Apparently the Chinese are blaming the organizers for tourneys over there, ACE. There was like 5 big chinese tourneys, compared to the 20+ last year and 30+ the year before.

Certain teams aren't allowed to participate in smaller tourneys which created stagnation. The chinese had a mentality that they were "the best" so they didn't give a shit. The chinese teams only scrim with like 4-5 of each other so they know how to play with each other.

The chinese also have no high risk, high reward type players except for DK who did have some inventive strategies throughout the tourney, rotk is the x-factor there though. This is pretty much why the china vs. china was always slow, "boring" games.

They need to pick up the pace and participate in more tournaments if they wanna do good next year, because the Westies play a hell of a lot more in a competitive enviroment and learn just as fast.

apparently XBOCT can farm 900 gpm+ like burning does in TI3

also how much does this Cauldron thing worth ?

i hope im not a retard for putting this in d2l

dNextGen wrote:

apparently XBOCT can farm 900 gpm+ like burning does in TI3

also how much does this Cauldron thing worth ?

i hope im not a retard for putting this in d2l

Trading the immortal compendium gift I think it's not a good thing
btw OMG I WANT PUCK'S WINGS ASIHDPASUPIDBNSA

dNextGen wrote:

apparently XBOCT can farm 900 gpm+ like burning does in TI3

also how much does this Cauldron thing worth ?

i hope im not a retard for putting this in d2l

Overall, hi.

This offer is really retarded, an Immortal Cauldron is 2 keys worth while that Shitty Sword is only 1k worth.

And yeah... Virtus.throw now is lacking of Mid, Offlaner and Carry... yep.

Fuck yes, good bye.

Pizzicato wrote:

so i got this item last match

Post it on your personal blog!

The teams' reshuffle is slowly starting to begin

VP kicked 3, and RTZ leaves Kaipi inb4 Singsing

I hope Light plays with AA again though

light wont be going anywhere for a while though. empire pays a lot to get LoH as their roster

i wanna see Empire back on track again tbh

they pulled some crazy shit when Silent and Funn1k was on the team

Someone has fashion of yoskreth here?

I have zero knowledge about trading and I got kunkha's whale blade and I don't know how much it would cost in terms of money. May I ask how much? in USD :3

it cost around 6 key iirc

*cough* OT from the standard talk we got here atm, anyhow..a question on my behalf that, is anyone interested in q'ing up sometimes together? I'm slightly getting tired of greifers and people who do not understand common sense and the English language in the US/EU servers. If anyone interested, hitmeup~

You mean, playing? I agree!

@Pizzicato: When you don't know a value of an item, just check here! http://dota2prices.com/equipment/
The Whale Blade costs 5-6 keys

Btw, I would buy the Alpha Predator set for Nyx... 6€ is a good price for you? ToT

ShinseinaTenshi wrote:

*cough* OT from the standard talk we got here atm, anyhow..a question on my behalf that, is anyone interested in q'ing up sometimes together? I'm slightly getting tired of greifers and people who do not understand common sense and the English language in the US/EU servers. If anyone interested, hitmeup~

Sounds fun.
Maybe we should just make a osu! chat channel in the game which we all join?

>why the fuck does immortal item cost similar to the compendium

holy shit 6 keys
2 uncommon/rare sets \:D/

[AirCoN] wrote:

>why the fuck does immortal item cost similar to the compendium

because people are greedy

Holy shit Sylar...

Sylar says he knows LGD was gonna kick him anyway, that's why he prematurely left the team.
Problem lied within xiao8 in my eyes though. For a few months already, his performance is really nowhere near the lower average

Magicphoenix wrote:

Problem lied within xiao8 in my eyes though

in everyone's eyes*

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmes ... _id=425909

hahaha jesus i love this guy

There's now an ingame chatroom called 'osu!'

xsrsbsns wrote:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=425909

hahaha jesus i love this guy

dear god,Navi fanboi everywhere,it's a cool interview but the comment section are filled with Navi fanboi going fullforce just because LoH mentioned the fountain hook thing

Most people will love Na'Vi until another entertaining-to-watch teams rises up, Alliance is good but they pick always the same thing and never do anything that crazy... at least that's how I feel it.

Just read the LoH interview and OH MY GOD he really is butt-hurt, or is he just being sarcastic? Maybe I misunderstood something but I get the feeling he is kind of regretting leaving the team.

I really like the fact that he calls pretty all teams "trash", which is so true when you think about it. Alliance played with the same heroes for ages, no one really adapted or figured out that banning them = you can beat them (well Puppey did...), Chinese teams are pathetic, etc.

