Okah then, let's just RV and leave the thread until the night.
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uh ohTsukasa wrote:
Btw.
Setup speculation = Role Fishing
Role Fishing = Scum
Ergo
Setup speculation = Scum
Or we could lynch you for self-voting
DOUBLE OMGUSfartownik wrote:
Or we could lynch you for self-voting
I'm sorry, but do you even know the definition of "OMGUS'?Tsukasa wrote:
DOUBLE OMGUSfartownik wrote:
Or we could lynch you for self-voting
Oh, okay then.
Tsukasa - OMGUS.
Tsukasa - OMGUS.
Why? :cTsukasa wrote:
Or we could lynch Royston
The definition of a sheep.Raging Bull wrote:
We all know RV does nothing, I just do it cause everyone does it.
Tsk tsk.
Tsukasa is giving me varied vibes. Self-vote reads town while Setup speculation = Scum reads scum.
It fits under the criteria of having a role that knows all the other roles but I don't see why that is a popular opinion.
It's most likely someone who frequents the mafia forum and would make sense for to be in this game, but isn't. Sadly I'm not someone who could figure that out.
But now I'm just sidetracking from our main objective. Royston don't do these things to me.
It's most likely someone who frequents the mafia forum and would make sense for to be in this game, but isn't. Sadly I'm not someone who could figure that out.
But now I'm just sidetracking from our main objective. Royston don't do these things to me.
There is no way set-up speculation will get us anywhere today. Anyone who continues along that path gets scumpoints.
Actually, now that I'm thinking about it, Tsukasa's posts are pinging me pretty hard.
FOS Tsukasa
FOS Tsukasa
also I don't have a win condition in my PM. Is that something meaningful or was that just done for brevity (along with the lack of mentioning alignment). Yeah I've seen the post about "if there isn't an alignment listed, you're town" but it still kinda unnerves me. 
one more thing
vote: kookookook only posted once since game start
vote: kookookook only posted once since game start
^This guy wants to be death.
Vote:Royston
The setup us made to not rely on PRs. Role fishing is useless even for scum if the stuff we speculated is correct, but that post and then trying to deflect the attention is just...
Vote:Royston
The setup us made to not rely on PRs. Role fishing is useless even for scum if the stuff we speculated is correct, but that post and then trying to deflect the attention is just...
EBWOP: The setup is made
Damn phone.
Damn phone.
Vote: fartownik
i only posted one though
i only posted one though
um you were already voting for fart. and you've posted thrice already if you're referring to post count?YunoFanatic wrote:
Vote: fartownik
i only posted one though
I AM DEATH INCARNATEDakeDekaane wrote:
^This guy wants to be death.
Vote:Royston
The setup is made to not rely on PRs. Role fishing is useless even for scum if the stuff we speculated is correct, but that post and then trying to deflect the attention is just...
also, what makes you say that the setup is made to not rely on PRs? What gives you that impression?
Damn it Royston...
@Royston: I said that because if there's manipulative/misleading roles, PRs are as useful as a squarish wheel, so we have to rely on merely scumhunting.
Im sorry xD it seems fart is my favorite so favorite that i forgot that i voted him orz
Topic Starter
No.BRBP wrote:
Mod: Vote count please
Okay fine, but just this once.
Text Box wrote:
Royston (3) - Tsukasa, CalingoBot, DakeDake
Tsukasa (2) - farto, rEdo
BRBP (1) - Tanz
Yoshi (1) - Pieguy
pieguy (1) - RB
farto (1) - Yuno
Yuno (1) - kookoo
KooKoo (1) - Royston
??? (1) - BRBP
Be careful during the night. That's a dangerous time.
Not Voting: Everyone Else
Apparently ??? is votable.
Im gonna get killed...
BRBP wrote:
Yuno, have you read the rules and FAQ of mafia? Do you know how this game works, etc? x_x
you dont have sense of joke xD
yep i know about this readed like 10 times since this started \:D/
anyways what's with the issue with my signature i always fc a map when i saw this...
remember that this always could be just a bait from Tsukasa's side, so people will think of him as Town. or just a child's play, but I'd gamble on the first option. and that's right, just like you mentioned before, his posts are giving me quite a bit of bad feeling there. and still, boring game is boring, let it progress.CalignoBot wrote:
Self-vote reads town
staying with my vote there.
