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fartownik
That was like the weirdest shit I've ever seen in mafia so far.
Raging Bull
Go die fart :(
fartownik
Fack you, how would I know :/
Raging Bull
Answer the damn question blue yoshi
DakeDekaane
Yuno best jester play.

@Royston:

Blue Yoshi wrote:

The whole thing just seems like an opportunistic wagon to me.
Basically we can get 1 or 2 scum there, there may also a third, but it's less likely. I didn't tell this before because it could've been ruined by people taking the votes off.
Rantai

DakeDekaane wrote:

Basically we can get 1 or 2 scum there, there may also a third, but it's less likely. I didn't tell this before because it could've been ruined by people taking the votes off.
Which is fundamentally flawed thinking because had anyone taken their vote off, you could easily identify them.
Rantai
That and you're part of the vote wagon, easily deflecting responsibility by breadcrumbing your "plan".
Royston
Yuno - Hurried Jester (Conditional Saulus)
(Conditional Saulus)
Just noticed this. Saulus apparently means a player converts to the town's side after death. But, a conditional one? What was the condition? I'm guessing that condition wasn't fulfilled otherwise Yuno would still be in the game? If so, why was Yuno so indifferent towards getting lynched? Or has he won already? I'm so freakin' confused right now.
Raging Bull
Conditional perhaps he needed to give dt lynched 1
Tanzklaue
instead of looking at the guys on the waggon, we probably should look on the guys who weren't on the waggon or only reluctantly joined it.

if there is a person who knows everyones role, then this person might not have wanted to lynch the jester, especially if the person is townaligned, even if that's unlikely.
Royston
Well, apart from Yuno himself, four people weren't on the wagon. Here's my very brief impressions:

  • Tsukasa laid a vote really early on me and never changed. Then, after I claimed, there was a remark made about it but the vote remained and I was never mentioned again (?)

    Blue Yoshi has been focused on pretty hard by RB for whatever reason. I really don't see what the deal is here, as I've said before that weird exchange at the beginning didn't mean much to me. Otherwise hasn't posted a whole lot.

    BRBP has been pretty inactive and has been flying under the radar.

    kookookook hasn't posted much either, but has focused mainly on the mystery person and later on advised against voting for Yuno. Hasn't really given us much. Null from my view.

    Rantai has been questioning and creating discussion without focusing on a particular person in particular. He's leaning town for me.
Anyway, thought I'dl get this down in case I die tonight.
Royston
four five people
DakeDekaane

Tanzklaue wrote:

instead of looking at the guys on the waggon, we probably should look on the guys who weren't on the waggon or only reluctantly joined it.

if there is a person who knows everyones role, then this person might not have wanted to lynch the jester, especially if the person is townaligned, even if that's unlikely.
This guy.

Why you don't want to look for the guys in the wagon? Afraid of something? Do you know something that the rest don't?

My main suspects
From the wagon: Tanz and Royston.
Not in the wagon: Tsukasa, kook and Blue Yoshi.
Tanzklaue

DakeDekaane wrote:

Tanzklaue wrote:

instead of looking at the guys on the waggon, we probably should look on the guys who weren't on the waggon or only reluctantly joined it.

if there is a person who knows everyones role, then this person might not have wanted to lynch the jester, especially if the person is townaligned, even if that's unlikely.
This guy.

Why you don't want to look for the guys in the wagon? Afraid of something? Do you know something that the rest don't?

My main suspects
From the wagon: Tanz and Royston.
Not in the wagon: Tsukasa, kook and Blue Yoshi.
you are on the wagon too, and you deflect a lot of attention here.

is it possible to have so much "luck" to enroll as mafia in 3 games in a row?
DakeDekaane
You're the one deflecting the attention from the wagon to outside of it when people brought that point, town wouldn't be afraid of it. Also, you still haven't answered to me though, why?
Tanzklaue

DakeDekaane wrote:

You're the one deflecting the attention from the wagon to outside of it when people brought that point, town wouldn't be afraid of it. Also, you still haven't answered to me though, why?
looking at the wagon is as useful as looking outside the wagon.

there are quite frankly no outside motivations for either town or scum to vote yuno, except major annoyance. analyzing the wagon brings us as much as analyzing the peeps outside of it.

also, what are your reasons to vote yuno? why vote when 7 people voted and the day ended?
Raging Bull

Tanzklaue wrote:

is it possible to have so much "luck" to enroll as mafia in 3 games in a row?

Im sorry but hahaha.


Also where are you blue yoshi?
Rantai
That ninja edit.

