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Sakura
Dont worry by then you probably will have been lynched anyways.
fartownik

Sephibro wrote:

Sephibro, you probably voted every single player that is present in this game already.
...and?[/quote]
Your votes don't mean anything to me except that the person gets +1 in the votecount.
fartownik
^ random quote mess
Sephibro
i'm sorry for you

Sephibro wrote:

acting that cocky as a town is just silly
Sakura
@farto: they are still well worth VCA later on in the game.
Sephibro

Sakura wrote:

VCA
I don't know this abbreviation
Sakura
VCA = Vote Count Analysis
GuyInFreezer
also that Disrespect dude is probably timeater or someone like that.
fartownik

Sephibro wrote:

acting that cocky as a town is just silly
Tell that to Disrespect.
Sakura

GuyInFreezer wrote:

also that Disrespect dude is probably timeater or someone like that.
You're probably right actually. I remember how he entered that thread like everything was solved just because he was there and telling everyone to sheep him because he was "too pro at mafia" and he was scum.
Rantai
Not sure why you guys are so enamored on who he is. He's a player, he has put forward his thoughts - no different to anyone else? It's sort of derailing the discussion a bit.

From where I stand, I can see the reasoning behind lynching GiF (sephi actually mentions something that makes sense) but I still feel we have better candidates than him (I'm sorry but I cannot see 2 mafia pulling a gambit like that this early in the game unprovoked and this particular neutral doesn't seem to be detrimental at the moment unless there is some janky scum x town role(s)).

I still don't believe redo is the way to go here but I highly doubt I can convince anyone to lynch otherwise (I gave my full thoughts, if no one agrees then oh well). I'd still rather see a pieguy lynch or to a lesser extent, DD.
GuyInFreezer
Then Rantai could answer this question.

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Sephi you mentioned that I might have a different wincon.
What do you have in mind?
And whatever you have in mind, tie it with this question: "does claiming third party d1 help fulfilling that wincon?"
GuyInFreezer
Deadline is nigh.

Ppl who's not voting rEdo already, do so now.
Also don't even dare touching fartownik tonight or you'll be paying with your life.
You have been warned.
fartownik

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Deadline is nigh.

Ppl who's not voting rEdo already, do so now.
Also don't even dare touching fartownik tonight or you'll be paying with your life.
You have been warned.
My hero :^)
DakeDekaane
Still a better love story than Twilight.
Sakura

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Deadline is nigh.
Wasn't it extended by 48 hours?
Sephibro
vote: DD
Irreversible

Sakura wrote:

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Deadline is nigh.
Wasn't it extended by 48 hours?
yup.. 21.10 now
Sephibro
lol irre nice avatar
Sakura
Makes me think he's Andrea lol
Irreversible
Noo, I'm just supporting Italy orz xD
I like your ava too btw sakura, fits nice to your green name. ^.^~
DakeDekaane
Sephibro, are you sure voting me? I mean, what reasons do you have to vote me? You're basically just jumping around everyone, pls stop.
Sephibro
ok let's stop blowing each other and let's try to say something useful
1. why hasn't Disrespect posted yet?
2. why does everybody want to kill rEdo?
3. who do you think we should lynch?
Irreversible

DakeDekaane wrote:

You're basically just jumping around everyone, pls stop.
When I said Sephibro raged at me, so i'm wondering why he didn't rage at you?


And those questions sephi.. you tell me to read but don't do it yourself? o.e
Sephibro
i didn't understand your first sentence
About the second one, what makes you think i haven't read some posts?
Sephibro
oh and another question

4. if you were scum, would you put your partners among Not Lynching, Ok with Lynching or Willing to Lynch?
Sakura

Sephibro wrote:

4. if you were scum, would you put your partners among Not Lynching, Ok with Lynching or Willing to Lynch?
Do you realize how useless of a question this is?
Irreversible
My first thing was: When I said this TO sephibro, you raged at me, and it actually was like that
I asked you why you're jumping around all the time, then

Sephibro wrote:

do you even read my posts or are you just begging to have my vote on you
I just realized i missed like 5 pages of reading, i didn't even see that disrespect was posting?
with that your question 1 is really useless, and sorry, but i really can't stand that anymore, you tell me i should read the things and yourself you're not doing anything else. What I actually think is that you're trying to confuse town with your gameplay, and that's all.
Irreversible
Is sephibro confirmed town or claimed town?
Irreversible
I mean, do we know from somewhere that furude rika is town?
Sakura
Flavor is useless, but his claimed role is useful for town, so far i believe it.

