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Jar - ztrout's Visit to The Proctologist

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NoHitter
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General
Add jerico2442 to the Tags

Careful
00:06:298 (1) - Remove new combo
00:07:194 (2) - New combo
00:07:194 (2,3,4,5,6) - Don't stack these, feels lazy IMO.
00:21:746 (1,2) - Ugly overlapping
00:34:059 (1) - This slider has too many repeats IMO. Not to mention the slider is 1/1 long. Change this to multiple notes or sliders.
00:48:388 (1) - ^

Hurts
Don't like the box mapping and the almost exclusively linear sliders.
00:06:298 (1) - Remove new combo
00:07:194 (2) - New combo
00:07:194 (2,3,4,5,6) - Lazy mapping with stacks. Spread them out.
00:21:522 (x) - Add note here. People feel tempted to hit the note here instead of 1/2 later.
00:34:059 (1) - This slider has too many repeats IMO. Not to mention the slider is 1/1 long. Change this to multiple notes or sliders.
00:48:388 (1) - ^

Tears
00:51:074 (3) - [nazi] Don't make this overlap with (2)
00:52:865 (3) - [nazi] ^

The choruses of the first two diffs are the same, except one has smaller circles. Change please.
Mukku
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Mukku
Offsets: 12 and second one 57325 (if the second one actually makes any difference now, since I just moved both around separately.)

lol this song
A8mew
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A8mew
Only problem I could find is the combo colors combined with that top right corner.

Both the dark red and the black approach circles are damned near invisible, if not entirely, up in that black area. No idea how you're supposed to hit that in time.

That said- star.
GabrielRKF
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GabrielRKF
D:
Rokodo
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Rokodo
Love you too babes.

*
Rukario
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Rukario
Mod for the lovely song choice <333

B-Be Careful:
00:30:462 (3,4) - flip horizontally?
00:44:791 (3,4) - ^
00:46:582 (1,2) - if you do the one above please flip these horizontally too

I-It Hurts!!:
Nothing.

jericho2442's Tears:
00:05:164 (3) - align this vertically with the start of (2)
00:44:791 (2) - stack the end point of the slider below the endpoint of the previous one
some unsymmetrical sliders which look kinda eh but I can say okay to those.

Also I note the lack of curved sliders in the first two diffs bothers me, but that's probably just me. Just take note of it.
Also I won't mod taiko sry.
Star~
jericho2442
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jericho2442

Rukarioman wrote:

Mod for the lovely song choice <333


jericho2442's Tears:
00:05:164 (3) - align this vertically with the start of (2) no
00:44:791 (2) - stack the end point of the slider below the endpoint of the previous one might as well
some unsymmetrical sliders which look kinda eh but I can say okay to those. everything is not allways about being symmetrical ;)
Download: Jar - ztrout's Visit to The Proctologist (Jarby) [jericho2442's Tears].osu
Larto
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Larto
The backgrounds and the difficulty names are related to the song, the storyboard is related to the secret meaning and to the singer.
There has been a lot of thought into all the difficulties and the patterns.
It's also not too short.


Man, I'm gonna regret this.
kuyukiP
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kuyukiP
;)
Sakura
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Sakura
NSFW backgrounds, you have to change them.
I dunno if this map can even be ranked, that song doesnt look like something you would see on a ranked map
James2250
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I think people have proven even the worst sounding songs can be ranked >_>

As for backgrounds I don't know anymore...BAT's seem to allow alot of stuff in that I am not sure I agree with, so no comment
whymeman
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Having a background with a some guy's head shoved up a woman's secret place wouldn't be pleasant at all to see.....
Jarby
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Changed the backgrounds.

