0:0:0:0:
400,320,105896,1,4,0:0:0:0:
424,256,106177,1,0,0:0:0:0:
368,280,106458,1,2,0:0:0:0:
440,272,106646,1,0,0:0:0:0:
328,216,106833,1,2,0:0:0:0:
328,216,107021,1,2,0:0:0:0:
328,216,107396,1,0,0:0:0:0:
392,240,107583,1,2,0:0:0:0:
216,152,107677,1,2,0:0:0:0:
448,264,107771,1,2,0:0:0:0:
448,264,107958,1,2,0:0:0:0:
448,264,108146,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,264,108521,1,2,0:0:0:0:
248,168,108708,1,2,0:0:0:0:
376,248,108896,1,0,0:0:0:0:
376,248,109177,1,0,0:0:0:0:
376,248,109458,1,2,0:0:0:0:
376,248,109646,1,0,0:0:0:0:
376,248,109833,1,2,0:0:0:0:
376,248,110021,1,2,0:0:0:0:
248,256,110396,1,2,0:0:0:0:
352,232,110583,1,0,0:0:0:0:
176,200,110677,1,0,0:0:0:0:
176,200,110771,1,0,0:0:0:0:
368,208,110958,1,2,0:0:0:0:
352,144,111146,1,0,0:0:0:0:
344,120,111521,1,0,0:0:0:0:
336,200,111708,1,2,0:0:0:0:
400,320,111896,1,0,0:0:0:0:
424,224,112177,1,0,0:0:0:0:
368,280,112458,1,2,0:0:0:0:
440,272,112646,1,0,0:0:0:0:
400,248,112833,1,2,0:0:0:0:
328,216,113021,1,2,0:0:0:0:
328,216,113396,1,0,0:0:0:0:
392,240,113583,1,2,0:0:0:0:
224,200,113677,1,2,0:0:0:0:
448,264,113771,1,2,0:0:0:0:
448,264,113958,1,2,0:0:0:0:
448,264,114146,1,0,0:0:0:0:
200,216,114521,1,2,0:0:0:0:
240,216,114708,1,0,0:0:0:0:
240,216,114802,1,0,0:0:0:0:
240,216,114896,1,0,0:0:0:0:
312,192,115083,1,2,0:0:0:0:
288,176,115271,1,0,0:0:0:0:
272,160,115646,1,2,0:0:0:0:
272,160,116021,1,0,0:0:0:0:
272,160,116208,1,0,0:0:0:0:
272,160,116396,1,2,0:0:0:0:
240,64,116677,1,2,0:0:0:0:
280,64,116958,1,2,0:0:0:0:
312,184,117146,1,0,0:0:0:0:
312,184,117521,1,6,0:0:0:0:
312,184,117896,1,4,0:0:0:0:
424,256,118177,1,2,0:0:0:0:
368,280,118458,1,2,0:0:0:0:
440,272,118646,1,0,0:0:0:0:
400,248,118833,1,2,0:0:0:0:
328,216,119021,1,2,0:0:0:0:
328,216,119208,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,264,119396,1,2,0:0:0:0:
392,240,119583,1,2,0:0:0:0:
288,256,119677,1,2,0:0:0:0:
448,264,119771,1,2,0:0:0:0:
448,264,119958,1,2,0:0:0:0:
448,264,120146,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,264,120521,1,2,0:0:0:0:
376,248,120708,1,2,0:0:0:0:
376,248,120896,1,0,0:0:0:0:
376,248,121177,1,2,0:0:0:0:
376,248,121458,1,2,0:0:0:0:
376,248,121646,1,0,0:0:0:0:
376,248,121833,1,2,0:0:0:0:
376,248,122021,1,2,0:0:0:0:
328,248,122208,1,0,0:0:0:0:
248,256,122396,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,240,122583,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,240,122677,1,0,0:0:0:0:
368,208,122771,1,0,0:0:0:0:
368,208,122958,1,2,0:0:0:0:
352,144,123146,1,0,0:0:0:0:
344,120,123521,1,2,0:0:0:0:
344,120,123896,1,0,0:0:0:0:
352,184,124646,1,0,0:0:0:0:
264,104,124833,1,2,0:0:0:0:
264,112,125021,1,2,0:0:0:0:
248,160,125396,1,0,0:0:0:0:
344,192,125583,1,2,0:0:0:0:
224,176,125677,1,2,0:0:0:0:
328,184,125771,1,2,0:0:0:0:
328,184,125958,1,2,0:0:0:0:
328,184,126146,1,0,0:0:0:0:
328,184,126521,1,2,0:0:0:0:
272,120,126708,1,0,0:0:0:0:
248,152,126896,1,0,0:0:0:0:
248,152,127177,1,2,0:0:0:0:
248,152,127458,1,2,0:0:0:0:
248,144,127646,1,2,0:0:0:0:
248,152,127927,1,2,0:0:0:0:
248,152,128208,1,0,0:0:0:0:
248,152,128396,1,2,0:0:0:0:
312,208,128677,1,2,0:0:0:0:
376,216,128958,5,2,0:0:0:0:
336,240,129146,1,0,0:0:0:0:
376,112,129521,1,6,0:0:0:0:
392,280,129896,1,4,0:0:0:0:
352,288,130271,1,2,0:0:0:0:
352,288,130646,1,0,0:0:0:0:
352,288,130833,1,2,0:0:0:0:
352,288,130927,1,2,0:0:0:0:
352,288,131021,1,2,0:0:0:0:
352,288,131208,1,0,0:0:0:0:
432,288,131396,1,2,0:0:0:0:
328,248,131583,1,2,0:0:0:0:
384,232,131771,1,0,0:0:0:0:
392,288,131958,1,2,0:0:0:0:
248,192,132146,1,0,0:0:0:0:
376,208,132521,1,2,0:0:0:0:
240,176,132708,1,2,0:0:0:0:
344,168,132896,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,128,133271,1,2,0:0:0:0:
344,168,133646,1,0,0:0:0:0:
344,168,133833,1,2,0:0:0:0:
344,168,133927,1,2,0:0:0:0:
352,256,134021,1,2,0:0:0:0:
376,200,134208,1,0,0:0:0:0:
344,184,134396,1,2,0:0:0:0:
288,200,134583,1,0,0:0:0:0:
288,192,134677,1,0,0:0:0:0:
296,208,134771,1,0,0:0:0:0:
360,176,134958,1,2,0:0:0:0:
360,176,135146,1,0,0:0:0:0:
296,208,135333,1,0,0:0:0:0:
376,200,135521,1,2,0:0:0:0:
376,200,135708,1,2,0:0:0:0:
328,200,135896,1,0,0:0:0:0:
368,336,136271,1,2,0:0:0:0:
352,288,136646,1,0,0:0:0:0:
352,288,136833,1,2,0:0:0:0:
352,288,136927,1,2,0:0:0:0:
352,288,137021,1,2,0:0:0:0:
432,288,137208,1,0,0:0:0:0:
352,288,137396,1,2,0:0:0:0:
384,216,137583,1,0,0:0:0:0:
328,248,137771,1,0,0:0:0:0:
368,192,137958,1,2,0:0:0:0:
408,144,138146,1,0,0:0:0:0:
392,160,138521,1,2,0:0:0:0:
392,160,138708,1,2,0:0:0:0:
392,160,138896,1,0,0:0:0:0:
392,160,139271,1,0,0:0:0:0:
392,160,139458,1,2,0:0:0:0:
392,160,139646,1,0,0:0:0:0:
392,160,139833,1,2,0:0:0:0:
392,160,139927,1,2,0:0:0:0:
392,160,140021,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,140208,1,2,0:0:0:0:
360,144,140396,1,0,0:0:0:0:
296,112,140771,1,0,0:0:0:0:
296,112,141146,1,0,0:0:0:0:
296,112,141521,1,6,0:0:0:0:
yuzu__rinrin
ne! ko!

from my queue... ?

