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cptnXn
its annoying me with myself aswell, yeah its kind of to be expected but i just stated my opinion there. I hate it because others deserve way more attention, for example first time OWC players who consistently play good are just not even mentioned once, thats pretty sad

edit: and if someone can change that atleast a bit it would be the commentators, thats what im hoping for
the chat will always be www fangirls all the way
pielak213
I haven't watched any of Poland's matches but I can definitely say the commentators weren't only focusing on the star players in the matches I've watched. They didn't orgasm over happystick, sapphireghost or dragonhuman. I would say they're focusing a lot on unpopular people in fact because I would not have noticed MathClass pretty much fced every map she played during her match against China. I would say the commentators are doing a good job at not focusing on the superstar players. They do sound very awkward though.

I really hope peppy stays true to his word and next week we can watch the matches without any fake combo breaks. Surprised he didn't fix it last year.
buny

pielak wrote:

I haven't watched any of Poland's matches but I can definitely say the commentators weren't only focusing on the star players in the matches I've watched. They didn't orgasm over happystick, sapphireghost or dragonhuman. I would say they're focusing a lot on unpopular people in fact because I would not have noticed MathClass pretty much fced every map she played during her match against China. I would say the commentators are doing a good job at not focusing on the superstar players. They do sound very awkward though.

I really hope peppy stays true to his word and next week we can watch the matches without any fake combo breaks. Surprised he didn't fix it last year.
i haven't really seen too much hype for star players either, other than the occasional comment on how well they're doing on the song which pretty much all players playing in the current map gets

I think on free mod picks, the commentators should focus more on the players that have the mods on rather than the no mods because the mods turned on is what makes the match interesting. In fact, I hope that free mods bracket turns into more of a mirror mod next year, minus flashlight (has anyone actually picked fl?...)
silmarilen
the whole nl team picked hd fl on a warmup map, but that doesnt really count dat 400 combo from synchro tho
Alumetorz
fartownik

cptnXn wrote:

here2pown wrote:

WWW carry

poland ftw
can this please stop it is so annoying

www fcing with nomod, farto fcing with hr on freemod, who gets hyped by chat AND commentators? www of course.
3 people on polish team have same acc, commentators: "look at this amazing acc from www"

i basically have to mute the stream when poland is playing because it is SO annoying.
yes he is a good player and shit but this is just going too far and disrespecting all the other players too much.
I really want to make a compilation video with the best ones 8)
Gigo

pielak wrote:

... MathClass pretty much fced every map she played during her match against China.
Wow, really? I had no idea. :o Very cool!
zyvik_old
!Warning - this post can contain engrish! You have been warned.
I'd like to talk about 2 things:

1. Situation with Twitch chat.
It is just my oppinion, but this chat is hype chat and you cant change it no matter how much you try. OWC stream has about 3k viewers. Lets say that only about 15% of those ppl actually type in chat (wchitch is +- 450). You just suimply can not have discussion (of any kind) with so many participants, because the voice of 1 man sinks in screaming of the others.
Twitch chat is very similar to fans on stadium - they scream (caps on), they sing simple songs (dududududududdu), they cheer for their favourite players and they very easly get hyped.
So I don't see why you should not let them do those things.
If some one doesn't like crowds on stadium he just watches match in TV at his house, where he can enjoy game and comments of casters more than he could at stadium. Same thing should be with Twitch - if you dont like it's chat just hide it (there is button for that), or watch on full screen, and let others get hyped.
And if you wish to have "discussion" about match just use #OWC in game.

I dont say that this chat should be let on its own - there still should be timeouts for ppl spaming pastas (etc.) not related to match, or OSU! in general.

2. Lets call it "WWW Case". I watched PL vs FR game and I think that some of you just overreact. Yes, WWW is very often praised for his perfromance, but it is not like the other playes don't get credit... For me it looked like this: "WWW still with double S", 2-3 sec later "AmaiHachimitsu and NerO have perfect score as well".
I understand that for some players this can be annoying and they can recive this as "kind of staying in shadow of WWW", but as Jetzu said - he is something like celebrity of OSU and you just have to face it. (Or maby build your own picture, and become "celebrity" as well ;) )

BTW. There is big improvement in casters job compared to last year, so I dont see reasons to complaining about this. Keep on good work.

