this is gunna b the first ranked map of this song!!!
p3n wrote:
[Skystar's Skyreach]
I was looking for more input on this map because it didn't receive many good mods yet. Personally I only have a problem with the inconsistent 1/4 jumps in one of the streams. This rest is what most of the players I asked for input complained about:
00:16:941 (2,1,2,1,2,3,1) - this is incredibly hard to read. Not hard to play once you know it but readability should be improved either by different combo settings or by using alternative patterns. replied detailedly below
00:54:593 (1,1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - the distance between 00:54:919 (3,1) - should be the same as for 00:54:593 (1,1) - to make it more consistent. yeah
01:26:253 (5) - you could use NC here to improve readability. Also consider moving 01:25:601 (1,2,3) - to 332/340 to have the same actual distance like the same pattern before @00:09:930 (1,2,3,4) - yeah
No kd. Just tell me what you think. Rest of the map seems fine.
http://puu.sh/avKTU/17cfab729c.osuBlue Dragon wrote:
[Skystar's Skyreach]Map itself seems pretty cool, I'm really starting to like your maps, Skystar. Good luck!
- 00:16:778 (1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1) - Yup, I disagree with these. They don't work well when playing because of the almost unreadable way they're put AND there is no beat in the blue ticks, you even had to silence the hitsounds there (which, as far as I know, is unrankable). this shouldn't be a problem here, from where i've spectated the players who ever tested it. yes i understand there's no beat at the blue ticks but they're just kick sliders, which require only a hit on the head, and which are what i wanted to use to emphasize the music as you can feel that they're some really stronger beats than the others. and for the placements, yes, i did focus more on the readability on this map and tried to make it more intuitive, while i think the patterns itself are now readable enough, i'll still try to rearrange the patterns without touching the rhythm to make it intuitive to be a compromise.
- 00:22:158 (1,1,2,1,2) - Same thing as above. as well as this one.
- 00:33:237 (1,2,3,4,5) - May be just me, but the flow here seems a bit broken because of the fast SV and the slow spacing. Increasing the spacing here would work a bit better IMO. okay, applied.
- 00:35:045 (2,3,4,5) - Same as ^. ^
- 00:37:654 (2,3,4,5,6,7) - idk, this was a bit confusing for me at first because it has one more beat than 00:36:349 (2,3,4,5,6) so it made me miss. Maybe you could position (7) differently to make it obvious that there is a beat there? but if you're like, moving your cursor automatically back and forth you shouldn't be missing here as the whole part is just using this kind of pattern, and changing the last note would be even, imo, worse to read.
- 00:41:078 (4,1) - This jump feels a bit unnecessary with the flow/intensity of the song. Positioning the slider at 232;16 seems to work much better. true, applied it, also applied some changes to the jumps before this one.
- 00:44:496 (2,1) - I don't know if you'll understand what I mean here, but IMO by the feel of the song, the flow here should be continuous, not broken. Doing something like this, IMO, works much better and plays as nice, as you can read it and follow the song at the same time. wooooow, this looks so cool, pretty much the best suggestion in the mod, thank you!
- 01:21:253 (1) - In my opinion, a normal-hitnormal hitsound doesn't work well here, as it's a 1/4 beat. Putting + whistle hitsound works better imo but there's a drumbeat?
- 01:26:253 (5) - I agree with p3n about the nc here. yeah
x.xCharles445 wrote:
Hello Charles
[Irie's Insane]
00:33:237 (1) - Shorten this so it isn't making a new tick, the end will be 15 ms early but that's way better than making an extra tick.
I tried to help out here, but I think there seems to be a bug which forces the extra tick to show itself.
Take this slider as an example, the length of this slider should be 180*341/326=188.282208588957. But after some trials, as soon as the real slider length reaches 181.4, the extra tick appears, which is pretty unreasonable and I couldn't understand it.
I used the same method to fix those unsnapped sliders in my diff a few days ago and it worked fine, but now it doesn't work for the other diffs here. So I'm raelly taking it as a osu bug, although I could not be sure.