[general]
  1. 特にはないです

    ...がNyaa~!はInner扱いですか?普通にOni扱いですか?
    InnerならばOniとのノーツ差がそこまでなくてあんまり変わらないような印象受けちゃうんだけど。。。
[Kantan]
  1. 00:26:771 - add?
    大暴走~の部分をタンタンタ~ンみたいなリズム取ってきたい。後にbreakもあるので入れてあげても特に問題はないと思う。

  2. 01:03:146 (14) - add
    ギターに合わせているのに入れていないのはおかしいでしょう。。。
    vocalにも合うし良いかと。
[Futsuu]
  1. 00:20:583 (50) - move to 00:20:958 - , change d
    Dkdって打ちにくくない?
    playability考えるとこういうリズムがいいかも

  2. 00:45:521 (10) - delete, 00:57:521 (46) - delete
    ちょっと長いかも?と思ったので削ってもいい感じのアップビートだと思ったので。
  3. 01:48:521 (10) - 02:00:521 (46) - ^
[butter's Muzu]
  1. 01:24:521 (178,179) - ctrl+g
    kkd回避でdkdにしてると思いますがkddで178の高い音拾うとかはどうですか?
[Oni]
無 good

[Nya]
  1. 00:26:771 (120) - D, 00:27:146 (121) - K, 00:27:239 (122) - delete.
    vocalを大音符で拾いたい...
気になる点はこのくらいでした。
Kantan,Futsuu辺りは主観ゴリゴリなら追加できるので欲しい場合言ってください、多分します。

短くて申し訳ない! Good luck~
Topic Starter
komasy

yuzu__rinrin wrote:

SPOILER
ne! ko!

from my queue... ?

[general]
  1. 特にはないです

    ...がNyaa~!はInner扱いですか?普通にOni扱いですか?
    InnerならばOniとのノーツ差がそこまでなくてあんまり変わらないような印象受けちゃうんだけど。。。
    Oni扱いのつもりです!
[Kantan]
  1. 00:26:771 - add?
    大暴走~の部分をタンタンタ~ンみたいなリズム取ってきたい。後にbreakもあるので入れてあげても特に問題はないと思う。
    左右がFinishなのでAdded D
  2. 01:03:146 (14) - add
    ギターに合わせているのに入れていないのはおかしいでしょう。。。
    vocalにも合うし良いかと。
    既に入っています!
[Futsuu]
  1. 00:20:583 (50) - move to 00:20:958 - , change d
    Dkdって打ちにくくない?
    playability考えるとこういうリズムがいいかも
    very guudo
  2. 00:45:521 (10) - delete, 00:57:521 (46) - delete
    ちょっと長いかも?と思ったので削ってもいい感じのアップビートだと思ったので。
  3. 01:48:521 (10) - 02:00:521 (46) - ^
    both deleted
[Nya]
  1. 00:26:771 (120) - D, 00:27:146 (121) - K, 00:27:239 (122) - delete.
    vocalを大音符で拾いたい...
    ドラムがkdddkってなっていたのでそうしていましたが、こちらの方が気持ち良いのでchanged
気になる点はこのくらいでした。
Kantan,Futsuu辺りは主観ゴリゴリなら追加できるので欲しい場合言ってください、多分します。

短くて申し訳ない! Good luck~
ありがとうございました!
mysterfish
こんにちは~ from game chat
mod
[General]
問題ないと思います

[Kantan]
01:18:896 - 01:42:146 Kantanにしてはリズム難だと思うので、SVを落として認識に余裕を
持たせる等の措置をしたほうがいいと思います。

[Futsuu]
色々考えましたが、問題ないという結論に至りました。

[butter's Muzukashii]
00:09:708 (29) - delete 3連符が続いた後なので、少し余裕を持たせた方がいいと思います
00:09:896 (29) -change to Finisher 休憩を入れる代わりにです

01:12:708 (137) - ^
01:12:896 (138) - ^

02:15:333 (31) - ^
02:15:896 (33) - ^


01:22:271 (171) - delete 少し詰めすぎてると感じたので
01:28:271 (187) - delete ^

[tasuke's Oni]
特にないです。 良い譜面だと思います

[NekOni]
01:23:208 (58,59) -change to dd 主観的な提案ですが、こちらの方が滑らかになっていいと思います
以上です。 全難易度とてもよく纏まっていたと思います。 good lack~ :)
Topic Starter
komasy

mysterfish wrote:

こんにちは~ from game chat
mod
[General]
問題ないと思います

[Kantan]
01:18:896 - 01:42:146 Kantanにしてはリズム難だと思うので、SVを落として認識に余裕を
持たせる等の措置をしたほうがいいと思います。
SVを下げると余計リズムが分かりにくくなります。

[Futsuu]
色々考えましたが、問題ないという結論に至りました。

[NekOni]
01:23:208 (58,59) -change to dd 主観的な提案ですが、こちらの方が滑らかになっていいと思います
このパートで必要以上にdを使うのは違うと思うのでkeep
以上です。 全難易度とてもよく纏まっていたと思います。 good lack~ :)
ありがとうございました!
Charlotte
from game-in chatです。

[ about]
  1. d is don note
  2. k is kat note
  3. D is big don note
  4. K is big kat note
[ General]


  • Futsuu HP7→6 広がり出すほうが良いと思います。
[ Kantan]


  • 01:29:771 - add some notes.
[ Futsuu]


  • サビ前とサビ終わりの休憩 Perfect
[ NekOni]


  • 00:52:833 (76,77,78,79,80,81) - dk kkkd...から入るパターンをいくつかアレンジしてみるのはどうでしょうか?
irc log消えたのでforum modっぽくpostします。Ranked頑張って下さい
Topic Starter
komasy

Charlotte wrote:

from game-in chatです。

[ about]
  1. d is don note
  2. k is kat note
  3. D is big don note
  4. K is big kat note
[ General]


  • Futsuu HP7→6 広がり出すほうが良いと思います。
    下から8-7-6に変更
[ Kantan]


  • 01:29:771 - add some notes.
    一貫性の面でもadded D
[ Futsuu]


  • サビ前とサビ終わりの休憩 Perfect
    ありがとうございます :)
[ NekOni]


