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Royston

DakeDekaane wrote:

I bet the mindfuck is preventing people to post, but, do you guys aren't forgetting something? That should help to figure out the alignment of dead people.
Sorry, what do you mean by this?
Blue Yoshi_old
I might regret doing this, but.
Mod: Can you please prod lilac?
Royston
oh no

Blue Yoshi - (???) - Mysteriously vanished D2

RIP :(
pieguyn
vote: Royston imitating mod
NoHitter
@farto
You should probably know why.
NoHitter
Or rather, you probably can infer why.
Raging Bull
Will have limited access this week. Mod can replace me if needed.


And blue yoshi you didnt die, explain now
Royston

fartownik wrote:

Wow, so much of a ruckus and a regular NK happened.
incidentally, what makes you sure it was a regular nightkill? In a game like this, I mean.
Rantai
Wait, I didn't realise this before but doesn't missing imply that the person will be back?
fartownik

NoHitter wrote:

Or rather, you probably can infer why.
So you mean it would be too obvious? Well, you might be right, but I don't really have anything else on my mind, besides kook whom would be too obvious with your train of thought as well.

Royston wrote:

oh no

Blue Yoshi - (???) - Mysteriously vanished D2

RIP :(

Raging Bull wrote:

And blue yoshi you didnt die, explain now
I don't get this, he really died and got revived or you just call him inactive in a fancy way? :p

Royston wrote:

fartownik wrote:

Wow, so much of a ruckus and a regular NK happened.
incidentally, what makes you sure it was a regular nightkill? In a game like this, I mean.
I assumie that. Also we all expected something huge, like a lot people dying or the game ending and instead we got just 1 kill, like in most regular games.
fartownik
Also Lilac might have a post restriction possibly.

@mod: does Lilac have a post restriction?
NoHitter
kook wouldn't be. I guess you didn't infer it correctly then.

Incidentally, this Information Mafia could be a more messed up version of Mafia in the Dark.
Maybe the "information" change is the one the mod is giving out. In Mafia in the Dark, I gave scum the ability to fake the flips of the deaths.
fartownik

NoHitter wrote:

kook wouldn't be. I guess you didn't infer it correctly then.
Then excuse me, but I don't know why Tsukasa wouldn't be scum in your opinion if it's not about it being too obvious (unless you're Cop? but it would be silly to post reads like this when you're Cop). This game really made me sick in the head and I'm not sure what could be possible and not, you might like to explain it to me.

NoHitter wrote:

Incidentally, this Information Mafia could be a more messed up version of Mafia in the Dark.
Maybe the "information" change is the one the mod is giving out. In Mafia in the Dark, I gave scum the ability to fake the flips of the deaths.
I guess this could be possible seeing how Tanz didn't flip anything, but it doesn't answer why Lilac was introduced to the game so late, why he doesn't post and what were all the hints used by the mod about (you can judge it was just a play from the mod, but can never be sure).
Royston

fartownik wrote:

Raging Bull wrote:

And blue yoshi you didnt die, explain now
I don't get this, he really died and got revived or you just call him inactive in a fancy way? :p
he's probably referring to this

BlueYoshi wrote:

Waiting for my night action to resolve.
If it happens the way I hope it to I will be dead.

BlueYoshi wrote:

If it doesn't happen I'll explain myself fully.
If it does, well there'd be no need for such things, now would there?
fartownik
I guess I must've missed that.
Blue Yoshi_old
There's no way to reveal this without revealing my role. If you guys want me to I will, but you probably won't like it.
And I won't either. ;-;
fartownik
Then why you promise something you can't fulfill? Little liar!
NoHitter
I'm NOT an investigative role.
^ It shoud be obv- ok maybe its not so obvious, but I reall don't think his scum for a reason.

Exposing that reason would defeat its purpose though.
fartownik
If you're talking about Blue Yoshi's - it might be a real lot of roles that can cause him being dead during the night, or a lot of WIFOM he might've thought as true while doing the action.

