Mafia have a special nightkill and the part that they being able to increase multiple people's HS at night worries me.

also farto while you're here, is there any reason why you asked for "Mion" to claim?

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Mafia have a special nightkill and the part that they being able to increase multiple people's HS at night worries me.

so you basically just confirmed my theory of somebody having a special nightkill (for example Sakura), or what? I don't remember anybody mentioning anything about the special nightkill before.

I wanted to give myself a little while to think it off mostly. Also didn't trust you 100% and wanted to check how will people react to the missing character, thought something helpful might came up.

the English is broken, too tired to write

day/night kill but I can't use it yet.

Also i found it funny that you're suspecting me just because I'm voting you but since you're asking I'll break it up to you.

You're voting Irre for being Irre, which is a playstyle-tell at most, and in most games he's been mislynched as town for playing like that, which means that he's most likely town this game as well, I'd imagine scum-Irre would be a little more careful with how he plays, yet he's in your willing to lynch list, and... you got no one else there. And can you remind me of who are you voting now?... certainly not Irre.

GuyInFreezer wrote:

also farto while you're here, is there any reason why you asked for "Mion" to claim?

i personally see it as a town behaviour, if somebody else claimed Mion it would have been great

rEdo wrote:

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Mafia have a special nightkill and the part that they being able to increase multiple people's HS at night worries me.

so you basically just confirmed my theory of somebody having a special nightkill (for example Sakura), or what? I don't remember anybody mentioning anything about the special nightkill before.

No, it's the total opposite.
Mafia already has a special kill, so giving scum another special kill doesn't make much sense. (In case you didn't know, mafia vig in the team = two kills at night and that's way too OP to be in 12p setup.)

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Mafia already has a special kill, so giving scum another special kill doesn't make much sense. (In case you didn't know, mafia vig in the team = two kills at night and that's way too OP to be in 12p setup.)

unless there are only 2 mafia

You could argue that Sakura is a SK, which doesn't make sense either.

Sephibro wrote:

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Mafia already has a special kill, so giving scum another special kill doesn't make much sense. (In case you didn't know, mafia vig in the team = two kills at night and that's way too OP to be in 12p setup.)

unless there are only 2 mafia

vig claim makes this not likely.

wow I shouldn't post when I'm tired, I only end up posting retarded shit

Vote: rEdo

just lynch me already ^_^

Vote Count 1.08

The exact same events have happened before.

[2] BRBP -- fartownik, Irreversible (L-5)
[2] DakeDekaane -- pieguy1372, Sephibro (L-5)
[2] pieguy1372 -- Rantai, DakeDekaane (L-5)
[2] rEdo -- Sakura, rEdo (L-5)
[1] Sakura -- BRBP
[1] Sephibro -- NoHitter
[1] Zexion -- GuyInFreezer
[0] Irreversible --
[0] Rantai --
[0] GuyInFreezer --
[0] NoHitter --
[0] fartownik --

[1] No Lynch -- Zexion

Not Voting --
Deadline is at 10:30 AM CST (GMT-6) on 10/19.

NoHitter is V/LA until Oct. 17.
Searching for a replacement for Zexion.

GuyInFreezer wrote:

They do have a nightkill.

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Mafia have a special nightkill and the part that they being able to increase multiple people's HS at night worries me.

wtf? Scum has no nightkill. Explain further plz.

are you already pissed off rEdo?

pieguy1372 wrote:

@Dake: why the vote ;w;

Because. Your reaction is quite different as the one I expected btw.

DakeDekaane wrote:

wtf? Scum has no nightkill. Explain further plz.

He has already explained, scum's NK is to increase people's HS levels so they suicide.

Oh, I understood it as they had both, don't mind me then.

first post

CalignoBot wrote:

5.4) The mafia do not get a standard mafia kill. Instead, they have the ability to increase the HS level of multiple people.