I didn't really watch TI2 so someone give me some insight, how come Asian teams conquered that tournament playing like that?

Dear Loh

it's not just in SC2, its happening in here as well...

Wishy wrote:

Just read the LoH interview and OH MY GOD he really is butt-hurt, or is he just being sarcastic? Maybe I misunderstood something but I get the feeling he is kind of regretting leaving the team.

I really like the fact that he calls pretty all teams "trash", which is so true when you think about it. Alliance played with the same heroes for ages, no one really adapted or figured out that banning them = you can beat them (well Puppey did...), Chinese teams are pathetic, etc.

I didn't really watch TI2 so someone give me some insight, how come Asian teams conquered that tournament playing like that?

chinese teams in TI2 used to be more flawless when its comes to ganking and clash, that's why they conquered the international 2012

Wishy wrote:

Just read the LoH interview and OH MY GOD he really is butt-hurt, or is he just being sarcastic? Maybe I misunderstood something but I get the feeling he is kind of regretting leaving the team.

I really like the fact that he calls pretty all teams "trash", which is so true when you think about it. Alliance played with the same heroes for ages, no one really adapted or figured out that banning them = you can beat them (well Puppey did...), Chinese teams are pathetic, etc.

I didn't really watch TI2 so someone give me some insight, how come Asian teams conquered that tournament playing like that?

he is being sarcastic,read the disclaimer

Wishy wrote:

Alliance is good but they pick always the same thing and never do anything that crazy... at least that's how I feel it.

That's not true. Alliance can pick heroes that other teams are afraid of doing that. Like Night Stalker pick for example at TI3, Phantom Assassin + Wisp combo was another good pick they did in their last tournament.

Alliance, Zenith and Orange are teams that you can expect some crazy picks.

P.S. Top interview from LightOfHeaven, great guy. Good to know that he mentioned Vici, the team has great potential.
Top comment.

M: You once said that when you lose you feel happy for your opponent.
LoH: I feel happy about the fact that I see people who are doing something better than me and I have someone to learn from.

Edit: A big lol at some comments at Liquid.

i want to see yaphets/PIS in dota 2 competitive scene so badly

Me not. He's mentally a little pampered kid. Left his team that he created after ragequit in a scrim lol

rzkadi wrote:

chinese teams in TI2 used to be more flawless when its comes to ganking and clash, that's why they conquered the international 2012

The last games I watched from the Chinese being "the best" was IG vs LGD.int, and tbh even when I got impressed a lot by them back then, now that I saw them play against western teams it was like "oh right, they just know how to play each other since they are both teams that just farm for 100 minutes".

Gonna try to watch some TI2 games anyways, see if I can notice what you said.

Tetsu wrote:

That's not true. Alliance can pick heroes that other teams are afraid of doing that. Like Night Stalker pick for example at TI3, Phantom Assassin + Wisp combo was another good pick they did in their last tournament.

Alliance, Zenith and Orange are teams that you can expect some crazy picks.

Edit: A big lol at some comments at Liquid.

Night Stalker pick was bad, they did not even win by their own plays, Dendi explained on an interview how they had that game in their pocket and they basically gave it away by fighting as 5 on bot T2 during the first night. There are a lot of "good heroes" that are not picked at all, and there is a reason for that, people knows how to defeat them, either that or they are not good enough.

I remember watching Wisp + Mortred on some games, but iirc they were mostly on random tournaments against lower tier teams, so I wouldn't really give them any praise for it, any top team could pick some shit against worse teams and still come ahead. All I say is Alliance isn't that fun to watch because their basic line up is always the exact same thing. Even LoH points out how dumb every team was being that they didn't even try to adapt, you had a top team picking from a pool of 5~9 heroes, which of course are all top tier, why don't you ban those and try to pick based on their picks instead of getting your usual line up + banning random shit they are not gonna use anyways?

Again, just to clarify, not saying Alliance is bad, they are indeed one of the best 3 teams in the world right now (I still feel like watching Orange vs Alliance) but I still find them boring to watch, all they did was find an epic line up that no one adapted to, except for one team that gave away 2 games by themselves.

My mistake, I shouldn't have say "was another good pick". You said "they pick always the same thing" that's why I mentioned NS and not if he was good or bad pick.
They have picked Phantom Assassin not on a random tournament (G-1 league) and not against low tier team (Orange) too and she was the best hero in the game. They didn't even picked Wisp to buff Phantom Assassin on that game.

