pieguy
why would anyone believe you would be a 1-shot cop?
why would anyone believe you would be a 1-shot cop?
1. Just because we have a claimed guilty doesn't mean we should end the day immediately.pieguy1372 wrote:
1. why would that change anything? seems like you just forgot to vote your scum partner and had to make up some BS excuse to cover it
2. how'd you go from "this is town pie" on D1 to here? literally the only thing you said during my GIF push was "this is town pie". it was fencesitting at its finest and now you're backpedaling on it for no reason
1. that literally has nothing to do with my actual point. voting someone immediately != ending the day immediatelyCalignoBot wrote:
1. Just because we have a claimed guilty doesn't mean we should end the day immediately.
2. which reads make no sense? and you could have just asked me about my reads if you wanted to know more about them, but instead you claim they make "no sense" without explaining why. nice scumpainting attemptCalignoBot wrote:
2. Your attack on GIF looked really similar to how you attack as town, but look at how you've played D2 so far. Your reads make no sense. Your reason for sephibro being town makes no sense. Hell, your entire plan even makes no sense. The way you attacked GIF is closer to your town play, but when I look back at what you actually said, especially now with him flipping town, it makes a lot more sense from a scum perspective. The reason for attacking GIF is ridiculous, you deathtunneled on getting rid of a very strong town role, and now suddenly you have the game all figured out? It smells like shit.
it was a reaction test to see what Sephi would do in response to my cop "result". he followed along with it which is what I was looking for but at the same time he didn't actually vote bubba. I tried to pursue it a bit after his not-a-real-vote but he had already left so I couldn't get anything more from him.DakeDekaane wrote:
Also pieguy, explain your first pseudovote on bubba
do you really think i wouldn't abuse that if i were scum?DakeDekaane wrote:
btw, all the whining Sephi did D1 had town motivation, he can't be scum.
This still doesn't make sense. What should I know?fferyllt wrote:
Sephibro wrote:
fferyllt should know something btw
I should?
Flight delays and ahit. 1:30 am. Will check back in the morning.
Basically a GunsmithSephibro wrote:
oh btw what's your metal detector thing hitter
you should know who targeted you tonight other than mefferyllt wrote:
This still doesn't make sense. What should I know?
watDakeDekaane wrote:
I'm mindlessly sheeping NH because I support him
Vote: Navizel
Explain.NoHitter wrote:
Vote: Navizel
Hey guys! I detected metal on Navizel! *ping*
I'm also in a neighborhood, I also claimed my role. I also didn't die. I assumed neighbor hoods were town.pieguy1372 wrote:
ok, revealing my gambit cause I don't think Sephi is here anymore and I don't wanna let a fake guilty run any longer
town: me, ffery, Sephi
null-town: NH, RB
scum: Dake, Caligno, Navi
Sephi and I are a neighborhood. I fakeclaimed 1-shot cop to him in the QT and I didn't die. there's no one else in the neighborhood so I think that should be enough to call him town
ffery, NH, and RB are town. GIF told me he has a lot of experience with bubba and he had him as town. leaving {Dake, Caligno, Navi}
Caligno's response to my GIF push was to do absolutely nothing so I wanna go here first
pseudovote caligno
So you're saying Navi has a gun?NoHitter wrote:
Basically a GunsmithSephibro wrote:
oh btw what's your metal detector thing hitter
I haven't seen you do that so yeah, I firmly believe this.Sephibro wrote:
do you really think i wouldn't abuse that if i were scum?DakeDekaane wrote:
btw, all the whining Sephi did D1 had town motivation, he can't be scum.
You should be explaining what is this gun of yours, assuming NH is right.Navizel wrote:
watDakeDekaane wrote:
I'm mindlessly sheeping NH because I support him
Vote: Navizel
I thought you're supporting NH? Why the doubt now?DakeDekaane wrote:
I'm mindlessly sheeping NH because I support him
You should be explaining what is this gun of yours, assuming NH is right.
