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Amianki
Condense it and I'll consider it.
pieguyn
nope. burden of proof is on you. quick acting all stuck up when you're the one who just got fucked up the ass

besides I've already condensed it as much as I can

also why are you making requests to me when you think I'm scum?
Amianki
k, if you will not do it, then see if anyone else wants me to respond to something.

You know as well as I do that responding to walls will only create more walls and just completely stall out the game, so don't start getting a sore butthole that I won't respond to one.
Amianki
I wasn't aware I couldn't request scumreads to do things

guess I learned something today
Raging Bull
oh so this is how it feels when pie and I wall.


ugh let me see here

CB why didn't you vote navizel then? I find it unlikely that there will be you + 2 other people at the same time, voting at the same time, voting the exact same person at the same time, and lastly you needed 6 people to hammer. If you voted in the beginning before Dake voted, you will still need an additional 3 people to hammer.


bubbajack8 wrote:

Raging Bull wrote:

Also type I pray for Sanae at night to the mod Seriously.
Why?

Vote: Navi
to confirm me as town. You want that don't you?


With that being said, what your current scum read CB?
bubbajack8

pieguy1372 wrote:

@bubba: what are your thoughts on the interactions between me and Calingo?

@RB same question

I'm very confused what this "slip" is....

Raging Bull wrote:

bubbajack8 wrote:

Why?

Vote: Navi
to confirm me as town. You want that don't you?
Of course.
Raging Bull
Apparently CB said that Nav is guilty, but did not vote for him. Then he said that he wanted to see pieguy's reads(I think) before voting for Nav.
DakeDekaane
Why is Navizel still alive? Come on guys, be active pls :(
Raging Bull
eh good enough for me.

Vote:Nav

Also PM Mod I pray for Sanae. I wanna know what I can dooooo
DakeDekaane
I'll do it then.

inb4 RB explodes in a million of pieces.
Topic Starter
Sakura
"Yawn... what's up guys... oh nothing going on I guess"
[L-1] Navizel (5) - DakeDekaane, NoHitter, bubbajack8, fferyllt, Raging Bull
NoHitter (1) - Navizel

Not Voting - Sephibro, pieguy1372, fferyllt, CalignoBot

At deadline, the person with the highest ammount of votes is lynched, or if a person reaches 6 out of 10 votes.
Amianki

Raging Bull wrote:

a. CB why didn't you vote navizel then? I find it unlikely that there will be you + 2 other people at the same time, voting at the same time, voting the exact same person at the same time, and lastly you needed 6 people to hammer. If you voted in the beginning before Dake voted, you will still need an additional 3 people to hammer.


b. With that being said, what your current scum read CB?
a. I already told you. Momentum. People are more likely to hop on a wagon like that when it gets a bunch of votes without any sign of dissent.

b. pieguy + Navizel + ? (not Dake)

Not sure on the third yet.
fferyllt
Sephibro.
NoHitter
Well, since it turned into a plurality lynch, we might as well make use of the fact that Day ends with a lynch regardless of a hammer.

Let's scumhunt second scum with a secondary vote.

Re: Caligno
I can see RB's point and I do think it's suspicious.
If you did indeed think the momentum, why didn't you just say something along the lines of "Guys lets not rush this lynch though" after you commented on my result?
Amianki
Because seeing how I'm confronted about it is a good way to get information as well.
NoHitter

CalignoBot wrote:

Because seeing how I'm confronted about it is a good way to get information as well.
So you also anticipated being called up on the fact that you didn't react to it?
Sephibro
fferyllt.
Amianki

NoHitter wrote:

CalignoBot wrote:

Because seeing how I'm confronted about it is a good way to get information as well.
So you also anticipated being called up on the fact that you didn't react to it?
...Yeah? I was very interested in seeing what pieguy would say about it, since what I would fully expect scum to do is both try to pass not instavoting him as a scumtell and try to discount anything I have to say based on it.
Raging Bull
prod dodge

work.
Topic Starter
Sakura
Navizel has been prodded
DakeDekaane
First prod dodge ever, but there isn't anything I could think added to the stuff we have now, so idk what to say, unless you guys have questions.
Navizel
hi



wtf is this
fferyllt

Sephibro wrote:

fferyllt.
Is there something we need to talk about?
bubbajack8

NoHitter wrote:

Well, since it turned into a plurality lynch, we might as well make use of the fact that Day ends with a lynch regardless of a hammer.