Just free Twitch chat
-Ryuujii-

zyvik wrote:

!Warning - this post can contain engrish! You have been warned.
I'd like to talk about 2 things:

1. Situation with Twitch chat.
It is just my oppinion, but this chat is hype chat and you cant change it no matter how much you try. OWC stream has about 3k viewers. Lets say that only about 15% of those ppl actually type in chat (wchitch is +- 450). You just suimply can not have discussion (of any kind) with so many participants, because the voice of 1 man sinks in screaming of the others.
Twitch chat is very similar to fans on stadium - they scream (caps on), they sing simple songs (dududududududdu), they cheer for their favourite players and they very easly get hyped.
So I don't see why you should not let them do those things.
If some one doesn't like crowds on stadium he just watches match in TV at his house, where he can enjoy game and comments of casters more than he could at stadium. Same thing should be with Twitch - if you dont like it's chat just hide it (there is button for that), or watch on full screen, and let others get hyped.
And if you wish to have "discussion" about match just use #OWC in game.

I dont say that this chat should be let on its own - there still should be timeouts for ppl spaming pastas (etc.) not related to match, or OSU! in general.

2. Lets call it "WWW Case". I watched PL vs FR game and I think that some of you just overreact. Yes, WWW is very often praised for his perfromance, but it is not like the other playes don't get credit... For me it looked like this: "WWW still with double S", 2-3 sec later "AmaiHachimitsu and NerO have perfect score as well".
I understand that for some players this can be annoying and they can recive this as "kind of staying in shadow of WWW", but as Jetzu said - he is something like celebrity of OSU and you just have to face it. (Or maby build your own picture, and become "celebrity" as well ;) )

BTW. There is big improvement in casters job compared to last year, so I dont see reasons to complaining about this. Keep on good work.

Just free Twitch chat
nope. And yes casters are doing an amazing job! and also Mods <3
Warpyc

peppy wrote:

The stream is already buffered. The "fake misses" are being actively worked on, and should be fixed by next weekend. It's more complex than you may think. That said, "fake misses" are already at the point where they recover within 1 second. The audio desync was due to some experimental code that was tested this weekend which performed poorly. I didn't have much control over that and was not present when it was deployed, else I would not have allowed it.

But that Japan vs Sweden match, right? Am I the only one that found it entertaining?
You are not alone that match was amazing i was sure Sweden would loose, maybe eu country can win this year we'll see. #GoSweden :D
Alumetorz
So we are facing Ukraine this sunday

Xytox
The bad manner is already starting.
Synchrostar
xytox pls this isnt trashtalk thread, we are trying to have a civil, proper discussion over here

Wishy
Sweden beat Japan? LOL
miComet

pielak wrote:

MathClass pretty much fced every map she played during her match against China.


I am a MALE
What the....
Rewben2

MathClass wrote:

pielak wrote:

MathClass pretty much fced every map she played during her match against China.


I am a MALE
What the....
well...
Omgforz

Rewben2 wrote:

MathClass wrote:

I am a MALE
What the....
well...
....shit.
Athrun
Oh daemn son.
Bauxe

MathClass wrote:

pielak wrote:

MathClass pretty much fced every map she played during her match against China.


I am a MALE
What the....
Liar liar.
Makan1

MathClass wrote:

pielak wrote:

MathClass pretty much fced every map she played during her match against China.


I am a MALE
What the....
._.
silmarilen
everybody on the internet is female until proven otherwise
buny

silmarilen wrote:

everybody on the internet is female until proven otherwise
hey gals lol guy gamer hereee xD

also let's not drift away from the actual topic, i hope the queen crashes an burns
jesse1412

MathClass wrote:

pielak wrote:

MathClass pretty much fced every map she played during her match against China.


I am a MALE
What the....
I do believe we have another mermaid magic girl on our hands.
Morurc
There's only one way to prove it, MathClass...
Vuelo Eluko
what the Fark
B1rd
Did Japan seriously get knocked out of the tournament? Well that's shit. I blame loctav.

