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Bastard Mini II - Game Over (Town wins)

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Sakura
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If we put the pieces together...
You are unable to use kills or whatever navizel locked you from doing since he targeted you during the one night you didn't commute. I dont believe Navizel had a reason to lie about this, only thing is whether you lied about not commuting N1.
I targeted both Navi and Jess, seeing as Navi died, Jess is conf scum unless my role has a naive element to it, or unless you also happened to kill Navizel last night.

I'm still trying to figure this out based on the claims from the deceased navi, it's also probable that Navi was right about you, but im leaning more on Jess right now, im waiting to hear from her.
Sakura
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Meh, even if my ability was ok, there's still the chance that you had targeted Navi for a kill to begin with :<
Ack, im gonna have to solve this by reading back and checking day play.
Zexion
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Jess being scum would be way too convenient, I mean, red text and claiming to have an ability to "erase" someone? Damn.

What about the Game Master being scum? The cat workshipper was just like Bastard Mini I, so maybe the mod is scum here too...
Sakura
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I did consider that possibility Day 1, but no one wanted to lynch him, i dont think it's a risk i want to take in LyLo because if it turns into a supersaint, vengeful or even a no lynch or it doesnt win the game then we lose.... that's way too many chances of losing D:
Sakura
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I'm going through that game's roles just in case:
Bastard Mini I Role List

DakeDekaane wrote:

Roles:

beeboy - Town Bulletproof Puppet (Weak, Loved) Confused Jack-of-all-Trades.
Their night action can be controlled by the Puppeteer.
Their night action gets randomized, but not the target.
Dies when targetting anti-town players.
Requires 1 vote more to be lynched.

Drezi - Paranoid Cop False Paranoid Gun Owner (Random Compulsive Janitor Double Voter).
Every time he voted, there was a dice roll, 1st die decided the second vote and the 2nd would decide the player who would not be revealed if killed that night.
Always get Mafia results.

GuyInFreezer - Secret Townie (Strong-Willed Dreamer).
Every night he could know three elements present in that night.

Tanzklaue - Mystery Townie (Suicidal Bomb, Lyncher Restless Spirit).
Bombs himself along with another player, then becomes a Restless Spirit who had to lynch the Evil Mastermind.

CalignoBot - Cat God Cultist.
"End all your sentences with nya" post restriction.
Can recruit players into his cult, changing the alignment and removing the abilities.

Zexion - Mafia Puppeteer.
"End all your sentences with desu" post restriction.
Could make kills via his puppet or control the target of his night action.
For easier referencing.
Zexion
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Funny you say that considering how Simple Bastard went ¬¬ (No I'm not mad asdf)
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So what would be the difference between a "cultist" and a "workshipper"?
Sakura
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DakeDekaane wrote:

Resting in a better place:
  1. - Magic Bomb -, the Robot, incinerated in Day 2.
  2. Batujitsu, the Rookie Spy, lynched in Day 2.
  3. Frostings, the Cat God Worshipper, lynched in Day 3.
  4. Navizel, the Matchmaking Machine, killed in Night 3.
Navizel could disable a player's ability to do "destructive stuff" or so he claimed, he also claimed to have gotten my role when i targeted him which is true by the flip.
Zexion
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Also we could not be at LyLo.
Sakura
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Dake used the same color as the other game so i assume that's the color he uses for cults (just like i use purple for cults).

Also i think mod being scum is a bit too cliche right now.

There's worse stuff than making Jess type in red, i mean there's the counterpart to Innocent Child called Guilty Child (Mod announces the player as being part of the mafia).
Sakura
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Wait no, mod can't be scum.
Sakura
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Jess can't kill on her own, N1/N2 there werent any kills so the mod isn't killing either, the only way for Navizel to have died is if either you didnt commute and kill, or Navizel died because Jess is scum and i paired them.
Sakura
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Well actually mod is still possible scum but if he is, he can't kill, but it's impossible for all 3 of us to be town together at this point, otherwise who the fuck killed Navi if Jess is town (Navi wouldn't die because of my ability) and you're town.
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*oh,hi.I erase someone.did you see that?
Zexion
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Well... I kinda expected it. But I wasn't so sure Jess would admit it...
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If that's true then your matchmaking doesn't tell us about Jess being scum Sakura.
Sakura
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Pretty true.
It explains the kill, it doesnt mean neither of you can be scum, but it also allows the possibility of all 3 of us being town.

