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Frostings
what happened to the skull scumreads lol
the wagons seem town, but they jump so quickly

I'm kinda townreading a lot of people this game, and I can't really find many scummy players x_x

Here's my list

Town
gif Sakura Jess MB

null town
Ms1 Sm4

I'm not sure what to think of Drezi, VCA might be good if he flips town. If he doesn't, well, that's good I guess :) (though I guess mafia/third faction could be in the votecount if Drezi flips non-town)

Also I'm kinda curious on ms1 if he plays like this every game (kinda like gif but more impatient?)
Sakura

Frostings wrote:

Also I'm kinda curious on ms1 if he plays like this every game (kinda like gif but more impatient?)
Yes.
Tho don't worry this is most likely town MS (despite i've only seen scum MS one but his play's pretty different)
metal sonic1

Frostings wrote:

what happened to the skull scumreads lol
the wagons seem town, but they jump so quickly

I'm kinda townreading a lot of people this game, and I can't really find many scummy players x_x

Here's my list

Town
gif Sakura Jess MB

null town
Ms1 Sm4

I'm not sure what to think of Drezi, VCA might be good if he flips town. If he doesn't, well, that's good I guess :) (though I guess mafia/third faction could be in the votecount if Drezi flips non-town)

Also I'm kinda curious on ms1 if he plays like this every game (kinda like gif but more impatient?)
It looks like you are not townreading drezi

Pls vote approrpiately. Thanks.

Skull scumreads still exist
Drezi
Yeah, way to go, we got:
- metalsonic strutting around repeatedly asking people to vote me with still no reasoning at all whatsoever.
- Dake voting me back without being able to write a single line why he thinks I'm scum anymore.
- Jess voting me because she hates me and was nicely asked to, genius..........
- and Sakura voting me because fuck all, even though she's always so big on "forming reads with interactions" yet the only times we've interacted is when _I_ questioned her and that's it. It's rather weird she'd do this, last time I've seen her so lazily just swich her vote to me without having anything to say was when she was scum and went like "lol well, if these guys will lynch him, might aswell just let them".

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

The way he acted towards Jess seemed town to me, similar to how he acted in other games as town with Jess (He even linked them ffs).
This is a common mistake, and doesn't prove I'm town btw, someone behaving the usual way is DEAD NULL, but metalsonic seems to be completely oblivious to the fact that I routinely take Jess for a fool and sometimes get useful info out of it, and seems to have based his idiotic read on this, despite clearly not knowing shit here.
I don't even think he's scum, just stupid and arrogant which is not a good combination.... but he keeps repeating his shit adamantly (do I have the curse of Setsuen on me or what, Tess last game, now this...) and here looks like that's all it takes to get me mislynched, in this huge lack of interest for the game. I seriously regret signing up, Jess being present should have been warning enough though...
-[Jess]-
lolz
i vote you because i want to have your power.not hating.

Drezi wrote:

This is a common mistake, and doesn't prove I'm town btw, someone behaving the usual way is DEAD NULL, but metalsonic seems to be completely oblivious to the fact that I routinely take Jess for a fool and sometimes get useful info out of it, and seems to have based his idiotic read on this, despite clearly not knowing shit here.
I don't even think he's scum, just stupid and arrogant which is not a good combination.... but he keeps repeating his shit adamantly (do I have the curse of Setsuen on me or what, Tess last game, now this...) and here looks like that's all it takes to get me mislynched, in this huge lack of interest for the game. I seriously regret signing up, Jess being present should have been warning enough though...
sign,i know you treat me as a fool at all time,but it is not the reason to mislynch you.
Skullmaster4

metal sonic1 wrote:

Skullmaster4 wrote:

Nobody vote Drezi. If someone does, someone else will have the power to hammer.
I don't really even agree to the Drezi lynch very much. I don't think there has been enough evidence against Drezi.

metal sonic1 wrote:

screw evidence

lynch drezi

probably mafia
pls metal
if you weren't one of my biggest townreads you would be my biggest scumread
What? ^^^
Skullmaster4
The above post messed up. A message got cut out and the quotes sort of merged together.
Here is what I meant to respond to with that first quote

metal sonic1 wrote:

Skullmaster4 wrote:

Nobody vote Drezi. If someone does, someone else will have the power to hammer.
I don't really even agree to the Drezi lynch very much. I don't think there has been enough evidence against Drezi.