Tsukasa's case besides, I'm really curious to see what's LS going to bring us out of that mystery ;)
You know, I'm still of the firm belief that randomly throwing out town/scum reads without any back up serves no purpose other than to take up space (like rvs really).
So I didn't post much. Yeah my 2nd post
btw ??? is really votable? Then...
Vote: ???
btw ??? is really votable? Then...
Vote: ???
Might as well not have D1.
I don't really see a point in voting for "???" right now, we know nothing about it. It really might flip anything, even Jester and then we would probably lose the game because we lynched it ;o It really makes no sense to discuss it right now, everyone that votes him (especially for no reason, just like kook did) pings for scum.
Unvote
Vote: kookookook
Unvote
Vote: kookookook
At least ??? should not be town. The chance for a scum is higher than others.
how would you know? this could be really anyone, either an another scum or some kind of savior for town.kookookook wrote:
At least ??? should not be town. The chance for a scum is higher than others.
...unless you know something, because your role says so, and you can't reveal it to the town, huh.
FoS: kookookook
I mean the uninformed majority.
If ??? is, I complain nothing...
If ??? is, I complain nothing...
Wait why is ??? not town?
Although truthfully I am curious about ???
sorry for that edit, didn't want to make a EBWOP, and he responded quite fast :(
the thing is, we all are unaware what this ??? is, and this even could be some kind of a king we have to protect, it's up to host's creativity. anyway, the most safe thing to do is to leave it alone until it's revealed, and IMO to vote that thing could ping for scum, since they would know something that townies don't.
the thing is, we all are unaware what this ??? is, and this even could be some kind of a king we have to protect, it's up to host's creativity. anyway, the most safe thing to do is to leave it alone until it's revealed, and IMO to vote that thing could ping for scum, since they would know something that townies don't.
kook's argument made no sense, simple as that. He voted someone that he thought would be the least harmful for him, someone that can't counter his attack. He probably thinks that he's supposed to do something, but doesn't really know what and this is what comes out of it.
Also rEdo please stop sheeping to me :f
Also rEdo please stop sheeping to me :f
The Poland team leads with 1. Scum 0.
Honestly, I agree with kook
I assume that their are more Town-aligned players than non-Town players in the general pool - that's a fairly safe assumption in my opinion. However, the chance of ??? being town-aligned? It's possible but it could just as easily be scum-aligned or a neutral party. Therefore, if I were to vote ??? I'd say the odds of that helping town would be greater than lynching someone at random. You could say it's a null point because I'm obviously not going to vote at random, but I feel it's a valid point.
Anyway, unvote because I just wanted to see more posts by that person
I assume that their are more Town-aligned players than non-Town players in the general pool - that's a fairly safe assumption in my opinion. However, the chance of ??? being town-aligned? It's possible but it could just as easily be scum-aligned or a neutral party. Therefore, if I were to vote ??? I'd say the odds of that helping town would be greater than lynching someone at random. You could say it's a null point because I'm obviously not going to vote at random, but I feel it's a valid point.
Anyway, unvote because I just wanted to see more posts by that person
Voting "The 15th Person" (Official Codename) is even more random than voting someone at random.
but sheeping is fun! guide me thru the whole game pls, good sir 8D boland stronk
on a serious note though, isn't that just common sense? I don't really understand why that three question marks guy (let's stick to male definite) would have a higher chance to be scum than the rest of us. it's pretty much what Royston said - the odds for him to be either scum, town, or even neutral, are the same.
but I disagree with one thing - it could also be someone that's gonna bring Town some kind of PR that could even be gamebreaking, so I wouldn't say killing him would be better for Town. unless Mafia has knowledge who that person is and for some reason wants to get rid of that person as soon as possible (and that's what I believe, that's why I don't necessarily trust people who wanna lynch him), it's a complete gambit that would mean completely the same as RVing somebody out of the game. let's be patient, guys.
on a serious note though, isn't that just common sense? I don't really understand why that three question marks guy (let's stick to male definite) would have a higher chance to be scum than the rest of us. it's pretty much what Royston said - the odds for him to be either scum, town, or even neutral, are the same.
but I disagree with one thing - it could also be someone that's gonna bring Town some kind of PR that could even be gamebreaking, so I wouldn't say killing him would be better for Town. unless Mafia has knowledge who that person is and for some reason wants to get rid of that person as soon as possible (and that's what I believe, that's why I don't necessarily trust people who wanna lynch him), it's a complete gambit that would mean completely the same as RVing somebody out of the game. let's be patient, guys.
