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Atsuki Watanabe - Dry Martini

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Shulin
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Shulin
Easy:

00:50:001 (1) - New combo - to keep with the 3 color pattern you set earlier.
00:57:064 (4) - I think this sounds better extended to the white tick, but its not essential.


LoogieStyle:

00:19:020 (6) - Right one square.
00:39:078 (12) - Finish?
00:48:051 (4) - I don't like the way this slider ends on a silent note, puts of the the rhythm imo, I also don't think there's a good reason for it.
00:52:060 (8) - ^ But for this beat.
01:15:090 (3) - Left one.

Normal

Nice :D

Expert:

No problems!

That's all, well mapped, star!
Gens
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Gens
Waiting for Loogie's changes.
anonymous_old
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Here since the beginning
anonymous_old
SPOILER
LoogieStyle:

00:19:020 (6) - Right one square. Fixed
00:39:078 (12) - Finish? Fixed
00:48:051 (4) - I don't like the way this slider ends on a silent note, puts of the the rhythm imo, I also don't think there's a good reason for it. It's softer than normal now, but it's not silent anymore.
00:52:060 (8) - ^ But for this beat. Normal volume
01:15:090 (3) - Left one.Fixed
Download: Atsuki Watanabe - Dry Martini (Gens) [LoogieStyle].osu
Teara
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Teara
[Beginner]

00:36:065 (2,4) - For me these two sound better if they end on a the White tick.

Maybe a tiny bit too hard for an easy difficulty, but not that hard, and amazingly, I didn't fall asleep.

Nice~

[LoogieStyle]

00:39:092 (12,1) - Kinda a heavy jump, compared to the rest to the map, maybe tune it down a tiny bit? It was unexpected.

00:55:020 (6) - Move to blue tick on the left, and place another hit circle with whistle on the blue tick on the right (1/4)

Also no major error's spotted, a good solid beatmap :)

[Normal

Some hard jumps for a normal :|

Other then that no problems found.

[Expert]

I need moar! Tis Perfect Sire!
anonymous_old
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Here since the beginning
anonymous_old
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.

Download: Atsuki Watanabe - Dry Martini (Gens) [LoogieStyle].osu
anonymous_old
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Here since the beginning
anonymous_old
REDO. download this, not that. @.@Download: Atsuki Watanabe - Dry Martini (Gens) [LoogieStyle].osu
Gens
osu! Alumni
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Gens
I agree that maybe it's a bit hard for intermediate/beginner players, I will try to avoid that in the future. :(
Gens
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Gens
Giving a more detailed look to Loogie's difficulty.

[LoogieStyle]

00:18:011 (4) - I agree with blissfulyoshi, these jumps are kinda off throwing.
00:57:371 - Why the sudden stop? At least there SHOULD be a break here.
01:17:134 - 2x doesn't fit, IMO.

I will, of course, after you re-submit, fix other minimal errors there are right now. Also, I ask permission to modify hitsounds. nvm, he gave me complete permission to modify his difficulty as I want. <3
Xgor
Elite Mapper
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Joined April 2009
Xgor
[All diffs]


[Begginer]
00:09:093 (2,3) - (Suggesion) remove the finishes from these circles
00:14:030 (2,3) - ^
The 1/4 makes this diff somewhat hard to follow.....

[Loogiestyle]
I'm not a big fan of starting on the first beat (When you CAN have something before it)
00:48:051 (4,8) - The slider ticks sounds strange on these sliders due to that the sliders is on a 1/4......

[Hard]
:)

[Expert]
00:30:024 (4) - (Suggestion) Don't place this circle below the other circles
00:38:097 (4) - ^

Solid Map so a good star for you :D
*star*
Gens
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Gens
I actually disagree with all those suggestions, so no kudosu for you... sorry.
Matma Rex
586 posts
Joined March 2009
Matma Rex
[Loogie]
Consider using background with "Gens" changed to "LoogieSquared" instead of storyboarding.
00:43:019 (1,2,3,4) - make it flower-like, as at 00:24:093 (1,2,3,4,5) - !
01:16:589 (x) - note here?
01:17:068 (x) - note here?