  • 00:52:833 (76,77,78,79,80,81) - dk kkkd...から入るパターンをいくつかアレンジしてみるのはどうでしょうか?
    頑張ってみます
irc log消えたのでforum modっぽくpostします。Ranked頑張って下さい
ありがとうございました! :)
_yu68
こんにちは :3

mod
[General]
  1. tasuke's OniのWidescreen Supportを無効化してください。
  2. あくまで自分の意見ですが、現状のRomanised Titleが公式によるローマ字表記でない場合、"猫"と"祭り"はそれぞれ別の単語であるため'Neko Matsuri' と表記した方が適切なようにも思います。
[Kantan]
  1. looks fine. 曲に沿ったパターン構成がされておりbreakも十分にあります。
[Futsuu]
  1. 00:08:958 (18) - change to d? 音程によるパターンの変化は00:07:833 - だけで十分かもしれません。
  2. 01:11:958 (86) - 02:14:958 (18) - ^
  3. 01:01:833 (56,57) - delete + 01:01:458 - add k? 2分音符x2の目立つ音をより明確に表現できるように思います。また、個人的には合いの手よりボーカルの雰囲気を残した方が自然に感じます。
  4. 02:04:833 (56,57) - ^
[butter's Muzukashii]
  1. 01:01:833 (88,89) - delete + 01:01:458 - add k? 2分音符x2の目立つ音をより明確に表現できるように思います。また、個人的には合いの手よりボーカルの雰囲気を残した方が自然に感じます。
  2. 02:04:833 (338,339) - ^
[tasuke's Oni]
  1. 01:32:958 (35,36) - ctrl+g (+ 01:32:771 (34) - change to d)? 静かなパートなので、より打楽器へ焦点を寄せた分かりやすい音を鳴らし安定感を求めても良いと思います。
  2. 01:39:146 (60) - ^
[NekOni]
  1. 00:05:489 (11) - move to 00:05:677 - ? 1/4の終わる拍が頻繁に変化するため安定性に若干欠ける印象を受けます。これは自分の感性の問題ですが、曲の音は1/4を赤線で終わらせるに値していないように感じます。
  2. 01:08:489 (193) - 02:11:489 (206) - ^
  3. 00:54:427 (91,92) - ctrl+g? 4本指プレイにおいて、00:54:521 - 00:54:708 - この2つを別々の指で打てるという点から1/4+1/6を叩きやすくできると思います。
  4. 01:57:427 (97,98) - ^

gl 4 ranked! 全体的に完成度が非常に高いのですぐにいけると思います
Topic Starter
komasy

_yu68 wrote:

こんにちは :3

mod
[General]
  1. tasuke's OniのWidescreen Supportを無効化してください。
    fixed
  2. あくまで自分の意見ですが、現状のRomanised Titleが公式によるローマ字表記でない場合、"猫"と"祭り"はそれぞれ別の単語であるため'Neko Matsuri' と表記した方が適切なようにも思います。
    どこ探しても公式のローマ字表記が見当たらないのでfixed
[Kantan]
  1. looks fine. 曲に沿ったパターン構成がされておりbreakも十分にあります。
ありがとうございます

[Futsuu]
  1. 00:08:958 (18) - change to d? 音程によるパターンの変化は00:07:833 - だけで十分かもしれません。
  2. 01:11:958 (86) - 02:14:958 (18) - ^
    どちらかというとkdd k ddkやkkd k dkkなどの対称パターンを重視したい感じです
  3. 01:01:833 (56,57) - delete + 01:01:458 - add k? 2分音符x2の目立つ音をより明確に表現できるように思います。また、個人的には合いの手よりボーカルの雰囲気を残した方が自然に感じます。
  4. 02:04:833 (56,57) - ^
    both fixed
[NekOni]
  1. 00:05:489 (11) - move to 00:05:677 - ? 1/4の終わる拍が頻繁に変化するため安定性に若干欠ける印象を受けます。これは自分の感性の問題ですが、曲の音は1/4を赤線で終わらせるに値していないように感じます。
  2. 01:08:489 (193) - 02:11:489 (206) - ^
  3. 00:54:427 (91,92) - ctrl+g? 4本指プレイにおいて、00:54:521 - 00:54:708 - この2つを別々の指で打てるという点から1/4+1/6を叩きやすくできると思います。
  4. 01:57:427 (97,98) - ^
    あll fixed

gl 4 ranked! 全体的に完成度が非常に高いのですぐにいけると思います
ありがとうございました!
tasuke912
@_Rise
音とkiaiであることを考慮すると問題な言うと思います

@_yu68

適用

Thanks!

http://puu.sh/xq79D/e9f02466e7.osu
butter0414

mysterfish wrote:

こんにちは~ from game chat
mod
[butter's Muzukashii]
00:09:708 (29) - delete 3連符が続いた後なので、少し余裕を持たせた方がいいと思います
00:09:896 (29) -change to Finisher 休憩を入れる代わりにです

01:12:708 (137) - ^
01:12:896 (138) - ^

02:15:333 (31) - ^
02:15:896 (33) - ^


01:22:271 (171) - delete 少し詰めすぎてると感じたので
01:28:271 (187) - delete ^

yuzu__rinrin wrote:

ne! ko!

from my queue... ?


[butter's Muzu]
  1. 01:24:521 (178,179) - ctrl+g
    kkd回避でdkdにしてると思いますがkddで178の高い音拾うとかはどうですか?

_yu68 wrote:

こんにちは :3

[butter's Muzukashii]
  1. 01:01:833 (88,89) - delete + 01:01:458 - add k? 2分音符x2の目立つ音をより明確に表現できるように思います。また、個人的には合いの手よりボーカルの雰囲気を残した方が自然に感じます。
  2. 02:04:833 (338,339) - ^
all fixです!ありがとうございました!

