omedetou Gaia-senpai!! ^o^
green lines, well.. pretty useless telling me now when i cant do anything about them.. but in any case its not that big of an issue to cause a dq anyways so yeahhopperhtkn wrote:
[General]
Artist should be "れをる" same as Amamiya Yuko's Mapset
Only in Promotion movie has "Vocal : Reol" but it's not true Source like this
what makes you think his set is correct then? but if you're looking for a source.. then here's what it looks like in the actual cd p/3963623
[Kibboo's Insane]
01:25:632 - It's useless Inherited Point. You should remove this
[P A N's Extra]
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00:49:844 - ^
01:25:632 - ^
02:20:415 - ^
Actually her official introduced herself as "れをる" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RGctbcrfk8Gaia wrote:
well..green lines, well.. pretty useless telling me now when i cant do anything about them.. but in any case its not that big of an issue to cause a dq anyways so yeahhopperhtkn wrote:
[General]
Artist should be "れをる" same as Amamiya Yuko's Mapset
Only in Promotion movie has "Vocal : Reol" but it's not true Source like this
what makes you think his set is correct then? but if you're looking for a source.. then here's what it looks like in the actual cd p/3963623
[Kibboo's Insane]
01:25:632 - It's useless Inherited Point. You should remove this
[P A N's Extra]
00:10:632 - Useless Inherited Point
00:19:763 - ^
00:49:844 - ^
01:25:632 - ^
02:20:415 - ^
Hahaha. This is ridiculous. As if most of the people here speak/ understand Japanese fluently enough to know what the song is about. People have been putting "moe girl" BGs to almost every Japanese song (even English ones). Perhaps, you have put backgrounds like those to some unfitting songs yourself, Fycho.One of the QAT wrote:
The bg is a girl licking a candied apple. The song is a tragic love. It doesnt even fit the tone of the vocals and song despite the lyrics.
Thanks Fycho + other QATsFycho wrote:
- pk's Hard's OD setting is way low. I don't think OD6 is very low, perhaps you mistook the normal diff's OD for the hard diff
- pk's Hard: 02:37:045 (2) - The random extended slider doesn't fit any sort of consistency within the map fixed
- pk's Hard: 03:07:371 (1) - 03:18:458 (1) - Even these sliders, it's rolling over strong beats. I recommend to end at 03:07:861 - 03:19:274 –7
I left the first one as a transition from low density to high density objects. I reduced the length of the second one to the white tick
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Maybe because you wanted to see it in your top ranks.MetoA wrote:
This song was my favorite i couldn't stop listening to it, and also rip 332 and 290 pp plays i got ;-;
(well i can stil listen to it, it was more fun to play it when it was qualified idk why xD)
Please fix those probrems when update.hopperhtkn wrote:
[Kibboo's Insane]
01:25:632 - It's useless Inherited Point. You should remove this
[P A N's Extra]
00:10:632 - Useless Inherited Point
00:19:763 - ^
00:49:844 - ^
01:25:632 - ^
02:20:415 - ^
I would like to see concrete examples of where you believe these "issues" have arisen, and more importantly why. Vagueness in something like quality will get you nowhere with me, because I have just as strong, if not stronger opinions on how maps of this caliber should function, honed through years of both playing and mapping maps similar in concept. If you would like to discuss with me directly, feel free. But I have no intentions to simply bend over to these flawed and uninformed opinions, and firmly believe this does not need major revision to be ranked.Loctav wrote:
- Concurring to the original disqualification, we want to raise our concerns on captin's Extra, too. While the Extra has a connection to the music, we miss the connection to the music on this difficulty quite a lot.
The extended sliders, that forces you to alternate, because why not; I can go through and clearly articulate both the reason, and the consistency that these sliders create. Difficulty in rhythm is something that lacks in many maps and I very well take into account the playstyle needed in order to play these correctly in the map
kicksliders because why not; Each kickslider is either representing 1/4 in the music or a particular sound or emphasis that I feel is deserving of both the distinct playstyle and movement that kicksliders create.
triplets because why not. These are often not even expanding upon the music. There is 1/4 track in the music that I am using these triples to help emphasize and bring out the music in a new color than the previous difficulties.
We are not saying that the map plays bad or is poorly mapped. It just does not listen to the music. If I wanted to map without listening to the music, I would do it without headphones. I can assure you, each part of this map correlates to the music very clearly
Whereas the Extra has a multitude of concepts that were not composed together fluently, this one appears to have no real concept and is more of a compilation of difficult patterns for the sake of it. They are not just mapped "for the sake of it." There are very clear and distinct reasons for each and every pattern in the map, and they are intentionally done yes, to be difficult. But difficulty in itself is not a bad thing. If every map was like Gaia's Extra, there would be little variety in the mapping community.