[Beginner]
Your spacing is confusing in some places (for example 00:50:001 (1,2,3,4,5)). I understand that you hate dist. spacing, but this map is really messed up. Go through it and try to fix it.

[Normal]
00:38:069 (7) - 1/4 later?
00:54:023 (x) - note here?
00:57:023 (1) - 1/4 longer?

[Expert]
Some of these double notes were unexpected, but hey, it's Expert diff, and it map different that all others.
00:29:083 (2,3,4) - (3) 1/4 later. Maybe delete (4) too? This really doesn't feel good.
00:38:056 (2,3,4) - ^

That's all, I think. Nice map and nice song, as usually :)
Gens
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Gens
I understand Beginner is kind of Hard to follow, just because the song uses 1/4 alot. D;
I looked through and fixed some errors I saw. Thanks for looking!

Also, just so you know, I disagree with the other suggestions (I need to talk to Loogie about the background). :D
Dusty
870 posts
Joined June 2009
Dusty
[Beginner]
The really spread-out 1/4ths make this hard, but you already know that

00:50:069 (2,3) - Unintuitive spacing (all other notes in this pattern are 1 beat apart and 18-22ish grids apart; this one is 1.75 beats and 17 grids.) Also, it's not symmetrical.

[Other stuff]
all good, star
Gens
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Gens
Rearranged those beats in a different position; I don't want them to look overlaped and ugly, but hopefully it isn't as confusing as before. Thanks for looking!
0_o
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Joined December 2008
0_o
The only real issue I have is that Beginner has a lot of syncopation, which isn't very newbie friendly. Personally I would either make an easier diff, or change the Beginner you have now so that it focusses more on white ticks.

But yeah, awesome map, nice work :)
Gens
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Gens
awmnidofjvbchk

I guess I'll have to remap it sometime later. Thanks for looking! I gave you kudosu for your valuable opinion. <3
I'll move this to WiP/Help for now then.

Damn it, I can't figure out a way to map it good. I'll leave just a Normal then. This is the first time I won't include an Easy version in my maps. ;(
NoHitter
osu! Alumni
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NoHitter
Good, but needs an easier map...

LoogieStyle:
The slider velocity seems slow for a song with this tempo...
Diasios
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Diasios
Mod Info's:

Green: Suggestions.
Orange: I think you should fix this.
Red: You must fix this.

Starts Suggestions:

All seems ok.

[LoogieStyle]

Slider Tick Rate : 0,5
00:48:051 (4) - end this slider at 00:49:465
00:49:738 - add a circle

[Normal]

Slider Tick Rate : 0,5

[Expert]

Slider Tick Rate : 0,5
00:30:024 (4) - 1/4 ->
00:38:097 (4) - ^

Starred~
Andrea
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Andrea
New "Detailed" modding style for help maps <3

You don't have to follow my post, remember there are not directions, but suggestions!

[File Checking...]

Video: No.
Storyboard: Yes.
Custom Skin: No.
Background: Yes.
Source: Yes.
Tags: Yes. (Add LoogieSquared to the tags on all difficulties.)
File Size: 2,31MB/24,00MB

[Overall]

Timing: BPM: 110,05 - Offset: 680 (Remember to resnap all notes.)

[Difficulties]

[LoogieStyle]

This difficulty is too hard for be the most easier. You need an easy.

And... why the most easier difficulty have small circles... And Normal and Expert big circles?

00:00:053 (1) - You have a note before the first offset here.

[Normal]

Lower Overall difficulty by 1 or 2 ticks.

00:56:055 (1) - Partially offscreen.

[Expert]

Increase HP Drain by 1 ticks for balance with Overall difficulty.

No major problems found.
Gens
osu! Alumni
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Gens
I know, Loogie sucks at mapping. <3

Fixed stuff I saw necessary. osuplayer's offset seems more accurate to me now. Thanks!
Seems like I need to force myself to make an Easy, no matter if it's bad. But... it's okay anyway. :(
XepherX3
625 posts
Joined September 2008
XepherX3
[Overall]
add a non kiai section > 01:19:315 on all diffs

[Loogiestyle][Normal[Expert]
nothing found

makes me want a martini :lol:
starred
Gens
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Gens
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Gens
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Gens
I'm done with Beginner! This is now in pending.
cyanberryio
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cyanberryio
*yawn* this is great! just a little tired to do any good right now, but gogogo star
DeathxShinigami
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DeathxShinigami
Yeah 5 days since a last mod post. I feel confident this star will do no harm.
NoHitter
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NoHitter
Beginner

Sliders at start seem off...