Too bad he cant save me tho, i just hope i dont die before I get to use my ability.
Rantai
@GiF - The point that lynching a neutral is better than lynching a town is what I can agree with. Your wincon doesn't really concern me, it's a matter of damage control. But again I don't believe it's the best course of action.
Sephibro

DakeDekaane wrote:

Ok.
Unvote

Target me this night Sephibro, if you don't do it, you're scum in my eyes, I'm willing to trust you today, even if you're playing in a bad way.

Keeping an eye on pieguy and NH.
On a reread, I want you to clam or at least claim your passive now
NoHitter
My read on Disrespect is town.
The way he posts brings some attention to himself which I don't think scum would do so openly on D1.
Also, the suggestion to lynch GIF, though I disagree with, looks like something town would do.
The metashielding argument with Sakura is pretty much a null tell.
Sakura

NoHitter wrote:

The way he posts brings some attention to himself which I don't think scum would do so openly on D1.
It is quite possible
NoHitter
I generally don't like using meta, but if Disrespect is timeater then the metashielding argument may make sense.
Although, it'll be more of a null tell if he plays the same way as town.
Sakura
Well its GiF who made me think he's timeater.
pieguyn
given what Sakura linked I wouldn't put it past this guy to act this way as mafia.. orz

even if rEdo isn't posting anything, I agree the discussion got derailed and I like how Rantai tried to move the discussion away from who this guy is. I got lost trying to figure out what the hell was going on @A@ but at the same time he didn't point out the blatant sheeping I did, which seems kind of weird = =..
fartownik
Filler posssst
DakeDekaane

Sephibro wrote:

I want you to clam or at least claim your passive now
I'm not going to claim yet. I said that because it'd be enough to confirm you while keeping our protective roles safe.
Irreversible
hm, so what now?
Sakura

Irreversible wrote:

hm, so what now?
We lynch rEdo, he flips sucm, we celebrate and go to night.
Sephibro
im not sure he will flip scum but if really everybody wants to lynch him i'm ok with that
GuyInFreezer

fartownik wrote:

Filler posssst
Rantai
Not much time to read stuff atm, will be back tomorrow after my final tut.
Sephibro
good luck for it Rantai

btw Disrespect didn't post yet and nobody answered any of my questions, deadline is tomorrow
Irreversible
disrespect posted..? -_-
because your questions are more than unnecessary, it's all written down
Sephibro
if we don't post, interesting things (such an Irre protecting a Disrespect who almost only posted offences against Sakura 3 days ago) wouldn't happen
GuyInFreezer
He got scared and ran away after I figure out who he is.
Sephibro
do you think he's worth lynching?
DakeDekaane
rEdo - Disrespect - Irreversible, gg
fartownik
Sephibro lynch gg
Sephibro
lol
Irreversible
Okay, I don't really know what happened but telling the truth != defending other people.

Sephibro was nearly crying 'he didn't post yet'.
He posted though, that's the only thing i said.
fartownik
He meant he didn't post again after posting.

Where's sheep fartownik to victory \:D/ now?!
GuyInFreezer

Sephibro wrote:

do you think he's worth lynching?
Yes.
Sephibro
but at least i would like him to take a read at topic and post before lynching :\
NoHitter
Vote: rEdo
He's at L-1 guys.

Also, Disrespect's disappearance is bothering me. His play style looks like that of a player who posts lots of short posts.
Sephibro
@mod: prods pls
pieguyn
don't prod me plz ~
fartownik
If rEdo flips Town then both scum are on his wagon.
Sephibro

fartownik wrote:

If rEdo flips Town then both scum are on his wagon.
are you implying they are two?
pieguyn

fartownik wrote:

If rEdo flips Town then both scum are on his wagon.
where'd you get the idea that there's 2 scum
pieguyn
dat ninja LOL
fartownik
Because there's 12 players, jesus.
fartownik
It's silly to get that question from you, pieguy.
pieguyn
in Touhou IV there were 12 players and 3 scum. plus people were saying that even 3 scum is low for 12 players @_@
fartownik
2 is a usual number for 12 players. We also have a claimed third party so it's even more probable. Don't pick on me for shit like that, it looks scummy.
pieguyn
most games with 2 scum that I've seen have had 10 or less players 0.0

just seems weird for me, but if it was just an assumption then ok
fartownik
Uh, perhaps I made a wrong assumption there. I didn't recall the amount of players from the past games correctly, thinking it was 12 and in fact it was 9 most of the time. I guess you're right there, 3 would be more suitable for 12 players.

