You are leaning more town than anyone else so I always check in with you before I make a decision.
SNB is null leaning scum.
Gumi is null.
Jess is null.
Xiz is null leaning scum.
And sLaiNi is just pure scum on my radar.

I just want to make sure I have your reads just in case either of us get NK'd. I have a feeling.

So I'm literally your only town read?

Um yeah, is there something wrong with that? I mean, if anything, next person in like would be Jess but my gut feeling is always my gut feeling.

In line ***

From most to least town:

Xiz
Hika
SNB (Even though he was my main scum read earlier, his responses seem more town to my comments)
Slaini
Gumica (Higher up if Jess flips town)
Jess

Nothing wrong, just seems suprising.

Usually I can get like two to three but it's really hard when there's a lot of inactivity.

Yet you want to hammer him. Well then again, we'll get a lot more information with a lynch than if we do a NoLynch

I'll cast a vote at 7:25 EST.

It'll be Jess if no one responds by then.

her*

Alright, I wanted more people to be here when I posted what I will, but I'll post it just after you hammer.

Gumica wrote:

Yet you want to hammer him. Well then again, we'll get a lot more information with a lynch than if we do a NoLynch

Um, is this in response to me?

Yeah I'm sorry, I was hoping people would be around before I dropped the hammer. Disappointing.

yes, that was reffering to you

But yeah when I said earlier I had a town read and 2 null town reads, Xiz was town, you and gumica were null-town but now gumica is more null leaning-null scum if Jess flips scum.

Eh I don't give a shit anymore
Vote: Jess

Ok, claiming seer.

Oh my god no way

And so do you believe, that you will be killed?

Idk, it depends, of course.

Who do you plan on searching then? If you can reveal that for us.

I don't want to reveal that, then that person can be framed if I'm wrong, and use the exact same excuse of someone trying to frame them if I'm right, and kill me, if they are werewolves. I understand why this would be helpful to know but I'd rather not reveal.

If I'm killed* I meant.

I knew it.
Vote: sLaiNi
You're scum, forreal.

get b8ed :^)

(Assuming an edit is fine on my informationless post seeing as it's not adding any more information): Good luck town

Just got back. Will be reading everything within the next hour.

lmfaaaoooo that bait.

Jess / Salini / (Gumica as 3rd??) for mafia.

vote: Jess

Will change depending on power roles.

oops Im tired. I meant

vote: Salini

And gumica as 2nd. I totally just derp'd hard there.

Also I find it funny that once I pinged Gumica out, suddenly he started to go super serious about the game, posting reads and giving accusations, and even accusing me for the exact same thing I accused him for.

Complete BS.

I think this game is in the bag guys.

I don't see a world where Hika and bird are scum at all lol.

Guys, I got the result that Gumica is a werewolf. I fucking knew it, lmao.

Vote: Gumica

Static Noise Bird wrote:

Guys, I got the result that Gumica is a werewolf. I fucking knew it, lmao.

Vote: Gumica

Okay, that changes alot.

I was sure Hika and Xiz would be scumteam.

So we would have to be REALLY cautious to believe you know, cause I want to remind everybody, that we are at MyLo and scum could easily use a false claim for a misslynch to win.

So if there is anyone who can counterclaim SNB, DO IT RIGHT NOW. If noone does it we have to assume that you are right with this.

Still, DO NOT VOTE GUMICA, as this will give the second scum (in the small chance that SNB is lying) the chance of hammering to win.

At the same time Tess, take your fricking vote off of me, the second scum only needs to hammer now.


As Tess opened the wagon and Xiz jumped on it, creating a L-1 that will instant loose the game, I guess he is waiting for his compain to hammer me.

So I call out Xiz to be scum.


So I beg all of you: NO VOTES TODAY, if any town votes another town falsely, both scum can just come and hammer together. I hope you are all clear about this. Take all votes off (except SNB, if you did not lie, then scum won't hammer and if you did, you and your scum partner couldn't hammer together)

Okay, as scum will know by now if SNB is lying or not I can claim either way:

I am cop and targeted Hika tonight, I got "Not cop" as result.

LAWL "Not Mafia" ofc

Also good job @ MB, it was obvious that you were baiting, but it worked out, so either scum is very unexperienced (which makes the Xiz case confusing, cause he stated he is very experienced)

Hi, I'm in the process of moving my computers and equipment to my new house in Ljubljana, where I'm stating my college. I'll catch up with the game in the evening.