@Blue Yoshi: are you going to try that again tonight?
Topic Starter
LadySuburu

fartownik wrote:

@mod: does Lilac have a post restriction?
I can't answer that question, obviously.
rEdo

LadySuburu wrote:

fartownik wrote:

@mod: does Lilac have a post restriction?
I can't answer that question, obviously.


no, seriously, I kinda have no idea what to say right now...
prod dodging with this post
Blue Yoshi_old
I bon't see why the prad didn't work, begause if's been at least 24 haurs since the day stafted.
@mod: was Lilac prodded? Also, may BRBP and kookookook be prodded?
fartownik
There has been no notification that Lilac has been prodded whatsoever, even after asking the mod to prod him. Also there's absolutely no mention of prods in the rules of this game, and no one has ever encountered a prod before here. We simply can't know whether he's inactive or have a post restriction until he speaks himself.
Royston
screw it, I'll be the guinea pig.

vote: Lilac
mod: votecount please (or at least tell me if my vote went through or not)
fartownik
An important question to everyone here: has anyone targeted Hardenbergia aka Lilac during the night?
fartownik
^ no need to reveal the specific action nor the role, simply say if you targeted him, it should be helpful.
Topic Starter
LadySuburu

Royston wrote:

screw it, I'll be the guinea pig.

vote: Lilac
mod: votecount please (or at least tell me if my vote went through or not)
You have a vote on Lilac now.
Topic Starter
LadySuburu

Blue Yoshi wrote:

I bon't see why the prad didn't work, begause if's been at least 24 haurs since the day stafted.
@mod: was Lilac prodded? Also, may BRBP and kookookook be prodded?
Assorted people have been prodded.
pieguyn
I didn't
man why are there no new pages? in Touhou PyP there were like 7 new pages every day and they were all when I was asleep > <
fartownik
Maybe because almost no one is doing anything? I've already voted + posted my motivations, it's time for other people to start working too.

I hope the mod prodded the inactive ones, especially Tsukasa because this is ridiculous.
pieguyn
okay wtf
what if the mechanic is that players die without any indication whatsoever? that would explain why so many people aren't posting, also fits theme too
I hate to do setup speculation so late but just throwing this out there...
fartownik
That's pretty much impossible. Almost everyone already posted D2 and I doubt there would really be something like unlimited day vigilante killing off people one by one, it's just silly. I don't really know about the people that haven't posted D2 just yet - which are kookookook, Lilac and BRBP, though I think they're simply being inactive as fuck.

Also players that haven't posted for last 24h: Tsukasa, DakeDekaane and Raging Bull. These people should be prodded immediately.

We really should concentrate on scumhunting instead of silly theorizing like this, will lead us nowhere.
Knarf
Hi there. I've nothing to say, just to prove I'm alive.
pieguyn
hi
tell us who you think the mafia are plz :)
fartownik
How are we even supposed to judge anything when you just jump out of nowhere saying you have nothing to say, about anything. What can we judge of that? Even if you are Town and don't feel like playing the game anymore, you just ruin it for us because of not playing it (equals with anti-town behavior).

We can't lynch you based just on inactivity, or at least that would be reckless considering you're newbie, and we can't simply let you stay there because you don't contribute at all and we can't know whether you are town or not...

If you are not into the game - ASK FOR A REPLACEMENT.
Rantai
Well might as well get something going.

DakeDekaane wrote:

Basically we can get 1 or 2 scum there, there may also a third, but it's less likely. I didn't tell this before because it could've been ruined by people taking the votes off.
So, might I ask what conclusions you came up with after yesterdays ordeals?

I still don't like how you tried to mitigate any responsibility of your vote/hammer by making this statement.
Raging Bull
I said i have limited access for a while, but im still on blue yoshi, he still has not answered my question. Hes been scum to me ever and has done nothing townlike to me
Royston
Well I'm going to keep my vote on until Lilac posts something
pieguyn
blue yoshi and kookookook post who you think is mafia plz

and that goes for everyone else who hasn't posted anything too
Lilac
I'm sorry. I have a mid-semester test at Uni coming up this Friday and my mind is just a bit not focused on this.