We believe that the Extra, if polished as we mentioned, would suffice for this mapset. Hence captin's Extra is a version that is more mapped for difficulty than correlation to the music. This is what I mean when I say that people are detached. Even the QAT themselves did not have any issue with this map, and yet you suddenly decide it needs an entire rework. This is completely against any sort of "community driven" ranking process, and instead clearly shows that it is a "management driven" one. The standards of the community as a whole are more important than your own
We miss how you did not follow the song more than just in a basic way, without attempting to represent the music in the best way possible. This can not be ranked and therefore we can not let it pass. I am not just representing the music, I am emphasizing it, and showing people my understanding of it. Mapping is what I do to share my passion for music with others, and when they play my maps, I wish for them to see how I see the song.
thank you for your time spent formatting thisLucaSA4 wrote:
Well, not really a mod, just a suggestion, don't give kudosu. I want this song back ranked :3
Kibboo's Insane
00:19:763 (1) - This is really ugly and odd and I don't have words to describe this '-'
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301,204,224871,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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335,234,226665,1,0,3:0:0:0:
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123,33,230252,1,0,0:0:0:0:
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364,150,233350,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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Love Me Again wrote:
this must get requalified, my favourite maaaap
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Chaoslitz wrote:
As requested.
Other diffs are fine as mentioned in Loctav's post so I will focus in Extra and captin's Extra
[notice][Extra]I am not going to comment a lot about usage of the 1/4 sliders in captin's Extra, but I would like to see more mods in order to get more opinions from different players/modders to see if it is appropriate, so that we can push it forward
- 00:21:556 (3) - I would suggest you to change the shape of this slider, unlike 01:23:676 (1) the current one here with red anchors do not fit to the music well, thus flow looks weird when it comes to 00:21:393 (2,3,4) actually (3) flows really well into (4) and (5) to (1) is a back and forth pattern
- 00:31:828 (3,4) - 00:34:111 (1,2,3,4) - The spacing is too large when it is the calm part, which is not suitable. so I recommend you to decrease the spacing in this two jumps as it contradict with the music, the other two 00:36:719 (1,2,3,4) and 00:39:328 (1,2,3,4) are fine in my opinion sure i guess
- 00:47:154 (1,2,3,4) - You may have to change the pattern and the spacing among these notes, especially when this stack is much similar than in the one calm part 00:31:502, they should be different since the music in 00:47:154 (1,2,3,4) is strong, it should have a larger spacing than those in 00:31:502 (1,2,3,4) or 00:34:111 (1,2,3,4) and so on these notes are stronger, hence the larger spacing.. oh well moved a little anyways
- 01:46:339 (3) - Same reason as 00:21:556 (3) (4) is a kick, wanted to break flow a little
- 01:46:828 (4,5,1,2) - Flow is poor in here, it did mention in Fycho's post as well, 01:47:317 (2) breaks the back and forth vertical movement in 01:46:828 (4,5,1), even though the flow in 01:46:991 (5,1,2) is smooth enough. In my opinion I would suggest to put 01:47:317 (2) below 01:47:154 (1) instead of a similar horizontal level. For example: yes the flow from the teal to blue combo isnt ideal but do recognize how there's a different instrument kicking in at 01:47:154 (1) - so the flow break follows that
- 02:14:056 (4,5,6,1) - May consider to increase the spacing here as it is a bit close compared to other parts in chorus from (6) to (1)? still an antijump but move further away a bit
- 02:25:958 (5,1) - As disqualification post mentioned, the spacing sudden decreased in here and i do agree, so I would suggest to place it higher for a bit wat? the spacing into (5) is 1.72 and out of it is 1.79 so i have no idea what you're talking about.. it increased..
- 02:28:730 (7,1) - Same as here, increase the spacing as well antijump :>
- 02:56:284 (1,2,3) - 02:56:937 (4,5) - Spacing with 1/4 gaps is large when compared with others like 01:07:371 (3) or 02:04:763 (4) or others, the music is soft and there is no vocal so it is not suitable to emphasis with a large jump, I would recommend you to reducing the spacing here if you decided to keep using 1/4 sliders in this soft part listen to the synthesizer thing, is it there on the other parts? nope. granted the 2nd part doesnt have it so i did move it around
- 03:53:187 (4,5,6) - The music is not strong enough to place a jump that large, Try this one instead: actually the problem here is the jump into (6) which i moved
- 03:54:654 (1,2) - Another one mentioned by the dq post as well. Since the drums sound in 03:54:654 (1,2) is softer than in 03:54:328 (1,2), it should not have a larger spacing, or even use 1/4 sliders to represent, perhaps you can reduce the spacing so that it is the closer or you can try small jumps with 4 notes as well not following drums, following the stream part
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