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Yuzeyun

MMzz wrote:

Oni-
00:54:317 (106) - Here you should really follow the strong 3/4 kicks, they stand out in the music and are a hell of a lot more interesting than the same beat you've been doing. Pic: http://puu.sh/4YLGq.jpg You should do this every time it happens in the kiai, so you are following the music properly. Other combinations to keep things interesting: http://puu.sh/4YLJD.jpg http://puu.sh/4YLKm.jpg I would rather keep things simple, there. If I mapped the whole set to a 146 BPM, I would have made things like these two, but instead I have percieved 73 BPM. The kiai is quite an exception to the perception so I might allow myself one or two of those, but nothing more.
01:21:646 - d here? the kick is here and should be followed. Applied.
Moved to OD5 btw but I won't go higher than this :V

http://puu.sh/4ZiWW.zip
(lu you will love this filename)
Mismagius

[Luanny] wrote:

I REALLY appreciate that you took your time to check through 6 diffs. Most modders are too lazy for this, but please, try to understand what the mapper wants to achieve!
If I wanted a map with pure spacing I WOULD DO. If I wanted pure stream madness, that would be stupid, but I WOULD DO.
I wanted a jumpy and slow map and I did. I wanted the sb and I made it. I wanted the skin and I added it. I wanted jumps and I placed them.

Wrong blankets are mistakes
Wrong settings, wrong volume, wrong file sizes are mistakes
Lack of nc is a mistake, too much nc is a mistake
Overmap is sometimes a mistake
Note placement is NEVER a mistake as retarded as it plays. If the mapper did, they had a reason e wouldn't do it just for doing unless it is pretty clear this shouldn't be there. The reason can be "lets make a retarded map" or "lets place random notes everywhere" this is BAD but it is their reason! I'm not saying that's what I wanted but opinions are opinions.
Cmon you won't find consistent stuff here, everything is broken in a way. Do you REALLY think they were mistakes?
Both mappers on this collab are not beginners and we know what we do pretty well.

Once you understand mapper's intention (or at least try) I think your mods will take LESS TIME to write and will most likely be accepted
If I wanted your vision on mapping I would ask you or would ask you for a guest diff, but I didn't. I asked for a mod instead, not what you understand from the song or what YOU consider being right.
I asked you for suggestions on MY MAP. Polishment. I don't know, maybe if the settings are wrong, maybe I have some unused greenlines, maybe some stacks were wrong, maybe I broke the flow horribly because of a misplaced ctrl g, the options are infinite and yet you wrote your mod and I couldn't take anything useful from it.
You could just delete the whole thing you wrote and say "remap the whole diff" and would count the same way.

I REALLY feel offended by your words. Another mapper is involved and you're also offending them.
Saying someone's work is random, senseless or whatever IS NOT THE WAY TO GO, really.
If you don't like the map, that's ok, that's just your opinion and we can keep it nice as long as you don't force your style over mine and I don't force mine over you.

Again, thank you for your mod.

La Cataline wrote:

ouch
-Kazu-

[Luanny] wrote:

I REALLY appreciate that you took your time to check through 6 diffs. Most modders are too lazy for this, but please, try to understand what the mapper wants to achieve!
If I wanted a map with pure spacing I WOULD DO. If I wanted pure stream madness, that would be stupid, but I WOULD DO.
I wanted a jumpy and slow map and I did. I wanted the sb and I made it. I wanted the skin and I added it. I wanted jumps and I placed them.

Wrong blankets are mistakes
Wrong settings, wrong volume, wrong file sizes are mistakes
Lack of nc is a mistake, too much nc is a mistake
Overmap is sometimes a mistake
Note placement is NEVER a mistake as retarded as it plays. If the mapper did, they had a reason e wouldn't do it just for doing unless it is pretty clear this shouldn't be there. The reason can be "lets make a retarded map" or "lets place random notes everywhere" this is BAD but it is their reason! I'm not saying that's what I wanted but opinions are opinions.
Cmon you won't find consistent stuff here, everything is broken in a way. Do you REALLY think they were mistakes?
Both mappers on this collab are not beginners and we know what we do pretty well.

Once you understand mapper's intention (or at least try) I think your mods will take LESS TIME to write and will most likely be accepted
If I wanted your vision on mapping I would ask you or would ask you for a guest diff, but I didn't. I asked for a mod instead, not what you understand from the song or what YOU consider being right.
I asked you for suggestions on MY MAP. Polishment. I don't know, maybe if the settings are wrong, maybe I have some unused greenlines, maybe some stacks were wrong, maybe I broke the flow horribly because of a misplaced ctrl g, the options are infinite and yet you wrote your mod and I couldn't take anything useful from it.
You could just delete the whole thing you wrote and say "remap the whole diff" and would count the same way.