Really? You may want to re-think everything you're saying right now.Navizel wrote:
I'm just a mere Jailkeeper.
Yes.bubbajack8 wrote:
Really?Navizel wrote:
I'm just a mere Jailkeeper.
rightbubbajack8 wrote:
Hey Sephi replace out. GiF flipped green.
Mafiascum Wiki wrote:
Members of the Mafia (that are not Doctors), Cops, FBI Agents, Vigilantes, other Gunsmiths, Paranoid Gun Owners, etc. all have guns in traditional flavor. Notably, Serial Killers and Doctors do not have guns.
Hey Sephi don't replace out. Just when you got a townread from meSephibro wrote:
im still with you, bitches
you only got a report on bubba uh?NoHitter wrote:
Search Sign - Rare Metal Detector: CalignoBot
Search Sign - Rare Metal Detector: DakeDekaane
Search Sign - Rare Metal Detector: GuyInFreezer
Search Sign - Rare Metal Detector: Navizel
Search Sign - Rare Metal Detector: Nyquill
Search Sign - Rare Metal Detector: Raging Bull
Search Sign - Rare Metal Detector: Sephibro
Search Sign - Rare Metal Detector: Tanzklaue
Search Sign - Rare Metal Detector: bubbajack8
Search Sign - Rare Metal Detector: fferyllt
Search Sign - Rare Metal Detector: pieguy1372
Jailkeeper doesn't have guns so they can't be detected by a gunsmith.NoHitter wrote:
Mod: Is Jailkeeper among the roles that can be detected by Gunsmith?
IIRC jailkeeper don't have guns.Mafiascum Wiki wrote:
Members of the Mafia (that are not Doctors), Cops, FBI Agents, Vigilantes, other Gunsmiths, Paranoid Gun Owners, etc. all have guns in traditional flavor. Notably, Serial Killers and Doctors do not have guns.
I got told off by the mod that my powers didn't work like that, and I did something else.Sephibro wrote:
btw, of all theseyou only got a report on bubba uh?NoHitter wrote:
Search Sign - Rare Metal Detector: CalignoBot
Search Sign - Rare Metal Detector: DakeDekaane
Search Sign - Rare Metal Detector: GuyInFreezer
Search Sign - Rare Metal Detector: Navizel
Search Sign - Rare Metal Detector: Nyquill
Search Sign - Rare Metal Detector: Raging Bull
Search Sign - Rare Metal Detector: Sephibro
Search Sign - Rare Metal Detector: Tanzklaue
Search Sign - Rare Metal Detector: bubbajack8
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Search Sign - Rare Metal Detector: pieguy1372
The strongest one.NoHitter wrote:
Also Navizel, can you claim your character?
DakeDekaane wrote:
I smell Cirno. Bets pls.
Raging Bull wrote:
Also type "I pray for Sanae at night" to the mod Seriously.
Raging Bull wrote:
Also type "I pray for Sanae at night" to the mod Seriously.
Raging Bull wrote:
Also type "I pray for Sanae at night" to the mod Seriously.
Raging Bull wrote:
Also type "I pray for Sanae at night" to the mod Seriously.
Raging Bull wrote:
Also type "I pray for Sanae at night" to the mod Seriously.
Raging Bull wrote:
Also type "I pray for Sanae at night" to the mod Seriously.
Raging Bull wrote:
Also type "I pray for Sanae at night" to the mod Seriously.
Raging Bull wrote:
Also type "I pray for Sanae at night" to the mod Seriously.
give me fucking power. pls guys.Raging Bull wrote:
Also type "I pray for Sanae at night" to the mod Seriously.
Because you're Cirno and not some person like Nitori.Navizel wrote:
Explain.
Perhaps as a further reference in your future games, let's examine how I came to conclude you're scum.Navizel wrote:
Doesn't make sense.
Uhh so I PM the mod at Night: "I pray for Sanae"?Raging Bull wrote:
Also type I pray for Sanae at night to the mod Seriously.