Sakura Hana wrote:

I dunno if this map can even be ranked, that song doesnt look like something you would see on a ranked map
James2250
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James2250
-Don't really like kiai time during breaks, can't you remove it and start it again after (as you do that anyway) - like jericho's
-Are you really going to have "those" backgrounds now?
-Erm what is with picture at the end..
-Final note sounds better being a finish to me

B-Be Careful:
00:06:283 (1) - remove new combo
00:07:179 (2) - new combo (to keep it consistent with other ones)
00:07:179 (1,2,3,4,5) - kind of boring being all stacked?
00:34:044 (1) - don't like long repeating sliders like this, isn't interesting
00:48:373 (1) - same comment as before

I-It Hurts:
00:06:283 (1) - remove new combo
00:07:179 (2) - new combo
00:07:179 (1,2,3,4,5) - stack is still boring
00:34:044 (1) - same as other difficulty (yes it follows the song but still)
00:48:373 (1) - ^

Jericho's Tears:
01:11:656 (3,4) - seeing as these are aligned why not align 01:10:760 (1,2)?

Taiko:
Looks ok, but aren't long streams with no hitsounds kind of boring? (maybe taiko players don't mind)

I would try and find some backgrounds that somehow fit (and that aren't NSFW)
ignoring the song you get a star~
lepidopodus
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lepidopodus

James2250 wrote:

but aren't long streams with no hitsounds kind of boring?
Seems that's minor ver. of Hataraku. (which is [ddd]dddddd[ddd]dddddd... with BPM 160... [ ] is 1/8.)
Actually I like (dddd)ddddd(dddd)ddddd is better than (dddd)ddddddddd but WHATEVER. ( ( ) is 1/6 here.)
Jarby
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James2250 wrote:

00:06:283 (1) - remove new combo
00:07:179 (2) - new combo (to keep it consistent with other ones)
This has been suggested before and I'm going to deny it again. Take note that everything in that combo is the same pitch. It made sense for me to arrange it like this despite the fact that the start time and length are different. As for everything else: I changed the kiai placement, the backgrounds are fine and I changed jericho's difficulty on the assumption that what he did was not intentional.
lepidopodus
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lepidopodus
SPOILER

Yeah, I'm joking. Sorry.

RandomJibberish
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RandomJibberish
troll

ircmodded

jericho's diff killed
James2250
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Took a while for rebubble :P
RandomJibberish
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WAIT WAIT WAIT

01:12:104 (4,5,6,7) - what is this random 1/3 I didn't notice before I see there
01:14:342 (4,5,6,7) - ^

This is so confusing that I was hitting them with 1/4s and assumed I was getting 100s because I sucked

so yeah fix that

blame Rukario

edit: Blargh
arien666
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arien666

lepidopodus wrote:

Yeah, I'm joking. Sorry.
epic orz
Natteke
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Tags: anime catgirl cat girl jericho2442
How anime, cat, girl and catgirl are relevant to this... song?
And jericho?

also this map is crap
RandomJibberish
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YOU JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND

and you clearly haven't actually played the map if you don't know how catgirl relates at all, even if it is a silly tag

and there used to be a jericho diff
Xgor
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Even if the song is rape..... It has a unrelated BG.... and it has Taiko map that makes no sense whatsoever, there is nothing unrankible...

Exept for that jericho2442 should be removed from tags

pop uguu~
Jarby
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Jarby
This song is actually about ztrot being molested by anime catgirls. If you read into it properly, you'd understand!
James2250
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Xgor wrote:

Exept for that jericho2442 should be removed from tags
pop uguu~
Couldn't a BAT fix that before they ranked anyway, rawr?
Or wait did you want taiko and background fixed too? >_>
Jarby
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Jarby
I'll defend these backgrounds to the grave!
Xgor
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Xgor

James2250 wrote:

Couldn't a BAT fix that before they ranked anyway, rawr?
Or wait did you want taiko and background fixed too? >_>
I asked a BAT and if was fine to pop over that.
And yet, I only popped due to that, the rest was things that just bugged me

Anyways, re-bub
Froslass
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I wonder if this is going to get good rating * shot*


Oh well, star, awesome song and map lol
Mogsy
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Weird. I like it.