For the whole game I thought it was just 1-1 partnership between scum, meh. This game could've been easily mianipulated.
Sakura
12/4 = 3. So 3 is norm for 12p.
rEdo
I find funny the reasoning behind the votes on me, by the way :')
GuyInFreezer
loldeadlinelynch!
somebody hammer
Sephibro
Unvote, vote Disrespect
do the right thing and sheep to this

Also rEdo a lynch on you would be legitimate because you're not doing anything

unofficial votecount

[6] rEdo -- Sakura, DakeDekaane, pieguy1372, GuyInFreezer, Irreversible, NoHitter (L-1)
[1] pieguy1372 -- Rantai
[1] Sakura -- BRBP
[1] Sephibro -- fartownik
[1] GuyInFreezer -- Disrespect
[1] Disrespect -- Sephibro

[0] BRBP --
[0] DakeDekaane --
[0] fartownik --
[0] Irreversible --
[0] NoHitter --
[0] Rantai --


Not Voting -- rEdo
Sephibro
Since Caligno seems to be disappeared with Disrespect, i asked the co-mod Jinxy to prod people and votecount
GuyInFreezer

Sephibro wrote:

Unvote, vote Disrespect
do the right thing and sheep to this

Also rEdo a lynch on you would be legitimate because you're not doing anything

unofficial votecount

[6] rEdo -- Sakura, DakeDekaane, pieguy1372, GuyInFreezer, Irreversible, NoHitter (L-1)
[1] pieguy1372 -- Rantai
[1] Sakura -- BRBP
[1] Sephibro -- fartownik
[1] GuyInFreezer -- Disrespect
[1] Disrespect -- Sephibro

[0] BRBP --
[0] DakeDekaane --
[0] fartownik --
[0] Irreversible --
[0] NoHitter --
[0] Rantai --


Not Voting -- rEdo
Why bother switching wagon when dl is imminent?
Jinxy
Vote Count 1.10

Will append flavour later.

[6] rEdo -- Sakura, DakeDekaane, pieguy1372, GuyInFreezer, Irreversible, NoHItter (L-1)
[1] pieguy1372 -- Rantai
[1] Sakura -- BRBP
[1] Sephibro -- fartownik
[1] GuyInFreezer -- Disrespect
[1] Disrespect -- Sephibro

[0] BRBP --
[0] DakeDekaane --
[0] fartownik --
[0] Irreversible --
[0] NoHitter --
[0] Rantai --

[0] No Lynch --

Not Voting -- rEdo

Deadline is at 10:30 AM CST (GMT-6) on 10/21, estimated 1.75 hours from now. If neither of us starts Night then, it is Dusk and votes after that point are not counted.

BRBP and Disrespect are in prod range. Prodding.
Sephibro
Thank you Jinxy

@GiF: because Disrespect looks scummier than rEdo. Why don't you want to switch vote?
DakeDekaane
Do you expect everyone comes here and vote Disrespect in an hour? Hahaha, no.
Topic Starter
Amianki
End of day will appear shortly. If you have been prodded and try to post after night starts, please respond to the prod by PMing both Jinxy and me instead.
rEdo
I'll help you guys out, I don't really have the motivation to play after all.

Vote: rEdo
suits me well to suicide, I'm Shion after all x)

just do something for me, and for the sake of this game: I will flip town, so please make an analysis who started the wagon and who joined it under what circumstances. I completely dislike how I got voted on, so I'd like you to analyze that. as for I'm dead, I won't be saying anything more. peace and good luck town~
fartownik
You silly man
Topic Starter
Amianki

Jinxy wrote:

Vote Count 1.10

The dam construction project holds more secrets than you think.

[6] rEdo -- Sakura, DakeDekaane, pieguy1372, GuyInFreezer, Irreversible, NoHItter (L-1)
[1] pieguy1372 -- Rantai
[1] Sakura -- BRBP
[1] Sephibro -- fartownik
[1] GuyInFreezer -- Disrespect
[1] Disrespect -- Sephibro

[0] BRBP --
[0] DakeDekaane --
[0] fartownik --
[0] Irreversible --
[0] NoHitter --
[0] Rantai --

[0] No Lynch --

Not Voting -- rEdo

Deadline is at 10:30 AM CST (GMT-6) on 10/21, estimated 1.75 hours from now. If neither of us starts Night then, it is Dusk and votes after that point are not counted.

BRBP and Disrespect are in prod range. Prodding.
For ISO consolidation and flavor-adding purposes.
Topic Starter
Amianki
June 14, 1983

This place is making me even more uneasy. I walked out of the house I was graciously offered to live in until my departure and found most of the town's denizens standing in one place. I initially was curious and wanted to investigate, but I stopped cold as soon as I realized what was going on.

One of the kids, a green haired girl, was laughing maniacally as several of the other townsfolk pinned her to the ground. I froze in place as I realized that the rumors about this place may not have been misplaced. A bag had been fitted on her head and she was dragged off, leaving behind insane muffled laughter the entire way.