Because I'm a jailkeeper with a 1-shot Gladiator.NoHitter wrote:
You then challenged me to a 1 on 1 fight which is a Gladiator's role even though you claimed Jailkeeper.
NoHitter wrote:
Uhh so I PM the mod at Night: "I pray for Sanae"?Raging Bull wrote:
Also type I pray for Sanae at night to the mod Seriously.
i dont understand how pieguy fkae claiming 1 shot cop matters. It was directed torwards Sephi.Navizel wrote:
Because I'm a jailkeeper with a 1-shot Gladiator.NoHitter wrote:
You then challenged me to a 1 on 1 fight which is a Gladiator's role even though you claimed Jailkeeper.
Afaik every player has two PR and pieguy fakeclaimed a 1-shot cop so it must be true.
I only have one power though.Navizel wrote:
He said he has a 1-shot executioner then he fakeclaimed a 1-shot cop so it is implied that a player can have two PRs.
They got a report on Navi.Sephibro wrote:
btw, of all theseyou only got a report on bubba uh?NoHitter wrote:
Search Sign - Rare Metal Detector: CalignoBot
Search Sign - Rare Metal Detector: DakeDekaane
Search Sign - Rare Metal Detector: GuyInFreezer
Search Sign - Rare Metal Detector: Navizel
Search Sign - Rare Metal Detector: Nyquill
Search Sign - Rare Metal Detector: Raging Bull
Search Sign - Rare Metal Detector: Sephibro
Search Sign - Rare Metal Detector: Tanzklaue
Search Sign - Rare Metal Detector: bubbajack8
Search Sign - Rare Metal Detector: fferyllt
Search Sign - Rare Metal Detector: pieguy1372
Why?Raging Bull wrote:
so apparently i got an ability. idk what it does yet. I need you guys to PM mod at night to say "I Pray for Sanae" so i can use it. so pls pls pls do it.
Also, if JK can't be detected with metal detector then its 1v1. We lynch Navizel and if it he flips town, then NH.
Also type I pray for Sanae at night to the mod Seriously.
Everything I said so far are true.NoHitter wrote:
I only have one power though.Navizel wrote:
He said he has a 1-shot executioner then he fakeclaimed a 1-shot cop so it is implied that a player can have two PRs.
You're still lying anyway.
That doesn't remove the fact you're scum.Navizel wrote:
Everything I said so far are true.
Okay. Here's the thing. This forum's wagons look to operate on momentum. This has been pretty much proven. What do you think would happen if three people instantly voted someone? Instant hammer. This also gives no information whatsoever on the wagon since it would literally just be whoever got there first. Someone stops the momentum and forces other shit to happen? Hammer gets delayed so this day isn't just a gangbang and nothing else. Scum also can't hide as easily.pieguy1372 wrote:
1. that literally has nothing to do with my actual point. voting someone immediately != ending the day immediatelyCalignoBot wrote:
1. Just because we have a claimed guilty doesn't mean we should end the day immediately.
on the other hand, since you said there was a claimed guilty, this means you knew there was a claimed guilty and didn't vote for it with only 2 votes on it. seems to me like you didn't think about it bc Navi is your partner
I'll go into this when I'm not lazy.pieguy1372 wrote:
2. which reads make no sense? and you could have just asked me about my reads if you wanted to know more about them, but instead you claim they make "no sense" without explaining why. nice scumpainting attemptCalignoBot wrote:
2. Your attack on GIF looked really similar to how you attack as town, but look at how you've played D2 so far. Your reads make no sense. Your reason for sephibro being town makes no sense. Hell, your entire plan even makes no sense. The way you attacked GIF is closer to your town play, but when I look back at what you actually said, especially now with him flipping town, it makes a lot more sense from a scum perspective. The reason for attacking GIF is ridiculous, you deathtunneled on getting rid of a very strong town role, and now suddenly you have the game all figured out? It smells like shit.