Btw, the third party SK is not excluded, and Maebara Keiichi is a good candidate for it. But it doesn't make a big difference if Sakura's town or SK, since if she's SK she will aim to kill scum, and scum will aim to kill her -> we can trust her as town for now

rEdo wrote:

wow I shouldn't post when I'm tired, I only end up posting retarded shit

Vote: rEdo

just lynch me already ^_^

i really would like to lynch you now, waiting for your post when you're less tired, since I know the feel of posting retarded shit while tired

I'll post more tomorrow (catch up reading), I actually do read things but I can't really think of anything to say,

except this:
BRBP, really. You judge me to give weird reasons and you judge me for being me? OK
Guy, in your .. votesheet (?) You've put yourself on the list. I dunno what to think about it

Sephibro wrote:

rEdo wrote:

i really would like to lynch you now, but i'll wait for you to post when you're not tired

ok it sounds better now

Irreversible wrote:

Guy, in your .. votesheet (?) You've put yourself on the list. I dunno what to think about it

I put myself in my list too

pieguy1372 wrote:

I know you said future. I was wondering where you got the idea I'd have a double standard. if I hadn't had one before, this seems like a really weird idea to just suddenly have. o.o

also way to go listing just me under "want to lynch" when you say it's suspicious when I tunneled NH. even if it's not explicitly the tunneling that was suspicious =A=

I cannot recall any specific times in the past but I'm pretty sure you would have picked up on it somewhere, hence why I will be watching closely to see if you contradict yourself at anytime during this game. It's better than meta too being prospective.

One word. Combination.

Sephibro wrote:

rEdo wrote:

wow I shouldn't post when I'm tired, I only end up posting retarded shit

Vote: rEdo

just lynch me already ^_^

i really would like to lynch you now, waiting for your post when you're less tired, since I know the feel of posting retarded shit while tired

You would

Irreversible wrote:

Guy, in your .. votesheet (?) You've put yourself on the list. I dunno what to think about it

It's a common myth that only scum do that kind of things.

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Not lynching
GuyInFreezer
Sephibro
pieguy
Irre
Fartonik
Sakura

Ok with lynching
Dake
NH
Rentai
rEdo

Willing to lynch
Zexion
BRBP

Sephibro wrote:

Not lynching
GIF
Sephibro
pieguy
farto
Sakura

Ok with lynching
BRBP
Irre
rEdo
NH
Zexion (if replacement is found)


Willing to lynch
DD
Rantai
Zexion (if no replacement is found)

pieguy1372 wrote:

Not lynching: NH, fartownik, BRBP, Sakura, Sephi, Irre, GIF
ok with lynching: Rantai, rEdo
want to lynch: Zexion, Dake

Sakura wrote:

Not Lynching:
NoHitter
GuyInFreezer
Sephibro
fartownik
Irreversible

Ok with Lynching:
Anyone that doesnt fit in the others

Willing to Lynch:
DakeDekaane
BRBP

fartownik wrote:

Not lynching: Rantai, Sakura, GuyInFreezer, Irreversible, Zexion (for now), DakeDekaane
Willing to lynch: BRBP, Sephibro,
Ok with lynching: rEdo, NH, pieguy

Rantai wrote:

Not lynching
GuyInFreezer
Sephibro
Fartonik
Sakura

Ok with lynching
Irre
Dake
NH
rEdo
BRBP
Zexion

Willing to lynch
pieguy

Irreversible wrote:

Not Lynching
Pieguy
farto
Sakura
Sephibro
GuyInFreezer

Ok with Lynching

DakeDekaane
reDo
Rantai
NoHitter


Willing to Lynch

BRBP
Zexion

BRBP wrote:

Willing to lynch
Irre for being too Irre once again

Ok with lynching
Everyone else

Not lynching
Seph (Claimed)
Zexion (I'd give the mod one more day to find a replacement)
pieguy (D1)
Rantai (D1)
Sakura (D1/D2 to give time to prove the claim or something)
farto (I'll look into to that Mion discussion and what it is again when I have time, for this post I'll just assume farto belongs to this category)

rEdo wrote:

Not lynching
pieguy - seems town as yet
NoHitter - nitpicked me on FoSing twice, and that's a rather town behaviour
fartownik - town for hunting scum as actively as he usually does
Sephibro - already mentioned before
Rantai - need some more content, but he looks town as yet
Sakura - claimed

Fine with lynching
BRBP - rather town-null, but if it's necessary to lynch, I'll join in.
DD - should read his ISO anytime soon, wasn't paying him much attention as yet
Zexion - not too active, asked for a replacement
GuyInFreezer - I don't think he's said anymore more but that he must survive with Mion. also I completely dislike how he suggested lynching Zexion just to "save mod the trouble".

Willing to lynch
Irreversible - same reason as GIF

If I've not missed anyone, the only missing to this are NH (V/LA), Zexion (waiting for replacement) and DD (who preferred posting silly things instead)
I would do the unvote, vote DakeDekaane thing now, but looks like my vote's already on you. Do you want to give us other reasons to lynch you?

