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ZARD - Open your heart

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owl13
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2010年6月30日 at 下午 09:37:09

Artist: ZARD
Title: Open Your Heart
Tags: POCARI SWEAT
BPM: 108.03
Filesize: 3576kb
Play Time: 03:00
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (1.81 stars, 142 notes)
  2. Insane (4.91 stars, 477 notes)
  3. Normal (3.39 stars, 187 notes)
Download: ZARD - Open Your Heart
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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It is POCARI SWEAT Advertisement song , Hope you like it =]
Colin Hou
[General]:
  1. SB里用BG图貌似会遇到BG莫名其妙消失的问题...所以可能的话把BG复制一份用于SB吧
  2. 所有难度的KIAI没特殊情况的话一样比较好
[Easy]:
  1. 02:03:299 (2) - 这个起始圈怎么看起来好奇怪...改变下slider的形状就好了Orz
  2. Grid Level太低导致很多spacing都很有问题 建议用3(Tiny)来重新摆放下
  3. 02:25:784 (T) - 这根绿线没用的吧
  4. 02:57:569 (T) - ^
[Normal]:
  1. 01:51:085 (1,2,3,4,5) - 前面是x0.8的 这里变x0.7了? 直接导致后面都太拥挤了
  2. 02:25:784 (T) - 删掉绿线..
  3. 02:57:569 (T) - ^
[Insane]:
  1. 01:32:486 (1) - 这个reverse标志被挡得比较严重
  2. 绿线问题同上两个难度
现在有点困 可能有点偷懒... :P

star~
Topic Starter
owl13

Colin Hou wrote:

[General]:
  1. SB里用BG图貌似会遇到BG莫名其妙消失的问题...所以可能的话把BG复制一份用于SB吧
  2. 所有难度的KIAI没特殊情况的话一样比较好
现在有点困 可能有点偷懒... :P

star~

原來bg問題來源是這樣@@

done,thx~
LKs
ZARD美~

G

offest从第一个kiai开始就快了,我不知道是不是有变化,你问问别人吧。。我比较无能这个

Easy

其实跟着背景音的clap就行了,默认的clap不太fit这歌而且开的声音太大了,建议降低点

[00:44:332] 这线最好移到前面红线
[01;04:448] 这里不要clap
[01:36:650] 这不太适合linear slider吧

Normal

[00:46:682] 这里开始kiai
[02:44:383] 这里开始kiai

Insane

[01:34:984] new combo
[01:35:262] remove new combo

star
Topic Starter
owl13
THANK , 暫時改好了, g 的問題要研究一下
lxy
泉水姐~
Topic Starter
owl13
BPM is fixed now , -0.02 bpm
Pokie
hello owl~ relaxing songsss :D

[BlaBlaBla]
:o ...normal-hitsound群殺死我的耳朵

[Easy]
Fine.

[Normal]
02:41:081 (6) - 加一個slider來回
02:41:637 (1) - spinner在02:42:169開始

[Hard]
00:54:187 (6) - 跟00:53:354 (3) - 重疊
02:39:693 (4) - 跟02:38:582 (2) - ^

sleepy now... :roll:
Asutarotto
;) 你好

Pink words:You should fix this
Black words:Just suggestions
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[General]

soft音效降低15左右音量,normal音效降低20左右,聲音太響啦~

有一些微小的spacing錯誤,放note時,時刻註意觀察等時間是否等距(跳除外)

音效加的有些雜亂,給你提供個方法就是主要加在每一節的第二和第四拍上

請在song setup-colours選擇enable custom colours選擇合適的配合背景的note顏色

拉slider的時候請註意對稱,美觀的問題,在這上面花時間絕對值得

+star 加油 ;)
Topic Starter
owl13
參照意見進行了修改, THANK YOU
Shulin
General:

-- Delete .osb.
-- Make the combo colors the same on all diffs?
-- Hmm, song quality sounds kind of bad, can you find a better one? ^_^
-- I think the song title should be "Open Your Heart
-- BPM should be 108.03 Offset 39 (Though it's hard to tell with the mp3 ~)

Easy:

-- I like the blue combo color on this difficulty, maybe use it on the others to?

00:35:584 (4) - New combo.
00:46:413 -- Make kiai start on 00:46:690 (1) - instead.
00:55:297 -- Volume change intentional?
02:44:413 -- Make kiai start at 02:44:413 (1) ?

Normal:

-- Hitsounds too quiet.