Question, if Frosty was cultist, who would they have culted... I claimed i couldn't be culted so obv he didnt target me, but idr which day i claimed it, if it was yesterday then it's possible he failed an attempt to cult me if he ever did

If frosty doesnt count as cultist then we might as well lynch the mod...

Ugh this is the part i don't like about bastard games, but whatevs, i had fun figuring out bato and frosty in the end.

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Sakura
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Unvote
Actually, did Jess ever express suspicion of Navi enough to shoot him?
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*i pick it randomly.
DakeDekaane
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It's currently: Day 4
Current weather: Partially cloudy
Alive players: 3

Votecount:
No one is voting
Night will fall in 83 hours. (Dec 22nd 06:00 UTC)
Sakura
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Vote: Jess
Zexion
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I'm not really feeling scumvibes from Jess.
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She wouldn't have claimed to have shot Navi if she was scum.
Sakura
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Zexion wrote:

She wouldn't have claimed to have shot Navi if she was scum.
She would
Sakura
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Then again Navi claimed to have disabled all of Jess abilities that could cause destruction, so it's kinda impossible for her to have killed Navi.
She also claimed that because that would put a brick on my theory that either you shot Navi or she's scum and so Navi died because of the Matchmaking.
In addition to that, she said she shot randomly, how's that even town.
Sakura
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You know what's funny tho.
Navi knew my role coz he copied it, he admitted to knowing my role yesterday.
So for all that it's worth you have to accept my role works how i said it does unless you think Navi wasnt playing to his wincon and accepting me lying about it.

So as far as i'm concerned both you and me are conf town, and my role is at least confirmed to you.

Either Jess scum or we gotta lynch the Game Master.

And i'm still leaning on the former.

Convince me why this isn't the case.
Zexion
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Sakura wrote:

Zexion wrote:

She wouldn't have claimed to have shot Navi if she was scum.
She would
I really don't understand. What would you gain acting like a murderer from the entire game...? That's even nonsense for a bastard game!

I'm not saying shooting randomly is town, but it would be just... too easy. Let me have some time to think this over, I don't want to take a choice so fast like I did in Simple Bastard.

Jess: What do you have to say?... if you want to say something, that is.
Sakura
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It is fine, i know you're town since you didn't QH Jess, it's possible all of us are town and we gotta lynch Dake, we just gotta come to the correct conclusion.

Don't forget:

Navizel wrote:

Zexion wrote:

I hate using meta, but on Dake's Bastard Mini I the post-restrictioned cat was also cult. Do you think he would do it twice?

But on scumminess yeah, frostings comes first then Navi for his intense role fishing.
Okay. The thing is I also have another power which can disable abilities that can cause damage. If you used your commute last Night 1, your scumpoints would lessen. The fact that there were no nightkills yet make me townread Frostings. And by the way, I targeted Jess last night.
DakeDekaane
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It has started to rain. Rain will last for 24 hours.
-[Jess]-
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-[Jess]-
*haha,he only disable one power of me,the power is 'reset'
*also,you guy are going to kill me,Intersting.
Zexion
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So it caused a rain this time...

*sigh*. This feels just like Simple Bastard all over again...
DakeDekaane
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It's currently: Day 4
Current weather: Partially cloudy
Alive players: 3

Votecount:
-[Jess]- (1): Sakura

Not voting: Zexion, -[Jess]-
Night will fall in 45 hours. (Dec 22nd 06:00 UTC)
-[Jess]-
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*It stop,luckily i have a umbrella.
Zexion
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I don't think we're getting anywhere. Again.

