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NicoNicoDouga - Yui's Gourmet Race

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Topic Starter
AlMod
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 12 июля 2011 г. at 16:57:25

Artist: NicoNicoDouga
Title: Yui's Gourmet Race
Tags: yui k-on farucon pan niconicodouga
BPM: 187,25
Filesize: 6444kb
Play Time: 01:00
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (2,58 stars, 67 notes)
  2. Hard (4,46 stars, 110 notes)
  3. Insane (5 stars, 255 notes)
Download: NicoNicoDouga - Yui's Gourmet Race
Download: NicoNicoDouga - Yui's Gourmet Race (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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It's not actually my first map, but I really want it to be ranked ^_^

Insane mapped over the voice :3

Enjoy!
Sigillum
m/
kozu ne stavit bleat' m/
ThePal
Nice one. :) Just too bad that's it's this short at this point. I think that you should've waited a little before posting this, since it's not as long as I know the song. Else, nice job. :)
vodichka
I LIVE IT :o
Kaya-_old
hoojak
Nyasich
Star!
kaxaru
zvezda
Mizu_banned
>w<
Topic Starter
AlMod
Voyage canceled for a some time :) now it's Yui's Gourmet Race
Kotya
:>
Legalist
Awesome map :3 Star
RoboCoooL
nice ;)
Mizu_banned
IRC modding :?
Fapfrit
Ок

Modding:

General:
- Уменьши стек (4/9)
- Мне не нравятся твои тайм секции. их дохуя на такой короткой мапе, причём совершенно в ненужных местах. объяснительная :3

Timing:
- Вроде норм, так и быть

Easy:
- Approach (-1)
- Уменьшить Velocity (1,10)
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00:00:090 (1) - закончи на 00:02:013
00:06:820 (4,5) - на изи не должно быть 1/2, удаляй #4
00:05:218 (3) - сомневаюсь в ранкабельности вот этого "чуда" + новое комбо
00:07:782 (1) - поганенько с ритмом + он корявый и безформенный
00:09:064 (2) - "безформенное чудо"
00:10:025 (3) - новое комбо
00:18:038 (1) - "безформенное чудо"
00:20:602 (3) - новое комбо
00:27:654 (2) - сократи слайде (00:27:974). спиннер начни с 00:28:295, закончи 00:30:218
00:41:756 (4) - новое комбо
00:42:397 (1) - убрать новое комбо
00:43:679 (1) - "безформенное чудо"
00:45:602 (3) - "безформенное чудо"
00:48:807 (1) - "безформенное чудо"
00:50:730 (3) - "безформенное чудо"
00:56:500 (2) - удалить круг, а спинер сделать по аналогии с предыдущим
00:58:423 (1,2,3) - мне не нравится расположение кругов
01:00:346 (4) - удалить круг, спинер начать с #4. ты понел
<Sound>
W - Whostle. E - Finish. R - Clap
Time (00:00:00) - exact time of bit
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00:00:090 (spinner) - удаляй Е. ни к чему
00:02:654 - Е
00:03:936 - Е
00:07:141 - удали Е
00:07:782 - W+E
Хотя толку звук модить, если мапа корявая пока по крайней мере

Normal+ :
- Вот где ты видел Normal с Approach 7/11. делай 5 максимум
- Overall (-1)
- Хитсаунды мне не нравятся, но с модом звука повременим
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00:00:090 (spinner) - закончи на 00:02:013
00:03:936 (3) - корявый
00:04:577 (1) - убрать новое комбо
00:05:218 (2,3) - корявая поебень
00:06:500 (1) - коряво + убрать новое комбо
00:11:628 (1,2,3) - на одном месте. мне не нравится
00:19:320 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3) - это нормал+? как же ты ошибаешься
00:37:910 (3) - продли слайдер до 00:38:231
00:45:602 (1) - убрать новое комбо
00:46:243 (1) - новое комбо
00:48:166 (1) - убрать новое комбо
00:48:807 (1) - новое комбо
00:50:731 (4) - убрать новое комбо
00:51:372 (3) - удалить круг, на его место спиннер
00:55:859 (1) - убрать новое комбо
00:56:500 (6) - новое комбо
00:58:423 (1) - убрать новое комбо
00:59:064 (6) - новое комбо
01:00:987 (1) - убрать новое комбо
01:01:628 (3) - удалить круг, на его место спиннер