NL: Not Lynching; OK: Ok with Lynching; L: Willing to Lynch


farto: 8 x NL, 0 x OK, 0 x L

Sakura: 8 x NL, 0 x OK, 0 x L

Sephibro: 7 x NL, 0 x OK, 1 x L (farto)

GIF: 6 x NL, 2 x OK (BRBP, rEdo), 0 x L

pieguy: 5 x NL, 2 x OK (Sakura, farto), 1 x L (Rantai)

Irre: 4 x NL, 2 x OK (Sephibro, Rantai), 2 x L (BRBP, rEdo)

NoHitter: 3 x NL (pieguy, Sakura, rEdo), 6 x OK, 0 x L

Rantai: 3 x NL (farto, BRBP, rEdo) , 4 x OK, 1 x L (Sephibro)

rEdo: 0 x NL, 8 x OK, 0 x L

Zexion: 1 x NL (farto), 5 x OK, 3 x L (GIF, pieguy, Irre)

DakeDekaane: 1 x NL (farto), 5 x OK, 3 x L (Sephibro, pieguy, Sakura)

BRBP: 1 x NL (pieguy), 3 x OK (Sephibro, Rantai, rEdo), 4 x L


Tell me if you see any mistake. Obviously people who didn't vote have 9 votes on them, all the others 8.

btw I'll give a closer look to this tomorrow

Did you get something from it besides me missing from making it?

Don't lose more time in a town vs town (if you are town ofc). Thanks for condensing the list though.

I'd vote pieguy/rEdo/BRBP, basically they're not willing to lynch half of people. Specially pieguy, who only posted 4 people who he'd vote, unless he has awesome scum-finding skills, which I really doubt.

Which is interesting is that everyone is ok with voting rEdo.

Also you added some extra stuff on NH, Zexion and me

DakeDekaane wrote:

I'd vote pieguy/rEdo/BRBP, basically they're not willing to lynch half of people. Specially pieguy, who only posted 4 people who he'd vote, unless he has awesome scum-finding skills, which I really doubt.

I didn't understand anything

DakeDekaane wrote:

Which is interesting is that everyone is ok with voting rEdo.

I find it pretty obvious, until then rEdo was the one who had posted less, and who had posted the most neutral content

DakeDekaane wrote:

Also you added some extra stuff on NH, Zexion and me

I didn't add anything:

Sephibro wrote:

Obviously people who didn't vote have 9 votes on them, all the others 8.

I fucking hate people who don't read everything, they may not be scum but they are useless or harmful to town

choo choo

Vote: rEdo

Sephibro, what I wanted to say is that people while reducing their scum suspects to a very few AND not wanting to lynch a considerable amount of people, I don't feel comfy about it, like if they know who is town and who isn't, basically one (at least I) can consider the not wanting to lynch as townreads and the rest null/scum.

I concede you the last one, I derped doing math.

Also I find a bit silly that rEdo and BRBP just want to lynch Irre, and would join some other wagons.

Sephibro wrote:

I fucking hate people who don't read everything, they may not be scum but they are useless or harmful to town

But still town.

The lists are mostly so a wagon gets through if we need a compromise lynch.

Also sephibro, remember I said I added rEdo to my "Willing to lynch" list.

Huh so everyone is more or less ok with a redo lynch?

Not sure how to feel about that, every time I see a full player list on 1 person (though this is not strictly the same thing) I tend to question if that person is scum because that means everyone including scum is on it. Then again it's mostly null sentiments but still something I am going to keep in mind.

Because scum needs that shiny bus for town cred.

@Dake: there's nothing stopping people from lynching one of the people I don't wanna lynch without my vote. I won't support a lynch on any of my townreads unless the only alternative is NL, kthx
cause the last time I did I ended up being right and then my other townread got NK'ed N1
anyway:

BRBP - posting seems genuine
Sakura - claimed
Sephi - town intent. I'd really be surprised atm if he flips scum 0.0
Irre - posting seems genuine again
GIF - claimed
fartownik - claimed
NH - I was thinking he was suspicious earlier, but he survived my relentless questions and then I looked back and didn't think he was too suspicious on the second pass, so he's town for me atm. there's some things that are worrying me (jumping on Sephibro, FoS'ing due to semantics explained below) but atm I srsly doubt he's scum

it's mostly gut I guess. I'm really not sure how I feel about it, so I'm just going with it for now 0.0

DakeDekaane wrote:

he has awesome scum-finding skills, which I really doubt.