00:35:584 (5) - New combo.
00:46:690 -- 01:04:458 ~ Honestly, I don't think the normal whistles suit this section.
00:47:246 (2) - Remove whistle from the slider.
01:25:839 (1) - ^
01:57:768 (1,2) - These normal whistles don't fit.
02:02:211 (1) - ^
02:53:020 (1,2,1,2) - Clustered, can you space these some more?
02:59:961 (1) - Remove whistle.

Nice map, the only thing I didn't like was the Normal whistle. The song is really soft so it sounded strange, I pointed out the places they sounded worse (imo), but you might want to change some of the others to ^_^

Insane:

-- Rename to Hard.
-- Hitsounds are too quiet.
-- I think you should use the "Normal" hitsounds some more ^_^

00:07:681 (2,3) - Spread these out a little, so it is like 00:05:321 (4,5,6) - and the other 1/4's.
00:37:667 (4,1) - Spacing!
00:45:857 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - Confusing, and looks messy. Make this a regular stream?
01:12:512 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Put this in the center of the grid? Looks better imo.
01:46:523 (1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - Consider using some "Normal" hitsounds here.
01:49:994 (2) - This plays weird, maybe place it where the slider ends?
01:51:105 (1) - ^
02:14:982 (3,4,5,6,7) - Spacing. Why are these 1/4's so widely spaced?
02:46:357 (1,2,3) - This feels a little clustered.

Hmm... lots of streams and triples, I'm not sure it suits the song to be honest.
Topic Starter
owl13
-- Delete .osb.

NO 0.0 , This map is SB MAP 0.0


-- Hmm, song quality sounds kind of bad, can you find a better one? ^_^

this song is old , so , very hard to find good quality :o


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Done,thank you
Sekuyi
Sorry it took so long~
For all maps, define a specific volume. You are using different volumes for the hitsounds in all diffs.

[Easy]
- 00:50:587 ~ (1) 1 grid up
- 00:52:253 ~ (3) 1 grid down
- 01:33:352 ~ (4) 1 left
- 02:46:109 ~ (end of 2) put a finish hitsound like in (1) ?

[Normal]
- 00:27:815 ~ (end of 5) only use whistle?
- 00:28:371 ~ (6) ^ ?
- 00:50:031 ~ (3,4) remove those and add a slider for this distance with whistle?
- 01:12:247 ~ (1) 2 grids to the right
- 01:58:622 ~ maybe add a note?
- 02:27:781 ~ (4,5) remove whistles and only use them on end of (4) and beginning of (5)

[Hard]
- 00:27:260 ~ (6,7) no stacking here, thats irritating here
- 01:01:000 ~ (5) remove and only place a circle here
- 01:13:358 ~ (7) 1 grid to the left
- 01:37:795 ~ lol, kewl slider :D
- 02:58:189 ~ (6) 1 grid down


Nice map and song^^ Have a star~*
Topic Starter
owl13
lol

done ,thank

i will try fix the volumes in next time
TTTTTTTTTTTT
Easy
fine...

一些建议

02:44:443(x) - note
02:44:720(1) - 移到右边的白线上
02:45:553(x) - note
02:45:831(1) - 移到右边白线上
或者用别的方法吧,觉得这里应该改下

normal
00:42:256(1) - 去掉slider上滑动时的whistle
00:43:366(2) - ^

建议
01:47:237(2) - clap 开始与结束都加
01:48:348(4) - ^

Hard
fine

starrr
Topic Starter
owl13
EASY:
其實我早就覺得那裡很空 :P
另外改好了

normal:
好了

THANK ^^
Gitanes_old
nice song
Topic Starter
owl13
thank ;)
kino77
Great job~ ;)

[General]
Disable countdown?

[Easy]
这hitsound也忒安静了...建议有normal-whistle的部分用40%,没有的部分用50%,spin用60%.

[Normal]
00:02:267 - Volume 40%?
00:19:484 - Volume 50%?
01:02:250 (1) - Volume 60%?
01:21:689 - Volume 50%?
01:47:237 (2,4) - 去掉clap并在这里渐强?
01:50:847 - Volume 50%?
01:57:651 - 删掉?
01:59:733 - ^
02:01:955 - ^
02:04:454 (1) - Volume 60%?
02:59:994 (1) - Volume 60%并去掉whistle?

[Hard]
音效照着easy和normal的设?
00:06:710 (1) - Sllider没画好.
02:03:621 (6,8) - 与2,4对称?

Have a star :3
Topic Starter
owl13
THANK, 以照參考更改了些
Kecco
•Normal•
00:06:710 (4) - 2 grids right?
00:08:932 (1) - 3 grids right?
00:10:043 (2,3,4) - 2 grids right?
02:58:883 (2) - Wrong spacing

•Easy•
00:40:034 (3,4) - Make those this way? -> http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/11262 (Just copy the slider (2) and changing the position rotating it with the commands on Edit>...)
02:48:886 (2) - 1 grid up and 2 left?
02:49:997 (3) - 2 grids left?