Insane:
- HP Drain (-1)
- Approach (-1)
- Slider Velocity (1,70)
- Distance Spaicing (1,1). 1,2 перебор с такой интенсивностью
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00:01:211 (1) - удалить новое комбо
00:02:013 (1) - удалить новое комбо
00:03:615 (5,1) - спейсинг
00:04:897 (1) - удалить новое комбо
00:08:423 (1) - корявая хуйня + убрать 1 повтор, а дальше придумай что-нибудь
00:09:705 (3,1,3,4,5,6) - коху
00:13:551 (4) - добавить 1 повтор или продлить
00:15:314 (2) - удалить новое комбо
00:16:436 (4,1) - спейсинг
00:22:525 (1) - удалить новое комбо
00:23:647 (1) - удалить новое комбо
00:23:888 (3,1) - хуёвый спесинг, да
00:24:609 - добавить круг
00:25:410 - добавить круг
00:25:731 (2) - новое комбо
00:26:212 (1) - удалить новое комбо
00:27:493 - добавить круг
00:29:577 (6) - корявый говнослайдер
00:30:057 - добавить круг + новое комбо начать с него
00:30:859 (4) - новое комбо
00:33:904 - "слушай голос мапы". добавь круг
00:34:545 - добавь круг
00:36:468 - добавь круг
00:37:109 - добавь круг
00:39:192 (4,1) - спейсинг
00:40:795 (1) - удали новое комбо
00:41:115 (2) - - новое комбо
00:41:756 (1) - удали новое комбо
00:43:359 - добавить круг
у тебя дохуя ошибок, мне надоело. поправь эти, потом посмотрим + меня напрягают хитсаунды, новые комбо, местами спейсинг и расположение круговслайдеров в некоторых местах на всех дифках пиздецблять


Возможно, если бы ты не мапал мою любимую Юи, я был бы чуть-чуть помягче. я вот вам правда
SPOILER
Воспринимай критику правильно. и если опять будешь твердить мне, что на таких мапах "можно ломать спейсинг" - больше модить тебя не буду
Topic Starter
AlMod

Famfrit wrote:

Ок

Modding:

тут полезная инфа

у тебя дохуя ошибок, мне надоело. поправь эти, потом посмотрим + меня напрягают хитсаунды, новые комбо, местами спейсинг и расположение круговслайдеров в некоторых местах на всех дифках пиздецблять


Возможно, если бы ты не мапал мою любимую Юи, я был бы чуть-чуть помягче. я вот вам правда
SPOILER
Воспринимай критику правильно. и если опять будешь твердить мне, что на таких мапах "можно ломать спейсинг" - больше модить тебя не буду
Ок, спасибо :3
Topic Starter
AlMod
Еще по поводу мода, в частности инсейна: я мапал не по музыке, а по болтовне Юи, поэтому там где "перемапь", "добавь круг" я игнорил, уже не обессудь.
Neod
star
Cat
КОШАЧЬЯЗВЕЗДАКАПСОМ
_Angel
star
Zorlok_
Starred~
Hellzero
Star за няшный инс :o
Saten
Untan~

00:16:596: How about adding a circle here?

Star~ :)
dlovan
Nice map :)
Wuiss
Via IRC~
Shiro
General
All diffs start at the same point but don't have the same lead-in. Make that lead-in 2 seconds for all diffs.