Ranked.
Charles445
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Thanks, now I won't be able to sleep for a month.
James2250
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Hey it got ranked~

Rating will be interesting lol (yeah I know it doesn't mean anything)
JamesLeao
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JamesLeao
oh god i love this shit (ugh
Faust
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This is amazing. 10 stars from me, serious.
Derekku
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James2250 wrote:

Rating will be interesting lol (yeah I know it doesn't mean anything)


Yeah... we'll see where this goes... (also I'm surprised that WTF was still at the bottom)
arien666
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Derekku wrote:

James2250 wrote:

Rating will be interesting lol (yeah I know it doesn't mean anything)


Yeah... we'll see where this goes... (also I'm surprised that WTF was still at the bottom)
orz
Below 5 is...



IMPOSSIBLE IS NOTHING<JK ;_;
RandomJibberish
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RandomJibberish
JARBY STOLE MY CROWN

Also I swear a few days ago WTF overtook Timebomb. OH WELL~
Kurai
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wtf o_o
Larto
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Larto
Mogsy stole MY crown! =(
Curisu
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stress
NotShinta
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NotShinta
this is the best rating ever

nice map though
yeahyeahyeahhh
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rofl.gif
KIA
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*facedesk*
You're all MAD :cry:
lepidopodus
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This map will be legend lol
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rating record
arien666
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arien666

roxkyuubiforever wrote:

rating record
needs 1 votes
Conclusion: orz
Froslass
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Froslass

roxkyuubiforever wrote:

rating record
ouran's bad apple got 3.8 ;_;

(and our special place got 3.9 *cough*)


Oh well, this time it's because of the song. ratingfags </3
NotShinta
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Blue Dragon wrote:

ouran's bad apple got 3.8 ;_;
was that based on like the first 5 votes or wot

But yeah, no, downvoters are actually quite justified here. what
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KIA
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btw, I voted 10 :D/
Froslass
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NotShinta wrote:

Blue Dragon wrote:

ouran's bad apple got 3.8 ;_;
was that based on like the first 5 votes or wot

But yeah, no, downvoters are actually quite justified here.
first 30 voters actually, when it got 50 it was like 4.7
ouranhshc
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>_> @BD
maay
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maay
dude this beatmap rocks
TKiller
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TKiller
I don't love you anymore, Jar.

This horrible map is a one more spit in the face all of the unknown mappers across the osu! who are desperate to get a much better map ranked not really, and if it really was the reason, you wouldn't be the one at fault, but:

It's not fun to play.

It's not funny for the overwhelming lot of players here.

It's horribly mapped.

It's not even a song.
NotShinta
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TKiller wrote:

I don't love you anymore, Jar.

This horrible map is a one more spit in the face all of the unknown mappers across the osu! who are desperate to get a much better map ranked not really, and if it really was the reason, you wouldn't be the one at fault, but:

It's not fun to play.

It's not funny for the overwhelming lot of players here.

It's horribly mapped.

It's not even a song.
Lol.
Natteke
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Well yeah, it deserves its rating.
inb4 NotShinta comments on every post.
Mogsy
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While I agree that it isn't the best map/song out there, there are much worse ranked. Not to mention the fact that this isn't serious by a longshot. So while it doesn't deserve high ratings (I'd probably give it around a 7), it isn't the scourge of mapping by any means. By the way, the map plays just fine. 'Fun' is in the eye of the beholder.

y so srs
NotShinta
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NotShinta

Natteke wrote:

Well yeah, it deserves its rating.
inb4 NotShinta comments on every post.
try and stop me
ouranhshc
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ouranhshc

NotShinta wrote:

Natteke wrote:

Well yeah, it deserves its rating.
inb4 NotShinta comments on every post.
try and stop me
that can be arranged
Natteke
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Mogsworth wrote:

While I agree that it isn't the best map/song out there, there are much worse ranked. Not to mention the fact that this isn't serious by a longshot. So while it doesn't deserve high ratings (I'd probably give it around a 7), it isn't the scourge of mapping by any means. By the way, the map plays just fine. 'Fun' is in the eye of the beholder.
y so srs
You don't need to compare this to other maps. If they're bad, try to make the new one better, and not just say "Well, there are maps worse than this so it's ok" and instead of a good map we are getting this miserable piece of...map? Uh, I'm bothering way too much, sry.
TKiller
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Mogsworth wrote:

y so srs
cause ranking process loves to get "serious" when it's not about joke maps.