I returned to my work, but a commotion about an hour later brought me back out. The girl's corpse had been dragged back and the townspeople were staring at it in disappointment.

"Looks like we guessed wrong this time."
"We'll have to try again tomorrow."
"Good night, everyone."

The crowd was completely gone within minutes, leaving the girl's body in the middle of the street to be illuminated by the setting sun.


rEdo, Shion Sonozaki, Innocent Hinamizawan, has been lynched Day 1.

It is now Night 1.
Deadline is 10/23 at 11:30 AM CST (GMT-6). This is roughly 15 minutes over 48 hours.
Topic Starter
Amianki
June 15, 1983

Sleep was close to impossible last night. It took hours to finally nod off, but a nightmare kept me from staying asleep. This place is starting to really affect me.

I was nearly too afraid to leave the house this morning, but I finally found the resolve to accept anything that might happen here.

All I found was just the same group of people looking bored.


It is now Day 2. With 11 alive, it is 6 to lynch.
Deadline is Nov. 6 at 1:00 PM CST (GMT-6)
Sakura
First order of business, i still dont have my kill, second sephibro who did you target last night?

Third, I got quite an FoS on ppl off rEdo for BS reasons... a.k.a farto.

Fourth:

Vote: Disrespect
Rantai
Now I'm almost certain that one of pieguy or DD is scum (rose coloured goggles perhaps?)

I've already said my piece on them but given that they were 3rd and 2nd respectively on that (town) wagon, chances are likely one of them was following an initiated wagon. Though I don't quite understand why Irre was on the wagon (willing to lynch BRBP/Zexion at the time then somehow AtE swayed him to redo out of the blue?) and if my assumption is correct then NH's vote seemed reasonable (I'll let him explain himself first).
Sephibro
wow both me and sakura alive, i can't believe it :O
btw, i don't think it is wise to tell who i targeted this night, at least for now

There are 4 possibilities to explain what happened
1. I targeted the right person, but to be honest i don't think so
2. There is another role who can protect and he probably protected me or sakura
3. Scum targeted someone who targeted me
4. Scum increased the HS of multiple people to hide information and get multiple kills on the following nights

imo 4 is the most probable one, and also the worst for town

Btw, i hope someone has something interesting to tell us, so I'll wait for everyone to post


Another last observation: since night lasted until deadline, probably there's someone who didn't use their action
Rantai
Oh;

Mod: Title hasn't been updated.
Sephibro
@Sakura: are you allowed to use your action yet? YES / NO / PREFER NOT TO ANSWER
Irreversible
I did what redo wanted, and looked through the isos!
there is something what really bothers me about pieguy:

pieguy wrote:

of all the people I'm not townreading, rEdo would be the person who I find least suspicious atm, but ok
vote: rEdo
> he joined the wagon to put more pressure on him

also: he never really wants to say his scumreads: mostly he says who's town / nulltown / null (in fact he only said scum: NH once)

Vote: pieguy
Irreversible
EMBOP (or however this is called)

I guess he never tells his 'scumreads' directly that people don't really pay attention to him. Of course we can think of who he thinks who's scum - but still, i hope you get my point
Sephibro
Cowboy EMBOP
Irreversible
XD Instead of trolling me better tell me how it's really called xDD
pieguyn

Irreversible wrote:

> he joined the wagon to put more pressure on him
he was one of the people who I was fine with lynching, so I joined the wagon. nothing he said changed my opinion on him >_<

Irreversible wrote:

also: he never really wants to say his scumreads: mostly he says who's town / nulltown / null (in fact he only said scum: NH once)
why can't I townread people and PoE the scum? 0.0 that's what I've been doing this game given I've got townreads on a lot of people

anyway, I'm pretty sure at least 2 of Rantai, Dake, or Disr are scum, for the above reason
Sakura

Sephibro wrote:

@Sakura: are you allowed to use your action yet? YES / NO / PREFER NOT TO ANSWER
Not yet, you'll probably know when I can use it since I can use it and prove it during the day anyways.

rEdo's AtE felt very fake and i'm surprised he didn't garner more votes, it's time to see at those who stayed off the wagon and why, since it's likely at least 1 scum stayed away from it because they knew he was town and wanted town cred.
fartownik

Sakura wrote:

Third, I got quite an FoS on ppl off rEdo for BS reasons... a.k.a farto.
"Because reasons"

And Sephibro goes with his pseudo-town-analysis agaaaain, instead of productively adapt new information we got after rEdo flipped Town.

I'm still willing to lynch Sephibro, but also pieguy and NH. They seem like good candidates from the rEdo wagon, and I can bet all my money scum is on it.
Irreversible
:(..
GuyInFreezer
Vote: Disrespect
DakeDekaane
Vote: BRBP
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