I REALLY feel offended by your words. Another mapper is involved and you're also offending them.
Saying someone's work is random, senseless or whatever IS NOT THE WAY TO GO, really.
If you don't like the map, that's ok, that's just your opinion and we can keep it nice as long as you don't force your style over mine and I don't force mine over you.
I was really touched by these words, since i have " a different way of mapping" and everyone are like " omg this sounds awful remap everything" when i feel it sounds totally coherent to the song :p
Anyways i will use this space to a incoming mod for Gezo's Taikos :3
Also, you won 3 stars for saying that Luanny :3 lol

EDIT: I'm not a skilled standard player, but i really enjoyed playing your Insane, so go ahead ranking this please.
EDIT 2: Well here is my mod
Before this,i want to point two things.
-What about modifying the Storyboard for Taiko diffs, making them visible? I know this doesnt affect gameplay but will seem better without all those words behind the playfield.
- Change hitsounds to Normal. Also if you want to make it sound smoother, reduce volume to 80%

OniZoda
-00:14:660 (5) - this note shoudnt be there IMO, maybe remove it
00:15:276 (6) - maybe you can remove this too, for the swing :p
00:17:948 (14) - remove,too
00:19:283 - maybe add d
00:21:441 (27,28,29,30,31) - d k d d k (?
00:24:523 (39) - delete
00:26:269 - (subjetive, totally optional) add k
00:31:715 (63,64,65,66,67,68) - d d k ddd k d to make it coherent with 00:18:564 (16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23) - . (why? because as an easy oni, maybe making repetitive patterns will make it little easier and also the pattern isn't that easy, so it becomes fun -imo- )
00:39:523 - ~ 00:52:674 - this section sounds better this way: http://puu.sh/50gds.jpg
01:05:208 (144,145) - ddd
01:08:701 (156) - move to 01:08:495 -
01:18:872 - (subjetive, totally optional) add k
01:30:893 (230) - maybe remove this note.
I know this is a easy diff, so i did my best to dont make it harder :p

MuzuZoda
- 00:21:852 (17) - move to 00:22:057 -
00:39:523 - ~ 00:52:674 - this section do something like i did in oni please ( I mean, putting kats in offbeats)
00:56:372 (61) - move to 00:56:578 -
01:12:194 - add k
01:24:317 (112) - move to 01:24:523 -
I focused on give this diff a little more swing in how the patterns are, mainly because here i dont have a lot of things i should point.

Both diffs are great, and makes me feel double depressed by the song :p
Good job Gezo :3
Dainesl
Random Taiko Mod...yaaaaaay

General

um...AIMod is freaking out and saying that Reverse Arrow's dimensions must be 128 x 128

also apparently Epilepsy warning is not allowed in taiko but w/e

Muzu

00:39:523 (50) - maybe from here until 00:52:674 (54) - you could add a few notes

00:55:550 - Add note?

00:57:194 - ^

01:06:235 - ^

01:08:701 - ^

01:25:139 - ^

wow muzu has way too few notes, make it at least 160 or something 'cause it seems kinda like a hard futsuu

Oni

00:20:208 - Add note?

00:29:043 - ^

00:39:523 (91) - again, from here until 00:52:674 - you need to add notes ;w; maybe follow the echo-ish noise?

00:55:550 - add note?

these diffs seem too easy but they're nice :D
Topic Starter
[Luanny]
fun how I got 4 stars already because of my wall of text lol
thank you :3

Dainels: IKR AIMOD IS DERP AAA kill it with fire pls.
and uh dunno about the warning

Gezo: UPD8ED
Yuzeyun
so far I only accepted one suggestion...