Star
Topic Starter
owl13
thank , Normal 2:58 forget use 0.5x 0.0

done ,
Leorda
NI HAO

This lady is already die :cry: Check here

[Storyboard]
I can see the many fade code error, if you want to make a fade, you have to check the .osb file, it's totally code like "1" or "0", find 0.0 (Ctrl+F -> Type "0.0") if you found it, you have to fix this, because this would be frame lost

[Easy]
00:50:587 (1) - Remove new combo?
00:51:142 (2) - New combo?
01:36:684 (4) - Move 3 grid down?

[Normal]
00:26:149 (4) - New combo?
01:21:966 (1) - Add 1 repeating slider?
01:46:681 (1) - Finish at start?
01:59:733 (x) - Add note?
02:31:946 (x) - ^
02:33:335 (4) - New combo?
02:40:555 (5) - ^

[Hard]
01:55:707 (2,3) - Reverse this? (Ctrl+R)
01:56:262 (5,6) - ^

Good song
STAR
Topic Starter
owl13
hi

yes ,she is die :(

[SB] Fixed

[E]Done
[N]Done
[H]Done

thank you
kodomonoyume
>.<
KRZY
[General]
Generally, try aligning the notes and sliders horizontally and vertically. This makes the map look much better in easier difficulties. You can align notes by holding down the "Shift" key while placing notes.

Also, a large portion of the notes are out of spacing. If you have decided to use 0.8x distance snap in this difficulty, you must stick to it since generally jumps are not allowed in Easy difficulties.

With that those in mind, resnap the notes.

[Normal]
00:48:365 (3) - How about this pattern? The rest of the notes must be distanced accordingly, of course.

Nothing wrong with [Easy] and [Hard] except the issues pointed out in [General]

Lot of work to do, but promising.
Star!
Topic Starter
owl13

DJ KRZY wrote:

[General]
[Normal]
00:48:365 (3) - How about this pattern? The rest of the notes must be distanced accordingly, of course.
feel it is not good , i not use it , but i'm Edit some note.

thank
Vikon
[General]
1) 或者係風格問題,我見呢個圖有用到normal-whistle。
有一部份人唔太鐘意呢d哨子聲,而且連續幾個notes用哨子或者都未必咁好 (e.g. [Easy]的00:48:920 (1,2,3) )
而且呢首咁靜ge歌,用哨子有d煞風景,或者試試每2個白tick,就加clap, 而一d位就用soft-finish ?
2) 個map 名,會唔會將 Open your Heart 變做 「心を開いて」ge 拼音好d?

[Easy]
00:28:64 無意義的timing section, 是手多了 還是 你忘了加改變?
00:40:034 (3,4,1,2) 這些slider使用whistle使刻意加的嗎? (個人覺得不好聽)
00:44:477 (3,4,5,6) 可以考慮加聲音漸大
02:04:17 這個timing sectiong的音量變化太小,加明顯一d? or取消改變?
02:43:887 (1) 呢覺spinner好似嘈左少少,轉細聲d or 變做soft-finish?

[Normal]
我始終對normal-whistle無太大好感 囧
01:46:681 (1,2,3,4) 音量漸進可以再明顯一點(即係每個timing section的音量差要大d)
02:43:887 (1,1) spinner後加1/2 note在normal來說,難了一點。

[Hard]
1)呢個diff要加audio lead-in (其他2個diff或者都加埋)
2)或者統一果d 「3連1/4 combo」 ge間距-_-? 你都知我沙包架啦 囧
3)個人覺得呢個diff太多1/4 combo 理由如上
00:02:405 無意義timing section?定係你唔記得加改變?
01:32:519 (1) 這個slider被01:31:130爆出果個300 遮住左,影響外觀

ok,mod完了-_- 叫wmf唔駛係M群催我了。
star~
Topic Starter
owl13
好吧,哨子取消掉,我是手痕加上去的-W-
MAP名既問題,就咁算啦,用返人地英文譯名好了


其餘:已按情況作出更改,


THANK
gdeath
[Hard]
01:01:139 (6) - add a note
hmm...SB很美,但我个人不是很喜欢这个难度,而且这应该算是Insane.
先说说为什么我觉得不好的原因吧。
1.soft-clap和Normal-whistle的音效不太适合整首歌的氛围,听起来也听刺耳的
2.串太多,破坏了节奏。eg:02:15:007 (3,4,5,6,7) - 对这个串最为反感
3.Combo Colors不太美观。试试以下我给你的(如果觉得满意,就全部难度的颜色换成这个保持一致)
[Colours]
Combo1 : 255,128,192
Combo2 : 255,255,255
Combo3 : 128,255,255
4.如果要以Hard命名吧Circle Size加1.整体感觉也美观多.