Please explain why we should be scared of a hammer?
I feel like since we have all day period to lynch, we should spend the whole time trying to gather information. Ending off discussion early wouldn't really be beneficial.
Hika
After what Sakura stated mid game and you all still would rather vote Drezi?
Hika
Sorry, I meant to say GIF. Not Sakura.
metal sonic1

Skullmaster4 wrote:

The above post messed up. A message got cut out and the quotes sort of merged together.
Here is what I meant to respond to with that first quote

me wrote:

Please explain why we should be scared of a hammer?
I feel like since we have all day period to lynch, we should spend the whole time trying to gather information. Ending off discussion early wouldn't really be beneficial.
what kind of discussion or information do you expect to be getting by not hammering?
metal sonic1
have we gained any "information" from the past 7 days of the day period by not hammering? I don't think so. if you disagree, please show otherwise. i would love to hear it.
metal sonic1
in short: hammer away on drezi! drezi is scum~~~
MBomb
metal sonic, can you please roleclaim? You claimed mason, but never said whether that was just mason, or had another role attached.
Skullmaster4

metal sonic1 wrote:

have we gained any "information" from the past 7 days of the day period by not hammering? I don't think so. if you disagree, please show otherwise. i would love to hear it.
We got information out of people like Frostings and Magic Bomb because we didn't just hammer them right away.
ANY Info we gained past real life day 4 time or so, that's all information that we got because we didn't just hammer someone instantly.
This game is partially over analyzing posts, that's why every message can end up helping the town. You can't say that the only information that matters is concrete evidence. All messages in this game are important in figuring out who is scum.
Eagerness to hammer and end day is a major tip off to someone being mafia. I hope you understand that.

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

metal sonic, can you please roleclaim? You claimed mason, but never said whether that was just mason, or had another role attached.
I actually completely agree with this. I kind of forgot that metal never did a full claim :?
MBomb
Oh also, quick comment on the fact that your scum read on drezi came in the past 7 days...
metal sonic1
ok maybe i worded that wrong.

deadline is in 24 hours. have we gained anything in 24 hours?
Skullmaster4

metal sonic1 wrote:

ok maybe i worded that wrong.

deadline is in 24 hours. have we gained anything in 24 hours?
I can think of something we learned in the last 24 hours
THAT YOU ARE A MEMBER OF THE MAFIA!!!1!!11! 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)
loljk you have a point
I have to agree with the fact that we probably wont learn anything important in the next 24 hours unless we start having some really intense discussion.
Sorry for getting so offensive, I can understand the pain of wording things wrong in mafia games.
I still don't believe completely in the Drezi lynch. If you guys really think its best for the town then its fine.

Metal, you may have missed the message. We want you to full role claim.
DakeDekaane

Drezi wrote:

How about you tell me more about your actual scumread on me instead, I'm all ears :)
I don't have stronger leads atm :D
DakeDekaane
And my opinion hasn't changed at all.
Topic Starter
Zexion
"Night is coming soon... this discussion will be long."

Votecount 1.14 (Unchanged)
Drezi [4] - metal sonic1, DakeDekaane, Sakura, -[Jess]-
DakeDekaane [1] - Drezi
Skullmaster4 [0] -
- Magic Bomb - [0] -
Frostings [0] -
-[Jess]- [0] -
Hika [0] -
Navizel [0] -
metal sonic1 [0] -
Sakura [0] -
GuyInFreezer [0] -

No Lynch [0] -
Not Voting [6] - Skullmaster4, Hika, GuyInFreezer, Navizel, -Magic Bomb- , Frostings ,
With 11 alive, it's 6 to lynch.