I'll decide tomorrow night.
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-[Jess]-
*i am waiting
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Sakura: would you support me if I say I want to lynch the Game Master?
DakeDekaane
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Announcement from: Game Master


You have been granted an extension of the deadline: (Dec 23rd 06:00 UTC). Make good use of it.
Sakura
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Sorry the rain affected by ability to post.
I'm up for lynching either, as I said before, at this point im happy for catching Batu and Frosty.
Zexion
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Damn, that was me doing the rain. I used my mystery ability to see if I could get something... but I didn't.

I thinm I'm just going to flip a coin on this one.
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Vote: Game Master
Sakura
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i thought the game master is Dake?
Ah well whatever
Vote: Game Master
DakeDekaane
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Votecount:
Game Master (2) - Zexion, Sakura.
Game developer was known for doing dirty tricks in his games. Knowing this, players went personally to his home and killed him, showing no mercy.

With his death, no one will be able to resolve the night actions.

Game will be now Nightless.

It's now: Day 5
Current weather: Sunny
Alive players: 3

Votecount:
No one is voting.
Day 5 will end in 120 hours. (Dec 28th 02:00 UTC)
Sakura
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ok i didn't even need night actions anymore, but since it's nightless now we can do this safely
Vote: DakeDekaane
Zexion
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That was really unexpected. But whatever, it's worth a try.

Vote: DakeDekaane
DakeDekaane
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Who would think they would try to lynch a NPC?

Votes have been reset
Zexion
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1-shot unlynchable again?
Sakura
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want to try that again?
Vote: DakeDekaane
Zexion
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Why not.

Vote: DakeDekaane

I suppose we're finally lynching Jess if this doesn't work, since she doesn't seem to care at all...
DakeDekaane
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"Paranoia is strong in this one"

Votes has been reset

A meteor will fall and everyone will die in 48 hours.
Sakura
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Vote: Jess
Well last one remaining.
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vote:Jess
*finally.
*but everyone is losing now,can you avoid this happen.
DakeDekaane
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Votecount:
-[Jess]- (2) - Sakura, -[Jess]- [L-0].
Players were in a pinch. They looked at -[Jess]-, who looked like she didn't care at all, as she was rolling on the floor. Fingers were pointed at her, she kept rolling, then she stood up and took the hammer.

"Finally."

Then, she proceeded to take her own life.

Jess, the Spy, has been lynched.

Sakura, the Matchmaking Machine, has survived and won.
Zexion, the Magician Trainee, has survived and won.

Congratulations to Town players for winning!
DakeDekaane
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Role PMs

Sakura, the Matchmaking Machine
Hi dear player, you are the Matchmaker Machine.

You have the next abilitie(s):
Matchmaking: Each night, you can target two players. Both players will be roleblocked and rolestopped. You cannot target yourself.
- If you pair a town player with a town player: nothing will happen.
- If you pair a town player with a mafia player: town player will die.
- If you pair a town player with a third-party: nothing will happen.
- If you pair a mafia player with a mafia player: both players will die.
- If you pair a mafia player with a third-party: third-party will die.
- If you pair a third-party with another third-party: nothing will happen.
Solar Cell: (Passive) You can only post when there's sunlight.
Iron Mind: (Passive) You can't be recruited into Cult, Mafia, Masonery or Neighbourhood; your role can't be changed.
You win when the all the bad guys are gone.

If you have questions, PM the Game Master for assistency.
Zexion, the Magician Trainee
Hi dear player, you are the Magician Trainee.

You have the next abilitie(s):
Magic Robe: Each night, you can use this ability. During that night, you can't be targeted by night actions. You can't use your other abilities the night this ability is used.
Magic Wand: (Day/Night) You don't know what this ability does. You can only use this ability once per day/night cycle. Action will be anonymous.
Magic Hat: (Passive) You don't know what this ability does.
You win when the all the bad guys are gone.

If you have questions, PM the Game Master for assistency

Magic Wand effects (a die roll is performed):
Day:
1: Nothing happens
2: Summons Rain for 24 hours
3: Summons Flowers
4: Killproof for this Night/Day Cycle.
5: Investigation on random player.
6: Suicide

Night:
1: Suicide
2: Nothing happens
3: Roleblocks a random player
4: Kills a random player.
5: Rolestop a random player.
6: Nothing happens

Magic Hat effects (a coin flip is performed):
Head: Nothing happens.
Tails: Reflexive kill (PGO).
- Magic Bomb -, the Robot
Hi dear player, you are the Robot.