Easy
I'm worried about the slider patterns and spinner spam in this diff.
00:10:666 (2) - Such a kick slider is too confusing to play for an Easy diff imo.
(suggestion) 00:12:910 (1,2) - I don't think these sliders actually fit the song, because their end match pretty much nothing... Make them circles instead ? (only one circle in the beginning) It will make the pattern a bit easier to play, which can be good because this diff is not much beginner-friendly.
00:28:295 (1) - This sounds better if you extend it by 1/2 imo.
00:30:538 (1) - This note appears too soon after the spinner imo. Moreover, it sounds weird, and I can't see what it is mapped on. At least remove the repeat and move the slider 1/1 forward.
(suggestion) 00:42:397 (3,4) - make a repeat slider ? you made a repeat slider previously for this part of the music
(suggestion) 00:53:936 (1,1,1) - This might be a bit too hard for an Easy diff... Remove the note ?

Normal+
Name this Hard. This is way too hard for a Normal. And with higher difficulty settings, it will be a pretty nice Hard~ I suggest AR+2 and OD+2.
00:12:910 (1,2,3) - This pattern sounds extremely weird to me.

Insane
00:08:423 (5,1) - This is extremely confusing: the placement makes the player think that (5) has 2 repeats, but it actually has only one and the spacing becomes a jump.I suggest you stack (1) under (5).
00:26:372 (5,6) - Unstack ? For now they just look like (6) is right after (5) in a continuous 1/4 stream.
(suggestion) 00:42:397 (1,2) - I suggest you switch them, because the spacing is a bit confusing due to the placement for (1) so close to the previous note.
00:43:679 - Until there, I found the triples very badly used and surprising :/ but after that point it becomes very pleasant to play
Topic Starter
AlMod

Odaril wrote:

- mod text -
thanks! :)
Garven
As per your request:

[Easy]
00:02:654 (1) - Kind of soon after a spinner for a difficulty like this. Maybe have it more towards the center to start.
00:07:141 (2) - Not a fan of stacks in easy diffs - especially when sliders are involved.
00:09:064 (2,1) - Spacing
00:14:192 (3) - Maybe have this slider facing up so it's not overlapping with the 1?
00:19:320 (2) - Eeh, may be confusing as to when this is going to end. I'd try mapping something else.
00:30:859 (1) - Same thing as earlier.
00:37:911 (1) - ^
00:58:423 (1) - ^
Spinners felt over-used. Maybe try mapping through some of them (especially the consecutive ones)

[Hard]
Circle size -1
Mostly okay, but the spinners felt over-used again, hehe.

[Insane]
00:14:513 (1) - Remove new combo
00:17:237 (1) - ^
00:18:038 (4) - New combo
00:19:320 (1) - Remove new combo
00:21:243 (1) - ^
Anyway, try to follow that combo pattern. Right now it feels sort of sporadic.
00:42:077 (5,1) - Don't like this spacing
00:53:134 (2,1) - ^
01:00:987 (3,1,2,3,1) - This is a pain to read correctly. Please configure them differently.

And there you go.
Topic Starter
AlMod

Garven wrote:

SPOILER
As per your request:

[Easy]
00:02:654 (1) - Kind of soon after a spinner for a difficulty like this. Maybe have it more towards the center to start.
00:07:141 (2) - Not a fan of stacks in easy diffs - especially when sliders are involved.
00:09:064 (2,1) - Spacing
00:14:192 (3) - Maybe have this slider facing up so it's not overlapping with the 1?
00:19:320 (2) - Eeh, may be confusing as to when this is going to end. I'd try mapping something else.
00:30:859 (1) - Same thing as earlier.
00:37:911 (1) - ^
00:58:423 (1) - ^
Spinners felt over-used. Maybe try mapping through some of them (especially the consecutive ones)

[Hard]
Circle size -1
Mostly okay, but the spinners felt over-used again, hehe.

[Insane]
00:14:513 (1) - Remove new combo
00:17:237 (1) - ^
00:18:038 (4) - New combo
00:19:320 (1) - Remove new combo
00:21:243 (1) - ^
Anyway, try to follow that combo pattern. Right now it feels sort of sporadic.
00:42:077 (5,1) - Don't like this spacing
00:53:134 (2,1) - ^
01:00:987 (3,1,2,3,1) - This is a pain to read correctly. Please configure them differently.