I'd prefer to vote a known and scummy person than a just unknown one.
There is method to the madness.Rantai wrote:
You know, I'm still of the firm belief that randomly throwing out town/scum reads without any back up serves no purpose other than to take up space (like rvs really).
Interesting way of putting this.rEdo wrote:
remember that this always could be just a bait from Tsukasa's side, so people will think of him as Town. or just a child's play, but I'd gamble on the first option.CalignoBot wrote:
Self-vote reads town
I'm aware that it's also a scum play; I've actually done it as both alignments before. The issue with this is that there are significantly different reasons why town and scum would self-vote at the start of games, and I'm seeing the town mindset being more clear this time.
I don't understand why self-voting, especially in the beginning, is a towntell. In my eyes, it's just a timewaster, as well as an RVS vote that literally goes against the meaning of RVS.
And when it's done so early, there's really no danger in anything snowballing onto you. How exactly is self voting pro-town? The way I see it, it's almost leaning-scum.
And when it's done so early, there's really no danger in anything snowballing onto you. How exactly is self voting pro-town? The way I see it, it's almost leaning-scum.
Topic Starter
That's fine.BRBP wrote:
Mod: I'll be away tomorrow, so that'd be 30-48hours. I guess it's acceptable since the days are one week?
Sorry ;w;
It's not a towntell or a scumtell. It's actually a pretty weak tell in of itself, but I myself have done it as both town and scum (and have seen both town and scum do it), and it really isn't as bad as you make it out to be.Blue Yoshi wrote:
I don't understand why self-voting, especially in the beginning, is a towntell. In my eyes, it's just a timewaster, as well as an RVS vote that literally goes against the meaning of RVS.
And when it's done so early, there's really no danger in anything snowballing onto you. How exactly is self voting pro-town? The way I see it, it's almost leaning-scum.
Actually, answers like these are why it can be used to protown motivations.
Our first course of action is to find this egg.
Kook being scum feels way too easy. Just wanted to get that out there.
Also, clearly the egg is a yoshi egg that can be thrown at someone to kill them. That is why Yoshi wants to find it so badly.
Also, clearly the egg is a yoshi egg that can be thrown at someone to kill them. That is why Yoshi wants to find it so badly.
Oh no, I have been found out!
*hides*
*hides*
A wild prodder appears!Tsukasa wrote:
Prod Dodge
Elaborate if you please.Rantai wrote:
Kook being scum feels way too easy. Just wanted to get that out there.
Sorry this was directed at Blue Yoshifartownik wrote:
Hm, who was this directed at? :fRaging Bull wrote:
Okay so it was for a reaction test and to see if any votes came up. Both failed. What now? Just plant your vote there?
Blue Yoshi wrote:
UnvoteBRBP wrote:
anything
This is a logical move, I assure you.
Explain how the hell it is logical? You vote for some reaction testing. No votes came up. Then apparently you will keep your vote unless BRBP says anything. He just trolled you and said anything and so that was enough for unvoting.
I miss mason chat, so lonely
ooh wait maybe the 15th person is Vertify. That'd be kinda cool
also I'd like Tsukasa and Caligno's reasons for keeping their votes parked on me, they never really gave an explanation when voting me as it seemed to happen during a sort-of-but-not-really-random-voting-stage
ooh wait maybe the 15th person is Vertify. That'd be kinda cool
also I'd like Tsukasa and Caligno's reasons for keeping their votes parked on me, they never really gave an explanation when voting me as it seemed to happen during a sort-of-but-not-really-random-voting-stage
Royston wrote:
uh ohTsukasa wrote:
Btw.