No, no, no offence to anyone expept Jar who could made this map more fun to play (yes you could), but I'm surely gonna remember this case and add it to the cases I'll bring up if there'll be a problem with ranking a serious map I'm interested in.

So.
Mogsy
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I personally found this enjoyable to play. Partly due to the absurdity of it all, but there were no real errors with it. I apply the same standards for joke maps that I apply to every other map. This map is in no way, shape, or form perfect or appealing to the entire masses (like every map), but it adds a tad more variety to the database.

Of course it could've been better, almost every single map can be improved. The fact of the matter is that this is rankable but doesn't meet your expectations. Sometimes that happens.

Besides, it works with the source material. I hate bringing up the "other things are worse so it's ok" argument, myself, but it does apply here. If you think you can honestly come up with a better map than what they've got down, you go do it. I thought it worked well for the source material without getting ridiculously stupid. Excuse me for having an opinion that isn't the same as yours.

In all honesty, I like this map the way it is. It's a bit derivative in its execution, but it works for this, creating a dichotomy of something we're familiar with playing with something most are definitely not used to hearing. I still applied my standard protocol to modding this map, and sure, it might be the lowest-rated map, but it's still rankable.
TKiller
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Mogsworth wrote:

I personally found this enjoyable to play. Partly due to the absurdity of it all, but there were no real errors with it. I apply the same standards for joke maps that I apply to every other map. This map is in no way, shape, or form perfect or appealing to the entire masses (like every map), but it adds a tad more variety to the database.

Of course it could've been better, almost every single map can be improved. The fact of the matter is that this is rankable but doesn't meet your expectations. Sometimes that happens.

Besides, it works with the source material. I hate bringing up the "other things are worse so it's ok" argument, myself, but it does apply here. If you think you can honestly come up with a better map than what they've got down, you go do it. I thought it worked well for the source material without getting ridiculously stupid. Excuse me for having an opinion that isn't the same as yours.
I guess we're getting each other's points just right.

And no futher point in discussing on this matter either, I think.

Ok.
Mogsy
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TKiller wrote:

I guess we're getting each other's points just right.

And no futher point in discussing on this matter either, I think.

Ok.
Agreed.

Still, this map's rating is legendary. <3
K3nsh1n_H1mur4
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Funny Facts.

The 10 worse ranked maps (by User Rating):

1º - Jar - ztrout's Visit to The Proctologist Date: Nov 27, 2010 Map by Jarby

2º - Beck - Timebomb Date: Oct 9, 2007 Map by IcePagoda

3º - OK Go - WTF? Date: Nov 11, 2010 Map by RandomJibberish

4º - Lily Allen - Smile Date: Oct 7, 2007 Map by meyou22

5º - Ken Clinger - Babilfrenzo Date: Oct 22, 2007 Map by Fraeon

6º - Spinsmith - Sweet Religion Date: Dec 4, 2009 Map by JarJarJacob

7º - La Roux - Cover My Ears Date: Feb 14, 2010 Map by JarJarJacob

8º - tiger yamato - tiger YAMATO Date: Nov 2. 2007 Map by qudfo9

9º - Maroon 5 - Sunday Morning Date: Oct 9, 2007 Map by eyup

10º - Lisa Locheed - The Raccoons - Run with us Date: Oct 29, 2007 Map by Bonesnake

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

10 maps. 6 from 2007, we can forget them. Old times, no distance snapping. 1 from 2009, Jarby-made. 3 from 2010, 2 Jarby-made.