And there you go
Thanks for mod!
8Ball
хуN~
Garven
I think the timing is off at 00:43:679 -
I got a second offset with the same BPM at 43,657, but I'm never very accurate with offset changes.
Can you get someone to check on this? :x
Topic Starter
AlMod

Garven wrote:

I think the timing is off at 00:43:679 -
I got a second offset with the same BPM at 43,657, but I'm never very accurate with offset changes.
Can you get someone to check on this? :x
I've checked it with some guys from russian, updated :)
Jaffar
да это же
mycodenameiskai
Megaparadox
стар ё маё >_>
Garven
[Easy]
00:43:669 - Uh, make sure you put a .5x slider speed back in here. :P
Topic Starter
AlMod

Garven wrote:

[Easy]
00:43:669 - Uh, make sure you put a .5x slider speed back in here. :P
fixed with a light speed D:
Kert
[Overall]
начиная с 00:43:669 - немного потише хитсаунды мб? просто даже в колонках громковато звучит

[Easy]
00:28:295 (1) - можешь что-нибудь вместо спиннера замапать? их просто сильно много, скучновато
00:58:412 (1) - удалишь слайдер и замапаешь часть до конца, начиная с 00:59:053?

[Hard]
00:25:731 (1) - может закончить его на 00:27:013?
и добавить ноту на 00:27:333
и убрать эту) - 00:27:974 (2)

[Insane]
00:24:769 (1) - немного бы подальше..
и вот тут ощущается что не хватает ноты - 00:25:410
и тут - 00:43:359

также комбо в конце инсейна мне показались странными.. слишком цветастыми
D:
00:43:989 (1) - del
00:44:310 (3) - new
00:44:470 (1) - del
00:44:951 (4) - new
00:45:271 (1) - del
00:45:592 (1) - del
00:46:072 (7) - add
00:46:553 (1) - del
00:46:874 (1) - add
00:47:034 (1) - del
00:47:515 (4) - add
00:47:835 (4) - del
00:48:797 (1) - del
00:49:598 (6) - add
00:49:758 (1) - del
00:50:239 (6) - add
00:52:162 (4) - add
00:52:322 (1) - del
00:52:803 (6) - add
00:52:963 (1) - del
00:54:726 (5) - add
00:54:886 (1) - del
00:55:367 (5) - add
00:55:527 (1) - del
00:56:489 (1) - del
00:57:130 (1) - add
00:57:611 (1) - del
00:57:931 (4) - add
00:58:092 (1) - del
00:59:854 (4) - add
01:00:015 (1) - del
01:00:495 (5) - add
01:00:656 (1) - del
01:01:617 (1) - del
Garven
Sorry 'bout that.
Kyonko Hizara
:)
Topic Starter
AlMod
bubble fall down due to update :<
Garven
There's no need to update your map for fear of graveyarding when it's bubbled. >_>
Topic Starter
AlMod
:oops: sorry D:
ZLOdeuka-
Gooo Ranked :3
NicoKun
nice
~star
batman_old
star
blissfulyoshi
This map has been here for along time... Time to shake off the dust and hopefully rank it.

Remember, I am only saying suggestions, you are free to change what you want, but please give a reason if you don't want to change something.

Easy:
Normal mod:
00:07:141 (2) - move this up 1 grid(lvl3) to align with the end of 2 (this is fairly noticeable since it is a straight line)
00:10:987 (2,3,4) - it would be nice if you rearrange these notes so 2 does not touch the red slider and 4 does not touch 1 (It would be even better if you can form a nice shape here)
00:23:166 (1,1,1) - spinner spams like this are fairly boring, so I suggest removing 2 of them and map some of it
00:33:423 (1,1) - ^ same scenario as above
00:53:925 (1,1) - ^

Hard:
Normal mod:
00:14:833 (5) - bring this note up a bit so that it does not touch 2
00:28:295 (1) - make this slider have a smoother curve (looks fairly bad right now)
00:37:910 (3) - since the red combo before this was a symmetrical pattern, move this center to the y-axis to make this a symmetrical pattern
00:38:872 (2) - that slider curve is really shapr and doesn't really look that great imo
00:41:756 (6) - align with end of 5?
00:42:397 (1) - place on the end of 5? (looks a little cleaner this way imo)
00:48:797 (1,3) - don't like the way these notes overlap
00:59:053 (1,3) - ^