Please tell me if there are any mistakes.
GuyInFreezer has been prodded.
Deadline for D1 is on December 25th, 9:40PM UTC. That is about 41 hours from now on.
MBomb

GuyInFreezer wrote:

With that said, I'm visiting Korea for few days so I dunno if I should replace out.
@mod: just in case you didn't see
Navizel
hi, going to vote Drezi after I wake up later
metal sonic1

Skullmaster4 wrote:

metal sonic1 wrote:

ok maybe i worded that wrong.

deadline is in 24 hours. have we gained anything in 24 hours?
I can think of something we learned in the last 24 hours
THAT YOU ARE A MEMBER OF THE MAFIA!!!1!!11! 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)
loljk you have a point
I have to agree with the fact that we probably wont learn anything important in the next 24 hours unless we start having some really intense discussion.
Sorry for getting so offensive, I can understand the pain of wording things wrong in mafia games.
I still don't believe completely in the Drezi lynch. If you guys really think its best for the town then its fine.

Metal, you may have missed the message. We want you to full role claim.
/ignored

Skull might be town though but it seems drezi hasn't posted anything towny of late so it's OK to lynch her

Better lynch than no lynch
metal sonic1
Sakura is ther an ISO button on this site
Sakura

metal sonic1 wrote:

Sakura is ther an ISO button on this site
Technically there isn't, but the mod puts links in the OP to ISOlation for every player, they will be in reverse order.

Also
Vote: DakeDekaane
Will switch back to Drezi if a lynch is required but i completely forgot that 1-shot commuter is Town only as long as he's not fake claiming.
Drezi

metal sonic1 wrote:

Skull might be town though but it seems drezi hasn't posted anything towny of late so it's OK to lynch her
What do you expect me to say? This is just stupid, no arguments have been made to speak of and noone even cares about that, with this much interest in the game I don't see Dake getting enough votes before the deadline. Not even sure if me not being lynched here would help if it just means being back to square one D2, wasting +1 day and having to put up with your idiotic tunneling some more....
Drezi
Hell noone even seems to bat an eye even though Jess made it clear that she's voting me because she wants my role rofl.... I don't even know if it means she's town and unibackup indeed and doesn't care about lynching town for some reason, or scum not realizing how bad this looks, and both are equally terrible possibilities..
-[Jess]-
huh?
this is important btw
Drezi
..how about you explain it then?
-[Jess]-
because if the first town player dies,I will get all their power.
If i get a op power,i will dies at night
If I get a useless power,I can't help town
Navizel
Jess, tell me why is it more important for you to get Drezi's power than having Drezi alive.
Navizel
Also, tell me how why you can't help town right now so you need Drezi's power in order to do that.
-[Jess]-
used gif's post

Navizel wrote:

Jess, tell me why is it more important for you to get Drezi's power than having Drezi alive.
i have no choice
- Magic Bomb - discarded Mafia Traitor Cop for a VT. [Town/Mafia/Alien/3p/Goo][idk what his power is]
Ace Timing discarded Mafia Goon for a Supersaint. [Town][dead][Alien]
GuyInFreezer discarded Baby Alien Monarch for Town Clairvoyant.[Town/Mafia][idk what is it]
Sakura discarded Vanilla Townie for Tracker.[Town/Mafia][not useful for me]
-[Jess]- discarded Alien One-Shot Psychomagnet for 1-shot Uni Backup.[Town]
DakeDekaane discarded Mafia Goon for VT. [Town/Mafia/Alien/3p/Goo][idk what his power is]
pieguyn discarded Mason Compulsive Bodyguard for Jailkeeper. [Town. Mafia gets no roleblock.][maybe]
Navizel discarded Lynchbait for SMELL something. [Town][what?]
metal sonic1 discarded Town Coroner for a mason. [Town][useless]
Drezi discarded Town Coroner for 1-shot commuter. [Town]
Frostings discarded Town Clairvoyant for VT. [Town/Mafia/Alien/3P/Goo][idk what his power is]
Skullmaster4 discarded Town Cop for 1-shot dayvig. [Town/Mafia][used]

Navizel wrote:

Also, tell me how why you can't help town right now so you need Drezi's power in order to do that.
i can't help town right now because i have no power.Also no choice.
DakeDekaane

DakeDekaane wrote:

Also, Jess, you can choose who to be lynched, just vote whoever you think is scum.
Note that I'm not influencing Jess' vote at all, Drezi :)
DakeDekaane
It's a bit sad that Jess likely won't be getting a power.
DakeDekaane
@Mod: I'll be V/LA until Dec 27th
Navizel