I guess now I'll support whoever wins Poland vs Korea.
Nwolf
wtf Japan is still in the tournament, did everybody suddenly forget why Losers Bracket is there?
buny

B1rd wrote:

Did Japan seriously get knocked out of the tournament? Well that's shit. I blame loctav.

I guess now I'll support whoever wins Poland vs Korea.
loser bracket, still a chance to win owc
Cyclohexane
about the hyping up players thing, we try to keep a balance going. Of course, if a player like WWW/rrtyui/HappyStick steps in, we're gonna hype it up if only because they're so well known, the viewers will recognize them very easily and they'll be hyped up as well. We do have to point out the strong players that are not as well known; people have already mentioned MathClass's outstanding overall performance, and if any of the lesser known players pull off strong plays, we'll be sure to mention them as well.

The commentary is generally awkward when there's nothing going on, I agree. There's many times where it's just radio silence, waiting for setup. You could argue that we could discuss the upcoming/ongoing match, but it's usually very quickly done and we can very quickly become obnoxious by repeating ourselves. ztrot is very good at interacting with people for padding, however I don't look at twitch chat due to my setup (laptop warriors where we at) so I can't really do that. I am going to send an invitation to ToGlette and jesus1412 to speak up a little bit more if they feel like it. Raiku has already given us a lot of insight on gameplay which I think made the commentary so much more valuable than just my/ztrot's play-by-play.
AmaiHachimitsu

Nwolf wrote:

wtf Japan is still in the tournament, did everybody suddenly forget why Losers Bracket is there?
Yesterday on Synchrostar's livestream somebody said that Poland is out of the competition because we lost to NL :^
Xytox

B1rd wrote:

Did Japan seriously get knocked out of the tournament? Well that's shit. I blame loctav.
Obviously Loctav gave Sweden an edge by not only decreasing Japan's score without anyone knowing, but also physically attacking and injuring their star player rrtyui and making him unable to participate. This was all done by the command of Zallius in order to increase the chances of the team he was rooting for to win.

I mean, Zallius WAS cheering for Sweden after all. Coincidence?
ToGlette

MathClass wrote:

pielak wrote:

MathClass pretty much fced every map she played during her match against China.


I am a MALE
What the....
I knew this from the beginning. :)
buny

Xytox wrote:

B1rd wrote:

Did Japan seriously get knocked out of the tournament? Well that's shit. I blame loctav.
Obviously Loctav gave Sweden an edge by not only decreasing Japan's score without anyone knowing, but also physically attacking and injuring their star player rrtyui and making him unable to participate. This was all done by the command of Zallius in order to increase the chances of the team he was rooting for to win.

I mean, Zallius WAS cheering for Sweden after all. Coincidence?


how do we know it wasn't you and that you're trying to frame the germans? and the australians
conspiracy confirmed
Varetyr


makes sense, now you say it
Proxy


makes sense, now you say it
confirmed
Xayne

Mr Color wrote:

about the hyping up players thing, we try to keep a balance going. Of course, if a player like WWW/rrtyui/HappyStick steps in, we're gonna hype it up if only because they're so well known, the viewers will recognize them very easily and they'll be hyped up as well. We do have to point out the strong players that are not as well known; people have already mentioned MathClass's outstanding overall performance, and if any of the lesser known players pull off strong plays, we'll be sure to mention them as well.

The commentary is generally awkward when there's nothing going on, I agree. There's many times where it's just radio silence, waiting for setup. You could argue that we could discuss the upcoming/ongoing match, but it's usually very quickly done and we can very quickly become obnoxious by repeating ourselves. ztrot is very good at interacting with people for padding, however I don't look at twitch chat due to my setup (laptop warriors where we at) so I can't really do that. I am going to send an invitation to ToGlette and jesus1412 to speak up a little bit more if they feel like it. Raiku has already given us a lot of insight on gameplay which I think made the commentary so much more valuable than just my/ztrot's play-by-play.
Having done a bit of small-time casting in the past, I can say it would help if there were someone who made it a point to ask questions if it did start to feel like conversation was winding down. Whether they are simple questions that everyone would already know the answer to is irrelevant. The general rule is that ANY kind of information being given is better than silence. You could go into history in past OWC's for the respective countries, take that time to mention some of the lesser known players, etc. At times like that, repeating a topic is still a better option than just letting the cast die. There's plenty that could fill the silence, but it's a billion times easier if there's someone who's main purpose is to ask questions. It's much easier to answer on a topic than to just randomly create one. Just my two cents.
Alumetorz