Insane:
Normal mod:
00:06:500 (1,2,3) - flip this pattern vertically (over x-axis) to prevent 1 from overlapping with the previous combo
00:08:904 (1) - catmull sliders tend not to look that great, I suggest making this bezier
00:45:111 (4,5,1,2,1) - whyy did you have to use such a cruel pattern? (I don't like it, but it is okay I guess.....)
00:54:726 (5,6,1) - move this stack so that is not under the red 2 (looks a little messy right now)

Combo mod:
00:15:314 (5) - new combo to follow the lyrics?
00:46:072 (2) - since you seem to start each stanza in this section with a new combo, add a new combo here pls

There are quite a few minor things that annoy me. Still, I think the thing that needs the most is Easy because the spinner spam is not fun at all. Regardless, message me whenever you make the changes and I'll recheck and hopefully rebubble. Star.
Topic Starter
AlMod
thanks for mod, working on it! :)
Topic Starter
AlMod
Ookay, here we go

blissfulyoshi wrote:

Easy:
All done

Hard:
All done, except off:
00:41:756 (6) - align with end of 5? - don't really get what do you mean, it placed with spacing well
00:48:797 (1,3) - don't like the way these notes overlap - I decided to skip that one's
00:59:053 (1,3) - ^

Insane:
All done, except of:
00:45:111 (4,5,1,2,1) - whyy did you have to use such a cruel pattern? (I don't like it, but it is okay I guess.....) - really - dunno, but map is very short, so it must have such patterns
blissfulyoshi
Remodding time!!!

You might want to add a blank storyboard at the end so everyone can see the end of the video.

Easy:
Normal mod:
00:07:141 (2) - lower stack leniency by 1 to make this look nicer
00:11:628 (3,4) - it would look nice if these notes did not overlap with 1
00:38:551 (1) - distance snap pls

Hard:
Normal mod:
00:22:205 (2) - the pattern looks neater when you place it on below the y-coordinates of 1 and 3 like so
00:38:872 (2) - same as before
00:41:756 (6) - basically, move this down 1 grid (lvl 3)

Combo mod:
00:50:720 (1) - Why does this have a new combo and 01:00:976 (4) does not? I advise you make them consistent

Insane:
Normal mod:
00:07:782 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2) - This whole section feels convoluted with so many overlaps. If you can, please make this area nicer
00:11:948 (2,3) - looks slightly better if you reverse the selection here
00:14:513 (4) - this slow down does not fit for me, so I suggest you remove it
00:27:654 (1) - another slowdown that I felt was out of place
01:00:976 (3,1) - since you don't have these half note stacks anywhere else in the section, they feel a little weird. I would probably spread these notes out

Things are looking a little bit better, but there are still some aesthetic issues here and there. Tell me when you are done making changes and I'll recheck.
Topic Starter
AlMod
Whew, seem that all done for now :)

But:

blissfulyoshi wrote:

Hard:
Normal mod:
00:38:872 (2) - same as before forget to say in last post, this one slider follows yui's falldown animation, so if it real i want not to change this

Insane:
Normal mod:
00:14:513 (4) - this slow down does not fit for me, so I suggest you remove it replaced with basic notes
00:27:654 (1) - another slowdown that I felt was out of place same as prev
blissfulyoshi
Sorry for the delay, was a little busy with rl.

I guess you don't want the sb. Besides that, the map is almost there xD. Here are just a few more things. I'll hopefully rebubble afterward

Easy: looks fine now

Hard:
00:40:474 (3) - looks slightly messy here with 00:38:872 (2) slightly overlapping it
00:50:720 (1) and 01:00:976 (1) - I personally wanted you to remove the new combos here to be consistent with 00:45:592 (4) (sorry for being vague last time)

Insane:
00:26:372 (5,6) - flip these 2 sliders vertically so 00:26:852 (6,4) don't overlap
01:01:136 (1,2,3) - spacing?