-[Jess]- wrote:

i can't help town right now because i have no power.Also no choice.
and you can't help town with your opinions?
Frostings
I wanna say Navi is scum, but I'm always wrong with this in past games

His playstyle reminds me of Cts who I always read correctly :(
-[Jess]-

Navizel wrote:

-[Jess]- wrote:

i can't help town right now because i have no power.Also no choice.
and you can't help town with your opinions?
I always can't make good opinions
It is hard for me to do it.
Frostings
There's no way I could be wrong, like, five times in a row, right guys? :)
Vote: Navizel
all aboard the Navi brigade!
Hika
and that's why I didn't vote Drezi
because someone would slip harder
Hika
Also opinions aren't good or bad in this case, as long as you express it, you'll help town just by doing so
But wanting to lynch Drezi just because you want 1 shot commuter makes you sound crazy as hell. He could
Be scum or town, yes, but what about you????
Hika
@Jess
sorry guys, can't post too much for now. Xmas and xmas eve ;)
Navizel

-[Jess]- wrote:

I always can't make good opinions
It is hard for me to do it.
Who cares? Stop making excuses.
Navizel

Frostings wrote:

There's no way I could be wrong, like, five times in a row, right guys? :)
Vote: Navizel
all aboard the Navi brigade!
naiiiiiice
Navizel
Vote: Drezi

did I make it?
Navizel
oh fuck wait it's still the 24th. I thought it's already the 25th. oh well.
Navizel
Actually, Unvote. It's not the 25th yet.
-[Jess]-

Hika wrote:

Also opinions aren't good or bad in this case, as long as you express it, you'll help town just by doing so
But wanting to lynch Drezi just because you want 1 shot commuter makes you sound crazy as hell. He could
Be scum or town, yes, but what about you????
I am crazy,ok?
I know he could be scum or town.
If he flip scum,we can get down a scum.
Flip town,i will get his power.
metal sonic1
Drezi's pleas sound a lot like Sakura................

Sakura thoughts? Come to think of it You haven't provided much of any yet... Hmmmmm
metal sonic1
vote sakura

Play with us please! You're my only friend here now and you are unusually quiet >:( [apart from pie fainting from slapping self too much and gif going who knows where]

Help me sort things out!!!
metal sonic1
Quiet as in every time you post you post something not so game related

I mean thanks for the ISO tip but !!!!!!!!!!
metal sonic1
inb4drezi is actually scum and I was right the first time and it's just me cold feeting again!!
MBomb
we need to make a decision, any lynch is better than no lynch.

unfortunately everyone is probably with their families

well shit
Hika
Sucks that deadline is today.
Maybe we can get another extension
Topic Starter
Zexion
Since it's christmas, you will be given another 12 hours. There will be no more extentions.

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

GuyInFreezer wrote:

With that said, I'm visiting Korea for few days so I dunno if I should replace out.
@mod: just in case you didn't see

I saw it, he didn't request an official replace thought, but he didn't pick up the prod so he'll be replaced anyways.

"Is it snowing?"

Votecount 1.15
Drezi [2] - DakeDekaane, -[Jess]-
DakeDekaane [2] - Drezi, Sakura
Sakura [1] - metal sonic1
Navizel [1] - Frostings
metal sonic1 [0] -
Skullmaster4 [0] -
- Magic Bomb - [0] -
Frostings [0] -
-[Jess]- [0] -
Hika [0] -
GuyInFreezer [0] -

No Lynch [0] -
Not Voting [5] - Skullmaster4, Hika, GuyInFreezer, -Magic Bomb- , Navizel
With 11 alive, it's 6 to lynch.

Please tell me if there are any mistakes.

GuyInFreezer has failed to pick up his prod and will be replaced.
DakeDekaane is V/LA until December 27th.
Prods will not go out until the end of the day because... it's christmas! Enjoy with your family!
Deadline for D1 is on December 26th, 9:40AM UTC. That is about 14 hours from now on.
Frostings
metal sonic voting for himself xd
Also my vote is on Navi and Navi isn't in Not Voting :)
Hika
Ughhhhhh why
MBomb
Shit I probably won't be around for deadline.
Skullmaster4
Oh geez I haven't posted for a few days.
Proddodge
Also, I feel like voting someone before the deadline hits.
Vote: Navizel
This makes it a 3 way tie, right?
I don't really believe that Drezi is scum, and I haven't been paying too much attention to Dake. But I will be honest that I have been scumreading Navizel since the beginning. I didn't just hop on this train randomly, I just have to agree with Frostings on this one.
Hika
Eh, I can't spread my opinion around too much right now but I can obviously say that Drezi isn't a good vote for me so I'll add more D2.
Feel free to follow me on this or not.
o/
Vote:Jess
metal sonic1
Ok back here

vote: drezi
Topic Starter
Zexion
beeboy123 replaces GuyInFreezer effective inmediately.