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328,216,56021,1,2,0:0:0:0:
328,216,56208,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,264,56396,1,2,0:0:0:0:
392,240,56583,1,2,0:0:0:0:
312,200,56677,1,2,0:0:0:0:
448,264,56771,1,2,0:0:0:0:
448,264,56958,1,2,0:0:0:0:
448,264,57146,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,264,57521,1,2,0:0:0:0:
376,248,57708,1,2,0:0:0:0:
376,248,57896,1,0,0:0:0:0:
376,248,58177,1,2,0:0:0:0:
376,248,58458,1,2,0:0:0:0:
376,248,58646,1,0,0:0:0:0:
376,248,58833,1,2,0:0:0:0:
376,248,59021,1,2,0:0:0:0:
328,248,59208,1,0,0:0:0:0:
248,256,59396,1,2,0:0:0:0:
392,184,59583,1,0,0:0:0:0:
312,144,59677,1,0,0:0:0:0:
368,208,59771,1,0,0:0:0:0:
368,208,59958,1,2,0:0:0:0:
352,144,60146,1,0,0:0:0:0:
344,120,60521,1,2,0:0:0:0:
344,120,60896,1,0,0:0:0:0:
232,176,61458,1,2,0:0:0:0:
352,184,61646,1,0,0:0:0:0:
248,160,62396,1,0,0:0:0:0:
344,192,62583,1,2,0:0:0:0:
240,176,62677,1,2,0:0:0:0:
328,184,62771,1,2,0:0:0:0:
328,184,62958,1,2,0:0:0:0:
328,184,63146,1,0,0:0:0:0:
328,184,63521,1,2,0:0:0:0:
272,120,63708,1,0,0:0:0:0:
248,152,64083,1,0,0:0:0:0:
248,152,64271,1,2,0:0:0:0:
264,160,64458,1,2,0:0:0:0:
248,152,64646,1,0,0:0:0:0:
248,152,65021,1,2,0:0:0:0:
248,152,65208,1,0,0:0:0:0:
248,152,65396,1,2,0:0:0:0:
312,208,65677,1,2,0:0:0:0:
376,216,65958,1,2,0:0:0:0:
336,240,66146,1,0,0:0:0:0:
376,112,66521,1,6,0:0:0:0:
392,280,66896,1,4,0:0:0:0:
352,288,67271,1,2,0:0:0:0:
352,288,67646,1,0,0:0:0:0:
352,288,67833,1,2,0:0:0:0:
352,288,67927,1,2,0:0:0:0:
352,288,68021,1,2,0:0:0:0:
352,288,68208,1,2,0:0:0:0:
432,288,68396,1,0,0:0:0:0:
328,248,68771,1,2,0:0:0:0:
392,288,68958,1,2,0:0:0:0:
384,232,69146,1,0,0:0:0:0:
248,192,69333,1,0,0:0:0:0:
376,208,69521,1,2,0:0:0:0:
288,168,69708,1,2,0:0:0:0:
344,168,69896,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,128,70271,1,2,0:0:0:0:
344,168,70646,1,0,0:0:0:0:
344,168,70833,1,2,0:0:0:0:
344,168,70927,1,2,0:0:0:0:
352,256,71021,1,2,0:0:0:0:
376,200,71208,1,0,0:0:0:0:
344,184,71396,1,2,0:0:0:0:
272,200,71583,1,0,0:0:0:0:
272,200,71677,1,0,0:0:0:0:
296,208,71771,1,0,0:0:0:0:
360,176,71958,1,2,0:0:0:0:
360,176,72146,1,0,0:0:0:0:
376,200,72521,1,2,0:0:0:0:
328,200,72896,1,4,0:0:0:0:
368,336,73271,1,2,0:0:0:0:
352,288,73646,1,0,0:0:0:0:
352,288,73833,1,2,0:0:0:0:
352,288,73927,1,2,0:0:0:0:
352,288,74021,1,2,0:0:0:0:
432,288,74208,1,2,0:0:0:0:
352,288,74396,1,0,0:0:0:0:
328,248,74771,1,0,0:0:0:0:
232,208,74958,1,0,0:0:0:0:
368,192,75146,1,2,0:0:0:0:
408,144,75333,1,0,0:0:0:0:
392,160,75521,1,2,0:0:0:0:
392,160,75708,1,2,0:0:0:0:
392,160,75896,1,0,0:0:0:0:
392,160,76271,1,0,0:0:0:0:
392,160,76458,1,2,0:0:0:0:
392,160,76646,1,0,0:0:0:0:
392,160,76833,1,2,0:0:0:0:
392,160,76927,1,2,0:0:0:0:
392,160,77021,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,77208,1,2,0:0:0:0:
360,144,77396,1,0,0:0:0:0:
296,112,77771,1,0,0:0:0:0:
296,112,78146,1,0,0:0:0:0:
296,112,78521,1,6,0:0:0:0:
312,200,78896,1,0,0:0:0:0:
240,312,79646,1,2,0:0:0:0:
280,192,80021,1,2,0:0:0:0:
376,192,80771,1,0,0:0:0:0:
376,192,81146,1,2,0:0:0:0:
400,248,81521,1,2,0:0:0:0:
312,200,81896,1,0,0:0:0:0:
240,312,82646,1,2,0:0:0:0:
248,200,83021,1,0,0:0:0:0:
352,192,83396,1,2,0:0:0:0:
296,224,83583,1,2,0:0:0:0:
376,192,83771,1,0,0:0:0:0:
376,192,84146,1,2,0:0:0:0:
400,248,84521,1,2,0:0:0:0:
296,224,84708,1,0,0:0:0:0:
312,200,84896,1,0,0:0:0:0:
240,312,85646,1,2,0:0:0:0:
280,192,86021,1,2,0:0:0:0:
376,192,86771,1,0,0:0:0:0:
376,192,87146,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,208,87333,1,0,0:0:0:0:
400,248,87521,1,2,0:0:0:0:
312,200,87896,1,0,0:0:0:0:
200,376,88646,1,0,0:0:0:0:
240,224,89021,1,0,0:0:0:0:
280,192,89208,1,2,0:0:0:0:
312,120,89396,1,0,0:0:0:0:
312,200,89771,1,0,0:0:0:0:
312,200,90146,1,0,0:0:0:0:
208,184,90521,1,6,0:0:0:0:
320,304,90896,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,176,91646,1,2,0:0:0:0:
352,280,92021,1,2,0:0:0:0:
320,184,92396,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,184,92771,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,184,92958,1,0,0:0:0:0:
376,200,93146,1,2,0:0:0:0:
376,200,93521,1,0,0:0:0:0:
376,200,93708,1,2,0:0:0:0:
376,200,93896,1,0,0:0:0:0:
464,256,94271,1,0,0:0:0:0:
464,256,94646,1,2,0:0:0:0:
464,256,95021,1,2,0:0:0:0:
464,256,95396,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,95771,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,200,95958,1,2,0:0:0:0:
240,192,96052,1,2,0:0:0:0:
272,200,96146,1,2,0:0:0:0:
248,208,96333,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,168,96521,1,2,0:0:0:0:
232,208,96708,1,2,0:0:0:0:
320,304,96896,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,176,97646,1,2,0:0:0:0:
352,280,98021,1,2,0:0:0:0:
320,184,98396,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,184,98771,1,0,0:0:0:0:
320,184,98958,1,0,0:0:0:0:
376,200,99146,1,2,0:0:0:0:
376,200,99521,1,0,0:0:0:0:
376,200,99708,1,2,0:0:0:0:
376,200,99896,1,0,0:0:0:0:
464,256,100177,1,0,0:0:0:0:
464,256,100458,1,0,0:0:0:0:
464,256,100646,1,2,0:0:0:0:
360,176,100833,1,0,0:0:0:0:
464,256,101021,1,0,0:0:0:0:
400,224,101208,1,2,0:0:0:0:
464,256,101396,1,0,0:0:0:0:
464,256,101771,1,0,0:0:0:0:
464,256,101958,1,2,0:0:0:0:
464,256,102052,1,2,0:0:0:0:
464,256,102146,1,2,0:0:0:0:
464,256,102333,1,0,0:0:0:0:
464,256,102521,1,2,0:0:0:0:
280,240,102896,1,0,0:0:0:0:
288,240,103271,1,2,0:0:0:0:
288,240,103458,1,2,0:0:0:0:
320,224,103646,1,0,0:0:0:0:
296,200,103833,1,2,0:0:0:0:
296,200,103927,1,2,0:0:0:0:
312,192,104021,1,2,0:0:0:0:
312,192,104208,1,2,0:0:0:0:
312,192,104396,1,0,0:0:0:0:
312,192,104771,1,2,0:0:0:0:
312,200,104958,1,2,0:0:0:0:
312,200,105146,1,4,0:0:0:0:
304,216,105521,1,6,0:0:0:0:
400,320,105896,1,4,0:0:0:0:
424,256,106177,1,0,0:0:0:0:
368,280,106458,1,2,0:0:0:0:
440,272,106646,1,0,0:0:0:0:
328,216,106833,1,2,0:0:0:0:
328,216,107021,1,2,0:0:0:0:
328,216,107396,1,0,0:0:0:0:
392,240,107583,1,2,0:0:0:0:
216,152,107677,1,2,0:0:0:0:
448,264,107771,1,2,0:0:0:0:
448,264,107958,1,2,0:0:0:0:
448,264,108146,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,264,108521,1,2,0:0:0:0:
248,168,108708,1,2,0:0:0:0:
376,248,108896,1,0,0:0:0:0:
376,248,109177,1,0,0:0:0:0:
376,248,109458,1,2,0:0:0:0:
376,248,109646,1,0,0:0:0:0:
376,248,109833,1,2,0:0:0:0:
376,248,110021,1,2,0:0:0:0:
248,256,110396,1,2,0:0:0:0:
352,232,110583,1,0,0:0:0:0:
176,200,110677,1,0,0:0:0:0:
176,200,110771,1,0,0:0:0:0:
368,208,110958,1,2,0:0:0:0:
352,144,111146,1,0,0:0:0:0:
344,120,111521,1,0,0:0:0:0:
336,200,111708,1,2,0:0:0:0:
400,320,111896,1,0,0:0:0:0:
424,224,112177,1,0,0:0:0:0:
368,280,112458,1,2,0:0:0:0:
440,272,112646,1,0,0:0:0:0:
400,248,112833,1,2,0:0:0:0:
328,216,113021,1,2,0:0:0:0:
328,216,113396,1,0,0:0:0:0:
392,240,113583,1,2,0:0:0:0:
224,200,113677,1,2,0:0:0:0:
448,264,113771,1,2,0:0:0:0:
448,264,113958,1,2,0:0:0:0:
448,264,114146,1,0,0:0:0:0:
200,216,114521,1,2,0:0:0:0:
240,216,114708,1,0,0:0:0:0:
240,216,114802,1,0,0:0:0:0:
240,216,114896,1,0,0:0:0:0:
312,192,115083,1,2,0:0:0:0:
288,176,115271,1,0,0:0:0:0:
272,160,115646,1,2,0:0:0:0:
272,160,116021,1,0,0:0:0:0:
272,160,116208,1,0,0:0:0:0:
272,160,116396,1,2,0:0:0:0:
240,64,116677,1,2,0:0:0:0:
280,64,116958,1,2,0:0:0:0:
312,184,117146,1,0,0:0:0:0:
312,184,117521,1,6,0:0:0:0:
312,184,117896,1,4,0:0:0:0:
424,256,118177,1,2,0:0:0:0:
368,280,118458,1,2,0:0:0:0:
440,272,118646,1,0,0:0:0:0:
400,248,118833,1,2,0:0:0:0:
328,216,119021,1,2,0:0:0:0:
328,216,119208,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,264,119396,1,2,0:0:0:0:
392,240,119583,1,2,0:0:0:0:
288,256,119677,1,2,0:0:0:0:
448,264,119771,1,2,0:0:0:0:
448,264,119958,1,2,0:0:0:0:
448,264,120146,1,0,0:0:0:0:
448,264,120521,1,2,0:0:0:0:
376,248,120708,1,2,0:0:0:0:
376,248,120896,1,0,0:0:0:0:
376,248,121177,1,2,0:0:0:0:
376,248,121458,1,2,0:0:0:0:
376,248,121646,1,0,0:0:0:0:
376,248,121833,1,2,0:0:0:0:
376,248,122021,1,2,0:0:0:0:
328,248,122208,1,0,0:0:0:0:
248,256,122396,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,240,122583,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,240,122677,1,0,0:0:0:0:
368,208,122771,1,0,0:0:0:0:
368,208,122958,1,2,0:0:0:0:
352,144,123146,1,0,0:0:0:0:
344,120,123521,1,2,0:0:0:0:
344,120,123896,1,0,0:0:0:0:
264,104,124458,1,2,0:0:0:0:
352,184,124646,1,0,0:0:0:0:
248,160,125396,1,0,0:0:0:0:
344,192,125583,1,2,0:0:0:0:
224,176,125677,1,2,0:0:0:0:
328,184,125771,1,2,0:0:0:0:
328,184,125958,1,2,0:0:0:0:
328,184,126146,1,0,0:0:0:0:
328,184,126521,1,2,0:0:0:0:
272,120,126708,1,0,0:0:0:0:
248,152,126896,1,0,0:0:0:0:
248,152,127177,1,2,0:0:0:0:
248,152,127458,1,2,0:0:0:0:
248,144,127646,1,2,0:0:0:0:
248,152,127927,1,2,0:0:0:0:
248,152,128208,1,0,0:0:0:0:
248,152,128396,1,2,0:0:0:0:
312,208,128677,1,2,0:0:0:0:
376,216,128958,5,2,0:0:0:0:
336,240,129146,1,0,0:0:0:0:
376,112,129521,1,6,0:0:0:0:
392,280,129896,1,4,0:0:0:0:
352,288,130271,1,2,0:0:0:0:
352,288,130646,1,0,0:0:0:0:
352,288,130833,1,2,0:0:0:0:
352,288,130927,1,2,0:0:0:0:
352,288,131021,1,2,0:0:0:0:
352,288,131208,1,0,0:0:0:0:
432,288,131396,1,2,0:0:0:0:
328,248,131583,1,2,0:0:0:0:
384,232,131771,1,0,0:0:0:0:
392,288,131958,1,2,0:0:0:0:
248,192,132146,1,0,0:0:0:0:
376,208,132521,1,2,0:0:0:0:
240,176,132708,1,2,0:0:0:0:
344,168,132896,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,128,133271,1,2,0:0:0:0:
344,168,133646,1,0,0:0:0:0:
344,168,133833,1,2,0:0:0:0:
344,168,133927,1,2,0:0:0:0:
352,256,134021,1,2,0:0:0:0:
376,200,134208,1,0,0:0:0:0:
344,184,134396,1,2,0:0:0:0:
288,200,134583,1,0,0:0:0:0:
288,192,134677,1,0,0:0:0:0:
296,208,134771,1,0,0:0:0:0:
360,176,134958,1,2,0:0:0:0:
360,176,135146,1,0,0:0:0:0:
376,200,135521,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,208,135708,1,2,0:0:0:0:
328,200,135896,1,4,0:0:0:0:
368,336,136271,1,2,0:0:0:0:
352,288,136646,1,0,0:0:0:0:
352,288,136833,1,2,0:0:0:0:
352,288,136927,1,2,0:0:0:0:
352,288,137021,1,2,0:0:0:0:
432,288,137208,1,0,0:0:0:0:
352,288,137396,1,2,0:0:0:0:
384,216,137583,1,0,0:0:0:0:
328,248,137771,1,0,0:0:0:0:
368,192,137958,1,2,0:0:0:0:
408,144,138146,1,0,0:0:0:0:
392,160,138521,1,2,0:0:0:0:
392,160,138708,1,2,0:0:0:0:
392,160,138896,1,0,0:0:0:0:
392,160,139271,1,0,0:0:0:0:
392,160,139458,1,2,0:0:0:0:
392,160,139646,1,0,0:0:0:0:
392,160,139833,1,2,0:0:0:0:
392,160,139927,1,2,0:0:0:0:
392,160,140021,1,2,0:0:0:0:
256,192,140208,1,2,0:0:0:0:
360,144,140396,1,0,0:0:0:0:
296,112,140771,1,0,0:0:0:0:
296,112,141146,1,0,0:0:0:0:
296,112,141521,1,6,0:0:0:0:
Labyr
こんにちは。大遅刻して申し訳ありません :(