I'm insulted ;w;

DakeDekaane wrote:

Sephibro, what I wanted to say is that people while reducing their scum suspects to a very few AND not wanting to lynch a considerable amount of people, I don't feel comfy

I had a thought like this earlier. I don't think it's suspicious, but imo everyone who only posted one "wanna lynch" should come up with another one, otherwise it kind of defeats the whole point of negotiating a lynch.

this whole thing between rEdo and GIF seems like semantics. sephibro said something just like this. I think people are caring way too much about whether scum increasing HS level of people counts as a "nightkill", and if it does if it's a "regular" vs. "special" nightkill, etc.

of all the people I'm not townreading, rEdo would be the person who I find least suspicious atm, but ok
vote: rEdo

unvote, vote: rEdo

[2] rEdo -- Sakura, rEdo, DakeDekaane, pieguy, Sephibro (L-2)
don't hammer thanks

Seriously, rEdo's lynch would be the easiest one at the moment. And it's what the scum is aiming for.

What kind of scum in the world would vote himself and just give up letting others to vote him? I believe rEdo is lazy to play, he doesn't care much about this game, that's the result.

I don't like Sephibro's tryhard one bit. Barely anything you have done here can be considered helpful, it only pretends to be like that. Also many topic and question avoidances, inconsistencies. Even if I've seen you as Town for those flip flops from before, it doesn't look bright for you at the moment.

If it's not Sephibro nor BRBP then I think scum is among NH and pieguy, not together though. Gut feeling for the latter, meta + posting only unimportant stuff from NH (filler posts).

fartownik wrote:

Seriously, rEdo's lynch would be the easiest one at the moment. And it's what the scum is aiming for.

What kind of scum in the world would vote himself and just give up letting others to vote him? I believe rEdo is lazy to play, he doesn't care much about this game, that's the result.

I don't want rEdo to be lynched, I see this as a good occasion to force him to talk. I'm still pro No Lynch d1 btw

I don't get why you think a claimed doctor-ish role is scum, unless you think he's just making it up. either way we're not lynching Sephi just because you think he's lying

I believe rEdo is lazy to play, he doesn't care much about this game, that's the result.

I got a similar impression from him, which is why he's the least suspicious of all the people I'm not townreading. but I can't bring myself to townread someone on the basis of just this, and mb some scum might do it too (Quaraezha in Paska Mafia, although he outright claimed scum in that game so..) just thinking about it logically, he hasn't done much of anything, which sets off a massive red flag for me. IMO it's a good idea to add pressure for now and see what we get

NOT
fartownik - duo of unlyncher and unlynchee

GuyinFreezer - ^

Sephibro - claimed doctor-like role.

Sakura - standard town play from Sakura I guess. Ignoring meta, null tells on her reaction test and attitude so far.

OK
Rantai - null tells so far. I see nothing that stands out. Even checking on meta, nothing stands out as well.

Irreversible - lots of fluff posts. Looking through the ISO, doesn't really have anything that stands out.

BRBP - I'm not sure what to think of BRBP. I'm not one for heavy meta arguments, and I don't see a case made without meta at all.

DakeDekaane - nothing really of out place, but after reading the ISO, I got a bad feeling. Weak null-scum read because of that.

pieguy1372 - not too sure about that sudden 180. Not sure if going away from the tunnel is a town tell.

WILLING
rEdo - that defeatist attitude. Whenever I'm in a game and something like that happens, it's always town giving up, but I cannot deny that I haven't seen games where mafia just gives up. Well there's that thing with the two FoS from before, but this WIFOM at the moment is really bothering me.

Zexion - inactive. Prior to asking for a replacement, suggests a no lynch even after we've been through all the hell about how NL-ing is bad. I'm willing to opt for a lurker lynch given the suspicious play.

---

fartownik wrote:

meta + posting only unimportant stuff from NH (filler posts).

Care to point out which posts of mine have that?

What I don't get about the rEdo wagon was how it formed int he first place. Among the list of people in "Willing to lynch", BRBP had the most votes (4). rEdo had 1 vote (Sakura) less than other people like Dake and Zexion. That fact is making me a bit wary of that wagon atm. I'll settle for voting my alternative.
Vote: Zexion

okay, since I'm not tired, less retarded content incoming.