"Night fell upon us. Everyone seemed quite tired about the discussion. The group didn't reach a decision about who was the guilty one, but seemed satified enough after vaporizing that strange person. The house was indeed pretty big so everyone else went to different rooms and would resume discussion tomorrow. After all, what's the worst it could happen?"

Votecount 1.16 (Final)
Drezi [3] - DakeDekaane, -[Jess]-, metal sonic1
Navizel [2] - Frostings, Skullmaster4
DakeDekaane [2] - Drezi, Sakura
-[Jess]- [1] - Hika
Skullmaster4 [0] -
- Magic Bomb - [0] -
Frostings [0] -
Hika [0] -
metal sonic1 [0] -
Sakura [0] -
beeboy123 [0] -

No Lynch [0] -
Not Voting [3] - beeboy123, Navizel, -Magic Bomb-
With 11 alive, it's 6 to lynch.


The day has ended with no lynch.
It is Night 1. It will end 36 hours after this post, that is December 28th, 02:00 AM UTC.
All night actions are to go to my inbox.
Topic Starter
Zexion
Night has ended. Resolving actions.
Topic Starter
Zexion
"Sleeping in the library wasn't a good idea. Books don't make really good beds... so I resumed my snooping as soon as I saw someone on the big hall. Apparently, only 10 people of the 11 of yesterday were there, so everyone started looking for the missing one. I heard screams, and everyone returned with a grim look on their faces. That person... the one that went arround always using some bee-relating clothing... was found dead.

This only increased everyone's paranoia. I also felt really scared... could I be the next one to die...? I really should have gotten some sleep last night..."


beeboy123, Town Clairvoyant, turned from person into corpse Night 1.

It is now Day 2. It will end 10 days after this post, that is January 7th, 02:00 AM UTC.

Votecount 2.0
- Magic Bomb - [0] -
Sakura [0] -
-[Jess]- [0] -
DakeDekaane [0] -
Hika [0] -
Navizel [0] -
metal sonic1 [0] -
Drezi [0] -
Frostings [0] -
Skullmaster4 [0] -

No Lynch [0] -
Not Voting [10] - Navizel, -Magic Bomb-, DakeDekaane, -[Jess]-, metal sonic1, Frostings, Skullmaster4, Drezi, Sakura, Hika
With 10 alive, it's 6 to lynch.
metal sonic1
anybody got useful results?
MBomb
With beeboy dead, that confirms the presence of 4 factions, as GIF claimed that.

1 death implies that either all aliens are dead, or someone successfully protected someone else. (Either that, or there is no mafia faction but i highly doubt that).
Frostings
why would scum kill clairvoyant? Doesn't it deny them information that they need as well for their wincon?
Frostings
unless there's a large number of them (like at least 3)

Day2 suspicion train
FoS ms1 Drezi DakeDake

Vote: ms1
I have quite a good feeling this one is scum :oops:
metal sonic1
imbecile

vote: frostings
-[Jess]-
lolz

Why scum kill a clairvoyant?now I am a clairvoyant D:
Sakura
Drezi didn't visit anyone last night. (Yeah, i didn't get No result)
Sakura
While that technically doesn't clear him as town for being a commuter, it also makes him less likely to be scum since he didnt make a kill.

Also, remember we supposedly have 3 opposing factions, yet there was only 1 kill over the night.

More thoughts when im back from work.
Hika

-[Jess]- wrote:

lolz

Why scum kill a clairvoyant?now I am a clairvoyant D:
Isn't that better than you still sitting here without a role :u
Use it wisely. But anyways, awesome. FoS on sm4 but just because he's impressionable doesn't make him scummy so I'll leave it at that. It's more so who manipulates him that ends up being scummy.