You have the next abilitie(s):
Body of Steel: (Passive) You are immune to bullets, knifes, magic and hand-to-hand combat damage. You are weak against fire and electric weapons. You can't be lynched.
First Law of Robotics: (Passive) Once per day or night, you can prevent a human player from dying.
Positronic Brain: (Passive) You can't be recruited into Cult, Mafia, Masonery or Neighbourhood; your role can't be changed.
Sleepless: (Passive) You can post at night.
Voiceless: (Restriction) You cannot post any words. Votes and simple roleplaying (such as *nods*, *runs in circles*, *slaps mod with a large trout*) are the exception.

You win when all the bad guys are gone.

If you have questions, PM the Game Master for assistency.
Batujitsu, the Rookie Spy
Hi dear player, you are the Rookie Spy. You know a fellow spy, but you don't know who this is.

You have the next abilitie(s):
Reckless Arsonism: (1-shot, Day/Night) Target a player. Targeted player will die in a fire.
Daggers: Each night, you can target a player. Target player will be killed. 50% chance of failing.
Information Network: You can target a player. You'll learn the target's role.
You can only use one ability per night.

You win when you and your fellow spy control at least 50% of the votes.

If you have questions, PM the Game Master for assistency.
Jess, the Spy
Hi dear player, you are the Spy. You know a fellow spy, but you don't know who this is.

You have the next abilitie(s):
Strongman Shot: (1-shot, night) Target a player. Targeted player will die, nothing can stop this from happening.
Daggers: Each night, you can target a player. Target player will be killed.
Spy Scan: (1-shot) Your will learn your fellow spy identity.
You can only use one ability per night.

You win when you and your fellow spy control at least 50% of the votes.

If you have questions, PM the Game Master for assistency.
Frostings, the Cat God Worshipper
Hi dear player, you are the Cat God Worshipper.

You have the next abilitie(s):
Cult Spread: Each night, you can target a player. They will receive an anonymous message.
Kitten Call: (1-shot) At night, you can convert the people targeted with Cult Spread into Cat God Worshippers.
Cat manners: (Restriction) You are a cat-man, every post of yours must have cat-like talking (meows, purrs, hisses, nyans, etc.)
You cannot use Cult Spread and Kitten Call in the same night.

You win when all the bad guys are gone and you are alive.

If you have questions, PM the Game Master for assistency.
Navizel, the Joker
Hi dear player, you are the Joker.

You have the next abilitie(s):
Disguise: (1-shot) During Loading Phase, you can choose your alignment (town, mafia or third-party). Send your selection via PM.
Wild Card: (Hidden, Passive) If lynched/killed, your revealed alignment and role on death will match the person who caused your lynch/death. If investigated, you will return the same alignment and role as the investigator's.
Justice Hero: (needs Town alignment) Each night, you can target a player. If targeted player has an ability which causes damage, it will be permanently disabled.
Payback: (needs Mafia alignment) Each night, you can target a player. If targeted player uses an ability that night, it will be reflected to them.
Playful: (needs Third-party alignment) Each night, you can target a player and send them a message. Message will be anonymous.
Win conditions:
If town: You win when the all the bad guys are gone.
If mafia: You win when you and your mafia fellow(s) control at least 50% of the votes.
If third-party: You win when all the bad guys are gone and you are alive.

If you have questions, PM the Game Master for assistency.

Evolution Tree
Day 2:
Pocket peek: (town/mafia, Passive) If a player targets you with an action, you'll learn their role. If multiple people targets you, you'll learn only one of them.
Ace up your sleeve: (third-party) Once per Day, you gain an extra anonymous vote (send your vote via PM). These votes are not accumulative.
Advanced Disguise: (1-shot, day/night) You can change your alignment. You keep your learned abilities.