Unvote

I had that thought of Sakura being a mafia vig, but I also thought that it could be too OP, but somehow I ended up posting that thought as a way to defend myself anyway ._." so I just didn't want to mire myself even further and simply ragevoted myself, as I was too tired to defend myself and even think about the game anymore (it was like 1:30 AM and I had to wake up 4 hours later Q_Q).

and yeah, I just don't have the time (nor, in all honesity, motivation) to follow the game thoroughly and be as active as some of you, I believe I'll ask for a replacement if that attitude won't leave me anytime soon. even though I'm town and I know that it'll be a waste, I'm pretty much fine with a lynch on me, if that might help you in any way, however please do keep in mind that a lynch on me is what scum would want to happen

also, concerning Irreversible - the only content I've noticed so far (besides random "you're le scum XD" posts) was pretty much tagging to Sakura's reaction tests, and that resulted in an easy townread, which concerned me. so, I actually wanted to put some more pressure on him as well to see what happens. I ended up in a L-2 because of that :­D

rEdo wrote:

the only content I've noticed so far (besides random "you're le scum XD" posts) was pretty much tagging to Sakura's reaction tests, and that resulted in an easy townread, which concerned me. so, I actually wanted to put some more pressure on him as well to see what happens. I ended up in a L-2 because of that :­D

All irre's done this game including what you mentioned is what I've seen him doing as town, what makes you think this time he's scum? why do you wanna put pressure on him that could lead to another potential town pr claiming, or potential town vt that scum can avoid increasing HS of? the thing is that I don't see any town motive behind your actions.

not really satisfied but ok
unvote, vote: Rantai

Why Rantai over DD? (Looking at your willing to lynch list)

NoHitter wrote:

not too sure about that sudden 180. Not sure if going away from the tunnel is a town tell.

It depends on the timing. Backing off by his own will is null if not slight-town. Backing off because of the peer pressure, however, indicates that the person is either dependent or probably scum.

Sakura wrote:

Why Rantai over DD? (Looking at your willing to lynch list)

i've already tried the DD wagon before rEdo's one, nobody followed

Sakura wrote:

All irre's done this game including what you mentioned is what I've seen him doing as town, what makes you think this time he's scum? why do you wanna put pressure on him that could lead to another potential town pr claiming, or potential town vt that scum can avoid increasing HS of? the thing is that I don't see any town motive behind your actions.

you've done something this game, let me give it a try as well. :­(

Placeholder post.

I want to read through everyone's iso to check something first but I am not going to do that at 4:30 am.

I expected to find much more activity coming back home, deadline is near...

@mod: to make it easier to read everyone's ISO:

1. pieguy1372
2. NoHitter
3. fartownik
4. Rantai - Raging Bull
5. BRBP
6. Sakura
7. Sephibro
8. Irreversible
9. rEdo
10. GuyInFreezer - Blue Yoshi
11. Zexion
12. DakeDekaane

There's a program that generates that code anyway, i'm considering using that for future games. rEdo's last post feels fake, I want him lynched more than anything now.

Sakura wrote:

rEdo's last post feels fake

I had this feeling too

Vote: rEdo
I think I'm just gonna sheep Sakura for a while

*sigh*

I'm done trying to defend myself, do what you guys please, you'll see that it was a waste.

Bye!

rEdo wrote:

*sigh*

I'm done trying to defend myself, do what you guys please, you'll see that it was a waste.

Who's scum?

Sakura wrote:

Who's scum?

either you or Irreversible

rEdo wrote:

Sakura wrote:

Who's scum?

either you or Irreversible

why?

Why only one scumread?

rEdo wrote:

Sakura wrote:

Who's scum?

either you or Irreversible

Am I just scum because I am myself? What I don't get either - you said i'm scum for the same reasons as GIF said, but wasn't it BRBP? or did i miss something o.o

My current thoughts are about BRBP and reDo, because they both want to get me lynched for being myself well, I try my best to scumhunt o.o Maybe it's a failed wagon? And will there be a replacement for Zexion now? (i hope he hasn't been replaced yet, GIF lol xD) >.<

I can understand reDo's behaviour though, that he wants to get lynched all the time, if you try to defend yourself and nobody listens you just give up and want to die.

I am for lynching BRBP or Zexion.

Tbh what rEdo's post felt like was forced AtE.

Irreversible wrote:

I can understand reDo's behaviour though, that he wants to get lynched all the time, if you try to defend yourself and nobody listens you just give up and want to die.