So I'll watch out on that.
Frostings

-[Jess]- wrote:

lolz

Why scum kill a clairvoyant?now I am a clairvoyant D:
Oh yeah, this is true too
is there still 4 factions or was Ace the only alien?

Also sick vote ms1 :)
-[Jess]-
No clue
It just tell me it start with 4 side
And that all I can get it
Navizel

Sakura wrote:

Drezi didn't visit anyone last night. (Yeah, i didn't get No result)
No result isn't the same as didn't visit anyone right?
MBomb

Sakura wrote:

While that technically doesn't clear him as town for being a commuter, it also makes him less likely to be scum since he didnt make a kill.

Also, remember we supposedly have 3 opposing factions, yet there was only 1 kill over the night.

More thoughts when im back from work.
Well one faction is grey goo, if navizel is correct.
Drezi
I did not use my commute, yeah.

@Frostings what about your Navi scumread from last day, how did it become metalsonic, me and Dake overnight?..
Drezi

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Well one faction is grey goo, if navizel is correct.
I believe he is, and it'll die N2, I don't see Navizel fakeclaiming that, if we don't have a Grey Goo dying we'd just lynch him, pretty straightforward.
Sakura

Navizel wrote:

Sakura wrote:

Drezi didn't visit anyone last night. (Yeah, i didn't get No result)
No result isn't the same as didn't visit anyone right?
Most open games and all Normal games yes. No result = Roleblocked/Couldn't find target/etc. Didn't visit anyone = Target didn't take an action or was roleblocked.

I'm pretty sure if Drezi was scum something with a night action he wouldn't fake claim commuter just to not use anything that night, so im pretty sure Drezi's telling the truth.
Skullmaster4
Spending some time with my family for a few days, so I probably wont talk much.
Not going to request V/LA Because I will probably be able to find a bit of time to talk.
metal sonic1

Sakura wrote:

While that technically doesn't clear him as town for being a commuter, it also makes him less likely to be scum since he didnt make a kill.

Also, remember we supposedly have 3 opposing factions, yet there was only 1 kill over the night.

More thoughts when im back from work.
Thanks for the input. My hypothesis is that he is mafia, so he might have asked his partner to make a kill anyway

Are you still wanting frostings dead? I do now. even though the dino
metal sonic1
Jess is confirmed town btw
metal sonic1
Whoever voted Jess yesterday is quite the scummy and we should probably lynch him
metal sonic1
When I give enough fucks to check who actually did that
Navizel
Was it Hika? Though I gotta say as much as I want to vote Jess for desperately wanting to lynch Drezi just for his powers, her PR looks legit.
DakeDekaane
I'm back home, I'll read and post later.
MBomb
hmm

it's annoying because i was scumreading pieguy but hika's posts are really town so far
Frostings

metal sonic1 wrote:

Are you still wanting frostings dead? I do now. even though the dino
Tell me what changed your mind :)
metal sonic1
Your first post of the day looked really scummy

The one before you voted me
metal sonic1
I really like your Dino though
Hika
It's just the way she reacted about voting Drezi made me want her lynched.
If she's town clairvoyant now then that's fine. I believe the claim. It's not worth sitting on the same subject the entire day. Its better to start eliminating people one by one who are under suspicion. I'll re-read again because it's a little difficult to pull from what little info we have.
Every stare at GIFs ISO and maybe find out who had a grudge on him?
Hika
Everyone look * hah lol thx autocorrext
Hika
also I won't be posting much until a good 7 hours from now because I'm driving back to my apartment from out of town so I'll see if I have to drive or not o/
Hika
Also, it just seemed like pie guy didn't have enough time for the game so I would completely ignore everything he's said; just let me take over anything he's said :u
-[Jess]-
reread everything now,post later.
MBomb
Also, anyone got anything to ask me? Bonus town points if you do.
MBomb
(Yes, there is a specific thing.)
Frostings
I dunno, Gif NK kinda bothers me
I guess he was townread a lot and I'm assuming scum or whatever killing faction went with a "safe" choice

The names I mentioned are the ones who I feel would most likely have made the decision to kill Gif, based on how things were going Day1
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