:P
Raging Bull
edit?
Rantai
I distinctly don't remember that second line.

(not that the edit would have been major, I'm just messing with you)
pieguyn

Tanzklaue wrote:

is it possible to have so much "luck" to enroll as mafia in 3 games in a row?
gambler's fallacy omgomg clearly you must be mafia 111!!1
(also, one of them was a PyP so we can't count that one :P )
fartownik
Tsukasa for obvious lynch 2013. I hope there's no 2 Jesters in this game (trolololo).
Blue Yoshi_old

Raging Bull wrote:

Also where are you blue yoshi?
Waiting for my night action to resolve.
If it happens the way I hope it to I will be dead.
Royston
well, uh, okay then.
Blue Yoshi_old
If it doesn't happen I'll explain myself fully.
If it does, well there'd be no need for such things, now would there?
Topic Starter
LadySuburu
GM Announcement: We're extending the downtime due to some issues.

Night deadline extended 24 hrs.
rEdo
huh, 48 hours long night in which we can even speak... LS, why you do this to me, the nightfucks ;_;

I'll reread this whole thread once I'm home and post my thoughts this evening, right now I'm not capable of doing that actually I'll do that once the night is over
pieguyn
knowing LS I might as well test this
vote: pieguy1372
mod: votecount plz
Royston
ok

vote: No Lynch
fartownik

pieguy1372 wrote:

mod: votecount plz
yerah, totally great
fartownik
If the night is extended again I will cri.
pieguyn
unvote
Blue Yoshi_old
but if we don't lynch the night won't end
Vote: ??
pieguyn
he didn't give a votecount so I assume it doesn't work
unless he was just inactive
also post your reads plz
Blue Yoshi_old
Don't tell me what to do, you aren't my real mom!
Raging Bull
vote blue yoshi
Topic Starter
LadySuburu
GM Announcement: We found the source of the issue and are ending downtime early.

GM Announcement: It seems there was an exploit that allowed players to glitch another player's character, and cause the system to delete it as if it were a hacked character. This has been fixed, and there's no need to worry.


Tanz - Speedy Reviver - Missing N1

It is now D2, with 13 alive it is 7 to lynch.

Deadline in one week.
Blue Yoshi_old
It's all just a game
Blue Yoshi_old
Hardenbergia has been replaced with Lilac in the first post
Welcome.
Tsukasa
Royston

Since you're a "Motivator"

who'm did you "Motivate"?
Raging Bull
vote blue yoshi
Royston
hi lilac

Tsukasa wrote:

Royston

Since you're a "Motivator"

who'm did you "Motivate"?
I did nothing.

With the hint about how dangerous the night would be, I didn't feel comfortable using my night action.
Blue Yoshi_old
Loving that thread title.
Is there a role that ends the game if killed?
Is there some way to have had the game end N1, with either all mafia or enough town to die?
Is there a role that can win N1?
Or is it just LS screwing with us?

My money's on 4, but it seems too obvious.
Royston
I'm not even going to guess.

Also, Blue Yoshi, not dead huh?
Blue Yoshi_old
I'm not super surprised I'm not dead, since it's mostly revolving around how much LS is trolling me.
It has to be quite a bit though, because of how simple this all seems to me.
fartownik
Wow, so much of a ruckus and a regular NK happened. Thank you LS for screwing with us all the game.

Vote: Tsulasa
fartownik
Also wait, what the fuck. No alignment revealed from Tanz's kill? How the...
pieguyn
hi Lilac ~
no alignment = either mafia Janitor kill or a coroner. If there's a coroner, I bet results are faked somehow, cause seems that exactly fits this game...
Blue Yoshi_old
Pls use logics.
Even for LS a mafia reviver would be 100% ludicrous.
Rantai
Wow for so much suspense that was a pretty anti-climatic result.

Go figure on the Hardenbergia.
NoHitter
I don't think Tsukasa is scum.
fartownik

NoHitter wrote:

I don't think Tsukasa is scum.
1. why

2. I want Lilac to say what's so specific about his role that he was introduced to the game so late.
pieguyn
where is everyone
have to leave now so I can't post for a few hrs ><
DakeDekaane
I bet the mindfuck is preventing people to post, but, do you guys aren't forgetting something? That should help to figure out the alignment of dead people.
pieguyn
I have no idea what to say cause the D1 lynch was more a policy lynch than an information lynch
....which ended up being a jester

vote: BRBP
HoS rEdo, kookookook

none of them have posted yet D2
pieguyn
oh wow what a coincidence one of those matches my read from D1
Blue Yoshi_old
Lilac hasn't posted yet either though.
Royston