Still I believe that Alliance doesn't pick the same thing (except the heroes for Bulldog) if you compare their picks to other teams and definitely not as boring as the half of the teams that were at TI3.
And before anyone call me an Alliance boy, I would rather watch teams 4 Friends + Chrille or First Departure than Alliance lawl.

i'd rather watch Kaipi

the only team that pick space cow on tourneys

Kappaipi is becoming every week more lileable to me with those members changes lol. SingSing should kick EE now and win TI4.

no shit,he'll definitely win TI4 and do this to the traitor Lod[A]

sylar in
RotK out
BurNing becomes the ganker

what

CHUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN

Pizzicato wrote:

sylar in
RotK out
BurNing becomes the ganker

what

Maybe they have inside info, but I read the original thread and it doesn't say anything like that at all

(Sylar intends to leave LGD, while rOtk is "going home", implying his leave from DK)

dNextGen wrote:

no shit,he'll definitely win TI4 and do this to the traitor Lod[A]

lol found this pic on iceiceice's stream today.

Too bad it's rotk who is leaving. Always liked this player. Hope he can join a good team.
BurNIng changing position again? I hope it will work well like it did the last time he did that.
DK can become a very powerful with 2 of the best carries in the world in their roster, Sylar and BurNIng can even change position depending on their picks. If they can find the right chemistry they can become the great DK team they were in Dota 1.

rotK out of DK really is a tragedy for every DK fan
And BurNIng to offlane position
I trust his skills and I know he'll be a friggin' good Offlaner...but jesus christ...a BurNIng that's not a 1-position anymore .. :/
Same thing when X!! became a support role.
Many DK-fanboy tears were shed

more Kaipi talk pls

they have SingSing-senpai on the team now

2GD must be mad now hahahha

I don't know what's the big deal about SingSing joining Kaipi. It was already announced about 1 and 1/2 months ago

Only question is who their 5th will be

Amazing set.

so i heard zenith disbanded.

Did'cha buy that one Roxas? cool stuff
Also yup @Pizzicato, and the strongest core of Zenith still remains

Magicphoenix wrote:

Did'cha buy that one Roxas? cool stuff

Yea, I thought about it before buying, but well, this costs 6€ and the old one (that I have obtained via trades) costs 8.50, so

I want my Glados announcer.

Wisp announcer

That nyx set is scrub-tier btw.

I buy too many sets =(.

Wtb patch with GLaDOS announcer and new sets.

Scrub-tier? :v

I'd want a Gordon Freeman announcer, imagine how silent the game will be then, then i can listen to my music in peace

Pizzicato wrote:

so i heard zenith disbanded.

Yes. It's a 1-man army now.

iceiceice doto, best doto.

I'm just glad that BurNing isn't retiring. Well, he is staying, right?

Cave Johnson announcer pack. Make it happen.

GMPGL singapore is going on right now, and i heard rumors that me like cats is iceiceice

He was playing with that team for about 2 days. He even streamed some games with that team.
I don't think he will join them though.

soon™

useless hero ever,im glad valve didnt release them yet till now

and i hope they never will

I think Techies is by far one of the most entertaining heroes to play.

DotA 2 will be decent when they add a powerful editor like W3. :s

Kreygasm

Abaddon will be a badass

and so does Jahrakal D:

imagine Alchemist with Mjollnir + Assault Cuirass + Battle Trance D:

speaking about alchemist

The Caustic Steel Set may be a reference to the Japanese TV Show, Full Metal Alchemist since the knot ressembles Edward's hair style and the ogre's armor looks like Edward's Brother armor, Alphonse

im so going to buy that set even though i dont play carry that much (Weaver is an exception since he is deadly without that much money)

BurNing is the only player left in DK

DK.Mushi incoming

http://www.gosugamers.net/dota2/news/25 ... t-the-boot

mushi leaving orange? dream on

iceiceice did say that Mushi's going to build his own team at least. Or changing team

Mushi is leaving Orange and heading to China DK. Mushi


EDIT: http://www.lowyat.net/2013/08/27/11896/ ... -to-china/

mushi to DK calling it

Mushi is too fucking pro just like Yamateh said.
GL in China.