Varetyr wrote:



makes sense, now you say it
DAMMIT GUYS, YOU FIGURED OUT
Saten

Xytox wrote:

I mean, Zallius WAS cheering for Sweden after all. Coincidence?
he was gonna promise to visit IKEA and eat meatballs if Sweden won
kuur0
announcing "player of the game" or "tournament mvp" or something like that, imo would be pretty fun
Vuelo Eluko

Mr Color wrote:

I am going to send an invitation to ToGlette and jesus1412 to speak up a little bit more if they feel like it. Raiku has already given us a lot of insight on gameplay which I think made the commentary so much more valuable than just my/ztrot's play-by-play.
All I really want is more jesus casting, besides my fanboyism i really think he has a lot of relevant player perspective to give, i think he should look at the matchups beforehand and take some time to write down his thoughts prior to the broadcast on the players/map/whatever and keep it up while casting so he'd have more to say and it would just be so enriching to the viewing experience overall

That said, Xytox's donut avatars look so tasty, every time i see them i imagine how they taste and it drives me to insanity.
Melt3dCheeze
https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/10635177
Russia 5 : Australia 2
dududududududududududududu

p.s
Ghost Assassin was glitched due to Kert's dismissal. Note FluxVanes' colour change.
Kert
Except my score has been sumbitted alright and all
http://puu.sh/d0Mu2/f438a78249.png
buny

Melt3dCheeze wrote:

https://osu.ppy.sh/mp/10635177
Russia 5 : Australia 2
dududududududududududududu

p.s
Ghost Assassin was glitched due to Kert's dismissal. Note FluxVanes' colour change.
rip aus



coz i wasnt allowed to play for them
Melt3dCheeze

buny wrote:

coz i wasnt allowed to play for them
Hey, we got 8 people denied to play OWC, wasn't really nice tbh lmao.
Melt3dCheeze

Kert wrote:

Except my score has been sumbitted alright and all
http://puu.sh/d0Mu2/f438a78249.png
Are you allowed to say it publically the reason p3n gave you?
Kert

Melt3dCheeze wrote:

Are you allowed to say it publically the reason p3n gave you?
He hasn't responded yet, so I have no idea
plaatinum
Just a little update with the teams left in the tournament after the loser's bracket first round

Americas: 1 2
Europe: 7 9
Asia: 4
Oceania: 1
Omgforz

Plaatinum wrote:

Just a little update with the teams left in the tournament after the loser's bracket first round

Americas: 1 2
Europe: 7 9
Asia: 4
Oceania: 1
rip europe, more will follow soon hahaha
Onii-chan
Hey, what were the scores today? Not sure where to check, wiki doesn't say.
Andrea
Results
Russia 5-2 Australia
Taiwan 5-2 United Kingdom
France 1-5 China
Argentina 0-5 Japan

There you go.
- Marco -
Argentina #rekt lel
Mikelicious
rip
uee
I'm not surprised that the three Asia teams went through, I was surprised they were in the losers bracket anyway.
rip uk
Pangus
i recorded taiwan vs uk but wasnt awake to record japan :(
buny

Peter-San wrote:

i recorded taiwan vs uk but wasnt awake to record japan :(
aren't they getting automatically recorded
Pangus

buny wrote:

Peter-San wrote:

i recorded taiwan vs uk but wasnt awake to record japan :(
aren't they getting automatically recorded
i dont know, i just wanted to have my own rec/vids on my pc with the twitch chat and everything
xJianL520x
what is the result of yesterday matches??
Synchrostar

xJianL520x wrote:

what is the result of yesterday matches??

