1. Stop! Stop Winny Upload!! (8.16 stars, 1070 notes)

Monstrata wrote:

I might increase it to AR 10 again if enough people complain about the readability aspect though

Kaine wrote:

part of me wants to complain about the ugly sliders and shit but i know you prolly have a reason for all that so this is a small request to explain your reasoning behind mapping the ugly part the way it is

Monstrata wrote:

To make the high bpm part even more messy. The central theme of this map is to create really messy sliders and patterns during the metal section, and then regress to my usual pretty and well-structured mapping style for the moe/anime stop stop winny upload section. So essentially, ugly section, then pretty section. Low AR's allow for more objects on the map, which contributes to more messiness in the metal section, and it makes the later half of the map less forced and more normal/acceptable/natural.

Hope that covers it. I might increase it to AR 10 again if enough people complain about the readability aspect though xD.

SnowNiNo_ wrote:

the preview point just make ppl feels like a 4 star map XD

FailureAtOsu wrote:

This is not unrankable. This is just shitty. I don't know anyone who wants to play 8* for 3 minutes then the last 2 minutes is a boring, 2.5-3.5* map.

Aeril wrote:

FailureAtOsu wrote:

This is not unrankable. This is just shitty. I don't know anyone who wants to play 8* for 3 minutes then the last 2 minutes is a boring, 2.5-3.5* map.

tbh the ending is nice because you get to relax after 3 minutes of hard jumps and stuff, idk i like it xp

FailureAtOsu wrote:

The more I look at this map the more it makes me pissed off.
The map STARTS at 8*, but at about 60% thru it goes to 3* and stays there for the rest of the song, making the 40% no more than a waste of time.
This is not unrankable. This is just shitty. I don't know anyone who wants to play 8* for 3 minutes then the last 2 minutes is a boring, 2.5-3.5* map.

Cryptic wrote:

FailureAtOsu wrote:

The more I look at this map the more it makes me pissed off.
The map STARTS at 8*, but at about 60% thru it goes to 3* and stays there for the rest of the song, making the 40% no more than a waste of time.
This is not unrankable. This is just shitty. I don't know anyone who wants to play 8* for 3 minutes then the last 2 minutes is a boring, 2.5-3.5* map.

I mean, its mapped properly in accordance with intensity. The first part of the song, the 8* part, is quite intense and heavy while the rest of the song is light and calm. The huge difficulty gap between the two sections accurately represents the huge intensity gap in the song itself.

AR 9.3-9.5 though. AR 10 makes the ending too forced and ruins some of the reading in the harder section.

FailureAtOsu wrote:

The more I look at this map the more it makes me pissed off.
The map STARTS at 8*, but at about 60% thru it goes to 3* and stays there for the rest of the song, making the 40% no more than a waste of time.
This is not unrankable. This is just shitty. I don't know anyone who wants to play 8* for 3 minutes then the last 2 minutes is a boring, 2.5-3.5* map.
But still, good luck with ranking.
(And, incase you ask, the way to fix this is make the 60% beginning part a lot easier so the 3* section is actually something that isn't a ridiculous transition.)
P.S: Just add "IMO" after every sentence.
P.P.S, lower AR; the slow part is just fucking weird with ar10.

TehDragonGuy wrote:

FailureAtOsu wrote:

The more I look at this map the more it makes me pissed off.
The map STARTS at 8*, but at about 60% thru it goes to 3* and stays there for the rest of the song, making the 40% no more than a waste of time.
This is not unrankable. This is just shitty. I don't know anyone who wants to play 8* for 3 minutes then the last 2 minutes is a boring, 2.5-3.5* map.
But still, good luck with ranking.
(And, incase you ask, the way to fix this is make the 60% beginning part a lot easier so the 3* section is actually something that isn't a ridiculous transition.)
P.S: Just add "IMO" after every sentence.
P.P.S, lower AR; the slow part is just fucking weird with ar10.

What the fuck do you want, deathstreams in the slow relaxed part of the song?... It's not Monstrata's fault the song becomes much more relaxed there.

1. Countdown is intentional? i think it should be disabled lol
2. like most #modhelp users said, why not use 9.5 or 9.7 for the AR? people seems complaining too much about the AR xD
3. One More, Combo Colour 5, 7 and 8 could be brighter xP some parts are hard to read cuz they are blend with the BG
   ex

   00:40:172 - the slider
   well atleast for me xd idk what you think but yeah. they can be a bit brighter as most people play in dark background dim.
4. eh btw, metadata source? and why the tags are blank? ;o also, artist should be "マキシマム ザ ホルモン" instead, i guess