Day 4:
Four of a kind: (town, 1-shot, day) Your role will be revealed to everyone.
Straight Flush: (mafia, 1-shot, day) Your role will be revealed to everyone. If there are more than 3 players, you will gain an additional vote during that day.
Royal Flush: (third-party, 1-shot, day) Your role will be reavealed to everyone. You become a winner.
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Players' Actions

Day 1
Navizel uses Disguise. Mafia alignment chosen.
Zexion uses Magic wand. Die roll: 3. Summons Flowers.

Night 1
Frostings uses Cult Spread in Sakura. Message sent.
Navizel uses Advanced Disguise. Town alignment chosen.
Navizel uses Justice Hero on Zexion. Action fails due Zexion commuting.
Sakura matchmakes - Magic Bomb - and Batujitsu. - Magic Bomb - can't die due Body of Steel.
Zexion uses Magic Robe. Untargetable at night.
Batujitsu uses Daggers on - Magic Bomb -. Flip coin: Heads. Fail to kill due - Magic Bomb -'s Body of Steel.
-[Jess]- took no action.

Day 2
Batujitsu uses Reckless Arsonism on - Magic Bomb -. - Magic Bomb - dies in a fire.

Night 2
Frostings uses Cult Spread on -[Jess]-. Message sent.
Navizel uses Justice Hero on -[Jess]-. -[Jess]-'s Strongman shot has been disabled.
Zexion uses Magic Robe. Untargetable at night.
Sakura matchmakes Navizel and Zexion. Action fails due Zexion commuting.
-[Jess]- took no action.

Day 3
Zexion uses Magic wand. Die roll: 4. Killproof for this Night/Day Cycle.

Night 3
Sakura matchmakes Navizel and -[Jess]-. Navizel dies.

Day 4
Zexion uses Magic wand. Die roll: 2. Summons Rain for 24 hours.
MBomb
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Tfw my steel body protected me from 2 kills in one night.
Zexion
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I knew my magic wand would eventually kill me. Glad it didn't happen.

I really liked this game, but it could have been an easy win for scum if Jess actually attacked someone D1... but oh well, we had a lot of defenses just as Navi said. Also MB you were pretty unlucky to have Batu burn you lol
Zexion
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Wait Sakura... you didn't say that you paired Navi and Jess?!
MBomb
MBomb

Zexion wrote:

I knew my magic wand would eventually kill me. Glad it didn't happen.

I really liked this game, but it could have been an easy win for scum if Jess actually attacked someone D1... but oh well, we had a lot of defenses just as Navi said. Also MB you were pretty unlucky to have Batu burn you lol
If any human got targetted, I'd have to save them from it anyway.

Also tfw no one believed my post restriction, I don't particularly like rping like #osu people :(
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ayy lmaooo
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Does Sakura's ability goes first before Justice Hero?
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-[Jess]-
.-.

It end...wow.
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lol what a hard game for the cat man ;__; :)
quite a fun game though
Sakura
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See Zexion, told you Jess was scum
DakeDekaane
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Navizel wrote:

Does Sakura's ability goes first before Justice Hero?
Justice Hero had priority over Matchmaking.

Thanks everyone for playing, I think I'll be hosting a few non-bastard (and bastard) games in the future with this role mechanics. So any feedback is really welcome.

On a side note:
There was no cult at all, just a Survivor who could change people's roles.
Joker's original idea was to win regardless of how he died, but in the end I changed completely the role so it wasn't pointless to the player (after dying).
Magic's Wand original effect was to simply suicide. But I considered that would be pissing people off too much after knowing, so I converted it into a Russian Roulette (sadly it didn't happen :( ).
There were only 2 roles (Joker, Magician Trainee) that were able to be protected by the Robot.

Merry Christmas!
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yep. really should've blocked Sakura hahaha

Jess should've gotten lynched much earlier. Sakura targeted me and Jess so she should've known lol
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That's why i was pushing Jess, but Zexion was stubborn on lynching the mod.
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I just couldn't get Simple Bastard off my head. I still regret not trying to lynch the mod again on that game.

Well, the fun part is, I didn't even lynch Jess.
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