Statement by Mushi

"Yes, it's true. I am going to China soon. This decision didn't come very easy, but sometimes, you need to make hard decisions to get to where you want to be. Just know that I am parting with Orange amicably and my reasons for leaving are purely personal.
A lot of people are asking about which Chinese team I am joining, but really, that's not important. No matter where I go, I will still be carrying the Malaysian flag. And no matter what team I join, I will still be the Mushi that you all know. My target is still the same: bring a good game to all the fans around the world.
I believe Orange without me is still Orange, for as long as the other 4 players still believe in each other as we did back in TI3. So, regardless of who replaces me, they will still achieve a lot in the future.
I would like to thank Orange, Neolution, and all our sponsors for always supporting us in all our endeavors.
To my Orange teammates, I believe you all can go far even without me.
To my true fans, I hope that you all will continue to support me, even though I am no longer a part of Orange.
Finally, to all the aspiring gamers out there, believe that nothing is impossible. Don't give up until you get what you want and you are where you want to be." -Mushi

QQ

Support Bara with 30 assissts, working quite nice. It is also pretty useful to have a global Linken's popper with Charge.

Also for people who love stats like me: http://artembeer.com/dotastats.php .

It's saddening to see him leaving Orange, but it's always for the better. Mushi is extremely talented and I believe moving to China was the right choice.

I hope he joins IG DK tho.

Mushi + BurNinG = ohgod

dNextGen wrote:

http://imgur.com/a/lcgel

bmin11 y u do dis to us

Also,
Mushi mid
Sylar carry
BurNIng offlane?
Is this real life? Could this really happen? DD

I'll just turn myself in

I hope DK isn't just throwing money at everyone and just putting superstars on a team. IMO that never works. Players will end up just playing for salary and less about passion.

Also I think i read somewhere about burning wanting to play a ganking type role, he wants to have more control over the game.

Creating a team of star players isn't the best way. Anyone who watched the first matches when DK was created knows that.

I'm gonna watch this movie now.

Tetsu wrote:

Creating a team of star players isn't the best way. Anyone who watched the first matches when DK was created knows that.

I'm gonna watch this movie now.

hahahah dear god,this pic cheers me up in an instant after having a 15 hour of bad-day

just found out that twtich added that Keepo face rofl

= Cancer Face (no space)

yeahyeahyeahhh wrote:

I hope DK isn't just throwing money at everyone and just putting superstars on a team. IMO that never works. Players will end up just playing for salary and less about passion.

Also I think i read somewhere about burning wanting to play a ganking type role, he wants to have more control over the game.

Yeah, that's why he's been starting to play the 3 role

no good doto lately

what happens to the tournaments and stuff

only VG and some SEA doto tourneys worth watching for me

After TI many players just want to take a break, this is completely normal.

pgg is riddle, riddle is icefrog

http://www.gosugamers.net/dota2/news/25 ... eam-empire

best Ruski dude movin to team Empire

Funn1k confirmed going to Empire

he's going back? lol maybe he cant stand XBOCT anymore

and the roster-changing epidemic continues

not yet,but i want to see the old Empire so badly

NO! Why Smile left VP? I would love to see him play with LoH again.

So many transfers @_@

Tetsu wrote:

NO! Why Smile left VP? I would love to see him play with LoH again.

he doesnt want to play with Lost

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haha i got 2/14 Naix on my team and still managed to win the game,splitpush doto ftw

speaking of naix..had a match earlier myself with him



the storm spirit made me want to cry for his actions

joining the na`ix showcase bandwagon
we couldn't push because of the wisp-np backdoor threat so it became a slugfest
screw bloodseeker for stealing all my kills


also, wow. just, wow.
http://www.dotatalk.com/all-new-virtus-pro/

wow i should add that guy playin bloodseker,it's rare to see someone build e-blade + dagon in SEA

sea doto tryhard doto

dNextGen wrote:

sea doto tryhard doto

i raised him actually. it was low prio. and we're just screwing around the whole game

Someone should make a tryhard 5 man dagon team~

Pugna dagon; Zeus dagon ; Bloodseeker dagon ; naix dagon , prophet dagon. Zap em' up. I wonder how would that work, i'm going to try that next time with a team if i can find one. Also with orchid and Veil, for the greater good!

you haven't seen zeus wars yet
one of the most fantastic things i've ever experienced yet

I can imagine it had quite a fair amount of lightning bolts going everywhere, also KOTL wars would be amazing as well, hahah

Dreamteamiest Ukraine-Russia dreamteam possible for Virtus Pro, wow

Also, my prediction for DK :
BurNing
Sylar
Cty
+ 2

ed: actually, if Cty is willing to give up his solo position and transition to jungle or hard support (which i kinda doubt though), Mushi could join and take the mid role