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dj TAKA with NAOKI - Kakumei

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B1rd
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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Friday, 8 January 2016 at 9:48:50 PM

Artist: dj TAKA with NAOKI
Title: Kakumei
BPM: 150.96
Filesize: 13080kb
Play Time: 01:44
Difficulties Available:
  1. Another (5.14 stars, 602 notes)
  2. Extra (5.99 stars, 603 notes)
  3. Hard (3.76 stars, 305 notes)
  4. Insane (4.7 stars, 524 notes)
Download: dj TAKA with NAOKI - Kakumei
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Last edited by B1rd , edited 28 times in total.
Mahogany
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2015-12-31 15:30 B1rd: that pony one was alright. it had good flow
2015-12-31 15:30 B1rd: which is more than I can say about mine
2015-12-31 15:30 Mahogany: IMHO the biggest problem with your jumps is they don't have sharp enough angles
2015-12-31 15:31 Mahogany: so it's very difficult to properly judge the motions needed
2015-12-31 15:31 Mahogany: 00:24:203 (1,2,3,4) - like this for example
2015-12-31 15:31 B1rd: yeah I like flow patterns
2015-12-31 15:32 B1rd: but that's a square
2015-12-31 15:32 Mahogany: Also imo your spacing is way too high a lot of the time
2015-12-31 15:32 Mahogany: 00:30:892 (4,5,6,7) - like here that spacing is way out there
2015-12-31 15:32 Mahogany: It's a rectangle so if that was supposed to be a square you should fix it :p
2015-12-31 15:32 Mahogany: actually it's not even a rectangle I think that's a parallelogram
2015-12-31 15:33 B1rd: lol
2015-12-31 15:33 B1rd: it still has 45 degreeish angles
2015-12-31 15:34 Mahogany: Also, due to the fact there's lots of streams, and due to the star rating, maybe AR8.5 might be more suitable than AR8
2015-12-31 15:35 Mahogany: 00:37:784 (4,5,6,7) - more incorrect squares pls the fact that the vertical distance is different from horizontal is really triggering me
2015-12-31 15:36 Mahogany: 00:44:878 (1,2,3,4,5) - I think the spacing here is too high compared to the energy in the song
2015-12-31 15:37 Mahogany: until at least 00:44:878 (1,2,3,4,5) -
2015-12-31 15:37 Mahogany: 00:56:838 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - This spacing I just can't approve of ever ):
2015-12-31 15:38 B1rd: those jumps are the heart of the map
2015-12-31 15:38 Mahogany: it might just be because I'm bad idk
2015-12-31 15:38 Mahogany: 01:14:067 (5,6,7) - why is 7 spaced differently to everything else? D: fix pls
2015-12-31 15:39 Mahogany: 01:19:743 (7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - spacing changes in streams can be done well but this is like way too big
2015-12-31 15:39 Mahogany: Also, I think there should be another note after the end of the stream, and the stream should lead into that next slider
2015-12-31 15:40 Mahogany: 01:31:500 (10,11,12) - more different spacing ):
2015-12-31 15:40 B1rd: perhaps but then I'll have to remap that part xd
2015-12-31 15:41 Mahogany: 01:33:020 (7,8) - 7 is really off the start of 8. I reccomend you re-angle the slider so that they're look more like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4242797
2015-12-31 15:41 Mahogany: same with 01:34:642 (1,2) -
2015-12-31 15:42 Mahogany: also 00:13:071 (4) - sounds horribly wrong compared to the song, maybe some bpm changes are needed there
2015-12-31 15:43 Mahogany: but yeah just overall I think your spacing is overdone and stuff
2015-12-31 15:43 Mahogany: Not an expert mapper so that's all I'm able to say really
2015-12-31 15:44 Mahogany: I'll post the log of this on the thread if it gets saved so you can review it any time you want
2015-12-31 15:45 B1rd: thanks for that.
2015-12-31 15:45 B1rd: post it in the forums
2015-12-31 15:45 Mahogany: <3

nokd I wasn't really helpful <3
B1rd
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B1rd

Mahogany wrote:

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2015-12-31 15:30 B1rd: that pony one was alright. it had good flow
2015-12-31 15:30 B1rd: which is more than I can say about mine
2015-12-31 15:30 Mahogany: IMHO the biggest problem with your jumps is they don't have sharp enough angles
2015-12-31 15:31 Mahogany: so it's very difficult to properly judge the motions needed
2015-12-31 15:31 Mahogany: 00:24:203 (1,2,3,4) - like this for example
2015-12-31 15:31 B1rd: yeah I like flow patterns
2015-12-31 15:32 B1rd: but that's a square
2015-12-31 15:32 Mahogany: Also imo your spacing is way too high a lot of the time
2015-12-31 15:32 Mahogany: 00:30:892 (4,5,6,7) - like here that spacing is way out there
The spacing there is on purpose, it's a jump that follows that screeching noise. It is a lot larger spacing than most of the map but I don't think there is anything wrong with that, having a large variation of spacing makes the map fun I think.
2015-12-31 15:32 Mahogany: It's a rectangle so if that was supposed to be a square you should fix it :p
2015-12-31 15:32 Mahogany: actually it's not even a rectangle I think that's a parallelogram
2015-12-31 15:33 B1rd: lol
2015-12-31 15:33 B1rd: it still has 45 *90 degree degreeish angles
2015-12-31 15:34 Mahogany: Also, due to the fact there's lots of streams, and due to the star rating, maybe AR8.5 might be more suitable than AR8
I don't see how that has anything to do with AR. Long sequences of 1/2 circles are what is hard to read with low AR, and this map doesn't have many and it's low BPM (edit: you're right, it plays a lot better at AR8.5 if you're not Rucker
2015-12-31 15:35 Mahogany: 00:37:784 (4,5,6,7) - more incorrect squares pls the fact that the vertical distance is different from horizontal is really triggering me
I like rectangles
2015-12-31 15:36 Mahogany: 00:44:878 (1,2,3,4,5) - I think the spacing here is too high compared to the energy in the song
2015-12-31 15:37 Mahogany: until at least 00:44:878 (1,2,3,4,5) -
I don't think so. The music sounds on edge to me, and that's how it plays. Sort of.
2015-12-31 15:37 Mahogany: 00:56:838 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - This spacing I just can't approve of ever ):
2015-12-31 15:38 B1rd: those jumps are the heart of the map
2015-12-31 15:38 Mahogany: it might just be because I'm bad idk
2015-12-31 15:38 Mahogany: 01:14:067 (5,6,7) - why is 7 spaced differently to everything else? D: fix pls
Fixed ;)
2015-12-31 15:39 Mahogany: 01:19:743 (7,8,9,10,11,12,13) - spacing changes in streams can be done well but this is like way too big
It seems really mild to me.
2015-12-31 15:39 Mahogany: Also, I think there should be another note after the end of the stream, and the stream should lead into that next slider
If I was following the song perfectly then yes, you don't need to follow is 100% of the time though do you? I think it plays alright as it is. I might change it.
2015-12-31 15:40 Mahogany: 01:31:500 (10,11,12) - more different spacing ):
Fixed
2015-12-31 15:40 B1rd: perhaps but then I'll have to remap that part xd
2015-12-31 15:41 Mahogany: 01:33:020 (7,8) - 7 is really off the start of 8. I recommend you re-angle the slider so that they're look more like this https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/4242797
2015-12-31 15:41 Mahogany: same with 01:34:642 (1,2) -
I'm actually not too sure what you mean here. About that square though, I haven't yet went through that part of the map to make sure everything is perfectly symmetrical
2015-12-31 15:42 Mahogany: also 00:13:071 (4) - sounds horribly wrong compared to the song, maybe some bpm changes are needed there
fixed
2015-12-31 15:43 Mahogany: but yeah just overall I think your spacing is overdone and stuff
2015-12-31 15:43 Mahogany: Not an expert mapper so that's all I'm able to say really
I think the spacing could use a bit of tweaking in some parts. Though I'm not sure what reducing the spacing universally would do except make the map easier. I think I need a few more opinions on this
2015-12-31 15:44 Mahogany: I'll post the log of this on the thread if it gets saved so you can review it any time you want
2015-12-31 15:45 B1rd: thanks for that.
2015-12-31 15:45 B1rd: post it in the forums
2015-12-31 15:45 Mahogany: <3

nokd I wasn't really helpful <3
Thanks for the mod!
jesse1412
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2016-01-10 05:01 jesus1412: it'd play better with higher ar
2016-01-10 05:01 jesus1412: 00:10:381 (3) -
2016-01-10 05:01 jesus1412: remove slider
2016-01-10 05:02 jesus1412: 00:33:527 (2,3) - shit like this is what makes mapping these songs hard
2016-01-10 05:02 jesus1412: a big gap isn't enough to tell the player what kind of timing that jump it
2016-01-10 05:02 jesus1412: is*
2016-01-10 05:03 jesus1412: 00:34:540 (6,7,8) - and fuck I hate 1/8 sliders
2016-01-10 05:03 jesus1412: check your timings at the start too
2016-01-10 05:05 B1rd: sure
2016-01-10 05:05 jesus1412: just too messy for this kinda song imo, needs better use of sliders to guide the player through the map if you're gonna do songs like that
2016-01-10 05:05 jesus1412: and uh last thing
2016-01-10 05:06 jesus1412: your slider velocities are too low in places
2016-01-10 05:06 jesus1412: feels like UGHHH slowing down on em
B1rd
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B1rd

jesus1412 wrote:

2016-01-10 05:01 jesus1412: it'd play better with higher ar
Perhaps, but I like lower AR. I've already compormised on ar8.5. I might change in the future, I'll think about it.
2016-01-10 05:01 jesus1412: 00:10:381 (3) -
2016-01-10 05:01 jesus1412: remove slider
does it play bad? If it does I could remove it I guess.
2016-01-10 05:02 jesus1412: 00:33:527 (2,3) - shit like this is what makes mapping these songs hard
2016-01-10 05:02 jesus1412: a big gap isn't enough to tell the player what kind of timing that jump it
2016-01-10 05:02 jesus1412: is*
It has a large gap and it follows the music, I think that's enough. It is an extra so it has some rythmic complexity. I might remap that part though
2016-01-10 05:03 jesus1412: 00:34:540 (6,7,8) - and fuck I hate 1/8 sliders
I actually changed them because someone suggested to. I don't really like them either but in this map they're not really at risk of breaking your combo like they sometimes are.
2016-01-10 05:03 jesus1412: check your timings at the start too
2016-01-10 05:05 B1rd: sure
2016-01-10 05:05 jesus1412: just too messy for this kinda song imo, needs better use of sliders to guide the player through the map if you're gonna do songs like that
Yeah I guess I could do that. When I come back to the map I might remap it a bit for better playablity.
2016-01-10 05:05 jesus1412: and uh last thing
2016-01-10 05:06 jesus1412: your slider velocities are too low in places
2016-01-10 05:06 jesus1412: feels like UGHHH slowing down on em
I'll review the slider velocity.
Thanks for the mod.

However I've had enough of mapping so I probably won't come back to this for a while.
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