Most of these things are small things to make the map look better since there are some parts that still look a little messy. If you want to fix more things on your own, feel free to go ahead. As I stated, before, I'll probably rebubble soon xD.
Topic Starter
AlMod

blissfulyoshi wrote:

--modding text--
All Done :)
blissfulyoshi
T_T keep forgetting to check timing. (No need for kds, since I should have done this with the previous mods)

Try using this timing for the whole song.
BPM:187.25
Offset: 91
Tell me how it goes. If you change it, resnap all the notes and make sure all the slider lengths are right. Afterward, I'll be happy to rebubble (assuming I don't find more things xD)
Topic Starter
AlMod
Seem to be all finished now, timing is ok :3
blissfulyoshi
Why do I keep forgetting things? T_T (Again, no kds pls)

Not an error, but since I know some people ask about this, change the audio lead in time to exactly 2000 for all diffs instead of 2007 xD.

Fix and I'll rebubble.
Topic Starter
AlMod
Done
blissfulyoshi
Sorry for all the delays.

Let us get this thing rolling again.
jericho2442
Easy
00:33:415 (1) - this could do with having a liiiittle more space from the note before it, so it follows your spacing better
00:55:204 (2,1) - having these two notes overlapping like they are would make a new player want to click too fast, and this is a easy, i advise to move the (1) to the left untill its not overlapped anymore and looks to follow the nice steady timing pattern

Hard
00:37:901 (3) - i would advise to turn this into a single note, it dont really suit as a slider

Insane
00:01:132 (7) - i really advise to remove this note, 1/4 at this point does not suit,
(suggestion) 00:08:902 (1) - not really keen on this being stacked under the other slider, maybe unstack it so its easier to read the timing?
00:14:189 (3,4,5) - this spacing played really bad, i would advise you to use the same DS you used in the combo before for this one
00:16:593 - at this point your following the vocal, yet here is a vocal note and you dont map it, it feels extremely weird when playing, i advise to add a note here so it fully follows the vocals,
00:20:678 (2) - i advise to remove this note due to the vocal only does 1/2 here yet you map 1/4, it dont really suit
00:23:962 (7,1,2,3) - the way (1,2,3) go back into the combo before does not really play good, it would play much better if you moved these three notes so they was more visible
00:27:167 (1,2,3,4) - broken spacing here, its really not advised to have 2 completely different timings to the identical spacing within one combo and sooo close to each other, i really advise you to space these according to the correct timing and spacing
00:42:387 (1,2,3) - tbh these double speed sliders play really bad, and the map would be better if you made them normal speed :/

00:43:669 - 01:03:535 - uh....from here on recheck all your combo's i really cant make sense on what any of them are following and thats never a good sign, dont really kno what to say over this section except from....check every combo and make sure they have an consistent pattern and are following something readable

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sorry gonna have to pop untill "atleast" them red criteria are fixed, but i really really would love for you to check out and fix everything i posted and just see how they make the map flow better ;)
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AlMod
Oh, thanks for modding. :) I'm starting to work again
Topic Starter
AlMod

jericho2442 wrote:

Easy
All Done

Hard
All Done

Insane
Only undone marked here:
(suggestion) 00:08:902 (1) - not really keen on this being stacked under the other slider, maybe unstack it so its easier to read the timing? - it's only beginning, so it takes only one retry :D
00:42:387 (1,2,3) - tbh these double speed sliders play really bad, and the map would be better if you made them normal speed :/ - i desided to left this as is - map is very short, and it will be it's interesting spot
StarDem
Eto ok;)
как для ктб карта скучная...
Insane
1) 00:11:626 (1,2,3) - растяни на джампы( 1 - вправо, ниже; 2 - влево; 3 -вправо, ниже)
2) 00:32:133 (1,2,3) - растяни на джампы( 1 - вправо, ниже; 2 - чуть влево, ниже; 3 - влево, ниже)
starvfox
New Diff Req pls :)
starvfox's style :)
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