You guys are absolute basket cases though. By you guys I mean farto.
pieguyn
yaaaay Lilac arrives ~

welcome again \:D/

also Lilac is town
Lilac
The Hardenbergia violacea is known as a flowering plant that is native to Australia, growing from Queensland all the way down the coast to Tasmania. Also known as the Lilac Vine. A misleading name as it actually is not a true lilac, the fragrance is weak and it actually thrives in Winter, the flowers bloom in Winter as well making it immune to any type of frost damage. When there is no flower, the leaves on the vine itself are attractive enough not to mention the low maintenance this has making it an ideal plant for anyone.

tl;dr Mew.
fartownik
Thx we know that already. Why don't you start answering all the stuff we given here instead of stating the obvious?

Also

pieguy1372 wrote:

also Lilac is town
Hey you can totally judge that by one post.
VoidnOwO

Blue Yoshi wrote:

I don't see why the prod didn't work, because it's been at least 24 hours since the day started.
@mod: was Lilac prodded? Also, may BRBP and kookookook be prodded?
Thanks for this, I completely forgot the game x_x

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fartownik wrote:

An important question to everyone here: has anyone targeted Hardenbergia aka Lilac during the night?
No

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Royston wrote:

screw it, I'll be the guinea pig.

vote: Lilac
mod: votecount please (or at least tell me if my vote went through or not)
You probably remember that I got my vote through even when he was "???". Why wouldn't it work now?

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Raging Bull wrote:

but im still on blue yoshi, he still has not answered my question. Hes been scum to me ever and has done nothing townlike to me
Could you repeat the question? All I found was a weak argument about his joke unvote (in RVS...) of me from 6 days ago. Like, really? That's all you're waiting for?

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pieguy1372 wrote:

blue yoshi and kookookook post who you think is mafia plz
and that goes for everyone else who hasn't posted anything too
You've asked this three times now but haven't posted yours yet. All you've said it that we three are suspicious for not posting on D2.

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pieguy1372 wrote:

yaaaay Lilac arrives ~
welcome again \:D/
also Lilac is town
OK. Why?

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kookookook wrote:

Hi there. I've nothing to say, just to prove I'm alive.
Doesn't really matter if you're alive or not if this is all you're going to do, you know?

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LadySuburu wrote:

Tanz - Speedy Reviver - Missing N1
I'm really doubting this... Are there any roles out there that could modify flips however they want?
What's speedy?

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fartownik wrote:

I want Lilac to say what's so specific about his role that he was introduced to the game so late.
VoidnOwO

BRBP wrote:

fartownik wrote:

An important question to everyone here: has anyone targeted Hardenbergia aka Lilac during the night?
No
No, I didn't*
Raging Bull

Raging Bull wrote:

What are you saying? He posted only 3 freaken times before he even said "anything" How could you have noticed he focused on the game with so little post? It was mainly RVS, seeing someone edit and request mod kill, and comment on one of the RVS on him.


Sorry i dont care if its weak but if anything is suspicious to me i will keep bringing it up. And also i voted him at the start of D2
DakeDekaane

Royston wrote:

DakeDekaane wrote:

I bet the mindfuck is preventing people to post, but, do you guys aren't forgetting something? That should help to figure out the alignment of dead people.
Sorry, what do you mean by this?
The people who are town may understand this better, as LS said that at the mere beginning of the game about our aligmnment, so if there isn't any kind of reviver, I think it's safe to consider dead people as town. Even you said "Saulus" (Yuno) convert to town after dead, so this is the most likely scenario.

Rantai wrote:

Well might as well get something going.

DakeDekaane wrote:

Basically we can get 1 or 2 scum there, there may also a third, but it's less likely. I didn't tell this before because it could've been ruined by people taking the votes off.
So, might I ask what conclusions you came up with after yesterdays ordeals?