1. 00:24:200 (3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3) - first, im not an experienced player but once i tested this. i felt like the movement between triplets to 00:24:842 (4) - are hard to read. it maybe because the AR but idk. just my thought
2. 00:44:016 (5) - i'd ctrl+g this tho, cuz the reading. this cause me a miss here lol
   ~ Jump Section ~
3. 00:52:766 (3,4) - this can cause a player misread. as you stacked (4) under 00:52:107 (1) - . and this is completely different with other jumps, what will i do is. do something like overlap it rather stacking it which could cause a player miss especially with the High AR you have used
4. 00:58:900 (8,1) - can be emphasized more? previous cursor movement is bigger while 00:58:900 (8) - to 00:59:022 (1) - isnt big at all, increase the spacing wouldnt hurt i guess lol
5. 01:00:723 - tbh the jumps here didnt make sense at all :/ well maybe just me
6. 01:07:259 (1) - definetly looks like a gut, 01:19:288 (1) - yehaj same
7. 01:30:362 (1,2) - are the stacked slider node here is intentional? seems weird :/
8. 01:36:505 (2,3) - ew spaced stream xd why dont stack this with 01:36:344 (1) - instead? hard cursor movements here tho :/
9. 01:36:772 (5,6,7) - slider give me aids. also, stack? same like above
10. 01:38:058 - 01:40:576 - this parts give me aids. sik
11. 01:45:552 (3,1) - emphasis more i guess?
12. 01:53:257 (1,2) - first blanket mod : DDD yeah, blanket seems bad imo
13. 02:13:049 (4,1) - ew whats with the movements here. player would confuse here tho. as most of the cursor movements in this map is going to left so why not making the movements between 4>1 is left? like, 02:13:164 (1) - ctrl+g this would work
14. 02:13:776 (3,4,5) - unperfect triangle 8( pls fix thx
15. 02:15:605 (3,4) - are this intentional to be "ugly blanket" or it isnt?
16. 02:32:742 (1,1) - ok. this is suprising. are the slow SV on 02:33:171 (1) - is a purpose? i mean, its not really natural when the previous was fast and the next is slowest. raise the SV a bit like 0,15 or 0,17 maybe? xd
17. 02:34:901 - add a greenline here and set the volume to 20% to give a nice transition to 02:35:017 (1) -
18. 02:36:401 - this too^
19. 02:40:674 (4,5) - okay, the jump here is suprising LOL
20. 02:43:016 (10,1) - dont stack :< can cause a misread especially in high AR also, 02:42:793 (6) - NC here maybe?
21. 02:46:793 (1,2,1,2,1,2) - this is confusinggggg LOL
22. 02:55:471 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,1,1) - how to... give me inspiration, sensei
    ~ Slow Part ~
23. 03:08:850 (3) - remove whistle on the tail? its weird to have a whistle in red tick
24. 03:16:894 (5,1,2) - the blanket could be nicer
25. 03:28:492 (3,4) - for a reason, i thought 03:28:744 (4) - would appear on right where 03:28:996 (5) - is placed. ctrl+g them maybe? so players wont confused. well for me its a bit confusing tho ^^'
26. 04:25:225 (6,7,1,2,3) - high ar caused this a bit hard to read xd and btw, lower the placements i guess? maybe because its placed high caused me a misread there lol
27. 04:33:754 (1,1,1,1) - Creative
    
    k i think thats all, i dont even know what i am doing lmao also, the slow part. why dont use a normal-hitnormal to replace the claps? fits better with hitnormal imo

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1. 00:35:361 (2) - check ds
2. 00:39:638 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - maybe we should use sliders again like before 00:37:929 (4,5) - or like dont stack these triples under the previous notes, or nc or something to make it a little easier to read
3. 00:43:473 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,6) - really awkward to transition between tiny spacing of the first combo into large spacing of the second one. i dont see the need for 00:44:342 (1,2,3,4) - to be so large anyway. also consider changing 00:44:449 (2,3) - into a slider instead, it seems to be similar to 00:44:016 (5) - so it would fit the style of mapping the vocal so far
4. 00:52:986 (1,2,3) - err this flow man lol. i guess it was intentional but i didnt like playing it
5. 00:59:022 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - alright... can we not force difficulty on a map thats already going to be one of the hardest ever? this part of the music is basically exactly the same as 00:55:579 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - so i dont see the reason why suddenly its changed into all circles. not to mention all these zig zags are just completely not fun to play imo, compared to the slider patterns you had before which actually had different flows to make the part more interesting
6. 00:59:867 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ^
7. 01:00:723 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ^ plz
8. 01:24:577 (2,3,4,1) - would be nice if these four were all part of the same combo instead of that randomly being a part of the next but eh
9. 01:34:630 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - you can try NC'ing it like this i think it would make more sense with the structure of the rhythm here http://puu.sh/pjHgb/7c5201fa03.jpg
10. 01:36:344 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ^ if you took that suggestion http://puu.sh/pjHkp/e6d2297dee.jpg
11. 01:38:058 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5) - hoyl ok i guess its fine but 01:38:380 (4) - this is a kinda unnecessary trap imo, people will expect it to be a lot more to the left
12. 01:42:186 (4,1) - swap the NC?
13. 02:13:512 (2,3) - the timing difference is quite significant and this might cause issues during gamplay but what can we do to fix it lel i have no idea sorry. NC? Sliders?
14. 02:26:570 (3,4) - same thing i said about 01:38:380 (4) - being a trap
15. 02:27:195 (1,2,3,4) - argh this is just so ridiculously hard to read when its overlapped by the stuff before it
16. 02:28:885 (1,2,3,4) - ^
17. 02:29:742 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - can we just try to keep the spacing between them as even as possible like do whatever you want with the shapes but plz spacing
18. 02:49:895 (4,1) - swap NC
19. 03:10:874 (5,1) - blanket
20. 03:45:634 - but monstrata only makes triangles
21. 04:33:754 (1,1,1,1) - and its so cool how this actually works