其他难度没什么问题。

Star!
Topic Starter
owl13

gdeath wrote:

[Hard]
01:01:139 (6) - add a note
hmm...SB很美,但我个人不是很喜欢这个难度,而且这应该算是Insane.
先说说为什么我觉得不好的原因吧。
1.soft-clap和Normal-whistle的音效不太适合整首歌的氛围,听起来也听刺耳的
2.串太多,破坏了节奏。eg:02:15:007 (3,4,5,6,7) - 对这个串最为反感
3.Combo Colors不太美观。试试以下我给你的(如果觉得满意,就全部难度的颜色换成这个保持一致)
[Colours]
Combo1 : 255,128,192
Combo2 : 255,255,255
Combo3 : 128,255,255
4.如果要以Hard命名吧Circle Size加1.整体感觉也美观多.

其他难度没什么问题。

Star!
本來就是叫Insane的,只是11樓叫我rename to Hard。。。還是改回[I]好了,待我回家再改~THANK
Mok
Updated Mod's Info:
Mine are all suggestions. You're free to follow or not this mod :3
If I found a beat who must be added, i'll write it.
Remember to check spacing after all modfies :3

[General]
Mp3 is </3.

For the rest, i think map is okay! :D
NatsumeRin
Red: You must fix this.
Blue: You'd better do sth with this imo.
Green: Just suggestions.

[General]
offset:大概-10
Normal难度的Lead-in是1511ms,其他两难度是1500ms,记事本打开.osu文件改一下。 AudioLeadIn: 1500
想要在slider的所有拍都加上hitsounds(如whistle)时,不要直接点slider加,因为会改变slider滑动的音效,请一个一个去点了加。不要嫌麻烦
kiai time请统一,另外kiai time无论是起始还是终止都请和换音量的线分开放置。

[Easy]
hitsounds对我来讲比较干(另就是默认clap不太合),但是或许只是我而已。
00:06:710 (3,1) - 和前面对应,switch new combo
00:46:699 (1) - 除去说kiai线问题,这里的音量变化对我来说大了点。
00:55:030 (3) - whistle?
01:36:684 (4,1) - spacing
01:50:014 (1,2) - spacing

[Normal]
01:35:574 (2) - 听着违和。
01:51:125 (1,2,3,4,5) - 如果是想要正五边的话,这个不标准。。。(125间距)
02:31:113 (1,2) - 这两处(呃跳了一个new combo)的四分感觉无意义

[Insane]
不敢确定slider带circle连点这种形式是否适合这歌。
00:55:030 (1) - 往右上挪一点(关了grid snap)
01:12:525 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 这实在有点畸形了……外圈摆个正六边吧
01:39:184 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ……^
02:13:896 (1,2) - 不对称
Topic Starter
owl13
THANK, 已經作出修改。以後新弄的MAP不會再直接點slider加SOUND了 ;)
banvi
Hello.
I know ZARD & this song~ :)

mod
SPOILER
General
Timing is wrong(a bit fast)?_? But I don't have timing skill. I'm sorry :cry:
And resnap all note.
Easy
02:55:495 (1) 1 grid left?
Normal
00:44:977 (4) 1 grid right?
Insane
00:33:036 (3) 1 grid down?
00:34:146 (2,3) 1 grid left?
00:34:424 (1,2) ^
02:51:051 (3) 1 grid up and 1 grid right?
02:52:162 (5) 1 grid down?

Nice map , star & gl ;)
Topic Starter
owl13
Thank, I Feel bit fast too,i fix it now

Resnap Done~
Frill
These are suggestions, you don't have to change anything.

[General]

- Delete osb file and full submit

[Normal]

00:28:914 (1) - add whistle in end
00:30:025 (2) - remove whistle start and add in end
00:41:133 (4,1,2) - add whistle in end
00:43:354 (2) - remove whistle start
01:01:960 - (green timing section) - Volume: 5

[Insane]

00:37:662 (4) - remove circle?