I still don't like how you tried to mitigate any responsibility of your vote/hammer by making this statement.
The fact that I hammered was because it'd be easier to check possible scum, at least to myself, I know this was a pretty bad move and I don't blame you if you suspect me because that.

@fartownik: I didn't target Lilac last night.

Vote: Tsukasa
I'm being nice with kook until he speaks.

pieguy1372 wrote:

blue yoshi and kookookook post who you think is mafia plz

and that goes for everyone else who hasn't posted anything too
In case you missed it: p/2531578

DakeDekaane wrote:

My main suspects
From the wagon: Tanz and Royston.
Not in the wagon: Tsukasa, kook and Blue Yoshi.
Note that this was before Tanz's death.
DakeDekaane
^Voting Tsukasa as he's my stronger suspect atm.
Blue Yoshi_old
Are there even alignments in this setup?
I'm scared by that.
Blue Yoshi_old
The reason I say this is because I just noticed my role pm never stated an alignment.
Raging Bull
FOR BLUE YOSHI



Raging Bull wrote:

Raging Bull wrote:

What are you saying? He posted only 3 freaken times before he even said "anything" How could you have noticed he focused on the game with so little post? It was mainly RVS, seeing someone edit and request mod kill, and comment on one of the RVS on him.


Sorry i dont care if its weak but if anything is suspicious to me i will keep bringing it up. And also i voted him at the start of D2
Royston

Blue Yoshi wrote:

The reason I say this is because I just noticed my role pm never stated an alignment.
Yes I mentioned this back on D1, I got attacked for saying it.

Royston wrote:

also I don't have a win condition in my PM. Is that something meaningful or was that just done for brevity (along with the lack of mentioning alignment). Yeah I've seen the post about "if there isn't an alignment listed, you're town" but it still kinda unnerves me.
@BRBP I just wanted to make sure nothing had changed since then.

anyway, unvote as promised but I'd like to hear more from Lilac
Rantai

pieguy1372 wrote:

blue yoshi and kookookook post who you think is mafia plz

and that goes for everyone else who hasn't posted anything too
At this stage? Royston and/or DD. Not very strong leads though, I'm still trying to process.
Knarf

pieguy1372 wrote:

blue yoshi and kookookook post who you think is mafia plz

and that goes for everyone else who hasn't posted anything too
I would suspect blue yoshi. He's trying to show that he's not scum in his posts but he voted other than himself at night. Action is more important that speech.
fartownik
Unvote
Vote: kookookook

^ yeah, action is more important than speech - and you actually do nothing (and barely speak too). You didn't even respond to my huge as fuck post directed to yourself. Hopeless.
Raging Bull
God damnit can you guys just vote blue yoshi or me so i can shut up
Royston

Raging Bull wrote:

God damnit can you guys just vote blue yoshi or me so i can shut up
No, because I don't think either of you are scum...

Do you have any other suspects apart from Yoshi?
Topic Starter
LadySuburu
I know I haven't given a hint in a while guys, and I just wanted to say teeja dev em myutfg usgyemc taic. Cheatf, jem'g vo GEEH sulohar. YU noum, Yu'n meg cujycgys.
Knarf

Blue Yoshi wrote:

The reason I say this is because I just noticed my role pm never stated an alignment.

Blue Yoshi wrote:

Are there even alignments in this setup?
I'm scared by that.
It was unnecessary for blue yoshi to post these if he were not mafia. He's trying to claim himself away from it, but this claim was suspicious.
Rantai

LadySuburu wrote:

I know I haven't given a hint in a while guys, and I just wanted to say teeja dev em myutfg usgyemc taic. Cheatf, jem'g vo GEEH sulohar. YU noum, Yu'n meg cujycgys.
.... wtf.

Going to bash my head on this for a bit, RB - I don't think you're scum and I don't think he's scum either.
Raging Bull
If he ever flips scum Ill kill non believers.