[General]
  1. NekOniとtasuke's Oniを比べてみて、ノーツ数的にNekOniがInner Oniになるのかな?って感じました。
    SRを見れば差があるのは歴然ですが、最高難易度においてカスタムdiff名が使えるとBNテスト1点の人が言っていた気がするので、
    たすけさんか、BNチェックしてもらう前に事前に確認したほうがいいかもしれません...?
[Kantan]
  1. 00:38:771 - delete 主観5000兆%ですがここの1/1ノーツは違和感を感じました。それと、削ったほうがボーカルが際立つと思いました。
  2. 01:41:771 - ^
[Futsuu]
  1. 00:44:771 (7,8,9) - change k d k 
    ボーカルに沿った配置をされていますが 00:45:521 - にkatを置かないのであれば、00:45:146 - をkatにしたほうが次の小節線のdonを違和感なく叩ける...と思ったのですが、
    そのdonの次に k d k の配置を使っているので、全体的に見直すことになってしまうのが...。
    1小節毎に配色のパターンを変える意図として、
    00:43:271 (2,3,4) - を k k d にして、00:42:896 - から D - k k d - k - d - k d k - - d - k d k - k - d d k - d - - d というのはどうでしょうか。
  2. 01:45:896 - ^
[butter's Muzukashii]
  1. 00:37:177 - move to 00:37:271 - Muzuなので裏の音を拾うよりは目立つ音(ボーカル)に重きを置いて配置すべきだと考えます。
    適用した場合は、直後の d d k d d k d を少し削って周辺とのバランスを取ったほうがいいかもしれません。
  2. 01:40:177 - ^
[tasuke's Oni]
  1. 00:05:583 (11,12) - ctrl+G
    主観5000兆%2 00:05:583 - ここで音程が高くなっているのと、00:05:771 - からdonのほうが流れに沿っているように聞こえます。
  2. 00:11:583 (11,12) - ctrl+G 直後でキック?の音に合わせた配置がされているので、ここでも拾ってあげください
  3. 00:34:458 - move to 00:34:271 - vocalに合わせる意図のムーブです。
  4. 00:37:271 - add note (add kat?) 曲調のせいか直前がボーカルを拾っているのに対し、00:36:896 - から裏の音を拾うのはプレイしていて違和感を感じました。
    doubletにして両方をカバーするのはどうでしょうか。
  5. 00:45:239 - move to 00:45:427 -
    主観5000兆%3 00:45:146 (16,17,18,19,20,21,22) - ここらに関しては、tripletを配置するのであれば裏拍からのほうがノリノリで叩ける気がします。
  6. 00:48:802 - detele, 00:48:708 - change don, and 00:48:896 - add finish
    01:51:521 (44,45,46,1) - と比べたときに、大音符の使い方を統一したほうが纏まりがあってより良くなると思いました。(厳密にいったら00:57:521 (20,21,22,23) - も同じことが言えてしまいますが。)
    提案では大音符を使う案を書いてありますが、使うか使わないかはマッパーの考え方次第だと思います。
  7. 01:37:458 - same as above
  8. 01:40:271 - ^
[NekOni]
  1. Aメロ(00:15:896 - )からの密度がKiai Timeや他のパートに比べて詰まっている印象を受けました。
    連打の詰め方は現状ぐらいが丁度良いと思いますが、恐らく曲調が変わる 00:24:896 - まで休符が無いのが原因かもしれません。
    一例ですが、00:18:614 (61,62,63) - delete などでプレイヤーにお茶を飲ませても良いんじゃないかなって思いました。
  2. 00:25:177 (112,113) - ,00:25:927 (116,117) - ctrl+G 主観5000兆%4 個人的にこっちのほうがしっくりきました
  1. 01:05:114 (171,172,173,174,175,176,177,178,179,180,181,182) - ここ叩いててメッチャ気持ちいいです。大好き
以上です。完成度はとても高いと思います、頑張ってください ;)
Topic Starter
komasy