Dainesl wrote:

00:29:043 - ^ moved the next instead.
Talking to everyone who would pass by:

all the others
are like I don't want to move anything or add anything as the main point of the map is not to follow a sequence of everything, but only to prove that easier and even easiest onis can stand a chance. My map was made easy on purpose, and as I have perceived this song as 73 BPM (against 146 for others), I think this was the best occasion to make it easy. Maybe the calmest part is jarring to people, but as it's almost blank (I don't want to map to anything I can hear else mess.) it was done in the nicest manner.
I have made an exception to the kiai as it was something more peppy, but all others would end up having the same question: Why add notes when fewer can give the same effect? If you want me to add more notes, convince me. Otherwise, there's not much I can understand. The whole mapset has deliberately been made easier than at least 95% of ranked taiko mapsets. I'm thinking about music fitting more than I think about difficulty.

http://puu.sh/4ZuOl.zip
Topic Starter
[Luanny]
I agree with Gezo here, js
Yuzeyun

-Anhedonia- wrote:

OniZoda
-00:14:660 (5) - this note shoudnt be there IMO, maybe remove it yep. it should remove some tension.
00:15:276 (6) - maybe you can remove this too, for the swing :p why not lol
00:17:948 (14) - remove,too even though it's a nice one, I'd rather leave that one as ddd.
00:19:283 - maybe add d Here, I'd rather not play with 1/4 much. It would be okay if it started a part or alone but inside this... would be a bit too hard.
00:21:441 (27,28,29,30,31) - d k d d k (? Not following the lyrics there, sorry!
00:24:523 (39) - delete finally I would.
00:26:269 - (subjetive, totally optional) add k Same as above, it's closing so it's as hard as in the middle.
00:31:715 (63,64,65,66,67,68) - d d k ddd k d to make it coherent with 00:18:564 (16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23) - . (why? because as an easy oni, maybe making repetitive patterns will make it little easier and also the pattern isn't that easy, so it becomes fun -imo- ) as it would be inside a 1/2, I only added the 1/2 d one. I think this would impact the same way as your suggestion.
00:39:523 - ~ 00:52:674 - this section sounds better this way: http://puu.sh/50gds.jpg I said it a lot of times already. I leave this as don as it's quite low-pitched, calm, 427, eight, and all kats would make it a bit catalinastrophic not what I want, see
01:05:208 (144,145) - ddd I would rather leave this as it is. Same reason. I told you it would be hard convincing me to put 1/4s.
01:08:701 (156) - move to 01:08:495 - ok
01:18:872 - (subjetive, totally optional) add k Same as ab---déjà vu ?
01:30:893 (230) - maybe remove this note. Suuuuuuure.
I know this is a easy diff, so i did my best to dont make it harder :p You almost did it yourself ;_;

MuzuZoda
- 00:21:852 (17) - move to 00:22:057 - I have been thinkgin about this. I think it would be better leaving as it is.
00:39:523 - ~ 00:52:674 - this section do something like i did in oni please ( I mean, putting kats in offbeats) Same as in oni. Calm stay calm. I wanted to make a consistency with the break time in standard diffs.
00:56:372 (61) - move to 00:56:578 - Same as 1.
01:12:194 - add k Added.
01:24:317 (112) - move to 01:24:523 - Nah, I wouldn't want this again.
I focused on give this diff a little more swing in how the patterns are, mainly because here i dont have a lot of things i should point.

Both diffs are great, and makes me feel double depressed by the song :p ARE YOU INSINUATING MY DIFFS ARE DEPRESSING.
Good job Gezo :3
idiot y u no make new post
http://puu.sh/50nbe.zip
Topic Starter
[Luanny]
updated
let's get this done

moved the storyboard for standard diffs and taiko stays with background only
BounceBabe
Then don't post into my queue if you can't deal with things. I wasn't offending you was. I only tried to help and when you don't want it, leave it.
-Kazu-

BounceBabe wrote:

Then don't post into my queue if you can't deal with things. I wasn't offending you was. I only tried to help and when you don't want it, leave it.
You need to know the fact that osu has a wide variety of styles, so you can't think you are the only one who do it perfect.
Topic Starter
[Luanny]
my thoughts, Kazuki
MMzz
Looks good, here you go!
Topic Starter
[Luanny]
yeey
Topic Starter
[Luanny]

I hate you.
Mezzaten
Chitãozinho and Chororó best brazillian DJs
pls release new EP
grumd
Moved couple of sliders in the hardest diff, renamed Experienced to Advanced, changed sampleset in taiko to 70% Normal, changed approachcircle.png

Ranked!
-Kazu-
Gratz Luanny and Gezo :D
Topic Starter
[Luanny]
and BD and Kyshiro \:D/
ty grumd <3
Heanday
Nice, gratz ! :°
Kyouren
Gratzz!!! _Gezo_, Kyshiro, Blue Dragon, and [Luanny]!!