His posts look like scum giving up rather than town giving up.

Not surprising after how he got caught in that newbie game.

AtE? o.o

Irreversible wrote:

AtE? o.o

Appeal to Emotion, and trust me GiF should know a lot about AtE after dealing with me in MS.

okay..nnnnnnnhhhh
Unvote
Vote: reDo

Since I guess Guy is .. kinda trustable, although i still want to know why he was voting me

GuyInFreezer wrote:

AtE

im too tired and i drank too much to look fior it
whatis it

Sakura wrote:

Irreversible wrote:

AtE? o.o

Appeal to Emotion, and trust me GiF should know a lot about AtE after dealing with me in MS.

nvm

I hate this lynch so bad.

was it a hammer? no it wasnt

fartownik wrote:

I hate this lynch so bad.

2 days left, instead of just saying it's bad bring up suggestions, we run out of time

Vote Count 1.09

You are being followed home.

[5] rEdo -- Sakura, DakeDekaane, pieguy1372, GuyInFreezer, Irreversible (L-2)
[1] BRBP -- fartownik
[1] pieguy1372 -- Rantai
[1] Sakura -- BRBP
[1] Rantai -- Sephibro
[1] Zexion -- NoHitter
[0] DakeDekaane --
[0] fartownik --
[0] GuyInFreezer --
[0] Irreversible --
[0] NoHitter --
[0] Sephibro --

[1] No Lynch -- Zexion

Not Voting -- rEdo
Deadline is at 10:30 AM CST (GMT-6) on 10/19.

NoHitter is V/LA until Oct. 17.
Searching for a replacement for Zexion.

Holy shit.
How many votes does it take to lynch that rEdo guy? O.o

i think there's an error, it's L-2 for rEdo not L-5

[5] rEdo -- Sakura, DakeDekaane, pieguy1372, GuyInFreezer, Irreversible (L-5)
^
Lol'd

highlander

Over 9000

Sephibro wrote:

I expected to find much more activity coming back home, deadline is near...

@mod: to make it easier to read everyone's ISO:

1. pieguy1372
2. NoHitter
3. fartownik
4. Rantai - Raging Bull
5. BRBP
6. Sakura
7. Sephibro
8. Irreversible
9. rEdo
10. GuyInFreezer - Blue Yoshi
11. Zexion
12. DakeDekaane

copy this code and use it in the first post

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8. [url=https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/search.php?author_id=1287964&t=157876][b]Irreversible[/b][/url]
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11. [url=https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/search.php?author_id=1617530&t=157876][b]Zexion[/b][/url]
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Also @caligno, do this pls

NH's vote's on Zexion

gif and sakura, do you think rEdo is scum?

Unvote
Vote: Sephibro
And it's only just begaaan

It's kinda sticky.
Logic says scum, gut says town.

fartownik wrote:

Unvote
Vote: Sephibro
And it's only just begaaan

if you voted me because i didn't ask your opinion, i didn't because you weren't among the "Users browsing this forum"
If that's it, ofc i want to hear your opinion too. If there's another reason, help me facepaling pls

The AtE just confirmed my suspicions. That's all. But something is itching my nose: who are you rEdo?

Sephibro wrote:

fartownik wrote:

Unvote
Vote: Sephibro
And it's only just begaaan

if you voted me because i didn't ask your opinion, i didn't because you weren't among the "Users browsing this forum"
If that's it, ofc i want to hear your opinion too. If there's another reason, help me facepaling pls

It had nothing to do with my vote on you.

I don't like the rEdo lynch, and you're one of the main factors of its happening. Also your lynch would give us a fair amount of information, most likely the most out of every possibility. I also don't believe in your intentions anymore as they don't coincide with my own anyhow, and that's not a good sign.

So you wanna lynch an Un-CC'd doctor-like PR?

fartownik wrote:

I don't like the rEdo lynch, and you're one of the main factors of its happening

what if i told you

that i don't want rEdo to be lynched and my vote's on Rantai?

fartownik wrote:

Also your lynch would give us a fair amount of information, most likely the most out of every possibility. I also don't believe in your intentions anymore as they don't coincide with my own anyhow, and that's not a good sign.

yes, that's definitely not a good sign...

Sakura wrote:

So you wanna lynch an Un-CC'd doctor-like PR?

Is he confirmed Doctor? I don't think so.

Also uh oh, don't count that rEdo argument. Sorry for that, sleepy as fuck. It's my last post and I'm going to the bed.