Labyr wrote:

こんにちは。大遅刻して申し訳ありません :(

[General]
  1. NekOniとtasuke's Oniを比べてみて、ノーツ数的にNekOniがInner Oniになるのかな?って感じました。
    SRを見れば差があるのは歴然ですが、最高難易度においてカスタムdiff名が使えるとBNテスト1点の人が言っていた気がするので、
    たすけさんか、BNチェックしてもらう前に事前に確認したほうがいいかもしれません...?
[Kantan]
  1. 00:38:771 - delete 主観5000兆%ですがここの1/1ノーツは違和感を感じました。それと、削ったほうがボーカルが際立つと思いました。
  2. 01:41:771 - ^
    00:32:396 - が1/1の三連なのでリズムパターンを統一しています
[Futsuu]
  1. 00:44:771 (7,8,9) - change k d k 
    ボーカルに沿った配置をされていますが 00:45:521 - にkatを置かないのであれば、00:45:146 - をkatにしたほうが次の小節線のdonを違和感なく叩ける...と思ったのですが、
    そのdonの次に k d k の配置を使っているので、全体的に見直すことになってしまうのが...。
    1小節毎に配色のパターンを変える意図として、
    00:43:271 (2,3,4) - を k k d にして、00:42:896 - から D - k k d - k - d - k d k - - d - k d k - k - d d k - d - - d というのはどうでしょうか。
  2. 01:45:896 - ^
    00:43:646 - は声が高いのでdとしてしまうのには違和感がありますし、現状でも十分パターンとしても成立、違和感に関しては人それぞれかなぁという感じなのでkeepしておきます
[NekOni]
  1. Aメロ(00:15:896 - )からの密度がKiai Timeや他のパートに比べて詰まっている印象を受けました。
    連打の詰め方は現状ぐらいが丁度良いと思いますが、恐らく曲調が変わる 00:24:896 - まで休符が無いのが原因かもしれません。
    一例ですが、00:18:614 (61,62,63) - delete などでプレイヤーにお茶を飲ませても良いんじゃないかなって思いました。
    ここはフィーリングで置いておきたいです。すべて消してしまうとドラムのdkdkのグルーヴ感がなくなってしまうし、dkkなどだとボーカルを1/4で拾っている部分と差が生まれなくて?となるのでkeepします。
  2. 00:25:177 (112,113) - ,00:25:927 (116,117) - ctrl+G 主観5000兆%4 個人的にこっちのほうがしっくりきました
    なんで今までこっちにしなかったんだろう…ってレベルでしっくりきました
  1. 01:05:114 (171,172,173,174,175,176,177,178,179,180,181,182) - ここ叩いててメッチャ気持ちいいです。大好き
    ありがとうございます :)
以上です。完成度はとても高いと思います、頑張ってください ;)
ありがとうございました!
Chromoxx
check