Let's scumhunt second scum with a secondary vote.

Re: Caligno
I can see RB's point and I do think it's suspicious.
If you did indeed think the momentum, why didn't you just say something along the lines of "Guys lets not rush this lynch though" after you commented on my result?
What's this mean?

Why is Navi not dead?
NoHitter
For example:
Psedovote: Caligno
Topic Starter
Sakura
pieguy1372 has been prodded
Raging Bull
Cujrious if there is even any discussion left here.

Any reads Nav? Just curious.
Sephibro
vla
DakeDekaane
wtf rb
Navizel
nah

iirc already said my reads before
pieguyn
I really have nothing to say nor do I have enough time atm to do anything

I'll post my case on calingo later
NoHitter
I find Navizel's lack of interest at his own lynch to be very suspicious.
Navizel
Meh. Everyone voted me anyway
Navizel
almost*
Raging Bull
Post your reads navizel. You didnt at all.
DakeDekaane

NoHitter wrote:

I find Navizel's lack of interest at his own lynch to be very suspicious.
Looks like he already forfeited and he's just waiting for the hammer.

pls
DakeDekaane
As in, if he's a town Jailkeeper, he would've struggled more.
Navizel

Raging Bull wrote:

Cujrious if there is even any discussion left here.

Any reads Nav? Just curious.
Hmm. All I can see is bubba and Dake wanting me to die already D: and this

pieguy1372 wrote:

AFTER WE FINISH OWNING THE FUCK OUT OF NAVIZEL YOU'RE NEXT. PREPARE YER ASS BOY
Apparently pieguy is still not voting me if he thinks I'm scum
Raging Bull
Who do you think is scum and how many you think is most likely voting for you?

Same to nh btw since its 1v1
pieguyn
TL;DR CASE ON CALINGO

1. sat back and let the GIF lynch happen despite apparently having problems with a lot of my arguments. literally the only thing he said was "this is town pie" and then he backtracked on it later
2. wasn't paying any attention at all to NH's result. when pressured about it, started making a bunch of shit up to cover it up
3. is blatantly BS'ing at this point. apparently thinks a full scum dayvig in a 12p game is in some way balanced and that 3 rapid votes will lead to an instant hammer (which incidentally is smth he said when pressured about 2)
4. doesn't want another massive wall war to happen but is apparently ok with making a wall in order to throw suspicion at me
5. uses incorrect BOP arguments
6. response to my reach out was not town behavior. he's only interested in responding if he needs to. aka he'll only respond to save his own ass and for his own convenience, as opposed to working with me on my read on him

get fucked

everyone not named calingo give me opinions on this
Sephibro
still v/la on this game because it sucks
DakeDekaane

Raging Bull wrote:

Who do you think is scum and how many you think is most likely voting for you?

Same to nh btw since its 1v1
I really don't understand the purpose of this, since he's like obvscum.

pieguy, you'd know what I think, but you're missing something very important, and it isn't an argument.
DakeDekaane
Oops, I forgot, you made a stupid bet, thanks.
Raging Bull
Dake pls pm mod at night i pray for sanae :3
And there is a purpose
fferyllt
I will try to sort through your case later today, pieguy.

I don't think it will change my vote.
NoHitter
We cant vote anyone except me or Navizel anyway?

Also, I'm agreeing on pie's case on Caligno.
Navizel

DakeDekaane wrote:

Raging Bull wrote:

Who do you think is scum and how many you think is most likely voting for you?