MITISS!!!!!!!!!!!
Topic Starter
[Luanny]
EIGHT!
Yuzeyun
seventy EIGHT
Dainesl
Grats Luanny! :D

8th rank lel

also there's 8 diffs in the mapset...coincidence?
Topic Starter
[Luanny]

Dainesl wrote:

Grats Luanny! :D

8th rank lel

also there's 8 diffs in the mapset...coincidence?
...LOL totally not intentional
Ash Cat
CONgratzz
P o M u T a
great!
FrzR
Congrats. :D
Lally
waaah *D* gratz <3
Faust
Fuck yeah, this map delivers. (Pun unintentional)
Zexous
Oh I did not realize this got ranked
Grats lu :)
aDiclonius
kinda sad to see there is apparently no mapper who puts more effort into his work to atleast map the whole song and not just a quarter of it, but yeah the structure of the mapping is extremly well done ...
Topic Starter
[Luanny]
no effort?
REALLY?
please read the description
Mapping Suicide Note took longer to map than it would take to map the whole song
Go map the whole song, collabing note by note with someone and then show how you made a better work spending weeks to finish it!
By what I have seen, your version is far from it. Really far.

Don't say I didn't put effort on this because I probably put more effort than you will ever put in your version.
Go on and finish your map, make it full version if that's so important, it still won't be as good as this "effortless quarter of a song".

You can say ANYTHING. You can say you don't like the map for this reason or that reason, you can rate 1, you can start a shitstorm and tell everyone how shit the map is if you want.
But don't EVER come to one of my threads to say I don't put effort on my maps again. Instead, try to do better. Consider this a challenge.
Konei

[Luanny] wrote:

no effort?
REALLY?
please read the description
I lol'd hard.
Mismagius

aDiclonius wrote:

kinda sad to see there is apparently no mapper who puts more effort into his work to atleast map the whole song and not just a quarter of it, but yeah the structure of the mapping is extremly well done ...
kinda sad to see there are apparently no people who knows how to read a description..
Stefan

aDiclonius wrote:

kinda sad to see there is apparently no mapper who puts more effort into his work to atleast map the whole song and not just a quarter of it, but yeah the structure of the mapping is extremly well done ...
Oh mann, warum immer wir..
aDiclonius

Blue Dragon wrote:

aDiclonius wrote:

kinda sad to see there is apparently no mapper who puts more effort into his work to atleast map the whole song and not just a quarter of it, but yeah the structure of the mapping is extremly well done ...
kinda sad to see there are apparently no people who knows how to read a description..
and what does it say? "its looped", hey its called music, its everything looped, since its not like 90% of all osu maps have copy pasted parts of patterns in it... also saying its "to hard" to map is no point either
aDiclonius

[Luanny] wrote:

no effort?
REALLY?
please read the description
Mapping Suicide Note took longer to map than it would take to map the whole song
Go map the whole song, collabing note by note with someone and then show how you made a better work spending weeks to finish it!
By what I have seen, your version is far from it. Really far.

Don't say I didn't put effort on this because I probably put more effort than you will ever put in your version.
Go on and finish your map, make it full version if that's so important, it still won't be as good as this "effortless quarter of a song".

You can say ANYTHING. You can say you don't like the map for this reason or that reason, you can rate 1, you can start a shitstorm and tell everyone how shit the map is if you want.
But don't EVER come to one of my threads to say I don't put effort on my maps again. Instead, try to do better. Consider this a challenge.

the osu community is really the most unfriendly of all...

its from my point of view just no argument to say "its looped" since over 99% of all music pieces are looped. Futhermore in generel not full maped songs dont even have a shot to get ranked, because bats say "you have to map the full, or its not rankable". And still i dont see the point of effort in it, if you compere it to others work (not mine), which never got ranked. I just see you going together with others aggresive on me without trying to talk normal. like it said, its not like i want to talk you map bad, i also gave it full stars, but still im feeling uncomfortable to the point that this is not a song maped since its not even 2 mins maped, while the original piece is nearly 5 mins long.
Mismagius
I don't think you can understand this was a 1-note collab that took weeks to be finished. Please, learn how to read the description. Also, learn to read Lu's post. If you feel like that, we don't really care.
aDiclonius

[Luanny] wrote:

. Instead, try to do better. Consider this a challenge.
btw, pls never argue this way ever in your life again...
aDiclonius

Blue Dragon wrote:

I don't think you can understand this was a 1-note collab that took weeks to be finished. Please, learn how to read the description. Also, learn to read Lu's post. If you feel like that, we don't really care.
you should stop being a dickhead considering people can have a differnent oppinion the you...
Mismagius
I can see you're not even trying to understand that mapping a 1-note collab in a 3-4 min song is pretty hard. She's right, do it better then come here to talk we did not put effort. Also, stop doubleposting.
Secretpipe
Gratz :D/
Topic Starter
[Luanny]
yeah, I really want to see this guy trying to get his FULL LENGTH VERSION ranked
haha
pls go back to school...
learn to read.
Yuzeyun

aDiclonius wrote:

because bats say "you have to map the full, or its not rankable".
I've never seen one say such a thing. Stop generalizing. /topic

Blue Dragon wrote:

I can see you're not even trying to understand that mapping a 1-note collab in a 3-4 min song is pretty hard. She's right, do it better then come here to talk we did not put effort. Also, stop doubleposting.
more like a torture to finish *cough*
Stefan

aDiclonius wrote:

Blue Dragon wrote:

I don't think you can understand this was a 1-note collab that took weeks to be finished. Please, learn how to read the description. Also, learn to read Lu's post. If you feel like that, we don't really care.
you should stop being a dickhead considering people can have a differnent oppinion the you...
Die Tatsache, dass so eine Collab ewig lang braucht, kann einfach nicht als "Faulheit" bezeichnet werden. Du nennst das faul, weil sie " nur einen Teil des Liedes " gemappt hat, aber ausdrücklich erwähnt wird, dass das Original unmapbare Parts hat. Was bedeuten kann, dass dann die Qualität darunter leiden kann. Außerdem hast du - laut deiner Aussage - nicht die leiseste Ahnung wie viel Arbeit in die Map reingesteckt wurde. Nicht nur die Map zu mappen, aber auch sich die Zeit nehmen, auf die Mods einzugehen, Modder zu suchen und nach Testplays zu fragen. Aber dies musste man sowieso vielen übel nehmen, deswegen belasse ich es hier mal.

Außerdem, wenn du meinst, dass die Community unfreundlich ist, dann geh einfach ohne was zu sagen. Wenn du meinst, dass eine Community deswegen unfreundlich ist, nur weil du der einzige Mensch weit und breit bist, der diese Meinung vertritt, während alle anderen sich einig sind, dann schön. Ohne beleidigung zu wirken, stimme ich BD zu, dass du wirklich (noch) keine Ahnung hast, wie viel Mühe/Zeit in die Map reingesteckt wurde um sie rankbar zu machen.

For translation pm me, My english Is just bad for long posts.
Zare
^ tl; dr:

you're stupid, pls learn how mapping and modding works before trying to judge other's works.

2nd part is pretty much "go away"
Topic Starter
[Luanny]
I was already going to copy paste to google translator heh
no more drama pls
aDiclonius

[Luanny] wrote:

I was already going to copy paste to google translator heh
no more drama pls
its not even drama, since you would need 2 sides for that. i just posted some valid points of my opion and get hates and insults as result. dont even get why people take stuff like this so personal. dont know if this kid behaivor is just internet like, or just a lot of osu peole cant deal with regular discusions.

"Hey, you are so awesome and your beatmap is the best on earth that ever happend, love you so much"
i guess thats what a forum was made for and is only accepted
Mismagius

aDiclonius wrote:

i just posted some valid points of my opion and get hates and insults as result.
Okay then:

Blue Dragon wrote:

I don't think you can understand this was a 1-note collab that took weeks to be finished.

[Luanny] wrote:

Mapping Suicide Note took longer to map than it would take to map the whole song
Go map the whole song, collabing note by note with someone and then show how you made a better work spending weeks to finish it!
By what I have seen, your version is far from it. Really far.

Don't say I didn't put effort on this because I probably put more effort than you will ever put in your version.
Go on and finish your map, make it full version if that's so important, it still won't be as good as this "effortless quarter of a song".

You can say ANYTHING. You can say you don't like the map for this reason or that reason, you can rate 1, you can start a shitstorm and tell everyone how shit the map is if you want.
But don't EVER come to one of my threads to say I don't put effort on my maps again. Instead, try to do better. Consider this a challenge.

Blue Dragon wrote:

I can see you're not even trying to understand that mapping a 1-note collab in a 3-4 min song is pretty hard. She's right, do it better then come here to talk we did not put effort. Also, stop doubleposting.

aDiclonius wrote:

you should stop being a dickhead

aDiclonius wrote:

the osu community is really the most unfriendly of all...

Okay then.

Not even worth continuing.
dkun
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