General
Muzu~Oniのspreadがやっぱりちょっと気になります。
誰かにちょっと低難易度の方のOni作ってもらえると助かります。

NekOni
00:03:427 - unneccesary green line
00:03:521 - ちょっと高い方の速度がいいなと思います。今のままのオーバーラップはちょっと不自然だと感じるので、1.7~2.0はどうでしょうか?
以上

tasuke's Oni
低BPMの方なのでOD5.5はどうでしょうか?
00:14:114 - なんか2回連続のkkkdはちょっと不自然と感じるので01:17:114 - のようにdkkdとかにした方がいいかなと思います。
00:53:114 - ^
以上

butter's Muzukashii
looks good :D

Futsuu
00:27:896 - このパートのdensityをちょっと下げたほうがいいと思います。周りのパートに比べたら音楽の方がリラックスな感じなので。
以上

Kantan
00:29:396 - を00:35:396 - これとのコントラストをとるため、kにすればどうですか?
00:42:896 - は00:03:896 - と01:06:896 - のキアイと同じリズムなのでちょっと変えたほうがいいと思います。
01:18:896 - は00:27:896 - のパートに比べたらdensityがちょっと高いと思います。Futsuuの方が逆なのでちょっと変だと感じました。ちょっと音符を消した方がいいと思います。
01:45:896 - 他のサビと同じことです。
以上

call me back :p
Topic Starter
komasy

Chromoxx wrote:

check

General
Muzu~Oniのspreadがやっぱりちょっと気になります。
誰かにちょっと低難易度の方のOni作ってもらえると助かります。

NekOni
00:03:427 - unneccesary green line
deleted
00:03:521 - ちょっと高い方の速度がいいなと思います。今のままのオーバーラップはちょっと不自然だと感じるので、1.7~2.0はどうでしょうか?
1.8に変更しました
以上

Futsuu
00:27:896 - このパートのdensityをちょっと下げたほうがいいと思います。周りのパートに比べたら音楽の方がリラックスな感じなので。
00:29:021 - delete / 00:29:958 - delete / 00:29:771 (4,5) - ctrl+g / 00:32:021 - delete / 00:35:021 - delete / 00:35:958 - delete / 00:35:771 (17,18) - ctrl+g / 00:38:021 - delete
以上

Kantan
00:29:396 - を00:35:396 - これとのコントラストをとるため、kにすればどうですか?
changed
00:42:896 - は00:03:896 - と01:06:896 - のキアイと同じリズムなのでちょっと変えたほうがいいと思います。
d k ddkから d kkdにするなどしてリズムを変えました
01:18:896 - は00:27:896 - のパートに比べたらdensityがちょっと高いと思います。Futsuuの方が逆なのでちょっと変だと感じました。ちょっと音符を消した方がいいと思います。
2ノーツ消しました
01:45:896 - 他のサビと同じことです。
same
以上

call me back :p
ありがとうございました!
butter0414

Labyr wrote:

こんにちは。大遅刻して申し訳ありません :(

[butter's Muzukashii]
  1. 00:37:177 - move to 00:37:271 - Muzuなので裏の音を拾うよりは目立つ音(ボーカル)に重きを置いて配置すべきだと考えます。
    適用した場合は、直後の d d k d d k d を少し削って周辺とのバランスを取ったほうがいいかもしれません。 移動させた上で、直後のddkddkdをddkdd kに変更しました。
  2. 01:40:177 - ^ ^

以上です。完成度はとても高いと思います、頑張ってください ;)
modありがとうございました!!

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tasuke912

Labyr wrote:

SPOILER
こんにちは。大遅刻して申し訳ありません :(

[General]
  1. NekOniとtasuke's Oniを比べてみて、ノーツ数的にNekOniがInner Oniになるのかな?って感じました。
    SRを見れば差があるのは歴然ですが、最高難易度においてカスタムdiff名が使えるとBNテスト1点の人が言っていた気がするので、
    たすけさんか、BNチェックしてもらう前に事前に確認したほうがいいかもしれません...?
    つまりどういうことでしょうか...? 言いたいことがよくわかりませんでした。
    Mapset内の最高難易度はNekOniなのでカスタムネームは使用可能です
[tasuke's Oni]
  1. 00:05:583 (11,12) - ctrl+G
    主観5000兆%2 00:05:583 - ここで音程が高くなっているのと、00:05:771 - からdonのほうが流れに沿っているように聞こえます。小節を跨いでdkdk続くのは好きになれないのでkeep
  2. 00:11:583 (11,12) - ctrl+G 直後でキック?の音に合わせた配置がされているので、ここでも拾ってあげください この程度のピッチ差であればdkどちらで拾っても問題ないのでは?と思います。例えば00:12:521 (18,19,20,21) - こことかはピッチ通りならkkkkになるところを流れ意識でdを入れています それと同様にこの部分ではdownbeatでdddが連続して曲に対して重くなりすぎるのを避けるために配色を変更しています
  3. 00:34:458 - move to 00:34:271 - vocalに合わせる意図のムーブです。符点リズムを含めることで他パートとの雰囲気の違いを顕著にしています。
  4. 00:37:271 - add note (add kat?) 曲調のせいか直前がボーカルを拾っているのに対し、00:36:896 - から裏の音を拾うのはプレイしていて違和感を感じました。
    doubletにして両方をカバーするのはどうでしょうか。この部分でのdoubletは曲の落ち着いたパートと相性が悪いように思います。また、もう少し広い単位でみればボーカルに完全に寄せているわけではないことが分かると思います
  5. 00:45:239 - move to 00:45:427 -
    主観5000兆%3 00:45:146 (16,17,18,19,20,21,22) - ここらに関しては、tripletを配置するのであれば裏拍からのほうがノリノリで叩ける気がします。
  6. 00:48:802 - detele, 00:48:708 - change don, and 00:48:896 - add finish
    01:51:521 (44,45,46,1) - と比べたときに、大音符の使い方を統一したほうが纏まりがあってより良くなると思いました。(厳密にいったら00:57:521 (20,21,22,23) - も同じことが言えてしまいますが。)
    提案では大音符を使う案を書いてありますが、使うか使わないかはマッパーの考え方次第だと思います。kiai両方揃えてしまうとマンネリ化まっしぐらなので前半では敢えて抜いています。kiai1回だけの曲であれば良い提案だったと思います
  7. 01:37:458 - same as above
  8. 01:40:271 - ^
以上です。完成度はとても高いと思います、頑張ってください ;)

Chromoxx wrote:

SPOILER
check

General
Muzu~Oniのspreadがやっぱりちょっと気になります。
誰かにちょっと低難易度の方のOni作ってもらえると助かります。


tasuke's Oni
低BPMの方なのでOD5.5はどうでしょうか?
00:14:114 - なんか2回連続のkkkdはちょっと不自然と感じるので01:17:114 - のようにdkkdとかにした方がいいかなと思います。
00:53:114 - ^

ODはBPMは低めなものの難易度は一般的なOniと変わらないので標準値のままで行こうとおもいます
Patternは両方fixed


Spreadは今年はこれくらいのギャップのmapsetいくつかランクドしていたような...? この程度の差でDQされた例は見たことが無いです。

以上

Thanks for mods :D

ところで恐らくタイトルは猫+祭りで造語なので一つの単語としても検索できると良いかなと思いました

http://puu.sh/xy0zR/95dae005a6.osu
Topic Starter
komasy
Title changed to "Nekomatsuri"
And we think spread of muzu to oni is acceptable.
GD was uploaded.
Chromoxx
I still feel like the SV in the oni should be nerfed a bit, especially the last one. also the transitions like 01:42:896 - can be kinda awkward too.
otherwise i talked it over a bit with stefan and it seems to be easy enough pattern-wise

call me back~
tasuke912
1.25x is not overdone at all. and i choose not to make speed-up in transitions because it looks awkward.
Chromoxx
it is overdone, when considering the difficulty spread. The muzu is pretty normal difficulty-wise, while the oni uses a bunch of patterns that can be difficult for newer oni players, but adding 1.25x SV on top of all of that is just over the top, considering the difficulty spread. Also the mentioned SV transitions can be awkward to read for players of that level.