Also Ill be busy. Im at magical mirai. Hatsune miku event
Royston

LadySuburu wrote:

and I just wanted to say teeja dev em myutfg usgyemc taic. Cheatf, jem'g vo GEEH sulohar. YU noum, Yu'n meg cujycgys.
Jrggdpplw L nqhz L vkrxog kdyh wdnhq wkh Chuj odqjxdjh fodvv lq kljk vfkrro :roll:
pieguyn
>about 17 hours ago

I'll make a post later tonight cause I have a lot to do right now
fartownik

Royston wrote:

Chuj
what

Also reminding that the deadline is in 2 days, 13 players "active" and alive, only 3 of which are currently voting. I don't even know how to comment this.
Royston
Well, I have no idea who to vote for. I'm tempted to vote for one of the inactives (i.e. like 50%+ of the players) but my leads are poor at best. And I'm still waiting for Lilac to say something about the concealment until D2, but I'm not sure we're gonna get anything.

Has anyone worked out what the coded message is? I've tried a few things but honestly I'm pretty bad at this kind of stuff.
fartownik
I've tried to decipher the code for like an hour yesterday, no results so far. I will try today again as I'm not as sleepy as yesterday, maybe some idea will ring in my head.

Also just vote on ANYONE you think is scum. It's better than sitting and doing nothing, maybe someone will actually reply in the end.
Raging Bull
I admit i havent been paying much to this game much, but man why care about the message too much?
fartownik
Because it's the only interesting thing that happened here for the entire day (a game day, not a real one).
Blue Yoshi_old
I'm guessing "jem'g" is either don't or won't, but that doesn't exactly help a lot.
Royston's translation is BS too.
Royston
well it wasn't a translation but I'll give you it was BS
Raging Bull
So I'll just go off the Yuno wagon (damnit fart)

pieguy, what was your reason for voting Yuno? You seem to said Jester seems common in LS games yet you still voted for him despite his behavior where it seems like he really wanted to be lynched.
fartownik
Yuno should've been modkilled before lynching tbh, he won because he broken the rules, we wanted to lynch him no matter what so we get his flip. I don't really think judging by that wagon helps anyhow, especially with people that joined it at last.
Raging Bull
Why is he lynched anyways?He was given lots of chances despite the fact you saw him with proof he deleted his pst and Sakura posting he deleted his posts a lot.


I think it might help, scum might want to lynch someone who looks like they are about to get lynched.
fartownik
It doesn't really matter since it was purely Townie behavior to vote him, for the sake of his flip. Also the mod probably pitied for him and let him win just for fun, though it wasn't necessarily fair from his side.
Royston
I think I'm getting somewhere with the code
Topic Starter
LadySuburu

fartownik wrote:

It doesn't really matter since it was purely Townie behavior to vote him, for the sake of his flip. Also the mod probably pitied for him and let him win just for fun, though it wasn't necessarily fair from his side.
That's part of it, but there's more to it than that.

Ask me again when the game's over. If I even remember by then.
Royston

LadySuburu wrote:

and I just wanted to say goodu job on night actions guys. Sfough, don't be TOOF careful. IA mean, Ia'm not sadistic.
It's pretty rough, and there's obviously things I've overlooked, but that's what I've got
Topic Starter
LadySuburu

Royston wrote:

LadySuburu wrote:

and I just wanted to say goodu job on night actions guys. Sfough, don't be TOOF careful. IA mean, Ia'm not sadistic.
It's pretty rough, and there's obviously things I've overlooked, but that's what I've got
*clap*

http://www.ookii.org/egs/uryuom
Blue Yoshi_old
Oh please.
Raging Bull
how the hell royston did you use that translator? Or you somehow really decoded that
Raging Bull
Why do I keep starting new damn pages.
pieguyn
Royston u win

vote: rEdo
copies fartownik all of D1 and is nowhere to be seen D2. IMO, if we go for a lurker lynch let's start here
pieguyn