The entire bolded is completely irrelevant. The fact that he was town was a very small factor in what I actually said there. The fact that he had almost certainly the strongest town role in the game is the much bigger factor there. The rest is just trying to use false logic. It would be quite easy to fabricate an excuse to lynch him with that awkward kill, and you completely went apeshit the moment he claimed to be unlimited shot.pieguy1372 wrote:
bolded is a blatant misrep. your entire argument is essentially I deathtunneled on town and that makes me scum which is the same bullshit BOP angle scum tend to push on me to get me mislynched. remember stack the deck where you derailed a scum wagon onto a town one? there is no way you can think this is actually a scumtell given you know firsthand how likely it is for town to fuck up. not only that, but I started deathtunneling BEFORE GIF CLAIMED FULL DAYVIG. your argument that I was deathtunneling to "get rid of a very strong town role" is thus complete BS
Do explain.pieguy1372 wrote:
none of this explains your massive fencesit either
Okay. Here's the thing. This forum's wagons look to operate on momentum. This has been pretty much proven. What do you think would happen if three people instantly voted someone? Instant hammer. This also gives no information whatsoever on the wagon since it would literally just be whoever got there first. Someone stops the momentum and forces other shit to happen? Hammer gets delayed so this day isn't just a gangbang and nothing else. Scum also can't hide as easily.pieguy1372 wrote:
1. that literally has nothing to do with my actual point. voting someone immediately != ending the day immediatelyCalignoBot wrote:
1. Just because we have a claimed guilty doesn't mean we should end the day immediately.
on the other hand, since you said there was a claimed guilty, this means you knew there was a claimed guilty and didn't vote for it with only 2 votes on it. seems to me like you didn't think about it bc Navi is your partner
I'll go into this when I'm not lazy.pieguy1372 wrote:
2. which reads make no sense? and you could have just asked me about my reads if you wanted to know more about them, but instead you claim they make "no sense" without explaining why. nice scumpainting attemptCalignoBot wrote:
2. Your attack on GIF looked really similar to how you attack as town, but look at how you've played D2 so far. Your reads make no sense. Your reason for sephibro being town makes no sense. Hell, your entire plan even makes no sense. The way you attacked GIF is closer to your town play, but when I look back at what you actually said, especially now with him flipping town, it makes a lot more sense from a scum perspective. The reason for attacking GIF is ridiculous, you deathtunneled on getting rid of a very strong town role, and now suddenly you have the game all figured out? It smells like shit.
No. Here's why it's bad: You said you were a one-shot cop and claimed your target on top of it. Nothing about any response is alignment-indicative. At all. After what the general consensus about you was after D1, no one would be surprised if you died. Regardless of whether you bluff your target or not, not killing you wouldn't mean shit. This is especially true if they have a way of fucking with cop results.pieguy1372 wrote:
my read on Sephi makes perfect sense. if he was scum he was obviously rolefishing, but when I claimed PR he didn't do anything about it. they wouldn't go for Tanz over me with the knowledge that I have a 1-shot cop. (if you srsly think it makes no sense, I do have another ability on top of the execute, but there is no point in claiming it)
I'll believe it when I see it.pieguy1372 wrote:
as for the plan, I would never do this without some sort of backup plan. I don't wanna elaborate exactly what, but there was a real chance of me getting up to 2 scum off this gambit
The entire bolded is completely irrelevant. The fact that he was town was a very small factor in what I actually said there. The fact that he had almost certainly the strongest town role in the game is the much bigger factor there. The rest is just trying to use false logic. It would be quite easy to fabricate an excuse to lynch him with that awkward kill, and you completely went apeshit the moment he claimed to be unlimited shot.pieguy1372 wrote:
bolded is a blatant misrep. your entire argument is essentially I deathtunneled on town and that makes me scum which is the same bullshit BOP angle scum tend to push on me to get me mislynched. remember stack the deck where you derailed a scum wagon onto a town one? there is no way you can think this is actually a scumtell given you know firsthand how likely it is for town to fuck up. not only that, but I started deathtunneling BEFORE GIF CLAIMED FULL DAYVIG. your argument that I was deathtunneling to "get rid of a very strong town role" is thus complete BS
Do explain.pieguy1372 wrote:
none of this explains your massive fencesit either
No. Should I have?Sephibro wrote:
so fferyllt, didn't you receive any report from last night?