DakeDekaane wrote:

I bet the mindfuck is preventing people to post, but, do you guys aren't forgetting something? That should help to figure out the alignment of dead people.
Sorry, what do you mean by this?
Blue Yoshi_old
I might regret doing this, but.
Mod: Can you please prod lilac?
Royston
oh no

Blue Yoshi - (???) - Mysteriously vanished D2

RIP :(
pieguyn
vote: Royston imitating mod
NoHitter
@farto
You should probably know why.
NoHitter
Or rather, you probably can infer why.
Raging Bull
Will have limited access this week. Mod can replace me if needed.


And blue yoshi you didnt die, explain now
Royston

fartownik wrote:

Wow, so much of a ruckus and a regular NK happened.
incidentally, what makes you sure it was a regular nightkill? In a game like this, I mean.
Rantai
Wait, I didn't realise this before but doesn't missing imply that the person will be back?
fartownik

NoHitter wrote:

Or rather, you probably can infer why.
So you mean it would be too obvious? Well, you might be right, but I don't really have anything else on my mind, besides kook whom would be too obvious with your train of thought as well.

Royston wrote:

oh no

Blue Yoshi - (???) - Mysteriously vanished D2

RIP :(

Raging Bull wrote:

And blue yoshi you didnt die, explain now
I don't get this, he really died and got revived or you just call him inactive in a fancy way? :p

Royston wrote:

fartownik wrote:

Wow, so much of a ruckus and a regular NK happened.
incidentally, what makes you sure it was a regular nightkill? In a game like this, I mean.
I assumie that. Also we all expected something huge, like a lot people dying or the game ending and instead we got just 1 kill, like in most regular games.
fartownik
Also Lilac might have a post restriction possibly.

@mod: does Lilac have a post restriction?
NoHitter
kook wouldn't be. I guess you didn't infer it correctly then.

Incidentally, this Information Mafia could be a more messed up version of Mafia in the Dark.
Maybe the "information" change is the one the mod is giving out. In Mafia in the Dark, I gave scum the ability to fake the flips of the deaths.
fartownik

NoHitter wrote:

kook wouldn't be. I guess you didn't infer it correctly then.
Then excuse me, but I don't know why Tsukasa wouldn't be scum in your opinion if it's not about it being too obvious (unless you're Cop? but it would be silly to post reads like this when you're Cop). This game really made me sick in the head and I'm not sure what could be possible and not, you might like to explain it to me.

NoHitter wrote:

Incidentally, this Information Mafia could be a more messed up version of Mafia in the Dark.
Maybe the "information" change is the one the mod is giving out. In Mafia in the Dark, I gave scum the ability to fake the flips of the deaths.
I guess this could be possible seeing how Tanz didn't flip anything, but it doesn't answer why Lilac was introduced to the game so late, why he doesn't post and what were all the hints used by the mod about (you can judge it was just a play from the mod, but can never be sure).
Royston

fartownik wrote:

Raging Bull wrote:

And blue yoshi you didnt die, explain now
I don't get this, he really died and got revived or you just call him inactive in a fancy way? :p
he's probably referring to this

BlueYoshi wrote:

Waiting for my night action to resolve.
If it happens the way I hope it to I will be dead.

BlueYoshi wrote:

If it doesn't happen I'll explain myself fully.
If it does, well there'd be no need for such things, now would there?
fartownik
I guess I must've missed that.
Blue Yoshi_old
There's no way to reveal this without revealing my role. If you guys want me to I will, but you probably won't like it.
And I won't either. ;-;
fartownik
Then why you promise something you can't fulfill? Little liar!
NoHitter
I'm NOT an investigative role.
^ It shoud be obv- ok maybe its not so obvious, but I reall don't think his scum for a reason.

Exposing that reason would defeat its purpose though.
fartownik
If you're talking about Blue Yoshi's - it might be a real lot of roles that can cause him being dead during the night, or a lot of WIFOM he might've thought as true while doing the action.