This is the conclusion i came to after asking some players between the range of 3000-4000pp for their opinion.
tasuke912
I admit the Oni is hard for newer Oni players but I still think spread is allowable considering Muzukashii has much 1/4s. Also SV transitions depend on playing style; Speed-up can be hard for some players because of change of spacing. mappers can always decide whether use them or not by their preference.
Chromoxx
i don't want to force tasuke to change anything in his diff since it is very solid as it is, but the problem is the fact that it doesn't really add anything to the spread. It is nearly on the same difficulty level as the highest diff, seeing as there are only a few patterns that are actually a lot harder and the added fact that the oni is using SVs which aren't in the highest diff.
There isn't really any leniency here either for reasons like the song being too obscure to map something easier, since i see it very possible to make diff with easier patterns in a natural way.

The best solution would just be to add another oni diff, i won't mind rechecking it directly after being added either.
Otherwise this will stand as a veto for now due to spread issues.
Chromoxx
okay, since you added a new diff now here's a quick recheck:

General:
- rename tasuke's Oni to tasuke's Inner Oni for a more clear difficulty spread

Oni
プレイヤーに易しくするため、あるところで偶数をちょっとだけ遠慮した方がいいと思います。たすけさんの難易度と同じくらい入ってるところもあるので。
00:21:896 - のところは偶数じゃなくてもいけるのでちょっと遠慮してほしいです。
00:12:896 - 00:51:896 - 01:15:896 - のところもd kk k kd kk k kdみたいな配置がいいと思います。最後のキアイ方は密度が高いので今のままでもいいですけど。

以上です :D
Topic Starter
komasy

Chromoxx wrote:

okay, since you added a new diff now here's a quick recheck:

General:
- rename tasuke's Oni to tasuke's Inner Oni for a more clear difficulty spread
fixed

Oni
プレイヤーに易しくするため、あるところで偶数をちょっとだけ遠慮した方がいいと思います。たすけさんの難易度と同じくらい入ってるところもあるので。
00:21:896 - のところは偶数じゃなくてもいけるのでちょっと遠慮してほしいです。
減らしました。
00:12:896 - 00:51:896 - 01:15:896 - のところもd kk k kd kk k kdみたいな配置がいいと思います。最後のキアイ方は密度が高いので今のままでもいいですけど。
00:12:896 - 01:15:896 - 02:18:896 - はd kk k kd kk k kd、サビはd kk k kd kk kkkdという風に易化、02:06:896 - は最高潮の盛り上がりなのでkeep

以上です :D
modありがとうございました!
Chromoxx
looks good, bubbled!
Topic Starter
komasy

Chromoxx wrote:

looks good, bubbled!
thank you very much!
Raiden
Nya
OD6,5? for linearity and stuff

tasuke
00:14:302 (33,34) - ctrl+g for ascending chords? that way you end with kat instead and generate a cool variant from 00:13:552 (27,28) -
00:39:896 - do a smooth sv transition here, the song doesn't drastically change pace
00:53:302 (77,78) - similar to first suggestion
01:42:896 - s m o o t h

butter
00:40:271 (149,150,151,152,153,154,155,156) - these notes are barely hearable, tune up the volume a bit. (or simply delete them and make them a spinner for the sake of spread)
01:43:271 (236,237,238,239,240,241,242,243) - ^

futsuu
00:26:396 (65,66,67) - finishers for diff consistency

that's all from my side
Topic Starter
komasy

Raiden wrote:

Nya
OD6,5? for linearity and stuff
umm I think OD6.5 is little difficult...? keep

futsuu
00:26:396 (65,66,67) - finishers for diff consistency
changed! 00:24:896 (63,64,65,66,67) - D K DDK

that's all from my side
Thank you for modding! :)
butter0414

Raiden wrote:

butter
00:40:271 (149,150,151,152,153,154,155,156) - these notes are barely hearable, tune up the volume a bit. (or simply delete them and make them a spinner for the sake of spread) fixed
01:43:271 (236,237,238,239,240,241,242,243) - ^ ^

that's all from my side
thank you for modding!

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tasuke912
made dkkd instead of kkdk
smoothened SV because two modders recommended that

Sorry for late

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Raiden
butter: the notes at 00:40:271 (149,150,151,152,153,154,155,156) - and 01:43:271 (236,237,238,239,240,241,242,243) - are still barely hearable. Please do at least 50% volume on all of them.
butter0414

Raiden wrote:

butter: the notes at 00:40:271 (149,150,151,152,153,154,155,156) - and 01:43:271 (236,237,238,239,240,241,242,243) - are still barely hearable. Please do at least 50% volume on all of them. Sorry to keep bothering you. fixed.
thank you for modding.

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Raiden
you were not bothering me at all! Sorry if it sounded like that, didn't mean it.

in any case, let's go!
Topic Starter
komasy

Raiden wrote:

you were not bothering me at all! Sorry if it sounded like that, didn't mean it.

in any case, let's go!
Thanks a lot! :)
Topic Starter
komasy
I noticed that I forgot to add GD's mapper name to the tags. "butter0414" and "tasuke912".
Raiden
whoops
Raiden
Re-qualified!
Topic Starter
komasy

Raiden wrote:

Re-qualified!
I hope there is no mistake this time...
Chromoxx
おめでとございニャす
Topic Starter
komasy

Chromoxx wrote:

おめでとございニャす
ありがとうございニャす!
Ozu
congratz danyan
IamKwaN
need metadata reference quoting same artist as current one

because what i found is different

https://chunithm.sega.jp/irodorimidori/song/song13.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofs6L8xNs5k
Topic Starter
komasy

IamKwaN wrote:

need metadata reference quoting same artist as current one

because what i found is different

https://chunithm.sega.jp/irodorimidori/song/song13.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofs6L8xNs5k
Currently used metadata is correct as it is used for official movie titles
IamKwaN
i think it's cv instead of CV in the movie
Topic Starter
komasy

IamKwaN wrote:

i think it's cv instead of CV in the movie


However, as there is no consistency in official notation, I think that there is no problem with either cv or CV.
IamKwaN
i agree
audinor
wheres video
Kin
gratz!
sorry I'm way too late >_>
Topic Starter
komasy

Kin wrote:

gratz!
sorry I'm way too late >_>
thanks :)
no problem~
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