Right, I forgot it's MyLo already. Damn it. Of course since I am the only one who knows my investigation result and role surely, and since I can't do the classic "if I lie then just lynch me tomorrow" thing in this situation, stuff will be a bit complicated.

And yeah. Good job, treebomb, with false claiming and sacrificing yourself that way.

I've been lately sure that it couldn't be Xiz anyway and I believe Hika wouldn't do a move like that. If I had to throw a wild guess, the other one would be Jess. Hey, that rhymed!

Static Noise Bird wrote:

Right, I forgot it's MyLo already. Damn it. Of course since I am the only one who knows my investigation result and role surely, and since I can't do the classic "if I lie then just lynch me tomorrow" thing in this situation, stuff will be a bit complicated.

And yeah. Good job, treebomb, with false claiming and sacrificing yourself that way.

I've been lately sure that it couldn't be Xiz anyway and I believe Hika wouldn't do a move like that. If I had to throw a wild guess, the other one would be Jess. Hey, that rhymed!

You say it is neither Xiz nor Hika for you?

I think everyone is missing one of the biggest tells.


Everyone has spoken and given some input.
Slaini has 2 votes already.
Slaini is still alive.
This means 2 worlds.

Hika and myself are scum.
OR
Slaini and Gumica are scum, and bird has a correct seering.

Guys... Wake up... Lol

Oh wait I guess that means bird has hammer. If you want we can kill Gumica first if it makes you feel better idk

Unless there is some crazy world where Gumica is the real seer and he hasn't claimed because moving but that would be so troll lol

Oh and treebomb, back on D1 when you were asking me to claim I was so close to role-swapping with you and faking my role lol. I had no idea you were fake also lmfao. I wonder how that would have turned out.

Xiz wrote:

I think everyone is missing one of the biggest tells.


Everyone has spoken and given some input.
Slaini has 2 votes already.
Slaini is still alive.
This means 2 worlds.

Hika and myself are scum.
OR
Slaini and Gumica are scum, and bird has a correct seering.

Guys... Wake up... Lol

Then why don't you vote for Gumica first to lynch her? Your theory just requires Gumica to be 100% scum. And there you can go better with lynching an confscum first and see who dies. You just act irrational.

Also, what's your role then?

Also it could mean just mean that Gumica is actually catching up with the game and did, luckily (?) not notice an important thing.

Xiz wrote:

Oh and treebomb, back on D1 when you were asking me to claim I was so close to role-swapping with you and faking my role lol. I had no idea you were fake also lmfao. I wonder how that would have turned out.

Okay, you just answered my post above with the "we can lynch Gumi first"

but you also claimed that you are VT and Hika can then easily confirm that my Cop claim is true, because she will know that she is VT if she is not scum.


So basically you just confirmed my claim ^^

Oh wait slaini claimed I missed that. I kinda just skimmed over his posts.



vote: unvote


I still think it's him but lolz nobody hammered so still super high chance he's scum

So a list for overview:

SNB = Seer
Gumica = Scum (requires SNB to be correct, but noone counterclaimed)
Xiz = VT (he claimed it with saying "treebomb, I wanted to fake my role and fakeclaim Cop, >>too<<"
Hika = unclaimed
sLaiNi = Cop

So either Xiz or Hika is 100% scum and one is VT.

God damn it my world just got flipped upside down hahaha

Also slaini what if Gumica is the real seer

Xiz wrote:

God damn it my world just got flipped upside down hahaha

What are your reads? I would like you to post them fast

Xiz wrote:

Also slaini what if Gumica is the real seer

The better question: Why did MB not hammer, even after he literally confirmed that he understood that scum would instant win if they hammered me?

Or explained differently: If he was scum, he could've just voted me and he had won. There is no theory that could counterclaim this, except that he wants to have fun instead of winning, but that would be against the rules eitherway

Here is how I see it from my eyes:


World 1:
Hika - Scum
sLaiNi - Cop
Xiz - Town
Static Noise Bird - Seer
Gumica - Scum


World 2:
Hika - Scum
sLaiNi - Cop
Xiz - Town
Static Noise Bird - Scum
Gumica - Seer


World 3:
Hika - town
sLaiNi - Scum
Xiz - Town
Static Noise Bird - Seer
Gumica - Scum

There is no world where scum would bus here obviously.
The most troubling fact is how gumica just posted saying "brb" instead of quickly claiming and saying brb. Kinda throws a wrench in everything. I'm interpreting this as probably giving up, or not really caring?

Then there is this...