Other funny fact is who ranked the maps. In the first 20 maps, ordered by user rating, the 2007 doesn't have that info. But the maps who have, you see this:

Mogsworth: 3 maps Ranked
Larto: 2 maps Ranked

And Rolled, ztrot, Cecilthemos and minyeob with 1 map ranked.

Just funny facts. No conclusions or opinions about this.
Froslass
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k3nsh1n_H1mur4 wrote:

Funny Facts.

The 10 worse ranked maps (by User Rating):

1º - Jar - ztrout's Visit to The Proctologist Date: Nov 27, 2010 Map by Jarby

2º - Beck - Timebomb Date: Oct 9, 2007 Map by IcePagoda

3º - OK Go - WTF? Date: Nov 11, 2010 Map by RandomJibberish

4º - Lily Allen - Smile Date: Oct 7, 2007 Map by meyou22

5º - Ken Clinger - Babilfrenzo Date: Oct 22, 2007 Map by Fraeon

6º - Spinsmith - Sweet Religion Date: Dec 4, 2009 Map by JarJarJacob

7º - La Roux - Cover My Ears Date: Feb 14, 2010 Map by JarJarJacob

8º - tiger yamato - tiger YAMATO Date: Nov 2. 2007 Map by qudfo9

9º - Maroon 5 - Sunday Morning Date: Oct 9, 2007 Map by eyup

10º - Lisa Locheed - The Raccoons - Run with us Date: Oct 29, 2007 Map by Bonesnake

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

10 maps. 6 from 2007, we can forget them. Old times, no distance snapping. 1 from 2009, Jarby-made. 3 from 2010, 2 Jarby-made.

Other funny fact is who ranked the maps. In the first 20 maps, ordered by user rating, the 2007 doesn't have that info. But the maps who have, you see this:

Mogsworth: 3 maps Ranked
Larto: 2 maps Ranked

And Rolled, ztrot, Cecilthemos and minyeob with 1 map ranked.

Just funny facts. No conclusions or opinions about this.
IMO this map isn't really really really bad, but yeah, the song hurts my ears of how bad it is. Though I don't vote because of the song. I gave it a 7 I think.
Same with Cover My Ears and Spinsmith maps. It's just songtrolling, the maps aren't bad. :/
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Kakarotto_old
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Well, i need to tell something:
"MORRA SEIYA SEU VIADINHOOO!"
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*facepalm*
Jarby
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Blue Dragon wrote:

It's just songtrolling, the maps aren't bad. :/
Cover My Ears, Sweet Religion and ztrout's Visit to The Proctologist are all mediocre maps that are not worth defending. Joke maps, if you will. One day I will have the page of ranked maps with the lowest user rating all to myself.
Froslass
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Jarby wrote:

Blue Dragon wrote:

It's just songtrolling, the maps aren't bad. :/
Cover My Ears, Sweet Religion and ztrout's Visit to The Proctologist are all mediocre maps that are not worth defending. Joke maps, if you will. One day I will have the page of ranked maps with the lowest user rating all to myself.
They are mediocre, but they shouldn't be THAT bad on ratings.
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Blue Dragon wrote:

It's just songtrolling, the maps aren't bad. :/
K2J
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I will never understand you guys. I'm beginning to think that's not a bad thing.
NotShinta
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Teehee, more taking this seriously
Jarby
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Oh, right, I sort of missed a few pages. Let's answer some questions!

TKiller wrote:

It's not fun to play.

It's not funny for the overwhelming lot of players here.

It's horribly mapped.

It's not even a song.
Fun is subjective.

I don't care about the overwhelming lot of players you speak of. At least 31 people so far have enjoyed it to some extent and that's okay by me. This is my map and it adheres to the ranking criteria, so it should at least be seen as acceptable. I'm not making changes to please anyone but myself. And that's how we roll.

That's not a constructive point. See the last two lines.

Actually, it is a song. 2deep4u bro

tl;dr: "I DON'T LIKE THIS MAP" "HATERS GONNA HATE"
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