NIce map.
Topic Starter
owl13
some is good , thank , but i'm is made the SB, why suggestions me delete the SB :o
Armin
I think you should use also this custom hitsound: http://up.ppy.sh/files/soft-hitclap.wav
up to you

[Easy]

00:08:920 (4,5,6) - These are a bit ugly for me. Just a suggestion, I think in this way that pattern would be better:



00:48:908 (1,2,3,4) - Make a perfect quadrangle (Adjust (4)'s position)
02:26:658 (1) - Add a finish at the start instead (remove the one at the end)
03:04:425 (Timing section) Make this timing section Soft, like in the Insane diff

[Normal]

03:04:425 (Timing section) Make this timing section Soft, like in the Insane diff

[Insane]

02:47:763 (8) - The repeat is hidden from the previous hitobject. Consider to change the position of this slider (or just rotate it)

I have to complain the quality of the mp3, it's VERY bad. Try with this:
http://www.mediafire.com/?t2oldi0omti
Anyway, no major problems found, starred :)
Topic Starter
owl13
thank you

ok , Done , Edit the new mp3 now ;)
Garven
As per your request:

[General]
You have over a minute of mp3 that isn't used. I suggest cropping it. If you don't know how, pm me back and I can get it done for you.
The hit sounds are so quiet. :/

[Easy]
02:28:880 (1) - Hm.. maybe curve this a bit more sharp so you don't have overlap with the next combo's slider?
02:52:762 - This .5 bpm section doesn't make any sense in the music. If anything, this is the big finale of the song. Why slow down? Also wouldn't recommend in in an easy difficulty anyway as the spacing gets weird [02:52:206 (3,1)] when you start it up and it may confuse the newer players.

[Normal]
You could easily get away with reducing the circle size by one.
00:24:471 (2) - Turn the endpoint of this slider so it's not overlapping the 3.
This diff's .5 bpm section fits much better than easy's.

[Insane]
You could get away with calling this hard.
02:52:206 (5) - This really sticks out bad compared to the rest of the map. Just keep it bezier without the red anchor points.

Not much to pick at here. Great storyboard, nice map set. :D
Topic Starter
owl13
OK, I FIX THE MP3 NOW ,

Good suggest , ALL DONE ,

THANK YOU ;)
Clare
hi~

你放了solf-hitclap,怎麼不多利用點?
音量都提高15~25%?有點小聲阿(你換過MAP3對吧?這次的音量比之前的大吧?
187[Easy]
00:06:698 (3) - new combo?
00:10:586 (3) - ^

[Normal]
01:48:891 (T) - 沒用到的綠線刪掉吧
01:49:030 (T) - ^
02:50:540 (1,2) - spaicing
02:54:150 (1,2) - ^

[Insane]
沒什麼問題

nice map
star!
Snowy Dream
so a nice map
~star~
chihiro_yaya
TAT终于有人做泉水姐姐的歌了~开心~~
star
Topic Starter
owl13
Thank,

音量增加了, 自定音效也有郊地用上了。

沒用到的綠線其實只是沒按到KIAI :o
IceBeam
Hi.

[Easy]
00:43:370 (2) - Stack with 00:41:149 (4).
00:56:700 (2) - You could stack it with 00:55:034 (3).
01:49:030 (x) - What this timing point for? Delete it.
02:01:126 (3) - Allign with 01:58:904 (2).

[Normal]
00:43:370 (2) - Fix the shape.You could copy it from 00:42:260 (1).
02:57:633 (x) - Using 0.5x in Normal? Not a good idea.

[Insane]
00:44:759 (1,2,3,4,5) - Making jumps here?
01:40:021 (1) - Was it purposely? I'm thinking about straight vertical line.
Also,Normal histounds in second Kiai section are a bit loud.Think of reducing volume.

Nice map,star~
Topic Starter
owl13
Use some , Thank
yaya
这么多人看过。。竟然没人说OFFSET
这OFFSET太三小了。
用67吧。我可以SS.
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01:01:437 - 建议这里加点东西。很好的节奏段。like this? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/14786 不要管我的排列
02:04:474 (1,1,2,3,4) - http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/14787 像这样?可以做个jump啊之类的。
02:24:468 (1,1) - 这里有两个鼓点。所以咱就做两个音出来。http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/14788
02:45:573 (6) - 这个开头的音效,也加finish
02:59:458 (3) - 这加一个slider . 半拍
03:00:014 (1) - 这是spinner.然后最后加几个note.看图 http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/14790
图很nice.我喜欢

别的没什么。改完给我发pm.
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owl13
OFFSET因為是剛剛換了mp3檔, 實際換後只有3位人mod過, 也許他們都對OFFSET還不太熟沒mod出吧 :roll:

已參考建議作出更改

THANK you 你了 :)
yaya
bubble.
matthewhln
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owl13
thank ;)
ztrot
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owl13
THANK YOU :)
Anze_old
你可以利用zard- dan dan kokoro hikarateku
Ibuki Suika
可惜osu里真是没多少泉水的歌

sad :(
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