Hika wrote:

You {Meaning Tree} are leaning more town than anyone else so I always check in with you before I make a decision.
SNB is null leaning scum.
Gumi is null.
Jess is null.
Xiz is null leaning scum.
And sLaiNi is just pure scum on my radar.

^ +1 World 2

Also...

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

If Jess flips town, Slaini, if Jess flips scum, Gumica.

^ +1 World 3

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Oh, and also keep an eye on SNB if Jess flips town.

^ THIS post scares me lol. +1 World 2

sLaiNi wrote:

Why did MB not hammer, even after he literally confirmed that he understood that scum would instant win if they hammered me?

+1 to World 1

Static Noise Bird wrote:

Vote: Gumica

^ His earlier thought train follows through with his claim today. If he is fake, it's a low chance he landed on the real one.

+1 World 1/3

Oh wait... there could be a Salini + Static Noise Bird world...


World 4:
Hika - Role?
Salini - Scum
Xiz - Town
Static Noise Bird - Scum
Gumica - Role



Fucking hell lol.


It's 3:20 am here imma go to bed and sleep on this.


Final thoughts for now is that the BIGGEST 2 things was SNB not hammering Salini and Gumica going afk. Also, I saw Gumica browsing this thread, then instantly leaving. (I refreshed the page about 5-6 times to check, caught him twice)

Good night for now

OK so, I've read up (cause driving 2h is boring), and also checked my message from Ace.
Guess what, SNB is wolf.
Vote: SNB

I did see the posts earlier this morning, before I went on the road. If I were scum, I would have quickhammered and ended the game there and then.

This is getting intense.

So either Gumica and SNB is scum.

DONT VOTE ANYONE @ALL TOWN

Holy shit what a surprise!!!! Didn't see that seering coming at all!!
You panicked Gumica


K goodnight for realz

Actually Xiz's thoughts were so indepth it makes me feel rather town about him again. Sigh, I will take a short break of thinking about this game.

Good Night @Xiz (it's 12:30 here xD)

I'm pretty much set with who imma vote, I just wanna hear hika for lolz

H'okay bed time for reals v3

Panickwd? not really. I really am moving though, and Slovenian mobile coverage is ever so shitty (most of it is Edge). But we did stop in a city for lunch, so I have 3G, thwrefore I checked the game.

I COMPLETELY FORGOT JESS WAS LYNCHED OH MY GOD

I'll fix my reads and possible "worlds" after gym. Hang in there guys.

Static Noise Bird wrote:

I COMPLETELY FORGOT JESS WAS LYNCHED OH MY GOD

I'll fix my reads and possible "worlds" after gym. Hang in there guys.

Did you even post any "worlds" this day o.O

No, but those kinda go hand in hand.

Since Xiz is my stronger town read and Slaini is a non-countered cop, I'm going to have to assume the wolfteam is Hika-Gumica.

The other possible world is where Slaini and Hika swap places, and the least likely where Xiz and Hika swap places. For now I'm going to have to assume Slaini is the cop.

Besides, Gumica never counterclaimed seer, which is good.

inb4 Hika claims seer.

I was sleeping forgive me, I'll collect everything.. eh

First, let me do this...
Unvote

sLaiNi wrote:

Okay, as scum will know by now if SNB is lying or not I can claim either way:

I am cop and targeted Hika tonight, I got "Not cop" as result.

just thought i'd crack up and say lmao to that, that made my day because yes, i'm obviously not a cop

K, I'm at the new place. I've got all PC's up and running. I have a lot of other things to unpack still though. I'll post more later in the evening.

Static Noise Bird wrote:

Besides, Gumica never counterclaimed seer, which is good.

I did actually. It seems you're reading posts badly.

So for sake of not wanting to spam everyone, I don't want to make a million posts, I'll make a super long post that will be convenient for everyone and fuck you, I'll put a tl;dr at the end for your lazy selves

My reads are based off of D1 actions, obviously, and not what has occurred just now because my two biggest scum reads are being lmao right now
To keep in mind here, in response to the question I asked MB, "Who would you like town to pursue if you end up getting NK'd?", because I obviously made clear that if Jess flipped town, my choice would be slaini.
He replied two things,

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

If Jess flips town, Slaini, if Jess flips scum, Gumica.

- Magic Bomb - wrote:

Oh, and also keep an eye on SNB if Jess flips town.

And obviously, the only way I could think differently is if Jess flips scum is to turn to Xiz and Gumi. But Jess flipped VT, which, of course my initial reaction would be is to vote slaini because he was my scumread from the beginning and because I am going to carry on MB's reads too because he was my ONLY confirmed town read. The only person I didn't agree with was Xiz on his list.