01:17:144 (1) - Move the end of the spinner back by 1/4 tick, so it'll end at 01:19:053
Kytoxid
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Kytoxid
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Gens
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Gens
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Jarby
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Jarby

Gens wrote:

I still don't understand why notes before the offset are unrankable
They aren't, remove the unnecessary offset. Change Normal to Hard and make the storyboard difficulty specific, though I'd personally remove it as it's obnoxious and pointless. Make a proper Normal around 3 stars as well.

Beginner:

00:41:002 (2) - End is offscreen.
Gens
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Gens
Will calling the Normal difficulty "Normal+" be enough? I'm too lazy. Just tell me so I can update the background, in case you disagree.
Jarby
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Jarby
No, it won't be. There is simply not enough "difficulty variety" or whatever you want to call it.
Gens
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Gens
Ugh, okay then. I'll move this to Help/WiP then.
Myridium
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Myridium
[Normal+]

00:21:039 (1) - Extend Slider back one quarter.
00:29:098 (5) - This should either be removed or put forward 1/8. (Probably removed.)
00:38:070 (7) - ^^ Same thing.
00:57:024 (1) - Put the end of this slider back OR forward 1/4.

Despite the cold and commanding manner they're written in, these are just recomendations!
Gens
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Gens
Thanks for checking it, but I don't think those suggestions really fit. Sorry~

Hope you're happy now, JarJar. Finished the Normal you were asking for.
NoHitter
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NoHitter
You might as well name them:

Beginner
Normal
Hard
Expert
LoogieStyle
jockeytiyan
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jockeytiyan
Wow, I managed to not find anything wrong with Beginner and Normal
Mostly, these are suggestions.


LoogieStyle:
SPOILER
Really, this diff looks kinda stiff. It looks very limited to the spot where the combos are. And the curved sliders look ugly, IMO.
00:33:025 (5) - You can map this part if you want.
00:44:002 (4) - You could align it with 00:43:020 (1) -
00:55:061 (1) - You can also map this part and replace this slider with other elements.

Normal+:

SPOILER
Silence the slider ticks. Both 00:57:024 (1,1) - really sounds so off because of the slider tick hitsounds.


Expert:

SPOILER
00:43:020 (3,4) - Unintuitive spacing.
00:43:075 (7,8) - ^
00:57:024 (1,2) - ^

Though I think the map can still be made better, I'd still give it a star since I found minimal errors on the map, and the diffs are averagely good.
Lokamp
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Joined January 2009
Lokamp
Beglinner
00:32:030 (2,1) - ... maybe a break time between these slider and beat...

Normal
It looks fine ^^

LoogieStyle
00:13:035 (4) - remove clap
00:39:039 (11) - new combo
01:14:042 (4) - no clap here

Normal+
00:59:042 (1) - a bit hard to catch the rhythm here... try to shrink it of a tick and move it a timing tick forward

Expert
00:59:028 (1) - move it to 00:59:042 (blue timing tick)

...I think that's enough, for this map...
I've seen Insane modes harder than this one, but spacing is well set on all modes ^^
Have your star :3
Gens
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Gens
I accepted... not so many suggestions. Sorry </3

jockeytiyan: Isn't it funny? Beginner and Normal were the difficulties I've remapped recently. I'd normally expect them to have more errors and stuff. :)
jockeytiyan
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jockeytiyan
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Card N'FoRcE
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Here since the beginning
Card N'FoRcE
- General:
  • Second custom colour (blue) sometimes is really hard to see. I suggest making it a bit darker
- Beginner:
  • .Opinions:
    Good ^^
- Normal:
  • .Suggestions:
    00:57:24 (1) - maybe make it 1/4 longer? Seems to sound better that way
- Normal+:
  • .Opinions:
    Why not just call it "Hard"? xD
    .Suggestions:
    00:57:24 (1) - same as Normal
- Expert:
  • .Suggestions:
    00:58:47 - A beat here fits really well
- LoogieStyle:
  • .Suggestions:
    00:24:053 (6) - New combo? (because you have one in 01:16:87 (1) and it's the same pattern)
Great ^^
Have a star :P
Gens
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Gens

Card N'FoRcE wrote:

- General:
  • Second custom colour (blue) sometimes is really hard to see. I suggest making it a bit darker
Sorry, but I want to keep them consistent between ranked maps. :(

- Normal:
  • .Suggestions:
    00:57:24 (1) - maybe make it 1/4 longer? Seems to sound better that way
Not for me, at least.