Raging Bull wrote:

So I'll just go off the Yuno wagon (damnit fart)

pieguy, what was your reason for voting Yuno? You seem to said Jester seems common in LS games yet you still voted for him despite his behavior where it seems like he really wanted to be lynched.
I never said a jester was common, I just said there was a good chance for there to be a jester

anyway, I voted him just cause he was being so counter-productive for town
Royston

Raging Bull wrote:

how the hell royston did you use that translator? Or you somehow really decoded that
yup I decoded it using this website, it took a lot longer than I'm willing to admit
Topic Starter
LadySuburu
Man, designing these hints from scratch is a bit more difficult. I have to be careful not to mess it up... I might still have, but oh well. Ack why am I putting in effort.

2-18, 3-97, 1-3, 7-5, 33-119
Rantai
Wow that was pretty impressive Royston I gave up after a while ;_;

Also I'd think he wasn't modkilled due to the super secret end game stuff LS is hinting at.
Raging Bull
@pieguy, okay then I'll give you that, especially since it was d1. I just think that if someone is acting counter productive (like oh god so serious) I don't really think they would have been mafia at all.
Royston
Well, I'm not sure how far away the deadline is, but here we go

Vote:Lilac

still hasn't posted anything to make me reconsider my position
Knarf
Where's Tsukasa?
Not posting for almost a week.
Vote: Tsukasa
Lilac
You had no position to begin with, Royston.

Vote: farto. More than convinced that the charade of his on D1 was completely misleading and caused more panic for town than it should. It was also stupid, like half the questions you asked.
Royston

Lilac wrote:

You had no position to begin with, Royston.
This has been, and remains my posistion.
I assume that their are more Town-aligned players than non-Town players in the general pool - that's a fairly safe assumption in my opinion. However, the chance of ??? being town-aligned? It's possible but it could just as easily be scum-aligned or a neutral party. Therefore, if I were to vote ??? I'd say the odds of that helping town would be greater than lynching someone at random.
pieguyn
prod: NoHItter, DakeDekaane, Tsukasa, BRBP, fartownik, rEdo
fk this is ridiculous
Topic Starter
LadySuburu

pieguy1372 wrote:

prod: NoHItter, DakeDekaane, Tsukasa, BRBP, fartownik, rEdo
fk this is ridiculous
Assorted people have been prodded.

Fartownik is not eligable for a prod at this moment.
Rantai
Vote: DD - reasons given if you read back.

I think I agree and disagree with you there Royston. I would speculate that he isn't town or scum (unless scum suddenly got a member who was publicly announced, which makes little sense). Town is more likely than scum but I am leaning heavily third party due to the nature of the arrival.

But being an LS game whatever I speculate is wrong, generally. ;~;
Rantai
As an added note, third parties could swing either way, so it's more of a 50/50 than beneficial.
DakeDekaane

LadySuburu wrote:

3-18, 3-97, 1-3, 7-5, 33-119
Royston, could you?

I got a vote, yay me. I doubt we're going anywhere like this, I'm staying on Tsukasa not because inactivity, but lack of content.

Also, hi Lilac~
NoHitter
Responding to prod.

@Deka
I'm pretty sure Tsukasa is innocent. So please unvote him.
Royston
Royston, could you?
no
Lilac

Royston wrote:

Lilac wrote:

You had no position to begin with, Royston.
This has been, and remains my posistion.
I assume that their are more Town-aligned players than non-Town players in the general pool - that's a fairly safe assumption in my opinion. However, the chance of ??? being town-aligned? It's possible but it could just as easily be scum-aligned or a neutral party. Therefore, if I were to vote ??? I'd say the odds of that helping town would be greater than lynching someone at random.
No it hasn't. If it has, you wouldn't have waited for me to say anything and would have voted for me in the first place. Your voting, reasoning and position is flawed or you're just confused.
Royston
Well, yeah, I refrained because I thought you'd give some sort of information regarding why you were hidden D1
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