Same to nh btw since its 1v1
I really don't understand the purpose of this, since he's like obvscum.

pieguy, you'd know what I think, but you're missing something very important, and it isn't an argument.
If he wants info then why not? It's better than someone who says "he's scum" every single post which is more suspicious if you'd ask me.
Navizel
Going to post more later
Navizel
pieguy's case makes sense

scum: Dake, NH, CB
null: Sephi
town: everyone else
DakeDekaane
Interesting, Sephi is like one of my strongest townreads along with NH. Don't you mind on explain your case on me?
Navizel

Navizel wrote:

If he wants info then why not? It's better than someone who says "he's scum" every single post which is more suspicious if you'd ask me.
NoHitter
Because I have a guilty result on my gunsmith and your character doesn't explai- Actually wait...

mod: does gladiator get detected by gunsmith?

That's the only other way.
Topic Starter
Sakura

NoHitter wrote:

mod: does gladiator get detected by gunsmith?
No
NoHitter
OK the concern was unneeded then.
NoHitter
Prod: everyone who can be prodded
fferyllt

NoHitter wrote:

Prod: everyone who can be prodded
What are you expecting to happen with the prod?

I think I can end the game day by using my double vote on Nav, but I don't think that's particularly useful atm. It removes VC data for analysis.
DakeDekaane
So we'll be stuck as this until the deadline, because no one wants to move a finger? cool.
Raging Bull
Honestly someone just hammer.
fferyllt
2nd VOTE: Nav
Topic Starter
Sakura
"Yawn... oh what, you already decided on removing Navizel from the game? that took, quite a while... oh well anyways Navizel... Navizel... where did I put that role card... oh here it is"
Navizel (6) - DakeDekaane, NoHitter, Navizel, fferyllt, Raging Bull, fferyllt [LYNCH]
NoHitter (1) - Navizel

Not Voting - Sephibro, pieguy1372, CalignoBot
As Navizel looks into the sky, snowflakes start to fall, signaling that her time had ended... for now


Navizel was Cirno and also was a Red Team Jailkeeper 1-Shot Gladiator

It is now Night 2, send all Actions and Prayers to me by PM within 24 hours.
Topic Starter
Sakura
The day opens...

Everyone is back to that one place...

Then realize something...

Looks like a little mouse... couldn't come




NoHitter was Nazrin Green Team Gunsmith and has dissapeared Night 2.

Not Voting - Everyone

With 8 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch

It is now Day 3 you got until 3/27 20:50 GMT-5 to Hammer.
Topic Starter
Sakura
Also i realized that bubbajack8 was due to a prod at the time the last Day phase ended, prodding him now.
DakeDekaane
Déjà vu
Sephibro
i claim doctor on nohitter tonight, but im still V/LA and i have to read d2
NoHitter
No more *ping*s for me :(
pieguyn
vote: Calingo
Sephibro
finally caught up d2
Sephibro
so, apparently i was roleblocked both d1 and d2
Sephibro
I see no reason not to fullclaim at this point
Sephibro
I'm Patchouli, and i mapped Remind
Sephibro
ok, I'm Patchouli, and I'm a Weak JOAT. The abilities i used so far are:

Moon Sign - Dusk: the deadline of day/night becomes exactly 24h from the moment i use the ability (used d1)
Sun Sign - Royal Flare: gives self watcher to the target - targeted person will know who targeted them that night (used on fferyllt n1)
Metal Sign - Iron Wall: blocks a single nightkill (used on NoHitter n2)

Also, I'm neighbor with pieguy
Raging Bull
What is weak modifier? I assume JOAT should be 1 shot for all already.
Raging Bull
or fuck it.

anyways, what do you have on CB?
Raging Bull
what do you have on CB, pieguy*
fferyllt

Raging Bull wrote:

What is weak modifier? I assume JOAT should be 1 shot for all already.
Weak modifier means that if he targets scum, he dies. Assuming the weak modifier works the same way as at MS.
Raging Bull
Reading at GiF dayvig shot, it looked like CB was calm. What's the reason for that anyways?