- Normal+:
  • .Opinions:
    Why not just call it "Hard"? xD Oh, yes, I forgot to explain: I don't think it's really that Hard, also, the difficulty name "Hard" doesn't exist in the original games. What I can do is submit as "Advanced" though I'm not really sure (ack I'll need to update the background then). I'll wait for a second opinion.

    - Expert:
    [list:c542a].Suggestions:
    00:58:47 - A beat here fits really well
I don't think so.

- LoogieStyle:
  • .Suggestions:
    00:24:053 (6) - New combo? (because you have one in 01:16:87 (1) and it's the same pattern)
How did I missed this.
Thank you!
bmin11
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bmin11
[Expert]
00:43:088 (8) - Spacing. It is hard to manage speed up and jump in the same time...

That's all I guess.... I think [Normal+] should be called [Hard] since it is hard enough and it gives players an idea how hard [Expert] would be like
Gens
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Gens
zzz fine I'll call it Hard
Just because you all told me. D=
Azure_Kite
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Azure_Kite
Here's my my

Blue = Suggestion Red = Check this

[Easy]
No problems found

[Normal]
No problems found

[Loogiestyle]
00:09:026 (1) - Move the last slider point up by 1 grid, left by one grid, and move the slider right by 1 grid
01:01:060 (1) - ^
No problems found

[Hard]
No problems found

[Expert]
No problems found

A good beatmap with no problems as far as I can see. Have a well deserved star.
Gens
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Gens
Thanks!

By the way, someone needs to refresh the thumbnail, background has been updated a lot of times and it's a hell lot better now.
PhaseMetal
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PhaseMetal
The map is fun to play, and some of the slider combos are a blast. Great job!
Fuuko
486 posts
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Fuuko
Fuuko's mod DEKIMASHITA! <33

Normal :

00:29:166 (3); Extend by 1/4 beat and change the sound from clap to finish.
00:37:890 (3); ^
Eh. Star for you, Gens. Get this ranked already
Gens
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Gens
FuukoLover: But I like how it is right now. :(

Thanks for the star anyway!
whymeman
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whymeman
Lets see....

[LoogieStyle]

00:00:054 (1) - Note before the first offset.
01:03:051 (5) - Not snapped within the timeline.
01:05:028 (2) - ^
01:05:069 (4) - ^
01:07:019 (1) - ^
01:09:037 (1) - ^
01:09:092 (3) - ^
01:10:033 (1) - ^
01:12:010 (1) - ^
01:12:051 (3) - ^ (Make sure both points of the slider is resnapped.)
01:14:042 (4) - ^
01:16:019 (4) - ^


The rest of the map seems fine. The timing did feel odd at first, but its acually the flow of the map that makes it seem that way, not the timing itself (still a good idea to double check that though)
Gens
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Gens

JarJarJacob wrote:

Gens wrote:

I still don't understand why notes before the offset are unrankable
They aren't, remove the unnecessary offset.
AAAAAAA

Also, just a common "Resnap all notes" will do. I'll fix it in a bit. :P
EEeee
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EEeee
beginner
00:57:038 (1,1) - move 1/4 back

Normal
sounds a bit weird, but i guess it's okay

LoogieStyle
looks good

Hard
looks good

Insane
00:43:088 (8) - uhh, doesn't play to well,not at all, space it

hmm, that's all, songs pretty catchy
*star
Gens
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Gens
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whymeman
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whymeman
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Lilac
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Lilac
Gens is happy now that he doesn't have to waste any more kudosu stars.

A round of applause showers down.
ztrot
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ztrot
lovely
Gens
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