Setup speculation = Role Fishing
Role Fishing = Scum
Ergo
Setup speculation = Scum
Royston wrote:
also I don't have a win condition in my PM. Is that something meaningful or was that just done for brevity (along with the lack of mentioning alignment). Yeah I've seen the post about "if there isn't an alignment listed, you're town" but it still kinda unnerves me.
Royston wrote:
one more thing
vote: kookookook only posted once since game start
All these posts are pinging me. The first by itself warranted a vote.Royston wrote:
can I be town too guys
well that was more "quote a bunch of my posts and say they look suspicious", but okay
Let's see.fartownik wrote:
Elaborate if you please.
A nonsensical reason for voting someone who doesn't "exist" yet. Maybe I have too much faith in people but even if you're a newbie, I don't think any mafia is dumb enough to draw unwanted attention to themselves like that. This is especially compounded if the mafia has daychat, making it even less likely.
Those that jump onto those statements are usually looking for an easy lynch that no one would question, thus an easy scapegoat.
Well, that's fine.
I still wonder if ??? is beneficial to town though there's not much information.
I still wonder if ??? is beneficial to town though there's not much information.
None of his posts make sense so far, even the one above. I think I have to agree with you, I can't really say anything until he starts posting more, because judging that by only 5 posts is just not enough. Might be scum afraid of posting or town afraid of doing something stupid and getting lynched... he's doing both.Rantai wrote:
Let's see.fartownik wrote:
Elaborate if you please.
A nonsensical reason for voting someone who doesn't "exist" yet. Maybe I have too much faith in people but even if you're a newbie, I don't think any mafia is dumb enough to draw unwanted attention to themselves like that. This is especially compounded if the mafia has daychat, making it even less likely.
Those that jump onto those statements are usually looking for an easy lynch that no one would question, thus an easy scapegoat.
My vote on him was a reaction test anyways, and he didn't even respond to it. Inactivity card goes here.
@kookookook, if you don't post because you're afraid you being lynched - start posting. It works right in the opposite direction, the less you post the less information we can gather about you and the more unsure we are.
He took it lightly, he didn't attack me or anything for the vote. It seemed towny.Raging Bull wrote:
Explain how the hell it is logical? You vote for some reaction testing. No votes came up. Then apparently you will keep your vote unless BRBP says anything. He just trolled you and said anything and so that was enough for unvoting.
If this was the wrong move specifically because of BRBP, I apologize. I don't exactly know anyone's behavior/meta here, so I go off what is normal.
So what? If he really didn't say anything, you would have kept your vote on him? Even though you said he didn't attack back?
^ not to mention that pieguy and pink marshmallow weren't that active this game as well
I seriously feel like we're playing against the mod, lol.
Okay Sherlocks, go find the clues.
Okay, took me 2 minutes to find it.
BREAKING NEWS - THE NIGHT IS DANGEROUS.
On a serious note, I doubt this matters anyhow. LS most likely expect us to analyze and take it into consideration as an important part of the setup, though that's a really weak one, you could've done better
On a serious note, I doubt this matters anyhow. LS most likely expect us to analyze and take it into consideration as an important part of the setup, though that's a really weak one, you could've done better
Topic Starter
I might give a better hint once the first night has gone by....fartownik wrote:
BREAKING NEWS - THE NIGHT IS DANGEROUS.
*White evil laughter* No this isn't going to become a trend.
On a serious note, I doubt this matters anyhow. LS most likely expect us to analyze and take into consideration as an important part of the setup, though that's a really weak one, you could've done better
By then, it might already be too late though.
GET OUT OF MY QUOTE, I DIDN'T WRITE THATTTLadySuburu wrote:
I might give a better hint once the first night has gone by....fartownik wrote:
BREAKING NEWS - THE NIGHT IS DANGEROUS.
*White evil laughter* No this isn't going to become a trend.
On a serious note, I doubt this matters anyhow. LS most likely expect us to analyze and take into consideration as an important part of the setup, though that's a really weak one, you could've done better
By then, it might already be too late though.