Navizel wrote:

inb4 cirno strongest mafia

/in

also found this rather amusing.
Amianki

Raging Bull wrote:

Reading at GiF dayvig shot, it looked like CB was calm. What's the reason for that anyways?
...What?
Raging Bull
I'm surprised you question what I wrote more than pieguy's vote on you.
Amianki
Don't deflect.
Raging Bull
My mistake, pieguy was going to vote you anyways.

Anyways I cannot deflect when your ISO says nothing about it besides "Nyquill never gets to play anymore wow"
Amianki
Yes, you did deflect. The amount or quality of content has nothing to do with it.

Also, I thought I generally gave the impression of being calm regardless of situation or alignment.
Raging Bull
Ok, I deflected.

True but you really looked like you completely did not care about the shot from GiF. I don't think yo even questioned it.
Amianki
All in all, not really. It would have been a good move had sephibro not been in the game and went full retard.
Sephibro
oh, i forgot to mention that i think someone softed roleblocker or something like that
Raging Bull
What about GiF's way of shooting without town consensus?
Amianki
That's why I believe it would have been a good idea.
Amianki
@RB
pieguyn

Raging Bull wrote:

what do you have on CB, pieguy*
no night result, just my case from yesterday


CalignoBot wrote:

Don't deflect.
says the guy who ignored my entire case on him even after I condensed it
bubbajack8
Nice scum kill.

Bubba what teh fuck are you talking about.

I couldn't read him.

And how long are the deadlines. I couldn't pray for Sanae, I didn't even know day ended ):
Topic Starter
Sakura

bubbajack8 wrote:

And how long are the deadlines.
Deadlines are 1 week long (End on the exact same day of the week and time it opens on the next week)
Raging Bull

bubbajack8 wrote:

And how long are the deadlines. I couldn't pray for Sanae, I didn't even know day ended ):
its fine, i did something else.

Vote:CB

I'm trusting pie on this one.
Raging Bull

Raging Bull wrote:

bubbajack8 wrote:

And how long are the deadlines. I couldn't pray for Sanae, I didn't even know day ended ):
its fine, i did something else.
The way the condition is for praying is too hard for me to fulfill so I don't care about pray for Sanae anymore. Currently feel good with pie and sephi as conf town. fferyllt can probably be PL in case of nearing lylo or mylo due to possible scum double voter, but highly doubt it.


@Dake, just saying, I think Navizel knew what I was doing. But I was trying to see if he can post his read and hopefully read his town reads since it may contain on of his scumbuddies.
DakeDekaane
That'd be too easy imo, but I see what you were thinking.

At this moment I'm leaning more for voting Caligno, unless he convinces me why I shouldn't vote him.
bubbajack8

Sakura wrote:

bubbajack8 wrote:

And how long are the deadlines.
Deadlines are 1 week long (End on the exact same day of the week and time it opens on the next week)
I meant for night. It looks like it's 24 hours long.

So why are we voting CB? Because Pie said so?
Raging Bull
Because pie said so and that it was suspicious of why CB recognizes Navizel as conf scum, but did not vote him. He wanted to wait until pieguys read were posted.
pieguyn
doge

Rb why are you sheeping me after newbie mafia
Raging Bull

Raging Bull wrote:

Because pie said so andthat it was suspicious of why CB recognizes Navizel as conf scum, but did not vote him. He wanted to wait until pieguys read were posted.
The scenario CB listed was so highly unlikely.
Amianki

Raging Bull wrote:

Because pie said so and that it was suspicious of why CB recognizes Navizel as conf scum, but did not vote him. He wanted to wait until pieguys read were posted.
um
fferyllt

CalignoBot wrote:

Raging Bull wrote:

Because pie said so and that it was suspicious of why CB recognizes Navizel as conf scum, but did not vote him. He wanted to wait until pieguys read were posted.
um
Um what?
Amianki
um as in um, you're pulling that out of your ass because that's not what happened at all.
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