Ok now that I have time to read and put my thoughts together;

My opinions have not changed on pieguy or seph and I'm not overly willing to lynch our claimed PR's at this moment. Though I'm still waiting for Sakura's Magical Girl Answers time (this is a random name, don't read into it).

I'm not so sure about BRBP, what few posts he has made are mostly reactionary which doesn't really leave much to be interpreted. Right now his inactivity doesn't indicate much to me but I get the feeling he could be contributing way more, leading me to lean towards the idea he's just fluffing at the moment as he's intermittently posting stuff but not actually contributing much. Null-scum here. *as a side note: his bandwagon is another factor I need to think over again, but I think at this stage it doesn't really indicate much again*

I really don't get the Irre meta argument (or maybe because I just don't like a 100% meta reasoning) of him being town. That said though, going through his posts he has a huge number of single sentence posts. Whether or not he's just being succinct is something to be debated but it actually looks like he's actively trying to put some pressure on people albeit they are rather frugal. I'm sitting at a null-town here.

Redo's posts didn't really stand out at all in any regard prior to his sudden self vote. I will admit self voting is always a bucket of wifom for me because it swing between a town trying to make a point all the way down to a scum doing a last ditch attempt to get out of a situation (at least, that's what I think of them). The thing is though redo wasn't in that terrible a position at the time so it was completely out of the blue (Kneejerk perhaps? I can't really make a call). Despite this though his universal lynch status (for lack of better words in this case) has me hesitant to believe that he may be a mafia and more of a self depreciating town. Dead null for now as the two sides are still being debated in my head, especially as the status was not strictly a suspicion list (which I would probably say he is town if that was the case).

Zexion didn't have many substantial posts prior to going inactive, except that no-lynch which made no sense. Dead null, inactivity is a null at best, I'd rather see a replacement before forming an opinion.

DD has been strange on and off.

I'm ok with a policy lynch on BRBP, BUT Sephibro doesn't like them, what to do?

And then

If BRBP gets lynched and flips town I'm going to pressure so hard on people that based on meta.

Also combined with his response to me about following pieguy because of points he made against BRBP; which happened to be meta based. What I see here after reading back again is that he was fine with a BRBP lynch due to points made by pieguy based on meta which then changed to a policy lynch reason (with an unvote) which then changed to him going to attack people on BRBP if he just happened to be town if they had used meta against him. That is a jumble of flip-flopping with a statement to distance himself from a potential mislynch (although he wasn't on that wagon at the time, his sentiments were stated without amendment prior to the statement). That alone has me leaning scum-null.

NH's posts have also been primarily reactionary but given that pieguy tunneled on him consistently I'd say it's a different situation to BRBP's. Actually he does have a few posts that are not reactionary but outside that his posts don't seem to stand out at all. In fact I'd say they seem a lot more conservative than I'm used to but of course meta isn't much to go by. Dead null for now.

dat activity... 2 days to go guys, just letting you know

unvote Rantai, I don't trust him yet but at least he didn't conform to majority

I WANT NH, BRBP and DD to talk now

Sephibro wrote:

I WANT NH, BRBP and DD to talk now

I already gave my reads three? pages ago. Nothing happened so much as to change my opinion on the matter.

EBWOP: Four pages ago.

Sephibro wrote:

I WANT NH, BRBP and DD to talk now

i forgot rEdo, too

btw NH, why do you feel posting as a "duty"?

So Sephibro I'm not happy with you self-pushing rEdo without actually voting him, why dont you want to put him at L-1?

EBWOP: Soft-Pushing

GuyInFreezer wrote:

Logic says scum, gut says town.

My idea on rEdo is quite the opposite: gut says scum, logic says town.
There was no pressure on him when he came off with voting himself and catching up everyone's attention. His posts suggest me he's a townie who's not giving much fuck about this game, more than scum. I don't want to put him on L-1 because it would be an easy hammer, and honestly i prefer No Lynch on lynching rEdo now

Hi.

Why did you vote Rantai again Sephibro? You were already voting him, and you say you prefer No-Lynch, really what?

No Lynch d1 is always bad.

DakeDekaane wrote:

Hi.

Why did you vote Rantai again Sephibro? You were already voting him, and you say you prefer No-Lynch, really what?

Sephibro wrote:

unvote Rantai

k

So we're running low on time gotta lynch something or risk No Lynch.

so if we don't hammer there won't be a lynch?