Andrea wrote:

Results
Russia 5-2 Australia
Taiwan 5-2 United Kingdom
France 1-5 China
Argentina 0-5 Japan

There you go.
are you even trying
Vuelo Eluko
talala was monstrous vs australia, if everyone else on russia starts playing more like him they will get 1st place
also does my memory just suck or cr1m wasnt playing, is he DQ or just isnt showing up til semi/finals?...
Melt3dCheeze

Riince wrote:

talala was monstrous vs australia, if everyone else on russia starts playing more like him they will get 1st place
also does my memory just suck or cr1m wasnt playing, is he DQ or just isnt showing up til semi/finals?...
Studying apparently.
buny

Melt3dCheeze wrote:

Riince wrote:

talala was monstrous vs australia, if everyone else on russia starts playing more like him they will get 1st place
also does my memory just suck or cr1m wasnt playing, is he DQ or just isnt showing up til semi/finals?...
Studying apparently.
studying the weakness of every other country
Totoki

Riince wrote:

talala was monstrous vs australia, if everyone else on russia starts playing more like him they will get 1st place
also does my memory just suck or cr1m wasnt playing, is he DQ or just isnt showing up til semi/finals?...
well it's at quarterfinals and after when the higher ranked players starts to shine ;)
AmaiHachimitsu
uee
Stream's fucked, again.
I thought you were fixing this peppy?
Xayne

Minifrij wrote:

Stream's fucked, again.
I thought you were fixing this peppy?
He's fixing the fake breaks. A lagging twitch stream is a different issue entirely. Put the pitchfork down.
Synchrostar
jesus christ i was so nervous holy shit
tiebreaker was fun though
[-Cloud-]

silmarilen wrote:

Makan1 wrote:

I wonder if an Austria V Germany match is possible
only in the loser bracket because nl is going to wreck germany
I just wanted to quote this.
AmaiHachimitsu

[-Cloud-] wrote:

I just wanted to quote this.
I just wanted to remind you that none of these predictions are serious
xAsylum
This Austria vs Ukraine zzzzz Easy 5:0 for Austria like cmon... Ukraine only won by dcs...
[-Cloud-]

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

[-Cloud-] wrote:

I just wanted to quote this.
I just wanted to remind you that none of these predictions are serious
Thanks for clarifying. I'd never thought that.
AmaiHachimitsu
Few important things:


1. The notification about OWC in the menu. I would love it to be like last year, with flags of teams playing. It would totally drag the unaware people into watching.

2. Is there a possibility for the matches to be recorded WITH a chat? I think there is and I'd love to see it.

3. Loctav usually does it, but when he's not around I'd like somebody from the staff to post match mp links in the #owc. It's not always that one can watch the stream.
Xiyng
Question: What function does the loser bracket have? What does the winner win? The wiki doesn't quite seem to explain this.

Suggestion: Make the results available somewhere as soon as they're available. I don't have the faintest idea where to get the latest results without watching or waiting if I'm interested. Would make the whole thing seem more professional if results were easily available.
Omgforz
bratwurst vs schnitzel match next weekend

hype
xAsylum

Xiyng wrote:

What does the winner win? The wiki doesn't quite seem to explain this.
Yes sure it doesn't.

Morurc
GG Germany. If Netherlands can't win it all, then I'm rooting for you. <3
Yauxo

Omgforz wrote:

bratwurst vs schnitzel match next weekend

hype
Get hype
Aka

Torepin wrote:

This Austria vs Ukraine zzzzz Easy 5:0 for Austria like cmon... Ukraine only won by dcs...
please open the mp links and see that we did won NOT ONLY because of "dcs", thanks

gg austria, will be supporting them
Xayne
I can feel all of the freedoms in my freedom doing some serious freedoming.
Xiyng

Torepin wrote:

Xiyng wrote:

What does the winner win? The wiki doesn't quite seem to explain this.
Yes sure it doesn't.

Seemed an awful lot like a bronze medal fought for between the losers of the semifinals, which seems like isn't a thing now that I look at the page better. Thanks!