There can be at least two things happening here from my view.
1 - In a world where there are obviously two mafia, SNB and slaini will claim the two PRs and try to apply pressure to the two people that were left from D1 conversing with MB as an act to clear themselves up with the remaining three and to win the game with a successful NK if we lynch one of each other's town reads.
2 - In a world where there are obviously two mafia, SNB or slaini will claim a role in which they do not have and try to accuse someone of being scum out of the blue, whether it be SNB pretending to be seer/cop and vice versa for slaini. It will then cause confusion within the two if they see each other as town and one can betray the other depending on who's read ends up being 'stronger' than the other.


tl;dr
My reads are currently, on a spectrum of more town to more scum, as follows
Xiz > Gumica > SNB/ slaini (I put two here together because I'd like to know which one is lying)

also no, Xiz, enlighten me when you get on but I will only be listening to you for the time being.
Vote: SNB
for gut feeling :/

If Gumi soft claimed seer then I have no choice but to assume that you confirm my 2nd assumption on role claiming in my previous post.
slaini still hasn't posted but I'm not gonna risk this one.

Eh, I'm freaking out again, sorry guys >_____<
Unvote
@Mod: Votecount please

Xiz, I need reads from you for this current moment.

Xiz wrote:

Oh wait... there could be a Salini + Static Noise Bird world...


World 4:
Hika - Role?
Salini - Scum
Xiz - Town
Static Noise Bird - Scum
Gumica - Role

I also notice this same thing though er

Slaini, reads from you too.

NICE SNB IS A DOUBLE VOTER

Hika wrote:

also no, Xiz, enlighten me when you get on but I will only be listening to you for the time being.
Vote: SNB
for gut feeling :/

Of course you would go for me by gut feeling because you're the second most likely wolf.

Hika wrote:

NICE SNB IS A DOUBLE VOTER

Shhhhhhh.

There's both you and slaini though.
So you both have my suspicion but I'm not gonna let you go above gumi if he soft claims because you could be accusing him and be scum yourself.

Hika wrote:

There's both you and slaini though.
So you both have my suspicion but I'm not gonna let you go above gumi if he soft claims because you could be accusing him and be scum yourself.

You're working with words like "suspicion", which express that you tend to believe that there is a small possibility of SNB not being scum, still you vote him and put us in a L-1 loose situation if he is town.

scum Gumica>Hika>Xiz>SNB town

Hika thankfully unvoted already, and there's no near-lose situation there, since I'm nearly certain Xiz wouldn't fall for that (unless Xiz was somehow the last wolf).

It's not exactly a small possibility. It's more so 50/50 if anything.

Static Noise Bird wrote:

Hika thankfully unvoted already, and there's no near-lose situation there, since I'm nearly certain Xiz wouldn't fall for that (unless Xiz was somehow the last wolf).

Why would not he fall for that? There would be no disadvantages for him.

Just depends on what Xiz says that takes my vote away at this point.

BtW I am confirmed Cop now, if everyone noticed.

sLaiNi wrote:

BtW I am confirmed Cop now, if everyone noticed.

In the sense that we all couldn't come up with that 100%, what would be the reason why no one would have you confirmed as cop?

Because obviously one of you, or both of you, are lying.

Hika wrote:

just thought i'd crack up and say lmao to that, that made my day because yes, i'm obviously not a cop

Hika claimed non cop
Xiz claimed non cop
Gumica claimed non cop
SNB claimed non cop
I claimed cop


Funny thing you did not notice

Hika wrote:

Because obviously one of you, or both of you, are lying.

We can't both lie at the same time lawl, why should a town lie on being cop / seer.

I didn't say I didn't notice, I was wondering what would make people think you weren't a cop.

sLaiNi wrote:

Hika wrote:

Because obviously one of you, or both of you, are lying.

We can't both lie at the same time lawl, why should a town lie on being cop / seer.

Because ffs, MB did it, but that was a D1 sacrifice in order to eliminate all VT to limit it down to 1 VT 2 specific PRs.
This is just a flaw that you do not understand for some reason that I'm sure that Gumi and Xiz can see.

Like I said, this doesn't change a thing for me or my views on anything. I could be VT, I could be mafia, I could be cop, I could be seer. No one would know because no one has anything but suspicion.

It looks suspicious from the outside because of how CERTAIN the two of you are with each other. My post still was posted and still applies here.

So what are your reads with me basically being confirmed cop?