Why can't timing be simple![]()
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sorry, i think there should be follow the bgmCharles445 wrote:
[wkyik's Insane]
01:21:036 (1,2) - 01:21:036 (2,1) - Instead of the 2 ending on the red tick, the curving U slider should start there so the player is clicking on the red tick -> http://puu.sh/awVl7.jpg
Charles445 wrote:
[Skystar]
00:33:237 (1) - Shorten this so it isn't making a new tick, the end will be 15 ms early but that's way better than making an extra tick. although i hate this tick too as it looks fucking ugly, but aimod would complain about it if we didn't do so
01:05:958 (5) - Delete this circle, it's an extra circle and shouldn't be there, there's a reset so the timing gets all silly. i've been thinking of this point and consulting with others whether i should put a note in or not, but i finally decided to add after some tests which verified that the pattern was absolutely playable, and since there's a beat at 01:05:958 -, it would be even more weird if i made the spot blank
01:21:036 (2,1) - Instead of the 2 ending on the red tick, the curving U slider should start there so the player is clicking on the red tick -> http://puu.sh/awTCI.jpg seems right
Why can't timing be simple![]()
wasn't the timing by you? lol. see what lks mentioned and warned in his post, he already pointed out that making it this precise doesn't make much sense for both mappers and players
Yeah the timing I tried here was based around that idea, that's why all of the timing sections line up with each other (except for the reset). The problem is that there's a slider on most difficulties that starts on the red tick and passes through the timing point, causing the unsnapped sliderend and making AIMod cranky and weird difficulty inconsistencies etc etcAmamiya Yuko wrote:
wasn't the timing by you? lol. see what lks mentioned and warned in his post, he already pointed out that making it this precise doesn't make much sense for both mappers and players
Starting the timing section on the red tick will fix that for sure, will rework the timing and make it hopefully not shit like I made it beforeNymph wrote:
be here because the mapper ask me this:
00:33:237 (1) - Shorten this so it isn't making a new tick, the end will be 15 ms early but that's way better than making an extra tick.
is it possible todelete the unnecessary slidertick And avoid the unsnap issue on aimod? try to figure this out with the mapper but we can't
Charles445 wrote:
The tick is hiding under the slider end in gameplay, they render in editor though.
SO I found out the deal with the song is that 184 pretty much covers the entire thing with little to no problems.
However the part at 1:06 is all sorts of screwed up, but I think I know a way to fix it
I'm working on that with GoldWave right now. Hopefully by the end of this the entire map will be 1 timing section.
Wow,big thanks ><
EDIT: Okay!!! All done
http://puu.sh/axFWB.mp3 This is the MP3. I edited the drums at 01:04:880 - so they are synced with the rhythm. You can map streams there with no problems now. Okay,changed the MP3,has no problem now : )
BPM 184 - Offset 805 should work for the whole song.
Offset and green line unsnapped all fixed for all diff,updated.
Thanks 445 help !
Charles445 wrote:
[Easy]
Tickrate 1, Tickrate 2 is causing lots of weird visual glitches and 1 fits the difficulty more Okay,change tick 1.
[Insane]
01:04:554 - This slider's length is bugged, move the endpoint to fix it. Fixed.
[Irie's Insane]
01:04:554 (1) - This slider's length is bugged, move the endpoint to fix it. Fixed.
[Zero's Insane]
01:06:022 - Add an inheriting section here that is 1.00x slider velocity. This will fix the sliders in this part of the map. Fixed.
[Chloe's iNsAnE]
01:04:554 - Change this inheriting section's velocity to 1.37x, this will fix the slider that starts there.Fixed the slider end,but use move the endpoint to fix.
[wkyik's Insane]
01:21:266 (2) - Move this slider so it starts on 1/3 at 01:21:239 - , it bugged during resnapping. -> http://puu.sh/azgmH.jpg Fixed.
Thanks 445 check ~ !
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Source:Akame ga Kill!
Tags:アカメが斬る! tv size opening takahiro tetsuya square enix white fox gangan comic joker black red eye girl anigi king blood ice zan slash sword cut head kill death die night raid Kawaiwkyik Zero__wind ZZHBOY Irie Miyuki Yuko chloe
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Ike's tail is easy to touch >.<BeatofIke wrote:
The sky is hard to reach!
Good luck for rank! :3
Cry Cry[_Crystal] wrote:
;w; when can it be ranked
It's actually snapped to 1/6, which is about where the sound hits in the background as well.Muya wrote:
[Skystar's]
01:21:239 (1) - unsnap here
star*Ace3DF wrote:
Going to say some of myfactsopinions here but Skyster and Chloe's diffs are horribly done... They don't flow at all and have notes all over just to go for a higher diff ranking. I can't think of any other reason why you'd have said notes in places other than trying to fight for a higher diff rating. It disturbs the whole flow of the map. But this is just my opinion and view on this. 1 map can make a whole mapset look bad.
Noobest meper cant even flow just try for extra sign here u goAmamiya Yuko wrote:
star*Ace3DF wrote:
Going to say some of myfactsopinions here but Skyster and Chloe's diffs are horribly done... They don't flow at all and have notes all over just to go for a higher diff ranking. I can't think of any other reason why you'd have said notes in places other than trying to fight for a higher diff rating. It disturbs the whole flow of the map. But this is just my opinion and view on this. 1 map can make a whole mapset look bad.
In no way do I mean to say it's a terrible map, I just think the flow is destroyed from the sudden fast jumps (i.e. the start, which even has a slow tempo)Liiraye wrote:
Noobest meper cant even flow just try for extra sign here u gopls no maek map more
jk nice mappu yo
extra bro, extra.Ace3DF wrote:
In no way do I mean to say it's a terrible map, I just think the flow is destroyed from the sudden fast jumps (i.e. the start, which even has a slow tempo)Liiraye wrote:
Noobest meper cant even flow just try for extra sign here u gopls no maek map more
jk nice mappu yo