Also stop making us lynch The 15th Person :/
I'm starting to think "???" is a Serial Killer that knows everyone's alignment.
NOPE, STAHP THROWING THESE THOUGHTS INTO MY MIND, LS
NOPE, STAHP THROWING THESE THOUGHTS INTO MY MIND, LS
Topic Starter
But if I don't make at least one of you think then this thread will never have posts because NOBODY IS POSTING COME ON GUS.fartownik wrote:
I'm starting to think "???" is a Serial Killer that knows everyone's alignment.
NOPE, STAHP THROWING THESE THOUGHTS INTO MY MIND, LS
I want another You are Mafia length thread here.
*serious face*
The amount of letters in the word "Hardenbergia" is exact to "Serialkiller".
Then it seems I was correct about possible roles if the night is going to be this dangerous. Serial Killer is also a possibility but, that could be one of us instead this Hardenbergia guy, I'm thinking this is more as a decoy to deviate our attention. On a side note, Harderbengia is an Australian plant.
Stop being too paranoid farto, you make me think you're the SK :\
Stop being too paranoid farto, you make me think you're the SK :\
I'm not paranoid, I'm just solving a puzzle. What you think about it is your call.
I have no idea if it directs to Royston or maybe to Vertify. Most likely just a play from mod.
I think so, or maybe Rantai, I doubt there's a new guy, but it's also possible.
an anagram? I doubt.
Harden - bergia...
inb4 bastard game
an anagram? I doubt.
Harden - bergia...
inb4 bastard game
I seriously doubt it redirects to any of the current players. It's most likely a hint for a SerialKiller, as I mentioned before, though the mod probably lied as I mentioned I feel like there might be such possibility.
And yes, most likely a bastard game.
And yes, most likely a bastard game.
Topic Starter
I don't think I have it in me to host a game that's not at least somewhat bastard. (Excluding those newbie mafia style games I've done.)fartownik wrote:
And yes, most likely a bastard game.
However, I will not lie this game, as that's not this game's gimmick.
All hints are important.
Hardenbergia isn't even a real user, so either it's a fake name for someone or it means something special
it anagrams to "harbingered a". lol? maybe it's gonna end up screwing us over if we leave it there too long or even do something to it
it anagrams to "harbingered a". lol? maybe it's gonna end up screwing us over if we leave it there too long or even do something to it
btw sorry for inactivity, been getting a map ranked and working on other maps + trying to close out mystery mafia
once that game ends I should be a bit more active for then
once that game ends I should be a bit more active for then
Okay, so if you're not lying and all the hints are important - we should probably lynch The 15 Person, unless you just said that so we do it without hesitation.
I get the distinct feeling that there isn't a 15th person.
just my guts though
just my guts though
The only way to find out is to lynch it. If there's no 15th Person then the lynch won't happen and we lose only one day on finding it out, finally getting some info. But if the 15th Person is actually something dangerous, as the mod hints us, it might be just the right move.
Though it might also be a trap - let's say - everyone who was on the lynch wagon of "???" dies after it's dead. If we want to lynch it, let one person vote him and wait 24 hours without posting so the day ends automatically, or wait for the deadline with only one vote on him. This way the losses would be reduced to minimum.
Though it might also be a trap - let's say - everyone who was on the lynch wagon of "???" dies after it's dead. If we want to lynch it, let one person vote him and wait 24 hours without posting so the day ends automatically, or wait for the deadline with only one vote on him. This way the losses would be reduced to minimum.
if there was supposed to be a 15th person, he/she should've posted in the topic while we were signing in (providing there's no premade setup there, that's a possibility though). in any case I still think we should wait until the situation progresses.
It can seriously be anything. LS might've asked someone privately to join an experimental game; it might be Vertify; it might be the mod himself; it might be a first lynched player that gets revived in another role; it might be another player that is playing 2 roles at once; it can be NOTHING as well.rEdo wrote:
if there was supposed to be a 15th person, he/she should've posted in the topic while we were signing in (providing there's no premade setup there, that's a possibility though). in any case I still think we should wait until the situation progresses.
Also if it's someone then it most likely has some kind of post restriction.