having 3 rapid votes in no way means an instant hammer. plus there is literally no information to be gained at all from a wagon on a guilty. scum can be literally anywhere on or off the wagon given the target is practically confirmed scumCalignoBot wrote:
Okay. Here's the thing. This forum's wagons look to operate on momentum. This has been pretty much proven. What do you think would happen if three people instantly voted someone? Instant hammer. This also gives no information whatsoever on the wagon since it would literally just be whoever got there first. Someone stops the momentum and forces other shit to happen? Hammer gets delayed so this day isn't just a gangbang and nothing else. Scum also can't hide as easily.
The second paragraph doesn't even make sense.
THAT'S EXACTLY THE POINTCalignoBot wrote:
No. Here's why it's bad: You said you were a one-shot cop and claimed your target on top of it. Nothing about any response is alignment-indicative. At all. After what the general consensus about you was after D1, no one would be surprised if you died. Regardless of whether you bluff your target or not, not killing you wouldn't mean shit. This is especially true if they have a way of fucking with cop results.
your argument is that I was trying to get rid of the strongest town role. this implies that, when I started tunneling him, I knew he had the strongest role. WHICH IS IMPOSSIBLE BC HE HAD ONLY CLAIMED 1-SHOT DAYVIG AT THAT POINTCalignoBot wrote:
The fact that he had almost certainly the strongest town role in the game is the much bigger factor there. The rest is just trying to use false logic. It would be quite easy to fabricate an excuse to lynch him with that awkward kill, and you completely went apeshit the moment he claimed to be unlimited shot.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLCalignoBot wrote:
BTW, your argument for him having to be scum doesn't even work because in order for him to be able to use his shots, he has to basically work with town in order to use his shots. No competent town in their right mind would let him do otherwise.
CalignoBot wrote:
Do explain.
This is town pie.^ THIS IS LITERALLY THE ONLY THING YOU POSTED DURING THE WHOLE ENTIRE GIF PUSH. YOU OFFERED NO STANCES ON ANYTHING WHATSOEVER. YOU JUST SAT BACK AND LET IT HAPPEN. AND NOW IT MEANS EVEN LESS BECAUSE YOU BACKTRACKED ON IT FOR NO REASON AT ALL. NOT TO MENTION YOU WENT BACK AND STARTED CRITICIZING MY ARGUMENTS AFTER GIF'S FLIP. YOU OBVIOUSLY HAD SOMETHING TO SAY, BUT INSTEAD OF SAYING IT WHEN IT WAS ACTUALLY RELEVANT, YOU PROCEEDED TO SIT THERE AND LET EVERYTHING HAPPEN.
to confirm me as town. You want that don't you?bubbajack8 wrote:
Why?Raging Bull wrote:
Also type I pray for Sanae at night to the mod Seriously.
Vote: Navi
pieguy1372 wrote:
@bubba: what are your thoughts on the interactions between me and Calingo?
@RB same question
Of course.Raging Bull wrote:
to confirm me as town. You want that don't you?bubbajack8 wrote:
Why?
Vote: Navi
a. I already told you. Momentum. People are more likely to hop on a wagon like that when it gets a bunch of votes without any sign of dissent.Raging Bull wrote:
a. CB why didn't you vote navizel then? I find it unlikely that there will be you + 2 other people at the same time, voting at the same time, voting the exact same person at the same time, and lastly you needed 6 people to hammer. If you voted in the beginning before Dake voted, you will still need an additional 3 people to hammer.
b. With that being said, what your current scum read CB?