@Blue Yoshi: are you going to try that again tonight?
Topic Starter
LadySuburu

fartownik wrote:

@mod: does Lilac have a post restriction?
I can't answer that question, obviously.
rEdo

LadySuburu wrote:

fartownik wrote:

@mod: does Lilac have a post restriction?
I can't answer that question, obviously.


no, seriously, I kinda have no idea what to say right now...
prod dodging with this post
Blue Yoshi_old
I bon't see why the prad didn't work, begause if's been at least 24 haurs since the day stafted.
@mod: was Lilac prodded? Also, may BRBP and kookookook be prodded?
fartownik
There has been no notification that Lilac has been prodded whatsoever, even after asking the mod to prod him. Also there's absolutely no mention of prods in the rules of this game, and no one has ever encountered a prod before here. We simply can't know whether he's inactive or have a post restriction until he speaks himself.
Royston
screw it, I'll be the guinea pig.

vote: Lilac
mod: votecount please (or at least tell me if my vote went through or not)
fartownik
An important question to everyone here: has anyone targeted Hardenbergia aka Lilac during the night?
fartownik
^ no need to reveal the specific action nor the role, simply say if you targeted him, it should be helpful.
Topic Starter
LadySuburu

Royston wrote:

screw it, I'll be the guinea pig.

vote: Lilac
mod: votecount please (or at least tell me if my vote went through or not)
You have a vote on Lilac now.
Topic Starter
LadySuburu

Blue Yoshi wrote:

I bon't see why the prad didn't work, begause if's been at least 24 haurs since the day stafted.
@mod: was Lilac prodded? Also, may BRBP and kookookook be prodded?
Assorted people have been prodded.
pieguyn
I didn't
man why are there no new pages? in Touhou PyP there were like 7 new pages every day and they were all when I was asleep > <
fartownik
Maybe because almost no one is doing anything? I've already voted + posted my motivations, it's time for other people to start working too.

I hope the mod prodded the inactive ones, especially Tsukasa because this is ridiculous.
pieguyn
okay wtf
what if the mechanic is that players die without any indication whatsoever? that would explain why so many people aren't posting, also fits theme too
I hate to do setup speculation so late but just throwing this out there...
fartownik
That's pretty much impossible. Almost everyone already posted D2 and I doubt there would really be something like unlimited day vigilante killing off people one by one, it's just silly. I don't really know about the people that haven't posted D2 just yet - which are kookookook, Lilac and BRBP, though I think they're simply being inactive as fuck.

Also players that haven't posted for last 24h: Tsukasa, DakeDekaane and Raging Bull. These people should be prodded immediately.

We really should concentrate on scumhunting instead of silly theorizing like this, will lead us nowhere.
Knarf
Hi there. I've nothing to say, just to prove I'm alive.
pieguyn
hi
tell us who you think the mafia are plz :)
fartownik
How are we even supposed to judge anything when you just jump out of nowhere saying you have nothing to say, about anything. What can we judge of that? Even if you are Town and don't feel like playing the game anymore, you just ruin it for us because of not playing it (equals with anti-town behavior).

We can't lynch you based just on inactivity, or at least that would be reckless considering you're newbie, and we can't simply let you stay there because you don't contribute at all and we can't know whether you are town or not...

If you are not into the game - ASK FOR A REPLACEMENT.
Rantai
Well might as well get something going.

DakeDekaane wrote:

Basically we can get 1 or 2 scum there, there may also a third, but it's less likely. I didn't tell this before because it could've been ruined by people taking the votes off.
So, might I ask what conclusions you came up with after yesterdays ordeals?

I still don't like how you tried to mitigate any responsibility of your vote/hammer by making this statement.
Raging Bull
I said i have limited access for a while, but im still on blue yoshi, he still has not answered my question. Hes been scum to me ever and has done nothing townlike to me
Royston
Well I'm going to keep my vote on until Lilac posts something
pieguyn
blue yoshi and kookookook post who you think is mafia plz

and that goes for everyone else who hasn't posted anything too
Lilac
I'm sorry. I have a mid-semester test at Uni coming up this Friday and my mind is just a bit not focused on this.

You guys are absolute basket cases though. By you guys I mean farto.
pieguyn
yaaaay Lilac arrives ~

welcome again \:D/

also Lilac is town
Lilac
The Hardenbergia violacea is known as a flowering plant that is native to Australia, growing from Queensland all the way down the coast to Tasmania. Also known as the Lilac Vine. A misleading name as it actually is not a true lilac, the fragrance is weak and it actually thrives in Winter, the flowers bloom in Winter as well making it immune to any type of frost damage. When there is no flower, the leaves on the vine itself are attractive enough not to mention the low maintenance this has making it an ideal plant for anyone.

tl;dr Mew.
fartownik
Thx we know that already. Why don't you start answering all the stuff we given here instead of stating the obvious?

Also

pieguy1372 wrote:

also Lilac is town
Hey you can totally judge that by one post.
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