I'd still like to voice my opinion that it isn't very clear. I made a mistake I would imagine is quite common among people not following the OWC very carefully. It would be a relatively simple thing to fix, too.
Xayne

Xiyng wrote:

Torepin wrote:

Yes sure it doesn't.

Seemed an awful lot like a bronze medal fought for between the losers of the semifinals, which seems like isn't a thing now that I look at the page better. Thanks!

I'd still like to voice my opinion that it isn't very clear. I made a mistake I would imagine is quite common among people not following the OWC very carefully. It would be a relatively simple thing to fix, too.
What? There are even pictures. How that confuses you is beyond me.
Xiyng

Xayne wrote:

Xiyng wrote:

Seemed an awful lot like a bronze medal fought for between the losers of the semifinals, which seems like isn't a thing now that I look at the page better. Thanks!

I'd still like to voice my opinion that it isn't very clear. I made a mistake I would imagine is quite common among people not following the OWC very carefully. It would be a relatively simple thing to fix, too.
What? There are even pictures. How that confuses you is beyond me.
Duh, I just explained how. The bronze medal usually stands for the 3rd place and I had literally no idea it was connected to winning the loser bracket before Torepin said so (and actually Torepin didn't say so, so I'm still only guessing).
Xayne

Xiyng wrote:

Xayne wrote:

What? There are even pictures. How that confuses you is beyond me.
Duh, I just explained how. The bronze medal usually stands for the 3rd place and I had literally no idea it was connected to winning the loser bracket before Torepin said so (and actually Torepin didn't say so, so I'm still only guessing).
No...winning the loser's bracket would mean you got to the finals. That would be silver. Bronze would be the team that got beat in the loser's bracket final.

To clarify, Gold is the winner of the grand final (duh), Silver is the loser of the grand final (the game between the winner of the winner's bracket and the winner of the loser's bracket), and Bronze is the loser of the loser's bracket final.
Andrea
Results
Poland 5-2 South Korea
Germany 5-4 Netherlands
Ukraine 0-5 Austria
United States 5-4 Sweden

Posting already before someone asks about the results like always.

SapphireGhost best player in OWC so far.
Xayne




CLUTCH WIN BOYS!
zyvik_old

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

2. Is there a possibility for the matches to be recorded WITH a chat? I think there is and I'd love to see it.
There is sth called rechat for twtich(I'm not sure if I can post link - just google it). It allows you to see previous transmisions with chat - just keep in mind that logs of twitch chat can't be hold longer than 2 days (so you cant see chat from last week).
Arnold0
I really thought sweden could win, then this

Seeing he is top ~#150 whe two sweeden guys were top 100 this was impresive.
-JaZe-
SapphireGhost wtf

Also, Soba doing so much work for US. He deserves a medal
CodeS
SapphiGhost and Soba MVP's of this match.

That Tiebreaker omg.
Xayne
SG is going to get all of the hype from casual onlookers, and it's warranted, but Kitteh, Soba, and Xilver on the HR's locked it down. Massive team effort today. I'm fanboying hardcore and have zero fucks to give.
Novalogic
Makan1
Germany vs Austria : D

lelelel nl failed to shrek ger (but it was insanely close) like germany in lead, netherlands in lead, then germany just pulled it off in tiebreaker. good match.
gj to all players who performed on the big stage. hopefully we can see Austria triumph even more >:D
Te Amo
I want soba and sapphire to do sexual things with my body
Nathan

KevEz wrote:

I want soba and sapphire to do sexual things with my body
Record it for me pls
-Quiet-

Andrea wrote:

SapphireGhost best player in OWC so far.
Best score definitely yeah, but best player? Not really.
silmarilen
did we forget taku's warmup already?
Xayne

sukiNathan wrote:

KevEz wrote:

I want soba and sapphire to do sexual things with my body
Record it for me pls
I'll hold the camera.
Topic Starter
Loctav
Schedule is out. Keep in mind that colored matches are dependant on the Saturday's outcome. We just prescheduled all possible encounters.
Athrun
Since my favorite countries have ALL been wiped out, who do I go for now?
silmarilen
netherlands
Aka
japan again D:
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